Thank god 21 won’t let check swings bail people out as often
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@vipersneak_psn said in Thank god 21 won’t let check swings bail people out as often:
@a_perfectgame said in Thank god 21 won’t let check swings bail people out as often:
@gradekthebard said in Thank god 21 won’t let check swings bail people out as often:
@a_perfectgame said in Thank god 21 won’t let check swings bail people out as often:
@gradekthebard said in Thank god 21 won’t let check swings bail people out as often:
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@mr7brown_xbl said in Thank god 21 won’t let check swings bail people out as often:
@a_perfectgame said in Thank god 21 won’t let check swings bail people out as often:
@mr7brown_xbl said in Thank god 21 won’t let check swings bail people out as often:
@a_perfectgame said in Thank god 21 won’t let check swings bail people out as often:
@mr7brown_xbl said in Thank god 21 won’t let check swings bail people out as often:
I'd just rather they fix the super sink sinker on outlier sinkers at the top of the zone.
Over check swings?! No way. The high sinkers is not unhittable - it’s OP but it’s not unhittable. The check swing is game breaking
Nah, check swings happen. Sinkers sinking at 100 above the zone into the zone do not.
Check swings do not happen 65 x in 1 game at an 85% success rate.
Maybe you should pitch in the zone more? I have never seen 65 check swings in a game. However, there is a possibility it could happen in real life no matter how probable it would be. As far as physics, a sinker would not be able to move in such a manner thrown that way.
pitch in the zone more?? get real. if I have you off balance checkswinging all day I'll continue to throw balls. you guys are in for a rude awakening when 21 drops. 10-15 Ks a game.
Let’s be clear, if people are striking out 15x a game on all star in early 21, SDS will patch it very quickly. No matter what the sweaty’s want, SDS is a for profit business and will adjust the game towards “fun” for the average player.
In competitive mode? Doubtful. Competitive mode is for the sweaty’s.
Competitive mode is h2h, which most DD players use. If all star metrics (events/low ranked/etc) aren’t “fun” those players leave, which is bad for SDS. Just like how they made the button accuracy easier based on data from the beta in 20, they will adjust check swings, timing windows, pitch speeds, etc to ensure their average customer has an enjoyable experience.
I think you are wrong. They clearly said they are trying to focus on the user being in control of as much input in the game as possible which means they are moving away from RNG. They’ve been mentioning this a lot. User user user. You can’t go user user user then when a few users fail go back to giving them a crutch.
They’ve openly stated that is what casual mode and custom practice is for to improve for when you play in competitive.
Obviously they’ve been getting a lot of complaints from people. Look at the Twitter feeds and Facebook posts. It’s tons of people just saying the game is random. Most people don’t want that at all levels
I love how in a video baseball game RNG is a bad word. As if you have a little bat and are really up at the plate and want your swings to matter. It's a joystick man. He is right, if people jump ship because you asked for more joystick action that helps you win more, they will change it back. 100% They are here for profit, not to help you feel better about yourself and your joystick skillzzz.
People won’t jump ship - people will practice and do better. the beta played 1000x better then 20 did for a reason. Because it was more focused on the user.
You are using a joystick yes. And most ppl are noticing that inputs on the joystick do not make sense. That will have more of a draw to people leaving then striking out on their own accord because they can improve and then NOT STRIKE OUT. But if the game play is random there is no way to have any control of the gameplay. That’s not a video game that’s a baseball sim. You don’t want to play a game you want to watch a game
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@vipersneak_psn said in Thank god 21 won’t let check swings bail people out as often:
@ikasnu_psn said in Thank god 21 won’t let check swings bail people out as often:
@vipersneak_psn said in Thank god 21 won’t let check swings bail people out as often:
@ikasnu_psn said in Thank god 21 won’t let check swings bail people out as often:
@vipersneak_psn said in Thank god 21 won’t let check swings bail people out as often:
@ikasnu_psn said in Thank god 21 won’t let check swings bail people out as often:
@vipersneak_psn said in Thank god 21 won’t let check swings bail people out as often:
I lost because of check swings! Get rid of it! LoL. Did you know you can check swing too and that check swings are part of baseball?
When have you ever seen a team check swing 30 times in a game and have roughly 25 of those go in their favor?
Again, now you want realism? That is what I have been asking for, but you guys want user input only. It just the user input you are good at, perhaps?
Realism is impossible, I was using that as an example since it doesn't showcase user input nor realism. Its an exploit through and through and unintended design from the discipline attribute. All check swings should be 50/50, not 90/10.
So you want realism while claiming it is impossible. It is not impossible for many aspects of the game to be realistic. Just like your example of 90/10 vs 50/50. Regardless of whether it was an unintended effect, you want it to be more realistic.
Balance. I want balance or for it to be removed entirely.
Obviously, because you think it will help you win more often. That is what most people on here are saying. I want it so I can win more. You do not care about anything else.
No because I checkswing just as often as the person I'm playing against. I'm sick of getting bailed out when I swung and my opponent doing the same when clearly these should be called strikes.
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@a_perfectgame said in Thank god 21 won’t let check swings bail people out as often:
@gradekthebard said in Thank god 21 won’t let check swings bail people out as often:
@a_perfectgame said in Thank god 21 won’t let check swings bail people out as often:
@gradekthebard said in Thank god 21 won’t let check swings bail people out as often:
@thebigmehple_psn said in Thank god 21 won’t let check swings bail people out as often:
@mr7brown_xbl said in Thank god 21 won’t let check swings bail people out as often:
@a_perfectgame said in Thank god 21 won’t let check swings bail people out as often:
@mr7brown_xbl said in Thank god 21 won’t let check swings bail people out as often:
@a_perfectgame said in Thank god 21 won’t let check swings bail people out as often:
@mr7brown_xbl said in Thank god 21 won’t let check swings bail people out as often:
I'd just rather they fix the super sink sinker on outlier sinkers at the top of the zone.
Over check swings?! No way. The high sinkers is not unhittable - it’s OP but it’s not unhittable. The check swing is game breaking
Nah, check swings happen. Sinkers sinking at 100 above the zone into the zone do not.
Check swings do not happen 65 x in 1 game at an 85% success rate.
Maybe you should pitch in the zone more? I have never seen 65 check swings in a game. However, there is a possibility it could happen in real life no matter how probable it would be. As far as physics, a sinker would not be able to move in such a manner thrown that way.
pitch in the zone more?? get real. if I have you off balance checkswinging all day I'll continue to throw balls. you guys are in for a rude awakening when 21 drops. 10-15 Ks a game.
Let’s be clear, if people are striking out 15x a game on all star in early 21, SDS will patch it very quickly. No matter what the sweaty’s want, SDS is a for profit business and will adjust the game towards “fun” for the average player.
In competitive mode? Doubtful. Competitive mode is for the sweaty’s.
Competitive mode is h2h, which most DD players use. If all star metrics (events/low ranked/etc) aren’t “fun” those players leave, which is bad for SDS. Just like how they made the button accuracy easier based on data from the beta in 20, they will adjust check swings, timing windows, pitch speeds, etc to ensure their average customer has an enjoyable experience.
I think you are wrong. They clearly said they are trying to focus on the user being in control of as much input in the game as possible which means they are moving away from RNG. They’ve been mentioning this a lot. User user user. You can’t go user user user then when a few users fail go back to giving them a crutch.
They’ve openly stated that is what casual mode and custom practice is for to improve for when you play in competitive.
Obviously they’ve been getting a lot of complaints from people. Look at the Twitter feeds and Facebook posts. It’s tons of people just saying the game is random. Most people don’t want that at all levels
“Most people” is entirely baseless. A few hundred people comment on Facebook/Twitter/here (out of hundreds of thousands of customers). Those are the die hards and don’t represent their average customer. I’m not disagreeing with what you said about the, wanting less rng in h2h, but changing pitch speeds/timing Windows/check swing windows are not in fact rng at all and it is those things they will adjust to make average players enjoy the game at all star.
I want to be clear, I am not saying they need to change these things based on my experience, but that they should and WILL based on metrics (whether from the tech test or early gameplay).
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@jogger171717_psn said in Thank god 21 won’t let check swings bail people out as often:
“Throw more strikes because I can’t lay off balls.”
ClassicHuh?
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@a_perfectgame said in Thank god 21 won’t let check swings bail people out as often:
@mr7brown_xbl said in Thank god 21 won’t let check swings bail people out as often:
@a_perfectgame said in Thank god 21 won’t let check swings bail people out as often:
@mr7brown_xbl said in Thank god 21 won’t let check swings bail people out as often:
@a_perfectgame said in Thank god 21 won’t let check swings bail people out as often:
@mr7brown_xbl said in Thank god 21 won’t let check swings bail people out as often:
I'd just rather they fix the super sink sinker on outlier sinkers at the top of the zone.
Over check swings?! No way. The high sinkers is not unhittable - it’s OP but it’s not unhittable. The check swing is game breaking
Nah, check swings happen. Sinkers sinking at 100 above the zone into the zone do not.
Check swings do not happen 65 x in 1 game at an 85% success rate.
Maybe you should pitch in the zone more? I have never seen 65 check swings in a game. However, there is a possibility it could happen in real life no matter how probable it would be. As far as physics, a sinker would not be able to move in such a manner thrown that way.
You want to talk about ball physics and realism then tell me to “pitch in the zone” it’s a hitters job to earn strikes.
Oh and sorry it wasnt 65 it was 69 and it happens all the time. This is a completely broken game mechanic.
If you would've thrown 1/3 of those pitches in the zone it would have been 23 strikeouts.
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@mr7brown_xbl said in Thank god 21 won’t let check swings bail people out as often:
@a_perfectgame said in Thank god 21 won’t let check swings bail people out as often:
@mr7brown_xbl said in Thank god 21 won’t let check swings bail people out as often:
@a_perfectgame said in Thank god 21 won’t let check swings bail people out as often:
@mr7brown_xbl said in Thank god 21 won’t let check swings bail people out as often:
@a_perfectgame said in Thank god 21 won’t let check swings bail people out as often:
@mr7brown_xbl said in Thank god 21 won’t let check swings bail people out as often:
I'd just rather they fix the super sink sinker on outlier sinkers at the top of the zone.
Over check swings?! No way. The high sinkers is not unhittable - it’s OP but it’s not unhittable. The check swing is game breaking
Nah, check swings happen. Sinkers sinking at 100 above the zone into the zone do not.
Check swings do not happen 65 x in 1 game at an 85% success rate.
Maybe you should pitch in the zone more? I have never seen 65 check swings in a game. However, there is a possibility it could happen in real life no matter how probable it would be. As far as physics, a sinker would not be able to move in such a manner thrown that way.
You want to talk about ball physics and realism then tell me to “pitch in the zone” it’s a hitters job to earn strikes.
Oh and sorry it wasnt 65 it was 69 and it happens all the time. This is a completely broken game mechanic.
If you would've thrown 1/3 of those pitches in the zone it would have been 23 strikeouts.
not a chance. in the zone results in very early/late foul balls.
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I can’t wait for the check swing bandits to strike out 8 times in 3 innings and then rage quit!!!
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@mr7brown_xbl said in Thank god 21 won’t let check swings bail people out as often:
@a_perfectgame said in Thank god 21 won’t let check swings bail people out as often:
@mr7brown_xbl said in Thank god 21 won’t let check swings bail people out as often:
@a_perfectgame said in Thank god 21 won’t let check swings bail people out as often:
@mr7brown_xbl said in Thank god 21 won’t let check swings bail people out as often:
@a_perfectgame said in Thank god 21 won’t let check swings bail people out as often:
@mr7brown_xbl said in Thank god 21 won’t let check swings bail people out as often:
I'd just rather they fix the super sink sinker on outlier sinkers at the top of the zone.
Over check swings?! No way. The high sinkers is not unhittable - it’s OP but it’s not unhittable. The check swing is game breaking
Nah, check swings happen. Sinkers sinking at 100 above the zone into the zone do not.
Check swings do not happen 65 x in 1 game at an 85% success rate.
Maybe you should pitch in the zone more? I have never seen 65 check swings in a game. However, there is a possibility it could happen in real life no matter how probable it would be. As far as physics, a sinker would not be able to move in such a manner thrown that way.
You want to talk about ball physics and realism then tell me to “pitch in the zone” it’s a hitters job to earn strikes.
Oh and sorry it wasnt 65 it was 69 and it happens all the time. This is a completely broken game mechanic.
If you would've thrown 1/3 of those pitches in the zone it would have been 23 strikeouts.
Get some plate discipline instead of relying on check swings to bail you out lol
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@ibonafidescrub_ said in Thank god 21 won’t let check swings bail people out as often:
I can’t wait for the check swing bandits to strike out 8 times in 3 innings and then rage quit!!!
And then they would put check swings back. Careful what you wish for.
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@vipersneak_psn said in Thank god 21 won’t let check swings bail people out as often:
@ibonafidescrub_ said in Thank god 21 won’t let check swings bail people out as often:
I can’t wait for the check swing bandits to strike out 8 times in 3 innings and then rage quit!!!
And then they would put check swings back. Careful what you wish for.
No they aren’t this is wishful thinking. They are going a new direction with the game that’s evident. They are separating competitive from other forms of play. They aren’t going to listen to non-competitive minded people to dictate competitive gameplay. That’s what’s ruined the gameplay in the past and they are aware of it.
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@a_perfectgame said in Thank god 21 won’t let check swings bail people out as often:
@vipersneak_psn said in Thank god 21 won’t let check swings bail people out as often:
@ibonafidescrub_ said in Thank god 21 won’t let check swings bail people out as often:
I can’t wait for the check swing bandits to strike out 8 times in 3 innings and then rage quit!!!
And then they would put check swings back. Careful what you wish for.
No they aren’t this is wishful thinking. They are going a new direction with the game that’s evident. They are separating competitive from other forms of play. They aren’t going to listen to non-competitive minded people to dictate competitive gameplay. That’s what’s ruined the gameplay in the past and they are aware of it.
Maybe on HoF and Legend, but I can almost guarantee they will make sure All Star if fun for the median player
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@a_perfectgame said in Thank god 21 won’t let check swings bail people out as often:
@vipersneak_psn said in Thank god 21 won’t let check swings bail people out as often:
@ibonafidescrub_ said in Thank god 21 won’t let check swings bail people out as often:
I can’t wait for the check swing bandits to strike out 8 times in 3 innings and then rage quit!!!
And then they would put check swings back. Careful what you wish for.
No they aren’t this is wishful thinking. They are going a new direction with the game that’s evident. They are separating competitive from other forms of play. They aren’t going to listen to non-competitive minded people to dictate competitive gameplay. That’s what’s ruined the gameplay in the past and they are aware of it.
Source? Because them asking everyone to fill out surveys says different. So cmon know it all tell us and show proof where they aren't listening to "non-Competitive people." Cmon bigshot tell us!
Or are you assuming again and spewing more spew like always? Did it ever occur to you that they may want feedback from "non-competitive people" to find out what would get more people interested in it? Or why they are not interested in it to begin with?
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@grizzbear55_psn said in Thank god 21 won’t let check swings bail people out as often:
@a_perfectgame said in Thank god 21 won’t let check swings bail people out as often:
@vipersneak_psn said in Thank god 21 won’t let check swings bail people out as often:
@ibonafidescrub_ said in Thank god 21 won’t let check swings bail people out as often:
I can’t wait for the check swing bandits to strike out 8 times in 3 innings and then rage quit!!!
And then they would put check swings back. Careful what you wish for.
No they aren’t this is wishful thinking. They are going a new direction with the game that’s evident. They are separating competitive from other forms of play. They aren’t going to listen to non-competitive minded people to dictate competitive gameplay. That’s what’s ruined the gameplay in the past and they are aware of it.
Source? Because them asking everyone to fill out surveys says different. So cmon know it all tell us and show proof where they aren't listening to "non-Competitive people." Cmon bigshot tell us!
Or are you assuming again and spewing more spew like always? Did it ever occur to you that they may want feedback from "non-competitive people" to find out what would get more people interested in it? Or why they are not interested in it to begin with?
Have you been paying attention? They clearly said in the streams that they want things in competitive mode to be USER CONTROLLED. They stated that the check swings are now user ability and not based on discipline. They also stated that competitive mode is based on “user stick skills”. That’s in all difficulties. Because when they take that away it has an effect on ALL DIFFICULTIES
So yea. I believe I’m right because I pay attention. Unless they are totally lying the direction they are going with the game is taking competitive ppls opinion and input on competitive modes. And casual ppls input on casual modes. Allstar will not be casual it will be competitive.
Abandoning that direction because a couple crybabies strike out because they want to swing at every pitch would be silly
So you are saying they will put discipline BACK in the game and take control away from the user if people strike out? I think those days are over dude. They are trying to take the game to the next level — you can’t do that with a sim.
You do that with a highly competitive game that represents the user.
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@a_perfectgame said in Thank god 21 won’t let check swings bail people out as often:
@grizzbear55_psn said in Thank god 21 won’t let check swings bail people out as often:
@a_perfectgame said in Thank god 21 won’t let check swings bail people out as often:
@vipersneak_psn said in Thank god 21 won’t let check swings bail people out as often:
@ibonafidescrub_ said in Thank god 21 won’t let check swings bail people out as often:
I can’t wait for the check swing bandits to strike out 8 times in 3 innings and then rage quit!!!
And then they would put check swings back. Careful what you wish for.
No they aren’t this is wishful thinking. They are going a new direction with the game that’s evident. They are separating competitive from other forms of play. They aren’t going to listen to non-competitive minded people to dictate competitive gameplay. That’s what’s ruined the gameplay in the past and they are aware of it.
Source? Because them asking everyone to fill out surveys says different. So cmon know it all tell us and show proof where they aren't listening to "non-Competitive people." Cmon bigshot tell us!
Or are you assuming again and spewing more spew like always? Did it ever occur to you that they may want feedback from "non-competitive people" to find out what would get more people interested in it? Or why they are not interested in it to begin with?
Have you been paying attention? They clearly said in the streams that they want things in competitive mode to be USER CONTROLLED. They stated that the check swings are now user ability and not based on discipline. They also stated that competitive mode is based on “user stick skills”. That’s in all difficulties. Because when they take that away it has an effect on ALL DIFFICULTIES
So yea. I believe I’m right because I pay attention. Unless they are totally lying the direction they are going with the game is taking competitive ppls opinion and input on competitive modes. And casual ppls input on casual modes. Allstar will not be casual it will be competitive.
Abandoning that direction because a couple crybabies strike out because they want to swing at every pitch would be silly
They won’t abandon it because people whine, they WILL adjust it (on all star) as the metrics from the median player dictate.
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@gradekthebard said in Thank god 21 won’t let check swings bail people out as often:
@a_perfectgame said in Thank god 21 won’t let check swings bail people out as often:
@grizzbear55_psn said in Thank god 21 won’t let check swings bail people out as often:
@a_perfectgame said in Thank god 21 won’t let check swings bail people out as often:
@vipersneak_psn said in Thank god 21 won’t let check swings bail people out as often:
@ibonafidescrub_ said in Thank god 21 won’t let check swings bail people out as often:
I can’t wait for the check swing bandits to strike out 8 times in 3 innings and then rage quit!!!
And then they would put check swings back. Careful what you wish for.
No they aren’t this is wishful thinking. They are going a new direction with the game that’s evident. They are separating competitive from other forms of play. They aren’t going to listen to non-competitive minded people to dictate competitive gameplay. That’s what’s ruined the gameplay in the past and they are aware of it.
Source? Because them asking everyone to fill out surveys says different. So cmon know it all tell us and show proof where they aren't listening to "non-Competitive people." Cmon bigshot tell us!
Or are you assuming again and spewing more spew like always? Did it ever occur to you that they may want feedback from "non-competitive people" to find out what would get more people interested in it? Or why they are not interested in it to begin with?
Have you been paying attention? They clearly said in the streams that they want things in competitive mode to be USER CONTROLLED. They stated that the check swings are now user ability and not based on discipline. They also stated that competitive mode is based on “user stick skills”. That’s in all difficulties. Because when they take that away it has an effect on ALL DIFFICULTIES
So yea. I believe I’m right because I pay attention. Unless they are totally lying the direction they are going with the game is taking competitive ppls opinion and input on competitive modes. And casual ppls input on casual modes. Allstar will not be casual it will be competitive.
Abandoning that direction because a couple crybabies strike out because they want to swing at every pitch would be silly
They won’t abandon it because people whine, they WILL adjust it (on all star) as the metrics from the median player dictate.
They have years of data. If they wanted to do that why not just start that way? Just because ppl strike out? They have the ability to improve by just not swinging. From what they have been saying I don’t think they will go the route of making adjustments to gameplay results based on data unless the data is glaring which would mean something is wrong. Like for example — too many hits are happening on late weak contact — that might make them adjust something. But they know exactly what will happen if they do what they are doing with check swings.
People WILL strike out more. You don’t need data to know that.
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@a_perfectgame said in Thank god 21 won’t let check swings bail people out as often:
@gradekthebard said in Thank god 21 won’t let check swings bail people out as often:
@a_perfectgame said in Thank god 21 won’t let check swings bail people out as often:
@grizzbear55_psn said in Thank god 21 won’t let check swings bail people out as often:
@a_perfectgame said in Thank god 21 won’t let check swings bail people out as often:
@vipersneak_psn said in Thank god 21 won’t let check swings bail people out as often:
@ibonafidescrub_ said in Thank god 21 won’t let check swings bail people out as often:
I can’t wait for the check swing bandits to strike out 8 times in 3 innings and then rage quit!!!
And then they would put check swings back. Careful what you wish for.
No they aren’t this is wishful thinking. They are going a new direction with the game that’s evident. They are separating competitive from other forms of play. They aren’t going to listen to non-competitive minded people to dictate competitive gameplay. That’s what’s ruined the gameplay in the past and they are aware of it.
Source? Because them asking everyone to fill out surveys says different. So cmon know it all tell us and show proof where they aren't listening to "non-Competitive people." Cmon bigshot tell us!
Or are you assuming again and spewing more spew like always? Did it ever occur to you that they may want feedback from "non-competitive people" to find out what would get more people interested in it? Or why they are not interested in it to begin with?
Have you been paying attention? They clearly said in the streams that they want things in competitive mode to be USER CONTROLLED. They stated that the check swings are now user ability and not based on discipline. They also stated that competitive mode is based on “user stick skills”. That’s in all difficulties. Because when they take that away it has an effect on ALL DIFFICULTIES
So yea. I believe I’m right because I pay attention. Unless they are totally lying the direction they are going with the game is taking competitive ppls opinion and input on competitive modes. And casual ppls input on casual modes. Allstar will not be casual it will be competitive.
Abandoning that direction because a couple crybabies strike out because they want to swing at every pitch would be silly
They won’t abandon it because people whine, they WILL adjust it (on all star) as the metrics from the median player dictate.
They have years of data. If they wanted to do that why not just start that way? Just because ppl strike out? They have the ability to improve by just not swinging. From what they have been saying I don’t think they will go the route of making adjustments to gameplay results based on data unless the data is glaring which would mean something is wrong. Like for example — too many hits are happening on late weak contact — that might make them adjust something. But they know exactly what will happen if they do what they are doing with check swings.
People WILL strike out more. You don’t need data to know that.
They likely already made adjustments based on the tech test (just like they did last year after the beta). You are going to be in for a shock if you think gameplay from the tech test is going to be exactly the same as what we see when 21 releases.
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@gradekthebard said in Thank god 21 won’t let check swings bail people out as often:
@a_perfectgame said in Thank god 21 won’t let check swings bail people out as often:
@gradekthebard said in Thank god 21 won’t let check swings bail people out as often:
@a_perfectgame said in Thank god 21 won’t let check swings bail people out as often:
@grizzbear55_psn said in Thank god 21 won’t let check swings bail people out as often:
@a_perfectgame said in Thank god 21 won’t let check swings bail people out as often:
@vipersneak_psn said in Thank god 21 won’t let check swings bail people out as often:
@ibonafidescrub_ said in Thank god 21 won’t let check swings bail people out as often:
I can’t wait for the check swing bandits to strike out 8 times in 3 innings and then rage quit!!!
And then they would put check swings back. Careful what you wish for.
No they aren’t this is wishful thinking. They are going a new direction with the game that’s evident. They are separating competitive from other forms of play. They aren’t going to listen to non-competitive minded people to dictate competitive gameplay. That’s what’s ruined the gameplay in the past and they are aware of it.
Source? Because them asking everyone to fill out surveys says different. So cmon know it all tell us and show proof where they aren't listening to "non-Competitive people." Cmon bigshot tell us!
Or are you assuming again and spewing more spew like always? Did it ever occur to you that they may want feedback from "non-competitive people" to find out what would get more people interested in it? Or why they are not interested in it to begin with?
Have you been paying attention? They clearly said in the streams that they want things in competitive mode to be USER CONTROLLED. They stated that the check swings are now user ability and not based on discipline. They also stated that competitive mode is based on “user stick skills”. That’s in all difficulties. Because when they take that away it has an effect on ALL DIFFICULTIES
So yea. I believe I’m right because I pay attention. Unless they are totally lying the direction they are going with the game is taking competitive ppls opinion and input on competitive modes. And casual ppls input on casual modes. Allstar will not be casual it will be competitive.
Abandoning that direction because a couple crybabies strike out because they want to swing at every pitch would be silly
They won’t abandon it because people whine, they WILL adjust it (on all star) as the metrics from the median player dictate.
They have years of data. If they wanted to do that why not just start that way? Just because ppl strike out? They have the ability to improve by just not swinging. From what they have been saying I don’t think they will go the route of making adjustments to gameplay results based on data unless the data is glaring which would mean something is wrong. Like for example — too many hits are happening on late weak contact — that might make them adjust something. But they know exactly what will happen if they do what they are doing with check swings.
People WILL strike out more. You don’t need data to know that.
They likely already made adjustments based on the tech test (just like they did last year after the beta). You are going to be in for a shock if you think gameplay from the tech test is going to be exactly the same as what we see when 21 releases.
No I don’t think it will Be exactly the same I think some adjustments were justified ... but based on how they spoke about check swings I strongly doubt it’ll be different especially since it was super balanced.
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@a_perfectgame said in Thank god 21 won’t let check swings bail people out as often:
@grizzbear55_psn said in Thank god 21 won’t let check swings bail people out as often:
@a_perfectgame said in Thank god 21 won’t let check swings bail people out as often:
@vipersneak_psn said in Thank god 21 won’t let check swings bail people out as often:
@ibonafidescrub_ said in Thank god 21 won’t let check swings bail people out as often:
I can’t wait for the check swing bandits to strike out 8 times in 3 innings and then rage quit!!!
And then they would put check swings back. Careful what you wish for.
No they aren’t this is wishful thinking. They are going a new direction with the game that’s evident. They are separating competitive from other forms of play. They aren’t going to listen to non-competitive minded people to dictate competitive gameplay. That’s what’s ruined the gameplay in the past and they are aware of it.
Source? Because them asking everyone to fill out surveys says different. So cmon know it all tell us and show proof where they aren't listening to "non-Competitive people." Cmon bigshot tell us!
Or are you assuming again and spewing more spew like always? Did it ever occur to you that they may want feedback from "non-competitive people" to find out what would get more people interested in it? Or why they are not interested in it to begin with?
Have you been paying attention? They clearly said in the streams that they want things in competitive mode to be USER CONTROLLED. They stated that the check swings are now user ability and not based on discipline. They also stated that competitive mode is based on “user stick skills”. That’s in all difficulties. Because when they take that away it has an effect on ALL DIFFICULTIES
So yea. I believe I’m right because I pay attention. Unless they are totally lying the direction they are going with the game is taking competitive ppls opinion and input on competitive modes. And casual ppls input on casual modes. Allstar will not be casual it will be competitive.
Abandoning that direction because a couple crybabies strike out because they want to swing at every pitch would be silly
So you are saying they will put discipline BACK in the game and take control away from the user if people strike out? I think those days are over dude. They are trying to take the game to the next level — you can’t do that with a sim.
You do that with a highly competitive game that represents the user.
I never said any of that! I don't play Competitive for reasons you didn't even mention so i don't know where you came up with that from. I said "Did it occur to you that they could ask non -competitive people why they don't play mode." OMG it is written in post up above ffs and then ask me if i'm paying attention? So freakin done with you.
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@grizzbear55_psn said in Thank god 21 won’t let check swings bail people out as often:
@a_perfectgame said in Thank god 21 won’t let check swings bail people out as often:
@grizzbear55_psn said in Thank god 21 won’t let check swings bail people out as often:
@a_perfectgame said in Thank god 21 won’t let check swings bail people out as often:
@vipersneak_psn said in Thank god 21 won’t let check swings bail people out as often:
@ibonafidescrub_ said in Thank god 21 won’t let check swings bail people out as often:
I can’t wait for the check swing bandits to strike out 8 times in 3 innings and then rage quit!!!
And then they would put check swings back. Careful what you wish for.
No they aren’t this is wishful thinking. They are going a new direction with the game that’s evident. They are separating competitive from other forms of play. They aren’t going to listen to non-competitive minded people to dictate competitive gameplay. That’s what’s ruined the gameplay in the past and they are aware of it.
Source? Because them asking everyone to fill out surveys says different. So cmon know it all tell us and show proof where they aren't listening to "non-Competitive people." Cmon bigshot tell us!
Or are you assuming again and spewing more spew like always? Did it ever occur to you that they may want feedback from "non-competitive people" to find out what would get more people interested in it? Or why they are not interested in it to begin with?
Have you been paying attention? They clearly said in the streams that they want things in competitive mode to be USER CONTROLLED. They stated that the check swings are now user ability and not based on discipline. They also stated that competitive mode is based on “user stick skills”. That’s in all difficulties. Because when they take that away it has an effect on ALL DIFFICULTIES
So yea. I believe I’m right because I pay attention. Unless they are totally lying the direction they are going with the game is taking competitive ppls opinion and input on competitive modes. And casual ppls input on casual modes. Allstar will not be casual it will be competitive.
Abandoning that direction because a couple crybabies strike out because they want to swing at every pitch would be silly
So you are saying they will put discipline BACK in the game and take control away from the user if people strike out? I think those days are over dude. They are trying to take the game to the next level — you can’t do that with a sim.
You do that with a highly competitive game that represents the user.
I never said any of that! I don't play Competitive for reasons you didn't even mention so i don't know where you came up with that from. I said "Did it occur to you that they could ask non -competitive people why they don't play mode." OMG it is written in post up above ffs and then ask me if i'm paying attention? So freakin done with you.
I said —- “ They aren’t going to listen to non-competitive minded people to dictate competitive gameplay. That’s what’s ruined the gameplay in the past and they are aware of it.”
You asked me to give my source.
My source was SDS — they aren’t going to change competitive mode to suit a few people because it’s “hard” they tried that it fails. This game is a niche product. You literally aren’t paying attention.
This is where this game is going right now. They are trying to please all groups. They aren’t going to worry about why non-competitive people don’t play competitive modes instead...they are making non-competitive modes for those people and letting competitive be competitive.
You are saying they are going to change competitive to be less competitive because competitive is too competitive? Do you listen to yourself?
Logic. Common sense. You don’t have them.
Pay attention to how sds is marketing themselves right now. Instead of trying to please everyone with one game style they are breaking up the game styles into different places to play. Why after doing that would they change competitive mode to suit people that feel that it’s too hard...the word HARD is what competitive means in a sense. It’s no longer the mode to please the masses it is now the mode to play verse others once you honed your skill of the game.
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"Logic. Common sense. You don’t have them."
Uncalled for. Just state your opinion.
