Ran into another zen user a while ago
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I have one question, and it has nothing to do with going against anything you said. Why don’t you adjust to the pitcher and sit on one of the pictures if not both? Does this Zen device prevent you from being able to hit the ball as well?
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@bostondirtdog21 said in Ran into another zen user a while ago:
I have one question, and it has nothing to do with going against anything you said. Why don’t you adjust to the pitcher and sit on one of the pictures if not both? Does this Zen device prevent you from being able to hit the ball as well?
It makes deceptive pitches waaay more effective when you can paint the black after going out of the zone.
Have you played on legend difficulty in World Series?
Go sit down and take your meds.
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@codywolfgang_xbl said in Ran into another zen user a while ago:
@d_e_m_i_s_e_psn said in Ran into another zen user a while ago:
Pretty obvious when you run into one of these pitchers. The guy I played wa[censored]ting the line and corner whenever he wanted with any pitch.
You see, the PAR will not allow you to do this all the time. For instance, I think Lee Smith forkball is 77 control which is a fairly big PAR. Even if you were to hit perfect you could not hit the black or corner every time. The PAR system will not allow it. From what I see, the zen goes wherever you put the ball.
I know some people will say you lost. I don't care about the loss. I've already made WS. A loss means nothing to me. If it makes anyone feel better, I will get on tomorrow night and quit out of 5 games straight. This has zero to do with wins and losses. There are people using this device online. Super easy to spot during the course of a 9 inning game. Even if you are perfect on every pitch, you are not going to dot the corners whenever you want with any pitch. Easier to do with Maddux yes but like a Lee Smith forkball, you are not going to dot the corners with that pitch due to PAR.
People want to complain about pinpoint pitching. The main problem is there are people using the zen online in this game. Hopefully SDS does something about it because it is pretty easy to spot. Watch any top level player and they will not put every pitch where they want. They will either miss the perfect or the PAR will be too big for that particular pitch to allow this.
I was wondering how half my opponents in World Series can bust me inside with two cutters and then put the sinker on the black automatically.
So here are some popular pitchers with their sinker and cutter control:
Hershiser 93 87
Leiter 95 90
Maddux 99 94
Wainwright 82 87
Burnes 97 94
Webb 99 69As you can see Hershiser, Leiter, Maddux and Burnes all have very good control with both pitches. A good pinpoint pitcher could do this. However, Webb's cutter should not be dotting black and corners very much as the PAR on his cutter would be very large. The player last night was dotting Smith's forkball that has a 77 control rating along with other secondary pitches. This is where the problem lies. Had he been dotting these pitches with say Maddux, I wouldn't have thought anything about it.
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@d_e_m_i_s_e_psn said in Ran into another zen user a while ago:
@codywolfgang_xbl said in Ran into another zen user a while ago:
@d_e_m_i_s_e_psn said in Ran into another zen user a while ago:
Pretty obvious when you run into one of these pitchers. The guy I played wa[censored]ting the line and corner whenever he wanted with any pitch.
You see, the PAR will not allow you to do this all the time. For instance, I think Lee Smith forkball is 77 control which is a fairly big PAR. Even if you were to hit perfect you could not hit the black or corner every time. The PAR system will not allow it. From what I see, the zen goes wherever you put the ball.
I know some people will say you lost. I don't care about the loss. I've already made WS. A loss means nothing to me. If it makes anyone feel better, I will get on tomorrow night and quit out of 5 games straight. This has zero to do with wins and losses. There are people using this device online. Super easy to spot during the course of a 9 inning game. Even if you are perfect on every pitch, you are not going to dot the corners whenever you want with any pitch. Easier to do with Maddux yes but like a Lee Smith forkball, you are not going to dot the corners with that pitch due to PAR.
People want to complain about pinpoint pitching. The main problem is there are people using the zen online in this game. Hopefully SDS does something about it because it is pretty easy to spot. Watch any top level player and they will not put every pitch where they want. They will either miss the perfect or the PAR will be too big for that particular pitch to allow this.
I was wondering how half my opponents in World Series can bust me inside with two cutters and then put the sinker on the black automatically.
So here are some popular pitchers with their sinker and cutter control:
Hershiser 93 87
Leiter 95 90
Maddux 99 94
Wainwright 82 87
Burnes 97 94
Webb 99 69As you can see Hershiser, Leiter, Maddux and Burnes all have very good control with both pitches. A good pinpoint pitcher could do this. However, Webb's cutter should not be dotting black and corners very much as the PAR on his cutter would be very large. The player last night was dotting Smith's forkball that has a 77 control rating along with other secondary pitches. This is where the problem lies. Had he been dotting these pitches with say Maddux, I wouldn't have thought anything about it.
I’ve run into some guys in BR that are able to dot the low inside corner with Chapman….his ball window is over half the strike zone in BR.
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@bigceddibiase said in Ran into another zen user a while ago:
It’s crazy those to Dudes who tried to troll me aren’t on your post... the one guy replies to every single thread. I’m almost convinced they use this themselves. It’s ridiculous people use BS on a videogame. Lol what type [censored] are u in real life
The zen works for pitching. You'll lose if you hit with it. Hitting it tries to cover the whole zone and it won't be on the pitches everytime due to how it moves.
I've faced people online that used it for pitching and it's obvious as hell.
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I just think it's funny how guys think the Zen isn't real and doesn't work and blah blah Either they are using it and defending it so they don't get caught ,or they are just straight up ignorant to fact that there is video proof of people using it. Too funny.
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@D_e_m_I_s_E_PSN can you let me know when you're getting on and quitting five straight tonight? I am still a few wins from 40 and would love a free one.
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@thaghettoblasta said in Ran into another zen user a while ago:
I just think it's funny how guys think the Zen isn't real and doesn't work and blah blah Either they are using it and defending it so they don't get caught ,or they are just straight up ignorant to fact that there is video proof of people using it. Too funny.
Not only using it but according to a couple morons. It doesn’t help
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@lucas8181_psn said in Ran into another zen user a while ago:
@bigceddibiase said in Ran into another zen user a while ago:
It’s crazy those to Dudes who tried to troll me aren’t on your post... the one guy replies to every single thread. I’m almost convinced they use this themselves. It’s ridiculous people use BS on a videogame. Lol what type [censored] are u in real life
This is why I offered to stream our game, because you accused me of using it myself. The offers still open, last time you ran away.
Even with zen, par applies. However, all [censored] have a "par" tendency, and it's different with each pitcher. If you know the tendancy of the ball you know where to set the par. From there, you can get dots every time.
The only way to actually see the par is to use pulse pitching, which has always been the most accurate, and gives the most feedback.
The guy was using pulse.
"It's crazy to dudes who tried to troll me aren't on your post"
Some of us sleep boss. We aren't trolling. When you accuse someone of cheating, expect us to want to prove your accusation false.
Logic, it's not just a class in college.
Again u say people use it but it don’t work! No sense at all. All you do is go on people post and make smart remarks like the female who lacks attention. You’re cool in a forum probably a basement dweller in real life that goes around multiple sites spewing unnecessary jabs at people you’ll never meet but can’t type faster than.
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@spc_garza_psn said in Ran into another zen user a while ago:
@d_e_m_i_s_e_psn said in Ran into another zen user a while ago:
Pretty obvious when you run into one of these pitchers. The guy I played wa[censored]ting the line and corner whenever he wanted with any pitch.
You see, the PAR will not allow you to do this all the time. For instance, I think Lee Smith forkball is 77 control which is a fairly big PAR. Even if you were to hit perfect you could not hit the black or corner every time. The PAR system will not allow it. From what I see, the zen goes wherever you put the ball.
I know some people will say you lost. I don't care about the loss. I've already made WS. A loss means nothing to me. If it makes anyone feel better, I will get on tomorrow night and quit out of 5 games straight. This has zero to do with wins and losses. There are people using this device online. Super easy to spot during the course of a 9 inning game. Even if you are perfect on every pitch, you are not going to dot the corners whenever you want with any pitch. Easier to do with Maddux yes but like a Lee Smith forkball, you are not going to dot the corners with that pitch due to PAR.
People want to complain about pinpoint pitching. The main problem is there are people using the zen online in this game. Hopefully SDS does something about it because it is pretty easy to spot. Watch any top level player and they will not put every pitch where they want. They will either miss the perfect or the PAR will be too big for that particular pitch to allow this.
What the hell is Zen?
It’s the 2021 version of the original Call of Duty “lag switch”. Basically something that likely exists in 1 out of a million matches yet any time Billy loses it has to be because of hax not because he faced a better player.
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@thaghettoblasta said in Ran into another zen user a while ago:
I just think it's funny how guys think the Zen isn't real and doesn't work and blah blah Either they are using it and defending it so they don't get caught ,or they are just straight up ignorant to fact that there is video proof of people using it. Too funny.
This argument again. Love it. I do hope you understand how little logic this argument has.
It's the same as religious folks.
"God is real""Prove it"
"I don't have to, but if you don't believe....."
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@snakeeyes187_psn said in Ran into another zen user a while ago:
@spc_garza_psn said in Ran into another zen user a while ago:
@d_e_m_i_s_e_psn said in Ran into another zen user a while ago:
Pretty obvious when you run into one of these pitchers. The guy I played wa[censored]ting the line and corner whenever he wanted with any pitch.
You see, the PAR will not allow you to do this all the time. For instance, I think Lee Smith forkball is 77 control which is a fairly big PAR. Even if you were to hit perfect you could not hit the black or corner every time. The PAR system will not allow it. From what I see, the zen goes wherever you put the ball.
I know some people will say you lost. I don't care about the loss. I've already made WS. A loss means nothing to me. If it makes anyone feel better, I will get on tomorrow night and quit out of 5 games straight. This has zero to do with wins and losses. There are people using this device online. Super easy to spot during the course of a 9 inning game. Even if you are perfect on every pitch, you are not going to dot the corners whenever you want with any pitch. Easier to do with Maddux yes but like a Lee Smith forkball, you are not going to dot the corners with that pitch due to PAR.
People want to complain about pinpoint pitching. The main problem is there are people using the zen online in this game. Hopefully SDS does something about it because it is pretty easy to spot. Watch any top level player and they will not put every pitch where they want. They will either miss the perfect or the PAR will be too big for that particular pitch to allow this.
What the hell is Zen?
It’s the 2021 version of the original Call of Duty “lag switch”. Basically something that likely exists in 1 out of a million matches yet any time Billy loses it has to be because of hax not because he faced a better player.
Here we go. I have lost over 60 games and have only questioned this twice. Get a new argument.
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@gohardgrandpa said in Ran into another zen user a while ago:
@bigceddibiase said in Ran into another zen user a while ago:
It’s crazy those to Dudes who tried to troll me aren’t on your post... the one guy replies to every single thread. I’m almost convinced they use this themselves. It’s ridiculous people use BS on a videogame. Lol what type [censored] are u in real life
The zen works for pitching. You'll lose if you hit with it. Hitting it tries to cover the whole zone and it won't be on the pitches everytime due to how it moves.
I've faced people online that used it for pitching and it's obvious as hell.
I think it is pretty obvious too in a 9 inning game. Doesn't exist or work according to people on here.
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@mereel13_psn said in Ran into another zen user a while ago:
@D_e_m_I_s_E_PSN can you let me know when you're getting on and quitting five straight tonight? I am still a few wins from 40 and would love a free one.
Not sure what rank you are but I am probably around 925. If you aren't close the odds are not good for you to match up with me.
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@mereel13_psn said in Ran into another zen user a while ago:
@D_e_m_I_s_E_PSN can you let me know when you're getting on and quitting five straight tonight? I am still a few wins from 40 and would love a free one.
@Mereel13_PSN I am a man of my word. I have to eat dinner but will probably be on around 5:45-6 cst.
I am currently 113-67 in RS. Check my game history and I will be 113-72. I am going to play RS after I quit my 5 games. This record means nothing to me. Did I reach my goal of 900? I was going to try to beat last season of 974 but that will be a little tougher quitting 5 straight. I still have to finish the event and BR program.
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@Mereel13_PSN Jumping on now for 5 losses.
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@Mereel13_PSN Done. 113-72. Went from like 924 to 840
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I use it but it doesn't help I play the same w out it
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