Thoughts on the shift against 800+ rated players
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I turned off auto shift right away this year but I noticed some top players still have it on. How has it fared against pretty tough players 800+? Personally I’ve hit a lot of jammed doubles off of the shift so I’m hesitant to turn it on.
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Well the answer is somewhat obvious maybe, but there are pros and cons to both. Leaving it on leaves one side open and makes you vulnerable for the late hit doubles. Turning it off makes you vulnerable against the pull hitters.
I always turn it off because if you can pull it for a base hit then kudos to you, that's good hitting. If you hit a double on a late jammed shot against the shift, that's awful hitting and leaves a bad taste in my mouth.
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@raesone_psn said in Thoughts on the shift against 800+ rated players:
Well the answer is somewhat obvious maybe, but there are pros and cons to both. Leaving it on leaves one side open and makes you vulnerable for the late hit doubles. Turning it off makes you vulnerable against the pull hitters.
I always turn it off because if you can pull it for a base hit then kudos to you, that's good hitting. If you hit a double on a late jammed shot against the shift, that's awful hitting and leaves a bad taste in my mouth.
Spot on ^ I turned it off because I hate very late doubles against the shift more than singles up the middle
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Yup turned it off and never looked back. Those oppo hits on late swings were pissing me off
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It’s hilarious when people still have shift on and keep pitching you outside. Absolutely defies the logic of using the shift.
If you’re gonna use it, you kinda have to pitch for it
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I typically turn it off just to avoid somebody bunting with their Chipper Jones
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@raesone_psn said in Thoughts on the shift against 800+ rated players:
Well the answer is somewhat obvious maybe, but there are pros and cons to both. Leaving it on leaves one side open and makes you vulnerable for the late hit doubles. Turning it off makes you vulnerable against the pull hitters.
I always turn it off because if you can pull it for a base hit then kudos to you, that's good hitting. If you hit a double on a late jammed shot against the shift, that's awful hitting and leaves a bad taste in my mouth.
Well said.
I also forget I have it on and some guys will bunt for a free hit.
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I cant remeber how to turn it off completely, can someone direct me please and thank you
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@raesone_psn said in Thoughts on the shift against 800+ rated players:
Well the answer is somewhat obvious maybe, but there are pros and cons to both. Leaving it on leaves one side open and makes you vulnerable for the late hit doubles. Turning it off makes you vulnerable against the pull hitters.
I always turn it off because if you can pull it for a base hit then kudos to you, that's good hitting. If you hit a double on a late jammed shot against the shift, that's awful hitting and leaves a bad taste in my mouth.
I disagree. If your pitching patterns to say Griffey has you pitching low and away offspeed I am going to sit back and go the other way slapping past your 3rd baseman. That's not awful hitting but actually great hitting, that taste in your mouth would still be awful though..Any coach would say "Hey nice sitting back and going with the pitch"! Yes it's called going with pitch again is great hitting.
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I leave it on; if someone tries to exploit it then I switch it; only faced one opponent who tried to so no big deal.
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@kingscountyog718 said in Thoughts on the shift against 800+ rated players:
@raesone_psn said in Thoughts on the shift against 800+ rated players:
Well the answer is somewhat obvious maybe, but there are pros and cons to both. Leaving it on leaves one side open and makes you vulnerable for the late hit doubles. Turning it off makes you vulnerable against the pull hitters.
I always turn it off because if you can pull it for a base hit then kudos to you, that's good hitting. If you hit a double on a late jammed shot against the shift, that's awful hitting and leaves a bad taste in my mouth.
I disagree. If your pitching patterns to say Griffey has you pitching low and away offspeed I am going to sit back and go the other way slapping past your 3rd baseman. That's not awful hitting but actually great hitting, that taste in your mouth would still be awful though..Any coach would say "Hey nice sitting back and going with the pitch"! Yes it's called going with pitch again is great hitting.
Pretty sure he meant if someone gets a jammed hit opposite field
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Not in the 800s yet but I’ve made WS before. Always turn it off. Way too many bloop jam shots.
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@kingscountyog718 said in Thoughts on the shift against 800+ rated players:
@raesone_psn said in Thoughts on the shift against 800+ rated players:
Well the answer is somewhat obvious maybe, but there are pros and cons to both. Leaving it on leaves one side open and makes you vulnerable for the late hit doubles. Turning it off makes you vulnerable against the pull hitters.
I always turn it off because if you can pull it for a base hit then kudos to you, that's good hitting. If you hit a double on a late jammed shot against the shift, that's awful hitting and leaves a bad taste in my mouth.
I disagree. If your pitching patterns to say Griffey has you pitching low and away offspeed I am going to sit back and go the other way slapping past your 3rd baseman. That's not awful hitting but actually great hitting, that taste in your mouth would still be awful though..Any coach would say "Hey nice sitting back and going with the pitch"! Yes it's called going with pitch again is great hitting.
9 out of 10 hits going against the shift are unintentional jammed hits.
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I always have the shift turned off. It is so easy to go oppo in this game by just swinging a tad late. I can’t tell you how many doubles & even triples I’ve gotten with Posada by simply pushing the ball to left.
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@raesone_psn said in Thoughts on the shift against 800+ rated players:
@kingscountyog718 said in Thoughts on the shift against 800+ rated players:
@raesone_psn said in Thoughts on the shift against 800+ rated players:
Well the answer is somewhat obvious maybe, but there are pros and cons to both. Leaving it on leaves one side open and makes you vulnerable for the late hit doubles. Turning it off makes you vulnerable against the pull hitters.
I always turn it off because if you can pull it for a base hit then kudos to you, that's good hitting. If you hit a double on a late jammed shot against the shift, that's awful hitting and leaves a bad taste in my mouth.
I disagree. If your pitching patterns to say Griffey has you pitching low and away offspeed I am going to sit back and go the other way slapping past your 3rd baseman. That's not awful hitting but actually great hitting, that taste in your mouth would still be awful though..Any coach would say "Hey nice sitting back and going with the pitch"! Yes it's called going with pitch again is great hitting.
9 out of 10 hits going against the shift are unintentional jammed hits.
For others. I got a few as well. I aim for that hit alot. On a baseball side of things jammed, bloop hits etc are part of baseball brother. Have a great night and a good week.
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Versus the auto shift (which I flipping hate that it's the default setting) if I have a LH hitter who can run a bit like Bellinger, for instance, I'll show bunt. While I really having any intention of bunting, often it will force them to take the shift off. And not just for that AB, but all applicable situations the rest of the game. Auto shift takes away a lot of hits so I really don't want them to use it lol
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I usually bunt a few times to pull my opponent out of the shift if your competitive auto shouldn't be an option.
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@hikes83_psn said in Thoughts on the shift against 800+ rated players:
It’s hilarious when people still have shift on and keep pitching you outside. Absolutely defies the logic of using the shift.
If you’re gonna use it, you kinda have to pitch for it
Well arguably against most players it causes them to hit weak pulled grounders on off speed pitches. Most people seem to be early on them. Of course I haven’t played many past 700 so it may change at the higher levels so I definitely understand that is dumb with advanced hitters.
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