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If you had to choose right now RTTS 2020 or RTTS 2021?

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  • LONNE GUNN MANN_XBLL Offline
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    I'm moving and have to choose between my Xbox or PS4 for 4 months. Xbox has MLB The Show 2021 and the PS4 has MLB The Show 2020. With the problems right now in 2021 I'm leaning towards the PS4.

    Simple reason is I only play RTTS. It's all that I'm interested in. I don't really care for the changes in 2021 to RTTS as well. Wonder if I'm the only one that thinks this way?

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  • TheFalconKnee_PSNT Offline
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    Yeah if you're gonna play only RTTS, just play MLB 20

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  • Rathanian_PSNR Offline
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    I’ve gotten used to 21, but 20 was better overall. If you want RTTs go with the ps4

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  • Red_Ted_is_back_PSNR Offline
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    You'll be hard pressed to find somebody who has played both to recommend 21's RTTS over 20's. Personally I've only played less than 2 hours of RTTS 21 after putting in hundreds of hours in each of 19 and 20 (and hundreds prior to 16) so I haven't played enough of 21 to recommend it. But I guess that speaks volumes about my experience with 21.

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  • M Offline
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    I'm staying with 20. Better gameplay (at least right now), more realistic, more customizable, more immersive....more fun.

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  • Ben did it_XBLB Offline
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    20, easily, because 21 has absolutely zero depth to it. It's not an RPG anymore, it's more like COD with loadouts instead of a character you develop.

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  • SullySull08_PSNS Offline
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    I love 21. I think the archetype idea is great. I also like the max 50 so u can’t just make an absolute GOD. Only problem is that I have been sitting in the minors for so long. I play a lot (like 25ish minutes a day) and hope to get my guy to the Bigs soon. I honestly prefer 21 better

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    @sullysull08_psn said in If you had to choose right now RTTS 2020 or RTTS 2021?:

    I love 21. I think the archetype idea is great. I also like the max 50 so u can’t just make an absolute GOD. Only problem is that I have been sitting in the minors for so long. I play a lot (like 25ish minutes a day) and hope to get my guy to the Bigs soon. I honestly prefer 21 better

    Are you joking or serious?

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  • Rathanian_PSNR Offline
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    Honestly 21 isn’t terrible with the load outs, but I agree with the statement someone made that it here really isn’t a RPG element. Not that there was ever a huge one.

    Ways to make it better would be to, if they are bent on the load out system, add some RPG elements.

    Let me be able to contact my agent throughout the season to be able to demand a trade or complain about something

    Let me, on off days, go talk to the manager about pulling me in the 8th inning while pitching a shutout just because the infielder made an error and a guy got on base late. Or ask for a position change, etc

    Have there be a variety of agents that I can hire. Each with skills that hep with negotiations or trades etc

    Bring back the showcase where your play determines you’re draft position. And let it be possible to go in the first round if you do well

    Have money matter. Let me spend my money I earn on off-season programs that can earn progress in an archetype. Maybe like a million per point so moving an archetype from 0-100 would cost 100 mil. Or something to make it more than a cosmetic feature

    All or any of those would make it more realistic and immersive

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  • LONNE GUNN MANN_XBLL Offline
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    @rathanian_psn said in If you had to choose right now RTTS 2020 or RTTS 2021?:

    Honestly 21 isn’t terrible with the load outs, but I agree with the statement someone made that it here really isn’t a RPG element. Not that there was ever a huge one.

    Ways to make it better would be to, if they are bent on the load out system, add some RPG elements.

    Let me be able to contact my agent throughout the season to be able to demand a trade or complain about something

    Let me, on off days, go talk to the manager about pulling me in the 8th inning while pitching a shutout just because the infielder made an error and a guy got on base late. Or ask for a position change, etc

    Have there be a variety of agents that I can hire. Each with skills that hep with negotiations or trades etc

    Bring back the showcase where your play determines you’re draft position. And let it be possible to go in the first round if you do well

    Have money matter. Let me spend my money I earn on off-season programs that can earn progress in an archetype. Maybe like a million per point so moving an archetype from 0-100 would cost 100 mil. Or something to make it more than a cosmetic feature

    All or any of those would make it more realistic and immersive

    He's got some really good ideas IMO. Dang I didn't realize they cut you off at 50 on the progression?

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  • theBlindRhino_PSNT Offline
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    Don’t know. I never play RTTS.

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  • M-A47_PSNM Offline
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    Well... I surely hope someone at SDS (@collin_sds_MLBTS @Victor_SDS_PSN ) will read this... Basically, 90% of players are suggesting RTTS20 is better than 21...

    I totally agree with you btw. They should have took RTTS20 and add more RPG/immersion elements... With the loadouts, the 1 Ballplayer only and all the bugs, they really messed up!

    I hope they will update us on the future plan of this game mode... If it stays like it is right now, I guess I'll keep playing RTTS20 for a few years!

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  • coachlyda12_PSNC Offline
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    The only thing they change was the load outs and got rid of some the better parts of the game. The teo way player [censored] was a waste of time. The same ole crappy commentary( Is the catcher from the Cubs really that young now) they just ripped out some of the popular parts to feed the DD cash cow and basically made the RTTS players eat a [censored] sandwich to be able to still play...20 wasn’t perfect but it was better than this [censored]

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  • Ben did it_XBLB Offline
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    Honestly, the worst thing about the whole thing is that you only get one player and your stats carry over to new saves. It completely kills the mode, there is no longer any reason to have multiple saves, your character isn't a character he's just a COD style set of loadouts. They've ruined the journey element and taken all personality away from your player.

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  • M-A47_PSNM Offline
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    @ben-did-it_xbl said in If you had to choose right now RTTS 2020 or RTTS 2021?:

    Honestly, the worst thing about the whole thing is that you only get one player and your stats carry over to new saves. It completely kills the mode, there is no longer any reason to have multiple saves, your character isn't a character he's just a COD style set of loadouts. They've ruined the journey element and taken all personality away from your player.

    Truth has been spoken... Couldn't have said better. No personality, no replay value, just a one and done grind thing... It's sad...

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  • BuddyHightower_XBLB Offline
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    As a first time xbox player.... 20
    RTTS should be a stand alone offline player based career experience.
    MTO is a 1 season offline experience.
    Franchise is a multi-season offline experience.
    Just keep all this separate from DD.

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  • SGMRock_XBLS Offline
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    I don’t like the 2 way player thing being forced like it is. You should have the option to only pitch or only play positions with an actual secondary position. Also the 2 way player doesn’t even make sense with the archetype system. How can I be a golden glove SS one game to being a SP in the next game that can’t even block a weak ground ball right past my feet. Or that same SS that hits .350 playing SP in NL game that can’t hit for nothing on games where he pitches.

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  • Remolian_PSNR Offline
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    Now that I've had some time with 21 I actually really like the changes. They need more of a gap then levels 30 - 50 for in game stat gains in my opinion but I do kinda like the card system. If nothing else it's different then any other sports game leveling system (that I've played). I do hate how when pitching, my Ballplayer loses his ability to hit. I also hate SDS desire to do a two way player career mode but won't quit it with their fatigue system. This is a real pain in the [censored] for players wanting to to play for NL teams as you have to take 1 in 5 days off which makes it very hard to get enough bats to be a league leader or qualify for awards which I know is all meaningless but this is suppost to be a career made. And most of all I hate how PS4 owners are being punished for not wanting to fork over $1200 to scalpers for a PS5 by hiding features from us. I know everyone like to praise SDS for how great they are but this is a scumbag move that would make EA proud. Besides that though, I like the changes.

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  • texaschick44_PSNT Offline
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    The game is ok. I like the idea of being a two way player but like the guy above me said if you go as a full time starter and hit in between you do not qualify for the hitting titles. Even if you have enough at bats. I also agree that we should have more control over our player. Let us talk to the manager when we want to let us choose our own agent. Let us decide when we need a rest not the computer. Let us qualify for both pitching and hitting titles. Add a story mode to it make it more about our rise to greatness if I am pitching I should not lose my hitting attributes. On days you pitch you should be able to choose both a pitching loadout and a hitting loadout.

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  • M-A47_PSNM Offline
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    @texaschick44_psn said in If you had to choose right now RTTS 2020 or RTTS 2021?:

    The game is ok. I like the idea of being a two way player but like the guy above me said if you go as a full time starter and hit in between you do not qualify for the hitting titles. Even if you have enough at bats. I also agree that we should have more control over our player. Let us talk to the manager when we want to let us choose our own agent. Let us decide when we need a rest not the computer. Let us qualify for both pitching and hitting titles. Add a story mode to it make it more about our rise to greatness if I am pitching I should not lose my hitting attributes. On days you pitch you should be able to choose both a pitching loadout and a hitting loadout.

    Loadouts are one of the top two things that kills any attempt at a realistic simulation experience. They should go and we should be able to build attributes based on what we're doing on the field. (Just like in the past)

    That way your past choice's influence your future progression and just like you said, if you're a two way player, you're not stuck with the problem of "forgetting how to hit" on days you pitch...

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