Monitor
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I know, been asked before, but I can’t make heads or tails of the other posts and since there’s a variety of different requirements, figured I’d just ask again to make sure I get what is appropriate for me. (Plus it’s at least not another R2 spamming discussion!!)
I have PS5 and want a decent, but not super top of the line, monitor. I have no problem spending $200-$400 for a monitor, but I’m not spending $1,500.
Any recommendations to make the best use of the PS5 while also getting the specs that are important for MLB?
Appreciate the help.
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I picked up this monitor when I got the ps5:
ASUS TUF Gaming VG27WQ1B 27” Curved Monitor. -
@kangbang8888_psn said in Monitor:
I picked up this monitor when I got the ps5:
ASUS TUF Gaming VG27WQ1B 27” Curved Monitor.Appreciate it. I guess one of the things I’m confused about is the actual capabilities of the PS5. I’m probably misunderstanding, but I thought the PS5 doesn’t really handle anything higher than 60Hz. And I’m not even sure that it matters. I just want something that has decent graphics, but also has the best response time, if it’s even related.
It’s all confusing to this old man
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I bought the BenQ el2870u specifically for the show on PS5. This monitor has less than 10 ms of input lag making it one of the lowest input lag monitors around. Also the input lag stays the same running 4k resolution and even HDR. As stated it’s got 4k resolution and it has a 60 fps refresh rate. The 60 fps refresh rate is not great but it is the best that this years version of the show will do anyway. If you play games like call of duty that offer 120 fps refresh rates then this may not be the monitor for you. The monitor runs 4k at 60 hz with no problems, the 4k picture is great. The colors are good. I don’t use the HDR as it’s not great on this monitor, but it is available. I do use the picture setting of cinema hdr (have hdr turned off on my ps5) as to me it gives the best picture. Cost is about $300 so good value. Eventually when more and more monitors with hdmi 2.1 come out, hopefully they will get cheaper but for now, I believe this BenQ is as good as you can get for the show.
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@rtmink_psn said in Monitor:
BenQ el2870u
Appreciate it, The Show is really all I’m going to use it for. I used to play COD a ton, but then they added PC and it went to [censored] with all the hacks, even turning off cross play is horrible with all the console mods.
The only other games I play are AC and GoW, those I’ll play on the big screen for the better graphics and better immersive feel. I have no problem dropping $300 this year and then again next year when the tech catches up and has a more reasonable price tag.
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LG CX .... beats any monitor, any day of the week, and twice on Sundays. Also gives you the game at 4k. I am hitting insane this year with my CX (I got it just before '21 dropped) and also made WS. I can see and read pitches like you wouldn't believe. .3ms response time, and as low as 5.9ms input lag (1080p), 6.9ms at 4k@120 or 13.9 at 4k@60. I got the 65-inch and it allows for being able to see both incredible vertical and lateral movement of pitches...which makes it very easy to figure out the pitch. My batting average is up over 50 points from last year in RS. I am hitting over .400 with multiple players. It is not only the CX (I had a bad eye issue last year that impacted my vision and I finally figured out hitting overall), yet the CX does help.
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@savagesteve74 said in Monitor:
I know, been asked before, but I can’t make heads or tails of the other posts and since there’s a variety of different requirements, figured I’d just ask again to make sure I get what is appropriate for me. (Plus it’s at least not another R2 spamming discussion!!)
I have PS5 and want a decent, but not super top of the line, monitor. I have no problem spending $200-$400 for a monitor, but I’m not spending $1,500.
Any recommendations to make the best use of the PS5 while also getting the specs that are important for MLB?
Appreciate the help.
$270 - MSI Optix MAG27CQ 27" WQHD 144Hz
I bought this one last year. Plays great for all of my games. 1ms response time, which is what you need for the show.
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Here is a CHEAP 4K option. Normally closer to 300 bucks. IPS screen, so nice colors and viewing angles.
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@chuckclc_psn said in Monitor:
Here is a CHEAP 4K option. Normally closer to 300 bucks. IPS screen, so nice colors and viewing angles.
Thank you. Is 4ms good though? Everyone keeps saying 1ms are as close to that as possible. I know we are talking about micro-fractions at this point, but want to make sure.
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@tvsectog_psn said in Monitor:
LG CX .... beats any monitor, any day of the week, and twice on Sundays. Also gives you the game at 4k. I am hitting insane this year with my CX (I got it just before '21 dropped) and also made WS. I can see and read pitches like you wouldn't believe. .3ms response time, and as low as 5.9ms input lag (1080p), 6.9ms at 4k@120 or 13.9 at 4k@60. I got the 65-inch and it allows for being able to see both incredible vertical and lateral movement of pitches...which makes it very easy to figure out the pitch. My batting average is up over 50 points from last year in RS. I am hitting over .400 with multiple players. It is not only the CX (I had a bad eye issue last year that impacted my vision and I finally figured out hitting overall), yet the CX does help.
Come on now, it is a nice T.V. but you went way too far and talking out of your [censored] saying it beats any monitor.
I'm strictly a console gamer using a T.V and have for over 30 years and that made me laugh.
Also if you are playing on PS5 then you aren't using VRR since it isn't available yet. A few other things but you get the point
The actual stats of the LG cx
1080p @ 60Hz
13.6 ms
1080p @ 60Hz Outside Game Mode
97.0 ms
1440p @ 60Hz
13.8 ms
4k @ 60Hz
13.6 ms
4k @ 60Hz + 10-Bit HDR
13.5 ms
4k @ 60Hz @ 4:4:4
13.6 ms
4k @ 60Hz Outside Game Mode
97.0 ms
4k @ 60Hz With Interpolation
92.9 ms
8k @ 60Hz
N/A
1080p @ 120Hz
6.9 ms
1440p @ 120Hz
6.9 ms
4k @ 120Hz
6.7 ms
1080p with Variable Refresh Rate
5.9 ms
1440p with VRR
6.2 ms
4k with VRR
13.9 ms
8k with VRR
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Yes 4m is lightning fast. Its faster than a human eye can distinguish. That monotor he recommended is great! I woupd consider looking for a 32 inch if available. Also. Don't look past some of the 32-43 inch TVs on the market. The specs are incredible.
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@savagesteve74 said in Monitor:
@chuckclc_psn said in Monitor:
Here is a CHEAP 4K option. Normally closer to 300 bucks. IPS screen, so nice colors and viewing angles.
Thank you. Is 4ms good though? Everyone keeps saying 1ms are as close to that as possible. I know we are talking about micro-fractions at this point, but want to make sure.
That is Response time, Gray to gray color switching. How long it takes the pixel to change colors. Not as important as input lag at all. Also this monitor mentioned is an IPS panel. Only crappy TN panels can do true 1ms response times. But this IPS has a 1ms Response using VRB. So essentially it will look like 1ms. That being said I dont know how good this monitor is, i just know it is cheap as hell right now and has decent reviews.
I actually just bought it and I am gonna check it out for myself. I bought it off New Egg because it seems like it will arrive quicker from there. Also has a $20 PSN card from NE but cost a bit more.
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@wargazsem-_mlbts said in Monitor:
@tvsectog_psn said in Monitor:
LG CX .... beats any monitor, any day of the week, and twice on Sundays. Also gives you the game at 4k. I am hitting insane this year with my CX (I got it just before '21 dropped) and also made WS. I can see and read pitches like you wouldn't believe. .3ms response time, and as low as 5.9ms input lag (1080p), 6.9ms at 4k@120 or 13.9 at 4k@60. I got the 65-inch and it allows for being able to see both incredible vertical and lateral movement of pitches...which makes it very easy to figure out the pitch. My batting average is up over 50 points from last year in RS. I am hitting over .400 with multiple players. It is not only the CX (I had a bad eye issue last year that impacted my vision and I finally figured out hitting overall), yet the CX does help.
Come on now, it is a nice T.V. but you went way too far and talking out of your [censored] saying it beats any monitor.
I'm strictly a console gamer using a T.V and have for over 30 years and that made me laugh.
Consoles are limited to 120hz....so the 240hz and 360hz montors for PC gamers ....aren't going to do much/add for a console game. Also, the 240 and 360hz monitors only achieve their fastest specs at the highest refresh rate. If the gaming monitors can't operate at 240hz or 360hz their response time and input lags go up.
However, I'll clarify/correct my response. For gaming on an Xbox Series X or PS5....the CX is better than a gaming monitor because you can .....
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Actually see the game being played
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You get 4k and also HDR (not currently available on most gaming monitors)
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You get a TV that can also be used for other purposes, other than just for gaming
So, overall ...for console gaming...a CX is better than a gaming monitor, especially for us older players who have families and actually want to be able to see the game. When the Xbox Series XI comes out and it supports HDMI 3.1 or 4.1 .... and does 8k @ 120, 8k @240 or 8k@360 ...then a gaming monitor might give one an advantage....but by then I'll just upgrade my CX.
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@tvsectog_psn said in Monitor:
@wargazsem-_mlbts said in Monitor:
@tvsectog_psn said in Monitor:
LG CX .... beats any monitor, any day of the week, and twice on Sundays. Also gives you the game at 4k. I am hitting insane this year with my CX (I got it just before '21 dropped) and also made WS. I can see and read pitches like you wouldn't believe. .3ms response time, and as low as 5.9ms input lag (1080p), 6.9ms at 4k@120 or 13.9 at 4k@60. I got the 65-inch and it allows for being able to see both incredible vertical and lateral movement of pitches...which makes it very easy to figure out the pitch. My batting average is up over 50 points from last year in RS. I am hitting over .400 with multiple players. It is not only the CX (I had a bad eye issue last year that impacted my vision and I finally figured out hitting overall), yet the CX does help.
Come on now, it is a nice T.V. but you went way too far and talking out of your [censored] saying it beats any monitor.
I'm strictly a console gamer using a T.V and have for over 30 years and that made me laugh.
Consoles are limited to 120hz....so the 240hz and 360hz montors for PC gamers ....aren't going to do much/add for a console game. Also, the 240 and 360hz monitors only achieve their fastest specs at the highest refresh rate. If the gaming monitors can't operate at 240hz or 360hz their response time and input lags go up.
However, I'll clarify/correct my response. For gaming on an Xbox Series X or PS5....the CX is better than a gaming monitor because you can .....
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Actually see the game being played
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You get 4k and also HDR (not currently available on most gaming monitors)
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You get a TV that can also be used for other purposes, other than just for gaming
So, overall ...for console gaming...a CX is better than a gaming monitor, especially for us older players who have families and actually want to be able to see the game. When the Xbox Series XI comes out and it supports HDMI 3.1 or 4.1 .... and does 8k @ 120, 8k @240 or 8k@360 ...then a gaming monitor might give one an advantage....but by then I'll just upgrade my CX.
Nope
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@tvsectog_psn said in Monitor:
Consoles are limited to 120hz....so the 240hz and 360hz montors for PC gamers ..
For this game anything over 60 is useless. That is why your TV is only 13.6ms Input Lag. Which is great. Hopefully by next year they give us performance mode.
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@wargazsem-_mlbts said in Monitor:
4k @ 120Hz
6.7 ms
1080p with Variable Refresh Rate
5.9 ms
1440p with VRR
6.2 ms"
4k @ 120Hz
6.7 ms
1080p with Variable Refresh Rate
5.9 ms
1440p with VRR
6.2 ms"
I was so hoping SDS would implement the Microsoft 120fps @ 4k patch in '21, yet no dice. I so wanted to run the CX at 4k@120 with the .3ms response time and 6.7ms input lag. Especially..... since I know it is possible in the game to run at 120hz....it is just being prevented, currently.
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@wargazsem-_mlbts said in Monitor:
@tvsectog_psn said in Monitor:
@wargazsem-_mlbts said in Monitor:
@tvsectog_psn said in Monitor:
LG CX .... beats any monitor, any day of the week, and twice on Sundays. Also gives you the game at 4k. I am hitting insane this year with my CX (I got it just before '21 dropped) and also made WS. I can see and read pitches like you wouldn't believe. .3ms response time, and as low as 5.9ms input lag (1080p), 6.9ms at 4k@120 or 13.9 at 4k@60. I got the 65-inch and it allows for being able to see both incredible vertical and lateral movement of pitches...which makes it very easy to figure out the pitch. My batting average is up over 50 points from last year in RS. I am hitting over .400 with multiple players. It is not only the CX (I had a bad eye issue last year that impacted my vision and I finally figured out hitting overall), yet the CX does help.
Come on now, it is a nice T.V. but you went way too far and talking out of your [censored] saying it beats any monitor.
I'm strictly a console gamer using a T.V and have for over 30 years and that made me laugh.
Consoles are limited to 120hz....so the 240hz and 360hz montors for PC gamers ....aren't going to do much/add for a console game. Also, the 240 and 360hz monitors only achieve their fastest specs at the highest refresh rate. If the gaming monitors can't operate at 240hz or 360hz their response time and input lags go up.
However, I'll clarify/correct my response. For gaming on an Xbox Series X or PS5....the CX is better than a gaming monitor because you can .....
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Actually see the game being played
-
You get 4k and also HDR (not currently available on most gaming monitors)
-
You get a TV that can also be used for other purposes, other than just for gaming
So, overall ...for console gaming...a CX is better than a gaming monitor, especially for us older players who have families and actually want to be able to see the game. When the Xbox Series XI comes out and it supports HDMI 3.1 or 4.1 .... and does 8k @ 120, 8k @240 or 8k@360 ...then a gaming monitor might give one an advantage....but by then I'll just upgrade my CX.
Nope
Why are you guys arguing over something that is subjective? lol, he is right given the reasons he did. HDR, viewing size, more viewing options, all better on a TV. Input lag, slightly better on a monitor. You guys are both right but arguing different things.
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@chuckclc_psn said in Monitor:
@wargazsem-_mlbts said in Monitor:
@tvsectog_psn said in Monitor:
@wargazsem-_mlbts said in Monitor:
@tvsectog_psn said in Monitor:
LG CX .... beats any monitor, any day of the week, and twice on Sundays. Also gives you the game at 4k. I am hitting insane this year with my CX (I got it just before '21 dropped) and also made WS. I can see and read pitches like you wouldn't believe. .3ms response time, and as low as 5.9ms input lag (1080p), 6.9ms at 4k@120 or 13.9 at 4k@60. I got the 65-inch and it allows for being able to see both incredible vertical and lateral movement of pitches...which makes it very easy to figure out the pitch. My batting average is up over 50 points from last year in RS. I am hitting over .400 with multiple players. It is not only the CX (I had a bad eye issue last year that impacted my vision and I finally figured out hitting overall), yet the CX does help.
Come on now, it is a nice T.V. but you went way too far and talking out of your [censored] saying it beats any monitor.
I'm strictly a console gamer using a T.V and have for over 30 years and that made me laugh.
Consoles are limited to 120hz....so the 240hz and 360hz montors for PC gamers ....aren't going to do much/add for a console game. Also, the 240 and 360hz monitors only achieve their fastest specs at the highest refresh rate. If the gaming monitors can't operate at 240hz or 360hz their response time and input lags go up.
However, I'll clarify/correct my response. For gaming on an Xbox Series X or PS5....the CX is better than a gaming monitor because you can .....
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Actually see the game being played
-
You get 4k and also HDR (not currently available on most gaming monitors)
-
You get a TV that can also be used for other purposes, other than just for gaming
So, overall ...for console gaming...a CX is better than a gaming monitor, especially for us older players who have families and actually want to be able to see the game. When the Xbox Series XI comes out and it supports HDMI 3.1 or 4.1 .... and does 8k @ 120, 8k @240 or 8k@360 ...then a gaming monitor might give one an advantage....but by then I'll just upgrade my CX.
Nope
Why are you guys arguing over something that is subjective? lol, he is right given the reasons he did. HDR, viewing size, more viewing options, all better on a TV. Input lag, slightly better on a monitor. You guys are both right but arguing different things.
It isn't subjective when someone makes a false statement.
That T.V is nice but it is not the best, for example...Samsung Q80T is better in that area per rtings.com
1080p @ 60Hz
10.1 ms
1080p @ 60Hz Outside Game Mode
79.5 ms
1440p @ 60Hz
9.8 ms
4k @ 60Hz
9.8 ms
4k @ 60Hz + 10-Bit HDR
9.7 ms
4k @ 60Hz @ 4:4:4
9.9 ms
4k @ 60Hz Outside Game Mode
66.4 ms
4k @ 60Hz With Interpolation
22.0 ms
8k @ 60Hz
N/A
1080p @ 120Hz
5.4 ms
1440p @ 120Hz
5.3 ms
4k @ 120Hz
5.8 ms
1080p with Variable Refresh Rate
6.4 ms
1440p with VRR
7.2 ms
4k with VRR
7.1 ms
8k with VRR
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@wargazsem-_mlbts said in Monitor:
@chuckclc_psn said in Monitor:
@wargazsem-_mlbts said in Monitor:
@tvsectog_psn said in Monitor:
@wargazsem-_mlbts said in Monitor:
@tvsectog_psn said in Monitor:
LG CX .... beats any monitor, any day of the week, and twice on Sundays. Also gives you the game at 4k. I am hitting insane this year with my CX (I got it just before '21 dropped) and also made WS. I can see and read pitches like you wouldn't believe. .3ms response time, and as low as 5.9ms input lag (1080p), 6.9ms at 4k@120 or 13.9 at 4k@60. I got the 65-inch and it allows for being able to see both incredible vertical and lateral movement of pitches...which makes it very easy to figure out the pitch. My batting average is up over 50 points from last year in RS. I am hitting over .400 with multiple players. It is not only the CX (I had a bad eye issue last year that impacted my vision and I finally figured out hitting overall), yet the CX does help.
Come on now, it is a nice T.V. but you went way too far and talking out of your [censored] saying it beats any monitor.
I'm strictly a console gamer using a T.V and have for over 30 years and that made me laugh.
Consoles are limited to 120hz....so the 240hz and 360hz montors for PC gamers ....aren't going to do much/add for a console game. Also, the 240 and 360hz monitors only achieve their fastest specs at the highest refresh rate. If the gaming monitors can't operate at 240hz or 360hz their response time and input lags go up.
However, I'll clarify/correct my response. For gaming on an Xbox Series X or PS5....the CX is better than a gaming monitor because you can .....
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Actually see the game being played
-
You get 4k and also HDR (not currently available on most gaming monitors)
-
You get a TV that can also be used for other purposes, other than just for gaming
So, overall ...for console gaming...a CX is better than a gaming monitor, especially for us older players who have families and actually want to be able to see the game. When the Xbox Series XI comes out and it supports HDMI 3.1 or 4.1 .... and does 8k @ 120, 8k @240 or 8k@360 ...then a gaming monitor might give one an advantage....but by then I'll just upgrade my CX.
Nope
Why are you guys arguing over something that is subjective? lol, he is right given the reasons he did. HDR, viewing size, more viewing options, all better on a TV. Input lag, slightly better on a monitor. You guys are both right but arguing different things.
It isn't subjective when someone makes a false statement.
That T.V is nice but it is not the best, for example...Samsung Q80T is better in that area per rtings.com
1080p @ 60Hz
10.1 ms
1080p @ 60Hz Outside Game Mode
79.5 ms
1440p @ 60Hz
9.8 ms
4k @ 60Hz
9.8 ms
4k @ 60Hz + 10-Bit HDR
9.7 ms
4k @ 60Hz @ 4:4:4
9.9 ms
4k @ 60Hz Outside Game Mode
66.4 ms
4k @ 60Hz With Interpolation
22.0 ms
8k @ 60Hz
N/A
1080p @ 120Hz
5.4 ms
1440p @ 120Hz
5.3 ms
4k @ 120Hz
5.8 ms
1080p with Variable Refresh Rate
6.4 ms
1440p with VRR
7.2 ms
4k with VRR
7.1 ms
8k with VRR
N/AI just meant you are only arguing Input Lag and he is arguing other stuff. He is taking the panel as a whole and using all the features and you are zoned in on one thing. Like I said, not wrong, but I can see his side as well. BTW those QLED Samsung's are great.
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@chuckclc_psn said in Monitor:
@wargazsem-_mlbts said in Monitor:
@chuckclc_psn said in Monitor:
@wargazsem-_mlbts said in Monitor:
@tvsectog_psn said in Monitor:
@wargazsem-_mlbts said in Monitor:
@tvsectog_psn said in Monitor:
LG CX .... beats any monitor, any day of the week, and twice on Sundays. Also gives you the game at 4k. I am hitting insane this year with my CX (I got it just before '21 dropped) and also made WS. I can see and read pitches like you wouldn't believe. .3ms response time, and as low as 5.9ms input lag (1080p), 6.9ms at 4k@120 or 13.9 at 4k@60. I got the 65-inch and it allows for being able to see both incredible vertical and lateral movement of pitches...which makes it very easy to figure out the pitch. My batting average is up over 50 points from last year in RS. I am hitting over .400 with multiple players. It is not only the CX (I had a bad eye issue last year that impacted my vision and I finally figured out hitting overall), yet the CX does help.
Come on now, it is a nice T.V. but you went way too far and talking out of your [censored] saying it beats any monitor.
I'm strictly a console gamer using a T.V and have for over 30 years and that made me laugh.
Consoles are limited to 120hz....so the 240hz and 360hz montors for PC gamers ....aren't going to do much/add for a console game. Also, the 240 and 360hz monitors only achieve their fastest specs at the highest refresh rate. If the gaming monitors can't operate at 240hz or 360hz their response time and input lags go up.
However, I'll clarify/correct my response. For gaming on an Xbox Series X or PS5....the CX is better than a gaming monitor because you can .....
-
Actually see the game being played
-
You get 4k and also HDR (not currently available on most gaming monitors)
-
You get a TV that can also be used for other purposes, other than just for gaming
So, overall ...for console gaming...a CX is better than a gaming monitor, especially for us older players who have families and actually want to be able to see the game. When the Xbox Series XI comes out and it supports HDMI 3.1 or 4.1 .... and does 8k @ 120, 8k @240 or 8k@360 ...then a gaming monitor might give one an advantage....but by then I'll just upgrade my CX.
Nope
Why are you guys arguing over something that is subjective? lol, he is right given the reasons he did. HDR, viewing size, more viewing options, all better on a TV. Input lag, slightly better on a monitor. You guys are both right but arguing different things.
It isn't subjective when someone makes a false statement.
That T.V is nice but it is not the best, for example...Samsung Q80T is better in that area per rtings.com
1080p @ 60Hz
10.1 ms
1080p @ 60Hz Outside Game Mode
79.5 ms
1440p @ 60Hz
9.8 ms
4k @ 60Hz
9.8 ms
4k @ 60Hz + 10-Bit HDR
9.7 ms
4k @ 60Hz @ 4:4:4
9.9 ms
4k @ 60Hz Outside Game Mode
66.4 ms
4k @ 60Hz With Interpolation
22.0 ms
8k @ 60Hz
N/A
1080p @ 120Hz
5.4 ms
1440p @ 120Hz
5.3 ms
4k @ 120Hz
5.8 ms
1080p with Variable Refresh Rate
6.4 ms
1440p with VRR
7.2 ms
4k with VRR
7.1 ms
8k with VRR
N/AI just meant you are only arguing Input Lag and he is arguing other stuff. He is taking the panel as a whole and using all the features and you are zoned in on one thing. Like I said, not wrong, but I can see his side as well. BTW those QLED Samsung's are great.
I use the PS5 on the Samsung Q90T and have the LG C9 in the living room. I would recommend them both.
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