Lack of Left handed hitting catchers
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Daulton Varsho
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@writetoshawn said in Lack of Left handed hitting catchers:
@SaveFarris said in Lack of Left handed hitting catchers:
Daulton Varsho
Panda
Panda can't throw anybody out but he can sure rake left handed.
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@TEXAS10PT said in Lack of Left handed hitting catchers:
@writetoshawn said in Lack of Left handed hitting catchers:
@SaveFarris said in Lack of Left handed hitting catchers:
Daulton Varsho
Panda
Panda can't throw anybody out but he can sure rake left handed.
Also can’t block or run, but he can sure rake left handed lol
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Forgot Alex Avila
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@writetoshawn said in Lack of Left handed hitting catchers:
@TEXAS10PT said in Lack of Left handed hitting catchers:
@writetoshawn said in Lack of Left handed hitting catchers:
@SaveFarris said in Lack of Left handed hitting catchers:
Daulton Varsho
Panda
Panda can't throw anybody out but he can sure rake left handed.
Also can’t block or run, but he can sure rake left handed lol
LOL I actually love that card Shawn
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@NCStateHokie said in Lack of Left handed hitting catchers:
Forgot Alex Avila
Was it just me that noticed you and I got matched up in an event game a couple nights ago?
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@writetoshawn said in Lack of Left handed hitting catchers:
@NCStateHokie said in Lack of Left handed hitting catchers:
Forgot Alex Avila
Was it just me that noticed you and I got matched up in an event game a couple nights ago?
Nope, I thought so but confirmed after the game. Think you won 1-0 on a solo shot?
I hardly ever get matched with anyone on this board but that same night I played OreoRockstar in the event too.
Enjoyed both games. One of the few times I felt confident I wouldn't get dashboarded!
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@NCStateHokie said in Lack of Left handed hitting catchers:
@writetoshawn said in Lack of Left handed hitting catchers:
@NCStateHokie said in Lack of Left handed hitting catchers:
Forgot Alex Avila
Was it just me that noticed you and I got matched up in an event game a couple nights ago?
Nope, I thought so but confirmed after the game. Think you won 1-0 on a solo shot?
I hardly ever get matched with anyone on this board but that same night I played OreoRockstar in the event too.
Enjoyed both games. One of the few times I felt confident I wouldn't get dashboarded!
LMAO. Nope, you hit a SHOT to tie the game in the 3rd inning with 2 outs and 2 strikes. I replayed it for you lol
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@writetoshawn said in Lack of Left handed hitting catchers:
@NCStateHokie said in Lack of Left handed hitting catchers:
@writetoshawn said in Lack of Left handed hitting catchers:
@NCStateHokie said in Lack of Left handed hitting catchers:
Forgot Alex Avila
Was it just me that noticed you and I got matched up in an event game a couple nights ago?
Nope, I thought so but confirmed after the game. Think you won 1-0 on a solo shot?
I hardly ever get matched with anyone on this board but that same night I played OreoRockstar in the event too.
Enjoyed both games. One of the few times I felt confident I wouldn't get dashboarded!
LMAO. Nope, you hit a SHOT to tie the game in the 3rd inning with 2 outs and 2 strikes. I replayed it for you lol
Oops. I played alot of games that day. I still think you won though. Pretty sure I lost both games to you and Oreo.
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According to a fan graphs article the top 25 left handed hitting catchers of all time are
1.Yogi Berra
2. Bill Dickey
3. Mickey Cochran's
4. Darrell Porter
5. Tim McCarver
6.Tom Haller
7. John Roseboro
8.Darren Daulton
9. Mike Sciosia
10. Smoky Burgess
11. Ed Bailey
12.Johnny Edwards
13. Terry Kennedy
14. Joe Mauer
15. BJ Surhoff
16. Ernie Whitt
17. AJ Pierzynski
18. Ivey Wingo
19. Milt May
20. Johnny Bassler
21. Mike Lavallierre
22. Earl Smith
23.Clay Dalrymple
24. Rich German
25. Darrin FletcherOutside of Berra, Mauer, and Pierzynski, how many players from this list could realistically be in the game? Lefty hitting catchers is an extremely weak group of players as you can tell. McCarver and Sciocia are much more known for their broadcasting/managing careers. If I were SDS I wouldn't waste money on most of these guys' rights either
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The topic of this thread is why baseball folks have been saying that the most draftable profile in baseball, after LHP, is LHH Catcher. The fact that you're clamoring for Brian F'ing McCann is evidence enough that there haven't really been a lot of great catchers period, let alone ones who hit left-handed. The only one in my lifetime is Joe Mauer.
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@hegone44 said in Lack of Left handed hitting catchers:
The topic of this thread is why baseball folks have been saying that the most draftable profile in baseball, after LHP, is LHH Catcher. The fact that you're clamoring for Brian F'ing McCann is evidence enough that there haven't really been a lot of great catchers period, let alone ones who hit left-handed. The only one in my lifetime is Joe Mauer.
And the only other ones I can think of are McCann, Pierzynski, and Alex Avila since the mid 2000s. A lot of people hype up Mauer to be a lot better than he really was just because he was truly the only elite catcher in that era until Posey and Yadi came along. If Piazza and Pudge played 1B instead of Catcher neither of them would be in the HOF because of their alleged steroid use IMO. That's how weak the catcher position has been throughout the years
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@the_dragon1912 said in Lack of Left handed hitting catchers:
@hegone44 said in Lack of Left handed hitting catchers:
The topic of this thread is why baseball folks have been saying that the most draftable profile in baseball, after LHP, is LHH Catcher. The fact that you're clamoring for Brian F'ing McCann is evidence enough that there haven't really been a lot of great catchers period, let alone ones who hit left-handed. The only one in my lifetime is Joe Mauer.
And the only other ones I can think of are McCann, Pierzynski, and Alex Avila since the mid 2000s. A lot of people hype up Mauer to be a lot better than he really was just because he was truly the only elite catcher in that era until Posey and Yadi came along. If Piazza and Pudge played 1B instead of Catcher neither of them would be in the HOF because of their alleged steroid use IMO. That's how weak the catcher position has been throughout the years
Mauer was a 3 time batting champ, and an MVP, before he started getting injured...and he could move, and had a cannon. He was far better than Posey or Molina, and I'd argue he was on a trajectory to be mentioned with the likes of Bench, Berra, and Pudge if it weren't for the injuries.
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@hegone44 said in Lack of Left handed hitting catchers:
@the_dragon1912 said in Lack of Left handed hitting catchers:
@hegone44 said in Lack of Left handed hitting catchers:
The topic of this thread is why baseball folks have been saying that the most draftable profile in baseball, after LHP, is LHH Catcher. The fact that you're clamoring for Brian F'ing McCann is evidence enough that there haven't really been a lot of great catchers period, let alone ones who hit left-handed. The only one in my lifetime is Joe Mauer.
And the only other ones I can think of are McCann, Pierzynski, and Alex Avila since the mid 2000s. A lot of people hype up Mauer to be a lot better than he really was just because he was truly the only elite catcher in that era until Posey and Yadi came along. If Piazza and Pudge played 1B instead of Catcher neither of them would be in the HOF because of their alleged steroid use IMO. That's how weak the catcher position has been throughout the years
Mauer was a 3 time batting champ, and an MVP, before he started getting injured...and he could move, and had a cannon. He was far better than Posey or Molina, and I'd argue he was on a trajectory to be mentioned with the likes of Bench, Berra, and Pudge if it weren't for the injuries.
Based on that logic you must consider LeMahieu and Altuve among the top 2B of all time yes? Both have had very similar careers to Mauers(even if you completely disregard Altuve's 2017 season), at an equally weak position throughout history
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@the_dragon1912 said in Lack of Left handed hitting catchers:
@hegone44 said in Lack of Left handed hitting catchers:
The topic of this thread is why baseball folks have been saying that the most draftable profile in baseball, after LHP, is LHH Catcher. The fact that you're clamoring for Brian F'ing McCann is evidence enough that there haven't really been a lot of great catchers period, let alone ones who hit left-handed. The only one in my lifetime is Joe Mauer.
And the only other ones I can think of are McCann, Pierzynski, and Alex Avila since the mid 2000s. A lot of people hype up Mauer to be a lot better than he really was just because he was truly the only elite catcher in that era until Posey and Yadi came along. If Piazza and Pudge played 1B instead of Catcher neither of them would be in the HOF because of their alleged steroid use IMO. That's how weak the catcher position has been throughout the years
Piazza makes sense because he was strictly an offensive threat at catcher. Pudge though, he is HOF worthy on his defensive abilities as much as his offense. Probably even more, due to his defense. I disagree that he wouldnt be in, even with the alleged steroid use.
To add another HOF catcher that can hit lefty, Ted Simmons.
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Pudge has more gold gloves than anybody not named Maddux, Brooks or Ozzie.
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@the_dragon1912 said in Lack of Left handed hitting catchers:
If Piazza and Pudge played 1B instead of Catcher neither of them would be in the HOF
Stats of the average 1B HOFer:
AVG: .300
OBP: .370
SLG: .505
HR: 300Piazza's stats:
AVG: .308
OBP: .377
SLG: .545
HR: 427 -
@SaveFarris said in Lack of Left handed hitting catchers:
@the_dragon1912 said in Lack of Left handed hitting catchers:
If Piazza and Pudge played 1B instead of Catcher neither of them would be in the HOF
Stats of the average 1B HOFer:
AVG: .300
OBP: .370
SLG: .505
HR: 300Piazza's stats:
AVG: .308
OBP: .377
SLG: .545
HR: 427I hear you, but Piazza and Pudge were both linked to steroids, and that was my main argument. They aren't in the hall if they weren't catchers. I just don't like how HOF voters can decide which steroid users are worthy of the hall and which aren't, even though they weren't an illegal substance when they used them, well they were but testing wasn't around then
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@the_dragon1912 said in Lack of Left handed hitting catchers:
@SaveFarris said in Lack of Left handed hitting catchers:
@the_dragon1912 said in Lack of Left handed hitting catchers:
If Piazza and Pudge played 1B instead of Catcher neither of them would be in the HOF
Stats of the average 1B HOFer:
AVG: .300
OBP: .370
SLG: .505
HR: 300Piazza's stats:
AVG: .308
OBP: .377
SLG: .545
HR: 427I hear you, but Piazza and Pudge were both linked to steroids, and that was my main argument. They aren't in the hall if they weren't catchers. I just don't like how HOF voters can decide which steroid users are worthy of the hall and which aren't, even though they weren't an illegal substance when they used them, well they were but testing wasn't around then
Bagwell did get in at 1b, even with the steroid allegations. Biggio at 2b as well, although there were less allegations with him.
