The Great Teeter-Totter
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Believe what you want. There are "bots" (for a better word) that are created by the company for the sole purpose of a symbolic illusion that you can "get gud" at this game. The game does not reward practice and ability. Frankly, the games strength (and intention of RS) is creating a pseudo-competitive environment that the gullible believe is for real.
But, SDS double-downs (like the EA line also do) to market/promote this whole fakery narrative about folks having absurdly great records. It's extremely easy for these companies to do and, if you wouldn't expect such tactics..you really are gullible.
Bottom line..anyone with even mediocre eye-reflexes would master the PCI and connect on anything that was in the zone. The designers know this...they know they can't have the entire customer base bashing 20-30 HR's per game. So, they implement manipulation to bring some semblance of realism. You know..the constantly lying PCI feedback. It's all it takes for the AI..not the player..to control the game. And, it sure does.
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@codywolfgang_xbl said in The Great Teeter-Totter:
@hikes83_psn said in The Great Teeter-Totter:
@raesone_psn said in The Great Teeter-Totter:
@johnny_reb34_psn said in The Great Teeter-Totter:
@hikes83_psn said in The Great Teeter-Totter:
@johnny_reb34_psn said in The Great Teeter-Totter:
@raesone_psn said in The Great Teeter-Totter:
@johnny_reb34_psn said in The Great Teeter-Totter:
RS - all the excitement of a teeter-totter. Up you go and win then down you go to lose. At the end of the season everyone will be within striking distance of .500 one way or the other. It's just the way SDS do for the sake of customer marketing.
But, holy cow, isn't it fun when the AI queues up our "Exciting" win. Just don't get used to it, because that teeter-totter will drop when your next opponent gets the AI win.
Keep chasing all those high diamonds...they make about as much difference as an umbrella in a tsunami when the AI declares - "you will lose if I have to make every pitch in the PCI obviously (yet ridiculously) manipulated and contrived".
It's like watching a drag show. You can't turn away, but are just morbidly fascinated at the absurdity you're watching. But, hey, sometimes when the game dice roll your win..it can be sorta fun.
Haven't finished even remotely close to .500 on the year since MLBTS 15.
Yeah, don't know which direction you are but it's a pretty well known fact the company markets false standings and fake stats in RS. So, there is that.
But, hey, if you're one of those 110-9 claimers..Congratulations you're awesome and I believe every word.
If you claim to be 90-75 I might really believe you.
“It’s a known fact the company markets false standings and fake stats”
Please elaborate. I feel like laughing tonight
I did elaborate..did I stutter too?
Can't really tell through text honestly
Didn’t elaborate either... ask a guy where he gets that stuff and he can’t explain
Another tinfoil enthusiast
I think he is right and wrong. There can be quite a bit of luck involved and you can toil around .500.
Where he is wrong is that you can become good enough at the game to where you overcome the randomness and have a dominant record.
OVERCOME RANDOMNESS? Random would mean you never know when it's coming and equal opportunity..not prejudice. It's not randomness...it's controlled parity. Big difference.
One thing you implied is semi-correct. The better players have to deal with a lot more manipulation in their losses than the lesser skilled do. But, don't fool yourself, this game will pour on the manipulation to dictate and steer the parity.
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@johnny_reb34_psn said in The Great Teeter-Totter:
Believe what you want. There are "bots" (for a better word) that are created by the company for the sole purpose of a symbolic illusion that you can "get gud" at this game. The game does not reward practice and ability. Frankly, the games strength (and intention of RS) is creating a pseudo-competitive environment that the gullible believe is for real.
But, SDS double-downs (like the EA line also do) to market/promote this whole fakery narrative about folks having absurdly great records. It's extremely easy for these companies to do and, if you wouldn't expect such tactics..you really are gullible.
Bottom line..anyone with even mediocre eye-reflexes would master the PCI and connect on anything that was in the zone. The designers know this...they know they can't have the entire customer base bashing 20-30 HR's per game. So, they implement manipulation to bring some semblance of realism. You know..the constantly lying PCI feedback. It's all it takes for the AI..not the player..to control the game. And, it sure does.
So you are saying they manipulate where you placed the pci?
I don’t think that is the case, however there are times where you could hit five straight bombs on perfect pci placement and other times when you fly out five straight times.
If you are good enough you can overcome that to where you eventually get your bombs/XBHs and win.
Pitching is also something that takes trial and error and time to learn. Not really time to learn to throw the pitches, but to learn which pitches players are most likely to chase and pitch sequences/locations that seem to generate outs more than others.
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By manipulation I mean the fakery. PCI feedback that only has to give misinformation once to create a 1-0 end-game. But, the PCI feedback is seldom close to reality. I'm pretty confident (coded gaming software for a couple decades) the outcome of every AB sits in a programmed case statement that already has decided a conclusion and just spits out animation to support the outcome.
No one in this world is good enuf to "beat" code..because code doesn't know who you are..all it knows is how to satisfy decision statements...game outcomes.
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@johnny_reb34_psn said in The Great Teeter-Totter:
@codywolfgang_xbl said in The Great Teeter-Totter:
@hikes83_psn said in The Great Teeter-Totter:
@raesone_psn said in The Great Teeter-Totter:
@johnny_reb34_psn said in The Great Teeter-Totter:
@hikes83_psn said in The Great Teeter-Totter:
@johnny_reb34_psn said in The Great Teeter-Totter:
@raesone_psn said in The Great Teeter-Totter:
@johnny_reb34_psn said in The Great Teeter-Totter:
RS - all the excitement of a teeter-totter. Up you go and win then down you go to lose. At the end of the season everyone will be within striking distance of .500 one way or the other. It's just the way SDS do for the sake of customer marketing.
But, holy cow, isn't it fun when the AI queues up our "Exciting" win. Just don't get used to it, because that teeter-totter will drop when your next opponent gets the AI win.
Keep chasing all those high diamonds...they make about as much difference as an umbrella in a tsunami when the AI declares - "you will lose if I have to make every pitch in the PCI obviously (yet ridiculously) manipulated and contrived".
It's like watching a drag show. You can't turn away, but are just morbidly fascinated at the absurdity you're watching. But, hey, sometimes when the game dice roll your win..it can be sorta fun.
Haven't finished even remotely close to .500 on the year since MLBTS 15.
Yeah, don't know which direction you are but it's a pretty well known fact the company markets false standings and fake stats in RS. So, there is that.
But, hey, if you're one of those 110-9 claimers..Congratulations you're awesome and I believe every word.
If you claim to be 90-75 I might really believe you.
“It’s a known fact the company markets false standings and fake stats”
Please elaborate. I feel like laughing tonight
I did elaborate..did I stutter too?
Can't really tell through text honestly
Didn’t elaborate either... ask a guy where he gets that stuff and he can’t explain
Another tinfoil enthusiast
I think he is right and wrong. There can be quite a bit of luck involved and you can toil around .500.
Where he is wrong is that you can become good enough at the game to where you overcome the randomness and have a dominant record.
OVERCOME RANDOMNESS? Random would mean you never know when it's coming and equal opportunity..not prejudice. It's not randomness...it's controlled parity. Big difference.
One thing you implied is semi-correct. The better players have to deal with a lot more manipulation in their losses than the lesser skilled do. But, don't fool yourself, this game will pour on the manipulation to dictate and steer the parity.
The Show gives out so much for free I don’t believe they are manipulating the games for player engagement purposes. I haven’t spent a dollar on in game purchases on MLB since I started in 2015. I have consistently been able to make WS and go 12-0 every year.
I’ve also played Madden and 2K. I’ve spent probably more than I want to count or admit on those games. Those games are what you should be discussing.
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@codywolfgang_xbl said in The Great Teeter-Totter:
@johnny_reb34_psn said in The Great Teeter-Totter:
Believe what you want. There are "bots" (for a better word) that are created by the company for the sole purpose of a symbolic illusion that you can "get gud" at this game. The game does not reward practice and ability. Frankly, the games strength (and intention of RS) is creating a pseudo-competitive environment that the gullible believe is for real.
But, SDS double-downs (like the EA line also do) to market/promote this whole fakery narrative about folks having absurdly great records. It's extremely easy for these companies to do and, if you wouldn't expect such tactics..you really are gullible.
Bottom line..anyone with even mediocre eye-reflexes would master the PCI and connect on anything that was in the zone. The designers know this...they know they can't have the entire customer base bashing 20-30 HR's per game. So, they implement manipulation to bring some semblance of realism. You know..the constantly lying PCI feedback. It's all it takes for the AI..not the player..to control the game. And, it sure does.
So you are saying they manipulate where you placed the pci?
I don’t think that is the case, however there are times where you could hit five straight bombs on perfect pci placement and other times when you fly out five straight times.
If you are good enough you can overcome that to where you eventually get your bombs/XBHs and win.
Pitching is also something that takes trial and error and time to learn. Not really time to learn to throw the pitches, but to learn which pitches players are most likely to chase and pitch sequences/locations that seem to generate outs more than others.
NO..YOU don't overcome anything. The software decides everything. Maybe I'm jaded because I wrote software and understand it. I can almost see the code firing off when I'm playing the game.
Oh well, you keep on believing that your "superior" skill or some "created master" SDS has marketed can beat the computer code that is dictating every bit that flows out of the controller and eventually it converts into animation. I don't.
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@johnny_reb34_psn said in The Great Teeter-Totter:
By manipulation I mean the fakery. PCI feedback that only has to give misinformation once to create a 1-0 end-game. But, the PCI feedback is seldom close to reality. I'm pretty confident (coded gaming software for a couple decades) the outcome of every AB sits in a programmed case statement that already has decided a conclusion and just spits out animation to support the outcome.
No one in this world is good enuf to "beat" code..because code doesn't know who you are..all it knows is how to satisfy decision statements...game outcomes.
Im sorry but no.....if you don’t swing at any pitches out of the zone and take good swings on the balls you do swing at in the zone you can dominate offensively in this game. I understand what you are saying, but I think what you are elaborating on might be at most like 25 percent of what influences the outcome. The rest is user input.
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@johnny_reb34_psn said in The Great Teeter-Totter:
@codywolfgang_xbl said in The Great Teeter-Totter:
@johnny_reb34_psn said in The Great Teeter-Totter:
Believe what you want. There are "bots" (for a better word) that are created by the company for the sole purpose of a symbolic illusion that you can "get gud" at this game. The game does not reward practice and ability. Frankly, the games strength (and intention of RS) is creating a pseudo-competitive environment that the gullible believe is for real.
But, SDS double-downs (like the EA line also do) to market/promote this whole fakery narrative about folks having absurdly great records. It's extremely easy for these companies to do and, if you wouldn't expect such tactics..you really are gullible.
Bottom line..anyone with even mediocre eye-reflexes would master the PCI and connect on anything that was in the zone. The designers know this...they know they can't have the entire customer base bashing 20-30 HR's per game. So, they implement manipulation to bring some semblance of realism. You know..the constantly lying PCI feedback. It's all it takes for the AI..not the player..to control the game. And, it sure does.
So you are saying they manipulate where you placed the pci?
I don’t think that is the case, however there are times where you could hit five straight bombs on perfect pci placement and other times when you fly out five straight times.
If you are good enough you can overcome that to where you eventually get your bombs/XBHs and win.
Pitching is also something that takes trial and error and time to learn. Not really time to learn to throw the pitches, but to learn which pitches players are most likely to chase and pitch sequences/locations that seem to generate outs more than others.
NO..YOU don't overcome anything. The software decides everything. Maybe I'm jaded because I wrote software and understand it. I can almost see the code firing off when I'm playing the game.
Oh well, you keep on believing that your "superior" skill or some "created master" SDS has marketed can beat the computer code that is dictating every bit that flows out of the controller and eventually it converts into animation. I don't.
How does the coding decide if you swing at an inside slider coming at you with a full count?
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@codywolfgang_xbl said in The Great Teeter-Totter:
@johnny_reb34_psn said in The Great Teeter-Totter:
@codywolfgang_xbl said in The Great Teeter-Totter:
@hikes83_psn said in The Great Teeter-Totter:
@raesone_psn said in The Great Teeter-Totter:
@johnny_reb34_psn said in The Great Teeter-Totter:
@hikes83_psn said in The Great Teeter-Totter:
@johnny_reb34_psn said in The Great Teeter-Totter:
@raesone_psn said in The Great Teeter-Totter:
@johnny_reb34_psn said in The Great Teeter-Totter:
RS - all the excitement of a teeter-totter. Up you go and win then down you go to lose. At the end of the season everyone will be within striking distance of .500 one way or the other. It's just the way SDS do for the sake of customer marketing.
But, holy cow, isn't it fun when the AI queues up our "Exciting" win. Just don't get used to it, because that teeter-totter will drop when your next opponent gets the AI win.
Keep chasing all those high diamonds...they make about as much difference as an umbrella in a tsunami when the AI declares - "you will lose if I have to make every pitch in the PCI obviously (yet ridiculously) manipulated and contrived".
It's like watching a drag show. You can't turn away, but are just morbidly fascinated at the absurdity you're watching. But, hey, sometimes when the game dice roll your win..it can be sorta fun.
Haven't finished even remotely close to .500 on the year since MLBTS 15.
Yeah, don't know which direction you are but it's a pretty well known fact the company markets false standings and fake stats in RS. So, there is that.
But, hey, if you're one of those 110-9 claimers..Congratulations you're awesome and I believe every word.
If you claim to be 90-75 I might really believe you.
“It’s a known fact the company markets false standings and fake stats”
Please elaborate. I feel like laughing tonight
I did elaborate..did I stutter too?
Can't really tell through text honestly
Didn’t elaborate either... ask a guy where he gets that stuff and he can’t explain
Another tinfoil enthusiast
I think he is right and wrong. There can be quite a bit of luck involved and you can toil around .500.
Where he is wrong is that you can become good enough at the game to where you overcome the randomness and have a dominant record.
OVERCOME RANDOMNESS? Random would mean you never know when it's coming and equal opportunity..not prejudice. It's not randomness...it's controlled parity. Big difference.
One thing you implied is semi-correct. The better players have to deal with a lot more manipulation in their losses than the lesser skilled do. But, don't fool yourself, this game will pour on the manipulation to dictate and steer the parity.
The Show gives out so much for free I don’t believe they are manipulating the games for player engagement purposes. I haven’t spent a dollar on in game purchases on MLB since I started in 2015. I have consistently been able to make WS and go 12-0 every year.
I’ve also played Madden and 2K. I’ve spent probably more than I want to count or admit on those games. Those games are what you should be discussing.
I believe this game is way-way-way better at feeding players free loot than anything EA packages. It's pretty indisputable. So far SDS hasn't gotten real hung-up on forcing gamers to buy stubs to stay competitive.
Point SDS.
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Wow. That is quite the conspiracy theory.
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@johnny_reb34_psn said in The Great Teeter-Totter:
Believe what you want. There are "bots" (for a better word) that are created by the company for the sole purpose of a symbolic illusion that you can "get gud" at this game. The game does not reward practice and ability. Frankly, the games strength (and intention of RS) is creating a pseudo-competitive environment that the gullible believe is for real.
But, SDS double-downs (like the EA line also do) to market/promote this whole fakery narrative about folks having absurdly great records. It's extremely easy for these companies to do and, if you wouldn't expect such tactics..you really are gullible.
Bottom line..anyone with even mediocre eye-reflexes would master the PCI and connect on anything that was in the zone. The designers know this...they know they can't have the entire customer base bashing 20-30 HR's per game. So, they implement manipulation to bring some semblance of realism. You know..the constantly lying PCI feedback. It's all it takes for the AI..not the player..to control the game. And, it sure does.
Yeah SDS asked me if they could market my 36-4 record. I kindly declined, I’m shy
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@codywolfgang_xbl said in The Great Teeter-Totter:
@johnny_reb34_psn said in The Great Teeter-Totter:
@codywolfgang_xbl said in The Great Teeter-Totter:
@johnny_reb34_psn said in The Great Teeter-Totter:
Believe what you want. There are "bots" (for a better word) that are created by the company for the sole purpose of a symbolic illusion that you can "get gud" at this game. The game does not reward practice and ability. Frankly, the games strength (and intention of RS) is creating a pseudo-competitive environment that the gullible believe is for real.
But, SDS double-downs (like the EA line also do) to market/promote this whole fakery narrative about folks having absurdly great records. It's extremely easy for these companies to do and, if you wouldn't expect such tactics..you really are gullible.
Bottom line..anyone with even mediocre eye-reflexes would master the PCI and connect on anything that was in the zone. The designers know this...they know they can't have the entire customer base bashing 20-30 HR's per game. So, they implement manipulation to bring some semblance of realism. You know..the constantly lying PCI feedback. It's all it takes for the AI..not the player..to control the game. And, it sure does.
So you are saying they manipulate where you placed the pci?
I don’t think that is the case, however there are times where you could hit five straight bombs on perfect pci placement and other times when you fly out five straight times.
If you are good enough you can overcome that to where you eventually get your bombs/XBHs and win.
Pitching is also something that takes trial and error and time to learn. Not really time to learn to throw the pitches, but to learn which pitches players are most likely to chase and pitch sequences/locations that seem to generate outs more than others.
NO..YOU don't overcome anything. The software decides everything. Maybe I'm jaded because I wrote software and understand it. I can almost see the code firing off when I'm playing the game.
Oh well, you keep on believing that your "superior" skill or some "created master" SDS has marketed can beat the computer code that is dictating every bit that flows out of the controller and eventually it converts into animation. I don't.
How does the coding decide if you swing at an inside slider coming at you with a full count?
Well, if you're paying attention it doesn't always use your controller feedback. And, it only takes a couple aI interactions a game (where it places your PCI where it wants) it to stack the game and keep parity.
I hit a homerun in a game earlier today that I checked up on. Yet it was the game winning homerun off a high fastball above and in the right corner of the zone. I checked up..barely moved my PCI at all. Yet it went "WHACK" and "perfect swing" and all that other nonsense and my opponent probably felt pretty bad about it. I did. Sure didn't feel vindicated because the AI beat my opponent..not me.
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Also, there are many folks in this forum with a vested interest in promoting the 'ol competitive game theory. I would say those are your tin-foil hat wearers, but the majority are SDS gate-keepers, fan-boyz with some sort of agenda to perpetuate the myth. They know better but post quite differently.
And, those that are pure of heart, don't believe those fabricated records. Again, these game designers can write script to create fake games, box-scores, standings, records, etc. much-much easier than creating animation. That's baby stuff. If you don't believe they would resort to such things...again..naivety can be contagious.
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@nanthrax_1_psn said in The Great Teeter-Totter:
I'm not even remotely elite at this game online, but I've never finished near .500 either since '15 when DD really became what it is.. usually win 2 out of every 3.
I don't think it's a well known fact to anybody what you're saying, because you're the only person to have ever said this lol
And, frankly, I don't believe that. Because that means somewhere out there is someone that loses 2 out of every 3. SDS (the AI they coded to prohibit such a catastrophe) would never allow this to REALLY happen. Because they would lose customers.
This is edited because my "quote" didn't get the part where this crazy cat said "I usually win 2 out of 3". Well, that's a jacked-up statement because prefacing "I usually" with an actual, yet obviously generalized pulled-out-of-his-hiney statistic defies statistics. Either you always win 2 out of 3 or you never win 2 out of 3. There is no usually. C'mon man, stand up tall and tell it right. Ha.
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@johnny_reb34_psn said in The Great Teeter-Totter:
@nanthrax_1_psn said in The Great Teeter-Totter:
I'm not even remotely elite at this game online, but I've never finished near .500 either since '15 when DD really became what it is.. usually win 2 out of every 3.
I don't think it's a well known fact to anybody what you're saying, because you're the only person to have ever said this lol
And, frankly, I don't believe that. Because that means somewhere out there is someone that loses 2 out of every 3. SDS (the AI they coded to prohibit such a catastrophe) would never allow this to REALLY happen. Because they would lose customers.
This is edited because my "quote" didn't get the part where this crazy cat said "I usually win 2 out of 3". Well, that's a jacked-up statement because prefacing "I usually" with an actual, yet obviously generalized pulled-out-of-his-hiney statistic defies statistics. Either you always win 2 out of 3 or you never win 2 out of 3. There is no usually. C'mon man, stand up tall and tell it right. Ha.
My stats are viewable on my profile..
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@nanthrax_1_psn said in The Great Teeter-Totter:
@johnny_reb34_psn said in The Great Teeter-Totter:
@nanthrax_1_psn said in The Great Teeter-Totter:
I'm not even remotely elite at this game online, but I've never finished near .500 either since '15 when DD really became what it is.. usually win 2 out of every 3.
I don't think it's a well known fact to anybody what you're saying, because you're the only person to have ever said this lol
And, frankly, I don't believe that. Because that means somewhere out there is someone that loses 2 out of every 3. SDS (the AI they coded to prohibit such a catastrophe) would never allow this to REALLY happen. Because they would lose customers.
This is edited because my "quote" didn't get the part where this crazy cat said "I usually win 2 out of 3". Well, that's a jacked-up statement because prefacing "I usually" with an actual, yet obviously generalized pulled-out-of-his-hiney statistic defies statistics. Either you always win 2 out of 3 or you never win 2 out of 3. There is no usually. C'mon man, stand up tall and tell it right. Ha.
My stats are viewable on my profile..
Also... you are out to lunch buddy.Out to lunch? At least I can lay some stats down without discrediting them in the same sentence. Geeesh. You need to be practicing your writing-skills more and RS less. RS will never help you in your career path. Even if you usually win 2 out of 3. I would say if you usually win 3 out of 3..it won't matter.
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[censored]! I wish my mind could create this kind of drama! What a wicked world you live in! Now sshut up and pass the joint. Your turn is over!
Annnd scene.
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@johnny_reb34_psn said in The Great Teeter-Totter:
@nanthrax_1_psn said in The Great Teeter-Totter:
@johnny_reb34_psn said in The Great Teeter-Totter:
@nanthrax_1_psn said in The Great Teeter-Totter:
I'm not even remotely elite at this game online, but I've never finished near .500 either since '15 when DD really became what it is.. usually win 2 out of every 3.
I don't think it's a well known fact to anybody what you're saying, because you're the only person to have ever said this lol
And, frankly, I don't believe that. Because that means somewhere out there is someone that loses 2 out of every 3. SDS (the AI they coded to prohibit such a catastrophe) would never allow this to REALLY happen. Because they would lose customers.
This is edited because my "quote" didn't get the part where this crazy cat said "I usually win 2 out of 3". Well, that's a jacked-up statement because prefacing "I usually" with an actual, yet obviously generalized pulled-out-of-his-hiney statistic defies statistics. Either you always win 2 out of 3 or you never win 2 out of 3. There is no usually. C'mon man, stand up tall and tell it right. Ha.
My stats are viewable on my profile..
Also... you are out to lunch buddy.Out to lunch? At least I can lay some stats down without discrediting them in the same sentence. Geeesh. You need to be practicing your writing-skills more and RS less. RS will never help you in your career path. Even if you usually win 2 out of 3. I would say if you usually win 3 out of 3..it won't matter.
I can feel your blood pressure from all the way over here. Calm down, relax. If a video game is frustrating or you feel it’s conspiring to manipulate the outcome then do something else. It’s not going to change because you’re exposing these deep rooted parity codings. For a majority of us it’s just fun to play. Content is great. I hope you find joy in this game as well.
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I wrote code for 2 decades... yeah right
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@johnny_reb34_psn said in The Great Teeter-Totter:
@nanthrax_1_psn said in The Great Teeter-Totter:
I'm not even remotely elite at this game online, but I've never finished near .500 either since '15 when DD really became what it is.. usually win 2 out of every 3.
I don't think it's a well known fact to anybody what you're saying, because you're the only person to have ever said this lol
And, frankly, I don't believe that. Because that means somewhere out there is someone that loses 2 out of every 3. SDS (the AI they coded to prohibit such a catastrophe) would never allow this to REALLY happen. Because they would lose customers.
This is edited because my "quote" didn't get the part where this crazy cat said "I usually win 2 out of 3". Well, that's a jacked-up statement because prefacing "I usually" with an actual, yet obviously generalized pulled-out-of-his-hiney statistic defies statistics. Either you always win 2 out of 3 or you never win 2 out of 3. There is no usually. C'mon man, stand up tall and tell it right. Ha.
I'm guessing you own a ton of stock in Reynolds Wrap.
