Roberto alomar
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Why not file the report 7 years ago when it supposedly happened? That should be one of the first questions answered before people condemn him.
its actually really common for sexual misconduct victims to not report initially or they report and it doesn't go anywhere. This doesnt mean action shouldn't be taken once its been looked into
It doesn’t look good either way. Why wait so long to say something unless you were motivated not to and now that motivation is gone. I don’t like these claims being made so far apart from the accused incident for obvious reasons.
doesnt matter what you like to be fair. Even after all this time MLB was able to find enough evidence that he did something wrong, thats all that matters really
I didn’t see what evidence they found. Can you send me a link to the evidence?
they didnt release the evidence publicly but in the commissioners statement he mentioned reviewing the evidence that the third party law firm collected during their investigation
So your ok with accusing someone without seeing the evidence first?
I'm okay with the MLB and a private law firm investigating and finding cause to proceed the way they did. If you need firsthand evidence in order for you to believe every single thing in life there must be a ton of [censored] that you dont believe in. btw the Earth isnt flat
So because I don’t share your views you assume I must be ignorant? Interesting.
I assume your ignorant based off of the ignorant things youve said. I couldnt give a [censored] about your personal views
Is it safe to say this is how you engage in every conversation with someone having a different view? Insult them because you don’t like what they think?
Listen man, you sound really offended over me just explaining something to you. you stated you need to see evidence yourself in order to believe it happened. Im only trying to explain to that thats not how the world works. the people whos job it is to make the decision has seen enough evidence to make a good business decision. If you needed to see evidence yourself for every single thing then you'd be spending a lot of your time questioning everything and doing massive amounts of experiments. Whether you believe something happened or not is irrelevant anyway. He's been banned from baseball, you wont see him in the show again. its that simple
Offended, no. Just wanted know how you acted when someone has a different view then you. You automatically attacked me on an intellectual level to start the conversation.
Actually i didn't bring up your intelligence at all until you accused me of calling you ignorant. which i hadn't. The entire time I was just explaining to you the situation. go back and read the posts bc I never attacked you once. but it is funny how you changed the direction of your argument
You didn’t accuse me of believing the earth was flat? Did I misread that?
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@sean_87__psn said in Roberto alomar:
Why not file the report 7 years ago when it supposedly happened? That should be one of the first questions answered before people condemn him.
its actually really common for sexual misconduct victims to not report initially or they report and it doesn't go anywhere. This doesnt mean action shouldn't be taken once its been looked into
It doesn’t look good either way. Why wait so long to say something unless you were motivated not to and now that motivation is gone. I don’t like these claims being made so far apart from the accused incident for obvious reasons.
doesnt matter what you like to be fair. Even after all this time MLB was able to find enough evidence that he did something wrong, thats all that matters really
I didn’t see what evidence they found. Can you send me a link to the evidence?
they didnt release the evidence publicly but in the commissioners statement he mentioned reviewing the evidence that the third party law firm collected during their investigation
So your ok with accusing someone without seeing the evidence first?
I'm okay with the MLB and a private law firm investigating and finding cause to proceed the way they did. If you need firsthand evidence in order for you to believe every single thing in life there must be a ton of [censored] that you dont believe in. btw the Earth isnt flat
So because I don’t share your views you assume I must be ignorant? Interesting.
I assume your ignorant based off of the ignorant things youve said. I couldnt give a [censored] about your personal views
Is it safe to say this is how you engage in every conversation with someone having a different view? Insult them because you don’t like what they think?
Listen man, you sound really offended over me just explaining something to you. you stated you need to see evidence yourself in order to believe it happened. Im only trying to explain to that thats not how the world works. the people whos job it is to make the decision has seen enough evidence to make a good business decision. If you needed to see evidence yourself for every single thing then you'd be spending a lot of your time questioning everything and doing massive amounts of experiments. Whether you believe something happened or not is irrelevant anyway. He's been banned from baseball, you wont see him in the show again. its that simple
Offended, no. Just wanted know how you acted when someone has a different view then you. You automatically attacked me on an intellectual level to start the conversation.
Actually i didn't bring up your intelligence at all until you accused me of calling you ignorant. which i hadn't. The entire time I was just explaining to you the situation. go back and read the posts bc I never attacked you once. but it is funny how you changed the direction of your argument
You didn’t accuse me of believing the earth was flat? Did I misread that?
I said "btw the earth isnt flat" as a joke in reference to the sentence that preceded. I apologize if that joke offended you this deeply but in all fairness I was only using your own logic
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The earth isn't flat??
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@sean_87__psn said in Roberto alomar:
Why not file the report 7 years ago when it supposedly happened? That should be one of the first questions answered before people condemn him.
its actually really common for sexual misconduct victims to not report initially or they report and it doesn't go anywhere. This doesnt mean action shouldn't be taken once its been looked into
It doesn’t look good either way. Why wait so long to say something unless you were motivated not to and now that motivation is gone. I don’t like these claims being made so far apart from the accused incident for obvious reasons.
doesnt matter what you like to be fair. Even after all this time MLB was able to find enough evidence that he did something wrong, thats all that matters really
I didn’t see what evidence they found. Can you send me a link to the evidence?
they didnt release the evidence publicly but in the commissioners statement he mentioned reviewing the evidence that the third party law firm collected during their investigation
So your ok with accusing someone without seeing the evidence first?
I'm okay with the MLB and a private law firm investigating and finding cause to proceed the way they did. If you need firsthand evidence in order for you to believe every single thing in life there must be a ton of [censored] that you dont believe in. btw the Earth isnt flat
Btw, it’s on TV so it must be true! Surely the media wouldn’t twist the facts to support a narrative......they wouldn’t do that right??? MLB is the same organization that thinks asking for identification to vote is racist!! So much so they relocated the freaking all star game!! So yeah, I wanna see the facts before there’s judgement!!
Found someone who stormed the capital.
As above poster said, you're not going to see the evidence in most likelihood. If you think the MLB did anything short of it's due diligence on this to confirm there's validity to the accusations, you're nuts.
Chew on this: you've denied these claims more vehemently than Robbie and his legal team has. The fact his legal team is pretty subdued on this you get the impression they'd rather keep the lid on this.
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What about Deahawn Watson? Did EA delete him as well to appease the basement dwellers that post demands such as this one?
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MLB might push for the card to be removed from.the game.
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@king-cals_xbl said in Roberto alomar:
Moral of the story: don’t touch girls that don’t wanna be touched. No girl wants me to touch them, and you don’t see my prude self with a lawsuit. Take notes alomar
I think it should be noted that it's been referenced as sexual misconduct rather than assault. It may have been a situation where he continually harassed a colleague, and by the sounds of it, did things we all know cross the line.
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@loshbomb_psn said in Roberto alomar:
What about Deahawn Watson? Did EA delete him as well to appease the basement dwellers that post demands such as this one?
That says more about the NFL and the standards they have for off-field conduct than anything.
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Alomar's plaque will remain on display in Cooperstown, the institution said in a statement on Friday.
'The National Baseball Hall of Fame was shocked and saddened to learn of the news being shared today about Roberto Alomar,' the Hall said in a statement.
'When he was elected to the Hall of Fame by the Baseball Writers' Association of America in the Class of 2011, Alomar was an eligible candidate in good standing. His plaque will remain on display in the Hall of Fame in recognition of his accomplishments in the game, and his enshrinement reflects his eligibility and the perspective of the BBWAA voters at that time.'
That could technically be enough to allow his card to remain in the game, but SDS and MLB probably won’t want to be associated with him going forward.
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@loshbomb_psn said in Roberto alomar:
What about Deahawn Watson? Did EA delete him as well to appease the basement dwellers that post demands such as this one?
Did the NFL ban him? no. different scenario altogether
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What happens if no conviction comes from these allegations?
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@onnagood1_psn said in Roberto alomar:
What happens if no conviction comes from these allegations?
nothing changes. hes still banned from baseball
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@sean_87__psn said in Roberto alomar:
Why not file the report 7 years ago when it supposedly happened? That should be one of the first questions answered before people condemn him.
its actually really common for sexual misconduct victims to not report initially or they report and it doesn't go anywhere. This doesnt mean action shouldn't be taken once its been looked into
It doesn’t look good either way. Why wait so long to say something unless you were motivated not to and now that motivation is gone. I don’t like these claims being made so far apart from the accused incident for obvious reasons.
doesnt matter what you like to be fair. Even after all this time MLB was able to find enough evidence that he did something wrong, thats all that matters really
I didn’t see what evidence they found. Can you send me a link to the evidence?
they didnt release the evidence publicly but in the commissioners statement he mentioned reviewing the evidence that the third party law firm collected during their investigation
So your ok with accusing someone without seeing the evidence first?
I'm okay with the MLB and a private law firm investigating and finding cause to proceed the way they did. If you need firsthand evidence in order for you to believe every single thing in life there must be a ton of [censored] that you dont believe in. btw the Earth isnt flat
Btw, it’s on TV so it must be true! Surely the media wouldn’t twist the facts to support a narrative......they wouldn’t do that right??? MLB is the same organization that thinks asking for identification to vote is racist!! So much so they relocated the freaking all star game!! So yeah, I wanna see the facts before there’s judgement!!
Found someone who stormed the capital.
As above poster said, you're not going to see the evidence in most likelihood. If you think the MLB did anything short of it's due diligence on this to confirm there's validity to the accusations, you're nuts.
Chew on this: you've denied these claims more vehemently than Robbie and his legal team has. The fact his legal team is pretty subdued on this you get the impression they'd rather keep the lid on this.
If you look back, I didn’t deny anything. All I’ve asked for are facts.....not public opinion. In fact I think I said “time will tell”.
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@sean_87__psn said in Roberto alomar:
Why not file the report 7 years ago when it supposedly happened? That should be one of the first questions answered before people condemn him.
its actually really common for sexual misconduct victims to not report initially or they report and it doesn't go anywhere. This doesnt mean action shouldn't be taken once its been looked into
It doesn’t look good either way. Why wait so long to say something unless you were motivated not to and now that motivation is gone. I don’t like these claims being made so far apart from the accused incident for obvious reasons.
doesnt matter what you like to be fair. Even after all this time MLB was able to find enough evidence that he did something wrong, thats all that matters really
I didn’t see what evidence they found. Can you send me a link to the evidence?
they didnt release the evidence publicly but in the commissioners statement he mentioned reviewing the evidence that the third party law firm collected during their investigation
So your ok with accusing someone without seeing the evidence first?
I'm okay with the MLB and a private law firm investigating and finding cause to proceed the way they did. If you need firsthand evidence in order for you to believe every single thing in life there must be a ton of [censored] that you dont believe in. btw the Earth isnt flat
Btw, it’s on TV so it must be true! Surely the media wouldn’t twist the facts to support a narrative......they wouldn’t do that right??? MLB is the same organization that thinks asking for identification to vote is racist!! So much so they relocated the freaking all star game!! So yeah, I wanna see the facts before there’s judgement!!
Found someone who stormed the capital.
As above poster said, you're not going to see the evidence in most likelihood. If you think the MLB did anything short of it's due diligence on this to confirm there's validity to the accusations, you're nuts.
Chew on this: you've denied these claims more vehemently than Robbie and his legal team has. The fact his legal team is pretty subdued on this you get the impression they'd rather keep the lid on this.
If you look back, I didn’t deny anything. All I’ve asked for are facts.....not public opinion. In fact I think I said “time will tell”.
this isnt a matter of public opinion though. MLB made this decision based off their investigation. it wasnt like this was a hot topic in the news and people called for MLB to ban him. No the woman reported the issue and they investigated rather quietly. literally nothing to do with public opinion.
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I can say that rumors existed in Toronto (possibly beyond) well before 2014 regarding Alomar and inappropriate sexual conduct. Rumors aside, he has a demonstrable track record of poor conduct on and off the field.
I don't think anyone should be surprised here... Alomar definitely never was billed to be a good person, just a good ballplayer.
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I guess it's beyond a rumor in the courts. The rumors in Toronto were he was HIV positive and wasn't disclosing it to partners.
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@duiaintez_psn said in Roberto alomar:
I guess it's beyond a rumor in the courts. The rumors in Toronto were he was HIV positive and wasn't disclosing it to partners.
And that he hit his estranged wife. 2008 I believe
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@nanthrax_1_psn said in Roberto alomar:
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I guess it's beyond a rumor in the courts. The rumors in Toronto were he was HIV positive and wasn't disclosing it to partners.
And that he hit his estranged wife. 2008 I believe
and spit in an umpires face during his playing days
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@ny_giants4_life said in Roberto alomar:
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@duiaintez_psn said in Roberto alomar:
I guess it's beyond a rumor in the courts. The rumors in Toronto were he was HIV positive and wasn't disclosing it to partners.
And that he hit his estranged wife. 2008 I believe
and spit in an umpires face during his playing days
That was the day I stopped being a fan of his. But hardly the same thing as the other 2...
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@nanthrax_1_psn said in Roberto alomar:
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@duiaintez_psn said in Roberto alomar:
I guess it's beyond a rumor in the courts. The rumors in Toronto were he was HIV positive and wasn't disclosing it to partners.
And that he hit his estranged wife. 2008 I believe
and spit in an umpires face during his playing days
That was the day I stopped being a fan of his. But hardly the same thing as the other 2...
oh yea not saying its the same. he just has a track record of being a garbage human being
