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  • eatyum_PSNE Offline
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    That's not how odds work

    It's 1 in 50, but that doesn't mean one out of every 50 packs you open, it's over the whole community

    I could open 2 packs and get 2 diamonds, you could open 98 packs and get nothing, the odds still come out to 1 in 50

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  • Earths Flat_XBLE Offline
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    @eatyum_psn said in If “pack odds” were truly legit…:

    That's not how odds work

    It's 1 in 50, but that doesn't mean one out of every 50 packs you open, it's over the whole community

    I could open 2 packs and get 2 diamonds, you could open 98 packs and get nothing, the odds still come out to 1 in 50

    That should be explained not implied but you live and learn and Ive learned to never buy packs.

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  • MAM8A 245300_XBLM Offline
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    @earths-flat_xbl said in If “pack odds” were truly legit…:

    @eatyum_psn said in If “pack odds” were truly legit…:

    That's not how odds work

    It's 1 in 50, but that doesn't mean one out of every 50 packs you open, it's over the whole community

    I could open 2 packs and get 2 diamonds, you could open 98 packs and get nothing, the odds still come out to 1 in 50

    That should be explained not implied but you live and learn and Ive learned to never buy packs.

    I mean they shouldn't have to hold your hand and teach you how odds work. They are posted clearly. Your lack of understanding isn't their fault

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  • Earths Flat_XBLE Offline
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    @mam8a-245300_xbl said in If “pack odds” were truly legit…:

    @earths-flat_xbl said in If “pack odds” were truly legit…:

    @eatyum_psn said in If “pack odds” were truly legit…:

    That's not how odds work

    It's 1 in 50, but that doesn't mean one out of every 50 packs you open, it's over the whole community

    I could open 2 packs and get 2 diamonds, you could open 98 packs and get nothing, the odds still come out to 1 in 50

    That should be explained not implied but you live and learn and Ive learned to never buy packs.

    I mean they shouldn't have to hold your hand and teach you how odds work. They are posted clearly. Your lack of understanding isn't their fault

    It says 1:10 which I’m sure I’m not the only one that sees that as 1 out of 10 packs I buy not the whole community. No hand holding needed my friend.

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  • apurp27_PSNA Offline
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    Opening each pack is an “independent event” from a statistical standpoint. So theoretically, the odds of you getting a diamond on a fresh pack should be the same regardless what happened on the pack(s) prior. For example, if you opened a ten pack bundle and pulled Trout first pack, your odds of pulling a diamond (for pack #2) should be the same as if you had pulled a bronze in the first pack. I try not to buy packs at all, since it’s so rare to even break-even on them.

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  • MAM8A 245300_XBLM Offline
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    @earths-flat_xbl said in If “pack odds” were truly legit…:

    It says 1:10 which I’m sure I’m not the only one that sees that as 1 out of 10 packs I buy not the whole community. No hand holding needed my friend.

    It doesn't though. The flash sale live series pack had 1:10 odds of getting a high diamond. Maybe that's what you're confused about. The show packs have 1:50 . Which means for each pack you open you have a 1/51 chance of pulling a diamond and a 50/51 chance of not pulling one. Odds are never given as a guarantee in anything as far as I'm aware of.

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  • Earths Flat_XBLE Offline
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    @mam8a-245300_xbl said in If “pack odds” were truly legit…:

    @earths-flat_xbl said in If “pack odds” were truly legit…:

    It says 1:10 which I’m sure I’m not the only one that sees that as 1 out of 10 packs I buy not the whole community. No hand holding needed my friend.

    It doesn't though. The flash sale live series pack had 1:10 odds of getting a high diamond. Maybe that's what you're confused about. The show packs have 1:50 . Which means for each pack you open you have a 1/51 chance of pulling a diamond and a 50/51 chance of not pulling one. Odds are never given as a guarantee in anything as far as I'm aware of.

    I m more confused that I bought 3 50 pack bundles and came away with 1 diamond, I figured I’d at least get 3 given the odds. When I mentioned the 1:10 I was thinking of the flash sale packs that we could only get 1 of, my bad there.

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  • MathMan5072_PSNM Offline
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    If there is a 1/10 chance of getting a diamond, then there is a 90% chance of failing. To fail 10 times in row would be 0.9^10 = 0.35.

    So, there is a 35% chance of not getting a diamond and a 65% chance of getting 1 or more.

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  • PAinPA_PSNP Offline
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    I had predictive reasoning in math class in 8th grade and again in both 10th and 11th,which discussed both odds and ratios among other things.

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  • Earths Flat_XBLE Offline
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    @painpa_psn said in If “pack odds” were truly legit…:

    I had predictive reasoning in math class in 8th grade and again in both 10th and 11th,which discussed both odds and ratios among other things.

    Right on.

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  • abbyspapa_PSNA Offline
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    Another pack odds thread?

    Each pack opening has no bearing on any other pack opening.

    The probability of pulling a diamond is not affected by your previous pack outcomes.

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  • Earths Flat_XBLE Offline
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    @abbyspapa_psn said in If “pack odds” were truly legit…:

    Another pack odds thread?

    Each pack opening has no bearing on any other pack opening.

    The probability of pulling a diamond is not affected by your previous pack outcomes.

    If this is a redundant thread I apologize. I’ve only been able to post on the forum since yesterday and I don’t search through all the threads ever made- I’m sorry this thread disturbed you enough to look at it and comment.

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  • PastaMcRavioli_PSNP Offline
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    @eatyum_psn said in If “pack odds” were truly legit…:

    That's not how odds work

    It's 1 in 50, but that doesn't mean one out of every 50 packs you open, it's over the whole community

    I could open 2 packs and get 2 diamonds, you could open 98 packs and get nothing, the odds still come out to 1 in 50

    I got one 4 packs in a row once last year or the year before. It was magical. Nothing good, but was still wildly exciting

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  • abbyspapa_PSNA Offline
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    @earths-flat_xbl said in If “pack odds” were truly legit…:

    @abbyspapa_psn said in If “pack odds” were truly legit…:

    Another pack odds thread?

    Each pack opening has no bearing on any other pack opening.

    The probability of pulling a diamond is not affected by your previous pack outcomes.

    If this is a redundant thread I apologize. I’ve only been able to post on the forum since yesterday and I don’t search through all the threads ever made- I’m sorry this thread disturbed you enough to look at it and comment.

    The only thing disturbing to me, is the number of people who don't understand how odds work.

    But it's not like SDS is going to sticky this thread (or any of the numerous other pack odds threads) because it might impact pack and stub sales. 😉

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  • Earths Flat_XBLE Offline
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    @abbyspapa_psn said in If “pack odds” were truly legit…:

    @earths-flat_xbl said in If “pack odds” were truly legit…:

    @abbyspapa_psn said in If “pack odds” were truly legit…:

    Another pack odds thread?

    Each pack opening has no bearing on any other pack opening.

    The probability of pulling a diamond is not affected by your previous pack outcomes.

    If this is a redundant thread I apologize. I’ve only been able to post on the forum since yesterday and I don’t search through all the threads ever made- I’m sorry this thread disturbed you enough to look at it and comment.

    The only thing disturbing to me, is the number of people who don't understand how odds work.

    But it's not like SDS is going to sticky this thread (or any of the numerous other pack odds threads) because it might impact pack and stub sales. 😉

    I understand odds, just not these odds apparently- nhl does a much better job with there odds representation.

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  • Dolenz_PSND Online
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    Odds are not guarantees.

    Flipping a coin is a 1:2 chance of coming up heads but that does not mean that if I flip twice I am guaranteed to get heads. I could get 10 tails in a row.

    Also, there is way to much scrutiny on these types of game and in game purchases for them to bother lying about pack odds. It could get them in serious trouble especially in other countries.

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  • maskedgrappler_PSNM Offline
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    Look at it this way, for every single pack you open you have a 2% chance to pull a diamond.

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    @earths-flat_xbl said in If “pack odds” were truly legit…:

    we would/should get at least one diamond with every 10 pack bundle and 5 with a 50 pack yet I seem to get 1 diamond out of every 10 10pack bundles and maybe 5 diamonds out of every 10 50 pack bundles. The shown/given odds are a lie. I’m new and thought “wow a 50 pack bundle I’m bound to get something”. No more of the pack buying nonsense for me.

    Dude I've open a gazillion bazillion packs and I got an 85 card once ,he was only 5500 stubs...just once I'd like to win a 90 plus card. This game is a designed rip off. I needed cal ripkin Jr 42 series card to complete my 42 series as I had 3 of them left to get my 99 jackie....ripkin went up to 95k stubbs where as a few days before eit was half of that at least...didn't know what was going on, I bought it, the next day it was back down to 30k stubbs again....I was like what in the flying f....this game has always been a rip off. The cost of game itself isn't enough for them

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  • RayLewisSB47_PSNR Offline
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    @vvsharkyvv_xbl said in If “pack odds” were truly legit…:

    @earths-flat_xbl said in If “pack odds” were truly legit…:

    we would/should get at least one diamond with every 10 pack bundle and 5 with a 50 pack yet I seem to get 1 diamond out of every 10 10pack bundles and maybe 5 diamonds out of every 10 50 pack bundles. The shown/given odds are a lie. I’m new and thought “wow a 50 pack bundle I’m bound to get something”. No more of the pack buying nonsense for me.

    Dude I've open a gazillion bazillion packs and I got an 85 card once ,he was only 5500 stubs...just once I'd like to win a 90 plus card. This game is a designed rip off. I needed cal ripkin Jr 42 series card to complete my 42 series as I had 3 of them left to get my 99 jackie....ripkin went up to 95k stubbs where as a few days before eit was half of that at least...didn't know what was going on, I bought it, the next day it was back down to 30k stubbs again....I was like what in the flying f....this game has always been a rip off. The cost of game itself isn't enough for them

    Based on all of your posts, it’s clear that SDS is out to get you.

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  • dewrock_PSND Offline
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    @dolenz_psn said in If “pack odds” were truly legit…:

    Odds are not guarantees.

    Flipping a coin is a 1:2 chance of coming up heads but that does not mean that if I flip twice I am guaranteed to get heads. I could get 10 tails in a row.

    Also, there is way to much scrutiny on these types of game and in game purchases for them to bother lying about pack odds. It could get them in serious trouble especially in other countries.

    Yes but if you flip it enough times, your percentage of heads and tails is going to be close to 50/50.

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