Rob Manfred
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Double header needs to go, as well as relief limit. I don’t mind the extra innings rule, speeds it up. No one enjoyed 14+ inning games, ruined the teams for weeks.
The real fix needs to be the defensive shifts, data doesn’t lie, it’s killing baseball. BABIP is in serious decline, fans like action, shifts offer no action. (I said this in a different post earlier)
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@savagesteve74 said in Rob Manfred:
Double header needs to go, as well as relief limit. I don’t mind the extra innings rule, speeds it up. No one enjoyed 14+ inning games, ruined the teams for weeks.
The real fix needs to be the defensive shifts, data doesn’t lie, it’s killing baseball. BABIP is in serious decline, fans like action, shifts offer no action. (I said this in a different post earlier)
Shifts are just putting players in positions to where the batter hits most often. The reason fielders have been aligned in their positions for over a century is because those are the spots on the field that allowed the defense to have the greatest opportunities to get outs. Taking away the shift is pointless. It would be like not allowing infielders to play in for the bunt, or to try to get the out at home.
The problem is the mentality against the shift, rather than the shift itself.
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I wonder if they even discussed how the rule would affect you playing a video game. I bet they didn’t. Selfish bastards.
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@dustydelap_psn said in Rob Manfred:
Can we please get rid of this joker now???!?!?
I've lost two games in extras due to the runner on second rule. That's req league softball [censored]!!!! Oh and why we're at it, might as well bring up the fact my relief pitcher either has to face all three batters or finish the inning. I hate this dude. He is ruining baseball. 7 inning double headers???? Wtf!!!!!!You’re blaming the wrong person. These are rules that were agreed upon by the players union and ownership through out of cycle collective bargaining. However Rob Manfred can go suck a big one. He’s the worst commish since Kenesaw Mountain Landis. When the owners and players meet after the season to renew their CBA they seriously need to consider voting that clown out of office as he has turned that office into some woke political arm of the federal government. Enough said!!!
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@savagesteve74 said in Rob Manfred:
Double header needs to go, as well as relief limit. I don’t mind the extra innings rule, speeds it up. No one enjoyed 14+ inning games, ruined the teams for weeks.
The real fix needs to be the defensive shifts, data doesn’t lie, it’s killing baseball. BABIP is in serious decline, fans like action, shifts offer no action. (I said this in a different post earlier)
I hate defensive shifts too, but until baseball becomes baseball again...we have to live with it. By that I mean, if pure baseball, which is bunting, moving runners, hitting to all fields, working counts and taking walks doesn't come back and we
are forced to watch the boring shift, striking out look on a hittable/foulable pitch waiting for the homerun style of baseball...the shift is here to stay. -
@stiebfan37_psn said in Rob Manfred:
@savagesteve74 said in Rob Manfred:
Double header needs to go, as well as relief limit. I don’t mind the extra innings rule, speeds it up. No one enjoyed 14+ inning games, ruined the teams for weeks.
The real fix needs to be the defensive shifts, data doesn’t lie, it’s killing baseball. BABIP is in serious decline, fans like action, shifts offer no action. (I said this in a different post earlier)
I hate defensive shifts too, but until baseball becomes baseball again...we have to live with it. By that I mean, if pure baseball, which is bunting, moving runners, hitting to all fields, working counts and taking walks doesn't come back and we
are forced to watch the boring shift, striking out look on a hittable/foulable pitch waiting for the homerun style of baseball...the shift is here to stay.I don’t see that coming back
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@sean_87__psn said in Rob Manfred:
@stiebfan37_psn said in Rob Manfred:
@savagesteve74 said in Rob Manfred:
Double header needs to go, as well as relief limit. I don’t mind the extra innings rule, speeds it up. No one enjoyed 14+ inning games, ruined the teams for weeks.
The real fix needs to be the defensive shifts, data doesn’t lie, it’s killing baseball. BABIP is in serious decline, fans like action, shifts offer no action. (I said this in a different post earlier)
I hate defensive shifts too, but until baseball becomes baseball again...we have to live with it. By that I mean, if pure baseball, which is bunting, moving runners, hitting to all fields, working counts and taking walks doesn't come back and we
are forced to watch the boring shift, striking out look on a hittable/foulable pitch waiting for the homerun style of baseball...the shift is here to stay.I don’t see that coming back
Neither do I, unfortunately, which is a shame as baseball was way more fun to watch back then. I was just lamenting, and looking back to the good old days lol
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@formallyforearms said in Rob Manfred:
@savagesteve74 said in Rob Manfred:
Double header needs to go, as well as relief limit. I don’t mind the extra innings rule, speeds it up. No one enjoyed 14+ inning games, ruined the teams for weeks.
The real fix needs to be the defensive shifts, data doesn’t lie, it’s killing baseball. BABIP is in serious decline, fans like action, shifts offer no action. (I said this in a different post earlier)
Shifts are just putting players in positions to where the batter hits most often. The reason fielders have been aligned in their positions for over a century is because those are the spots on the field that allowed the defense to have the greatest opportunities to get outs. Taking away the shift is pointless. It would be like not allowing infielders to play in for the bunt, or to try to get the out at home.
The problem is the mentality against the shift, rather than the shift itself.
100% agree. They didn't even attempt shifts back then because the hitter would've thought it was a joke, and just poked the ball to the side of the field which is basically empty for an easy base hit every time up. Hitters today are too HR happy and continue to try and pull the ball right into the shift.
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@savagesteve74 said in Rob Manfred:
Double header needs to go, as well as relief limit. I don’t mind the extra innings rule, speeds it up. No one enjoyed 14+ inning games, ruined the teams for weeks.
The real fix needs to be the defensive shifts, data doesn’t lie, it’s killing baseball. BABIP is in serious decline, fans like action, shifts offer no action. (I said this in a different post earlier)
They are testing it in one of the minor league levels this year where during shifts all infielders have to be on the infield dirt at the pitch. I like this one cause it doesnt fully take away the shift but eliminates the 2nd outfielder in right.
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@formallyforearms said in Rob Manfred:
@savagesteve74 said in Rob Manfred:
Double header needs to go, as well as relief limit. I don’t mind the extra innings rule, speeds it up. No one enjoyed 14+ inning games, ruined the teams for weeks.
The real fix needs to be the defensive shifts, data doesn’t lie, it’s killing baseball. BABIP is in serious decline, fans like action, shifts offer no action. (I said this in a different post earlier)
Shifts are just putting players in positions to where the batter hits most often. The reason fielders have been aligned in their positions for over a century is because those are the spots on the field that allowed the defense to have the greatest opportunities to get outs. Taking away the shift is pointless. It would be like not allowing infielders to play in for the bunt, or to try to get the out at home.
The problem is the mentality against the shift, rather than the shift itself.
I agree with this 100%!!
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@stiebfan37_psn said in Rob Manfred:
@savagesteve74 said in Rob Manfred:
Double header needs to go, as well as relief limit. I don’t mind the extra innings rule, speeds it up. No one enjoyed 14+ inning games, ruined the teams for weeks.
The real fix needs to be the defensive shifts, data doesn’t lie, it’s killing baseball. BABIP is in serious decline, fans like action, shifts offer no action. (I said this in a different post earlier)
I hate defensive shifts too, but until baseball becomes baseball again...we have to live with it. By that I mean, if pure baseball, which is bunting, moving runners, hitting to all fields, working counts and taking walks doesn't come back and we
are forced to watch the boring shift, striking out look on a hittable/foulable pitch waiting for the homerun style of baseball...the shift is here to stay.Same with the nba. Can't stand watching games anymore, both teams shooting 3 after 3, and getting free lanes to the basket because no one wants to vet dunked on. Shifts suck but it would be so easy just to bunt the ball to the ENTIRE other side of the field.
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@formallyforearms said in Rob Manfred:
@savagesteve74 said in Rob Manfred:
Double header needs to go, as well as relief limit. I don’t mind the extra innings rule, speeds it up. No one enjoyed 14+ inning games, ruined the teams for weeks.
The real fix needs to be the defensive shifts, data doesn’t lie, it’s killing baseball. BABIP is in serious decline, fans like action, shifts offer no action. (I said this in a different post earlier)
Shifts are just putting players in positions to where the batter hits most often. The reason fielders have been aligned in their positions for over a century is because those are the spots on the field that allowed the defense to have the greatest opportunities to get outs. Taking away the shift is pointless. It would be like not allowing infielders to play in for the bunt, or to try to get the out at home.
The problem is the mentality against the shift, rather than the shift itself.
Here is the difference and why I believe the shift needs to be restricted or banned all together
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Its an oxymoron. Asking players to take a traditional approach to the plate against a new age tactic when analytically its been proven that HR > Bunt singles all day so everyone just swings for the seats. Which is also why we see fewer hits and more Ks.
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Nearly everyone in the league throws 95+. In in the hands, you're not going to take that the other way purposefully every time, its extremely difficult to do with success.
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The biggest point, is a baseball team fields 9 hitters, every team at this point with the data present has a F***load of data and information on each and every hitter in the lineup. This is regardless of the pitcher on the mound, any defender on the field they all have the access to same info and can remember it with ease or refer to it on a card.
But the batter? You have 12 pitchers you need to account for on every series. What do they throw? What is their velo? How do their pitches break? What about their arm angle? Time of day? Hitters are at a complete disadvantage already because you can't ask every batter in your lineup to remember every bit of info on a pitcher they're facing. The best the get is advice from players who have faced them, and then some previews from previous outings.
Did I mention a lot of these dudes throw 95+? And more players than ever are tossing 100+?
Ban or restrict the shift. Make defense matter again.
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Not to mention he's a dirt bag that just cost a bunch of families alot of money at the most desperate of times by moving the all star game
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Can't stand the extra inning rule or 7 inning double headers. Those are little league rules.
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I’m definitely in the minority but I kind of like the extra inning rule. It actually adds back some strategy into the game.
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@sportpimpin_xbl said in Rob Manfred:
Not to mention he's a dirt bag that just cost a bunch of families alot of money at the most desperate of times by moving the all star game
either that or players were going to boycott and there wasnt going to be an all star game...
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@kylejaros88_psn said in Rob Manfred:
@sportpimpin_xbl said in Rob Manfred:
Not to mention he's a dirt bag that just cost a bunch of families alot of money at the most desperate of times by moving the all star game
either that or players were going to boycott and there wasnt going to be an all star game...
No one was boycotting and there would be no reason too all uneducated virtue signaling as usual
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@savagesteve74 said in Rob Manfred:
Double header needs to go, as well as relief limit. I don’t mind the extra innings rule, speeds it up. No one enjoyed 14+ inning games, ruined the teams for weeks.
The real fix needs to be the defensive shifts, data doesn’t lie, it’s killing baseball. BABIP is in serious decline, fans like action, shifts offer no action. (I said this in a different post earlier)
Bet they would go back to nine innings if they were required to reduce the price of a seven inning game ticket.
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according to the mlb players were already saying they would boycott. but i'm sure you know better because of fox news and ben shaprio lol
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Rob Manfred speaks for the owners... Full stop. He does their bidding. That is his job....
Nothing is his personal vendetta. He literally was hired to do that job.
The rules in place were agreed upon by the union. Don't blame him for it... Or that the game needs to modernize with viewership loss and struggles in smaller markets.
Robot umps, extra innings rules, etc.. these things would all be on the table regardless of who was the commissioner.Are you to tell me bud Selig was any better? Under his watch we had the biggest scandals probably ever in baseball and a work stoppage cancelling a full season of baseball in '94. First time ever in MLB.
