Clemente
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For everyone criticizing Clemente's power, realize that he played at Forbes most of his career. Dimensions there were 360 to left, 376 to right, 462 to center yet he still managed to hit 240 homers in his career.
the splits:
https://www.statmuse.com/mlb/player/roberto-clemente-11079/splits -
@pfcorporate_psn said in Clemente:
@tinstaapp_psn said in Clemente:
I never saw Clemente play, but my understanding is that he was a tremendous outfielder with a rocket throwing arm. He might end up as one of the best fielding cards in the game. Unfortunately he didn’t have much power, so I think pwr in the 70s is probably the max. He didn’t really steal bases either. I’m interested to see what his stats will look like.
You are probably right on the power but if they do an mvp card they could boost his power up over 100. Morgan’s card this year had 108 power from a 27 hr season. Clemente hit 29 in his mvp season. Without a power boost he may not be all that usable depending on how the game plays.
I am pretty sure power isn't tied only to HRS, but SLG.
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@nflman2033 said in Clemente:
@pfcorporate_psn said in Clemente:
@tinstaapp_psn said in Clemente:
I never saw Clemente play, but my understanding is that he was a tremendous outfielder with a rocket throwing arm. He might end up as one of the best fielding cards in the game. Unfortunately he didn’t have much power, so I think pwr in the 70s is probably the max. He didn’t really steal bases either. I’m interested to see what his stats will look like.
You are probably right on the power but if they do an mvp card they could boost his power up over 100. Morgan’s card this year had 108 power from a 27 hr season. Clemente hit 29 in his mvp season. Without a power boost he may not be all that usable depending on how the game plays.
I am pretty sure power isn't tied only to HRS, but SLG.
Could be true but seems like sds tends to correlate power to hr output. Pulling slugging in Clemente had a higher lifetime SLG that Morgan. Pretty close in mvp seasons. My point is it’s a pretty popular card so SDS has some cover to boost his power if they want to.
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@pfcorporate_psn said in Clemente:
@nflman2033 said in Clemente:
@pfcorporate_psn said in Clemente:
@tinstaapp_psn said in Clemente:
I never saw Clemente play, but my understanding is that he was a tremendous outfielder with a rocket throwing arm. He might end up as one of the best fielding cards in the game. Unfortunately he didn’t have much power, so I think pwr in the 70s is probably the max. He didn’t really steal bases either. I’m interested to see what his stats will look like.
You are probably right on the power but if they do an mvp card they could boost his power up over 100. Morgan’s card this year had 108 power from a 27 hr season. Clemente hit 29 in his mvp season. Without a power boost he may not be all that usable depending on how the game plays.
I am pretty sure power isn't tied only to HRS, but SLG.
Could be true but seems like sds tends to correlate power to hr output. Pulling slugging in Clemente had a higher lifetime SLG that Morgan. Pretty close in mvp seasons. My point is it’s a pretty popular card so SDS has some cover to boost his power if they want to.
Well, for starters, you can't talk about a card for a season then bring up a lifetime Stat to compare. What was Morgan's SLG that season.
Also don't forget that it's split based, what was Morgans SLG vs RHP that year?
And lastly don't forget the speed component.
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@nflman2033 said in Clemente:
@pfcorporate_psn said in Clemente:
@nflman2033 said in Clemente:
@pfcorporate_psn said in Clemente:
@tinstaapp_psn said in Clemente:
I never saw Clemente play, but my understanding is that he was a tremendous outfielder with a rocket throwing arm. He might end up as one of the best fielding cards in the game. Unfortunately he didn’t have much power, so I think pwr in the 70s is probably the max. He didn’t really steal bases either. I’m interested to see what his stats will look like.
You are probably right on the power but if they do an mvp card they could boost his power up over 100. Morgan’s card this year had 108 power from a 27 hr season. Clemente hit 29 in his mvp season. Without a power boost he may not be all that usable depending on how the game plays.
I am pretty sure power isn't tied only to HRS, but SLG.
Could be true but seems like sds tends to correlate power to hr output. Pulling slugging in Clemente had a higher lifetime SLG that Morgan. Pretty close in mvp seasons. My point is it’s a pretty popular card so SDS has some cover to boost his power if they want to.
Well, for starters, you can't talk about a card for a season then bring up a lifetime Stat to compare. What was Morgan's SLG that season.
Also don't forget that it's split based, what was Morgans SLG vs RHP that year?
And lastly don't forget the speed component.
Again my point is it’s a card that people have been asking for on these forums for a few years. The game tends to favor power so those tend to be the more popular cards. There is a precedent where sds will boost power if there is any way to justify it.
I’m just saying if they make Roberto Clemente Minnie minoso with a better arm people will complain all year. Nothing against minoso but I never see that card in any lineups. Clemente is a popular choice and they have a justifiable path to give him a great card.
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@zooropa_returns said in Clemente:
@ejwik13_psn said in Clemente:
@lucas8181 said in Clemente:
@joeythebigboss said in Clemente:
I hope the live series Collection is 1 of three guys . either DiMaggio probably won’t be since Another all time Yankee was the live series reward last year in Mantle , Hank Aaron or they go crazy and get the rights to Juicy Pun intended Bonds .
Bonds will never sell his rights. Even when he was a player, he retained his own rights instead of being part of the MLBPA. Hopefully one day, people will stop repeating this impossibility on forums.
Or, people like to have positive attitudes and since he’s the most asked for player in the entire DD community, a lot of people don’t mind having hope that he will one day be in the game. If you personally would like to hold that negative attitude be my guest but don’t get mad at others for being joyful and positive
I saw nothing negative in his post. Sad that realistic views when not agreeing with what one deems positive is viewed as negative.
agreed, but it's also why I visit the forums for a few days when I'm bored, then I forget all about them for weeks or months. People struggle with ideas that are counter to their own.
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@zooropa_returns said in Clemente:
@ejwik13_psn said in Clemente:
@lucas8181 said in Clemente:
@joeythebigboss said in Clemente:
I hope the live series Collection is 1 of three guys . either DiMaggio probably won’t be since Another all time Yankee was the live series reward last year in Mantle , Hank Aaron or they go crazy and get the rights to Juicy Pun intended Bonds .
Bonds will never sell his rights. Even when he was a player, he retained his own rights instead of being part of the MLBPA. Hopefully one day, people will stop repeating this impossibility on forums.
Or, people like to have positive attitudes and since he’s the most asked for player in the entire DD community, a lot of people don’t mind having hope that he will one day be in the game. If you personally would like to hold that negative attitude be my guest but don’t get mad at others for being joyful and positive
I saw nothing negative in his post. Sad that realistic views when not agreeing with what one deems positive is viewed as negative.
It’s more the fact people think they own this forum, and any need to repeat themselves is seen as an insult to them and the forum. Some of these guys still get upset someone doesn’t know certain packs had three tiers instead of two the year before, or that HR derby cards will be quicksell value in a month!!! They never were, but [censored] if Lucas and crew didn’t make you feel like an idiot for things that never even happened lol.
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@zooropa_returns said in Clemente:
@ejwik13_psn said in Clemente:
@lucas8181 said in Clemente:
@joeythebigboss said in Clemente:
I hope the live series Collection is 1 of three guys . either DiMaggio probably won’t be since Another all time Yankee was the live series reward last year in Mantle , Hank Aaron or they go crazy and get the rights to Juicy Pun intended Bonds .
Bonds will never sell his rights. Even when he was a player, he retained his own rights instead of being part of the MLBPA. Hopefully one day, people will stop repeating this impossibility on forums.
Or, people like to have positive attitudes and since he’s the most asked for player in the entire DD community, a lot of people don’t mind having hope that he will one day be in the game. If you personally would like to hold that negative attitude be my guest but don’t get mad at others for being joyful and positive
I saw nothing negative in his post. Sad that realistic views when not agreeing with what one deems positive is viewed as negative.
Him being upset that people mention Bonds is a little negative no? In my opinion it’s negative to say people shouldn’t be able to talk about and ask for the players they want? Are you making the claim that he’s being positive by trying to restrict the communities ability to speak freely about who they want in the game?
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@ejwik13_psn said in Clemente:
@zooropa_returns said in Clemente:
@ejwik13_psn said in Clemente:
@lucas8181 said in Clemente:
@joeythebigboss said in Clemente:
I hope the live series Collection is 1 of three guys . either DiMaggio probably won’t be since Another all time Yankee was the live series reward last year in Mantle , Hank Aaron or they go crazy and get the rights to Juicy Pun intended Bonds .
Bonds will never sell his rights. Even when he was a player, he retained his own rights instead of being part of the MLBPA. Hopefully one day, people will stop repeating this impossibility on forums.
Or, people like to have positive attitudes and since he’s the most asked for player in the entire DD community, a lot of people don’t mind having hope that he will one day be in the game. If you personally would like to hold that negative attitude be my guest but don’t get mad at others for being joyful and positive
I saw nothing negative in his post. Sad that realistic views when not agreeing with what one deems positive is viewed as negative.
Him being upset that people mention Bonds is a little negative no? In my opinion it’s negative to say people shouldn’t be able to talk about and ask for the players they want? Are you making the claim that he’s being positive by trying to restrict the communities ability to speak freely about who they want in the game?
If you think i'm actually upset I'm sorry man, not sure what to tell you. Maybe read what I've written again?
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@lucas8181 said in Clemente:
@ejwik13_psn said in Clemente:
@zooropa_returns said in Clemente:
@ejwik13_psn said in Clemente:
@lucas8181 said in Clemente:
@joeythebigboss said in Clemente:
I hope the live series Collection is 1 of three guys . either DiMaggio probably won’t be since Another all time Yankee was the live series reward last year in Mantle , Hank Aaron or they go crazy and get the rights to Juicy Pun intended Bonds .
Bonds will never sell his rights. Even when he was a player, he retained his own rights instead of being part of the MLBPA. Hopefully one day, people will stop repeating this impossibility on forums.
Or, people like to have positive attitudes and since he’s the most asked for player in the entire DD community, a lot of people don’t mind having hope that he will one day be in the game. If you personally would like to hold that negative attitude be my guest but don’t get mad at others for being joyful and positive
I saw nothing negative in his post. Sad that realistic views when not agreeing with what one deems positive is viewed as negative.
Him being upset that people mention Bonds is a little negative no? In my opinion it’s negative to say people shouldn’t be able to talk about and ask for the players they want? Are you making the claim that he’s being positive by trying to restrict the communities ability to speak freely about who they want in the game?
If you think i'm actually upset I'm sorry man, not sure what to tell you. Maybe read what I've written again?
Im just saying don’t get mad when people say they want to see bonds in the game. It’s an understandable request. But we’re good. No hard feelings or anything like that
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@ejwik13_psn said in Clemente:
@lucas8181 said in Clemente:
@ejwik13_psn said in Clemente:
@zooropa_returns said in Clemente:
@ejwik13_psn said in Clemente:
@lucas8181 said in Clemente:
@joeythebigboss said in Clemente:
I hope the live series Collection is 1 of three guys . either DiMaggio probably won’t be since Another all time Yankee was the live series reward last year in Mantle , Hank Aaron or they go crazy and get the rights to Juicy Pun intended Bonds .
Bonds will never sell his rights. Even when he was a player, he retained his own rights instead of being part of the MLBPA. Hopefully one day, people will stop repeating this impossibility on forums.
Or, people like to have positive attitudes and since he’s the most asked for player in the entire DD community, a lot of people don’t mind having hope that he will one day be in the game. If you personally would like to hold that negative attitude be my guest but don’t get mad at others for being joyful and positive
I saw nothing negative in his post. Sad that realistic views when not agreeing with what one deems positive is viewed as negative.
Him being upset that people mention Bonds is a little negative no? In my opinion it’s negative to say people shouldn’t be able to talk about and ask for the players they want? Are you making the claim that he’s being positive by trying to restrict the communities ability to speak freely about who they want in the game?
If you think i'm actually upset I'm sorry man, not sure what to tell you. Maybe read what I've written again?
Im just saying don’t get mad when people say they want to see bonds in the game. It’s an understandable request. But we’re good. No hard feelings or anything like that
lol, I am not upset. Applying feelings to other people that don't exist is a red flag, hope you're doing ok?
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I'm very happy with the addition of Clemente, I'll rock with him for a while in the game cycle.
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@arvcpa_psn said in Clemente:
@ikasnu_psn said in Clemente:
I know nothing about him.
Then I have failed as a parent...
Was waiting for someone to say it...haha.
I'm still not sure if that comment was a joke or if he was being serious.
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