COD Exposed: AND WHY it matters
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@Lt_RebeI said in COD Exposed: AND WHY it matters:
Guess what, patents exist in COD which nerf you in real time, it's all over youtube go look it up. Like I said two months ago when I quit this game, if you dont think their is an obvious comeback logic//rigging in this game you are a noob who does not play at the higher ranks. COD is a big game, fifa has been rumored to have such things in their game. It might only get worse with all the noobs from xbox joining next year.
This...When I watched DDA exposed on Madden by a youtube user named "yo momma" the bubble burst. How Madden started having partners to help market content. They would even have a whole player profile of all your activity...what modes you played the most...even your "churn rate?" (When u tend to stop playing) Example two losses you usually quit...Ea knows this stuff. That's genius!!! Yet scary.
Long story short. I'm still playing 19. Today I faced someone who was a level 15 bronze in RS. His best player was finest ohtani..his starting pitcher....live series silver Marcus stroman....
He threw complete game. Held me to 1 run on 9 hits with 0 k's.
He had one diamond. Finest Ohtani. I lost 6-1. Granted my opponent only struck out 7 times so I give him credit on that. Been playing the show since 2014 and 19 since it came out. This guy plays for maybe a month and can compete? With a silver live series pitcher?
That might be very appealing to your casual gamer
Nice Try Ramone
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@tomivory23 said in COD Exposed: AND WHY it matters:
@Lt_RebeI said in COD Exposed: AND WHY it matters:
Guess what, patents exist in COD which nerf you in real time, it's all over youtube go look it up. Like I said two months ago when I quit this game, if you dont think their is an obvious comeback logic//rigging in this game you are a noob who does not play at the higher ranks. COD is a big game, fifa has been rumored to have such things in their game. It might only get worse with all the noobs from xbox joining next year.
This...When I watched DDA exposed on Madden by a youtube user named "yo momma" the bubble burst. How Madden started having partners to help market content. They would even have a whole player profile of all your activity...what modes you played the most...even your "churn rate?" (When u tend to stop playing) Example two losses you usually quit...Ea knows this stuff. That's genius!!! Yet scary.
Long story short. I'm still playing 19. Today I faced someone who was a level 15 bronze in RS. His best player was finest ohtani..his starting pitcher....live series silver Marcus stroman....
He threw complete game. Held me to 1 run on 9 hits with 0 k's.
He had one diamond. Finest Ohtani. I lost 6-1. Granted my opponent only struck out 7 times so I give him credit on that. Been playing the show since 2014 and 19 since it came out. This guy plays for maybe a month and can compete? With a silver live series pitcher?
That might be very appealing to your casual gamer
Nice Try Ramone
I'm guessing your opponent was a very skilled, very seasoned player who started a second account.
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@EvylShaun said in COD Exposed: AND WHY it matters:
@Lt_RebeI said in COD Exposed: AND WHY it matters:
Guess what, patents exist in COD which nerf you in real time, it's all over youtube go look it up. Like I said two months ago when I quit this game, if you dont think their is an obvious comeback logic//rigging in this game you are a noob who does not play at the higher ranks. COD is a big game, fifa has been rumored to have such things in their game. It might only get worse with all the noobs from xbox joining next year.
EA has a patent for what they like to call Dynamic Difficulty Adjustment (or DDA for short) and they were found using it in online play to help balance what should be lopsided games.
I was an avid NHL series player for years. We in the community always suspected some kind of rubber banding (which we oh so lovingly called 'ice tilt') but it was impossible to pin point and prove. It's more a feeling you get where all of a sudden it all goes to hell. Anyways....
EA was always extremely active on the NHL ultimate team reddit and their reps always denied any form of ice tilt or balancing coding being in their games. That is until the day this info came out. Suddenly the EA reps all became ghosts, hardly interacting and wouldn't ever respond to anything that remotely involved DDA.
The biggest issue I find with this whole thing is that there's microtransactions and real money at play here in the form of packs. I have always been free to play, but the point is you could sink thousands of dollars into your team and have all the highest rated cards, only to have a squad full bronze players win every puck battle, come from behind and beat you in a foot race, and snipe bar down every time they shoot while your goalie flubs every easy shot.
Sure, the better cards don't make up for lack of skill. A top tier player will win more often than not regardless of the cards, especially in traditional sports games where more than just a pitcher and batter are involved in majority of the battles. But those cards should give you an advantage if you choose to purchase them. Having that advantage taken away defeats the purpose of having the advantage in the first place.
On the flip side, I 100% understand the logic from game developers. Having a new player get rocked 10-0 every game isn't going to make them want to keep playing, let alone spend extra money. But if you can have a player with a much worse team keep things competitive against a god squad, you might just convince them to shell out some real world money to buy that missing piece the player believes will get them over the hump.
I get it, I just don't like it.
I've always played Franchise Mode in NHL. I decided to try HUT this year mainly against the CPU (solo challenges) It amazes me how I have a mission to score let say 4 goals in two minute periods, but I can't and my offense is a high 90, and the CPU goalie is a 64 overall.
I've only played a couple of HUT Rival games, and got destroyed each game. I think three games I gave up a total of 25 goals, and scored 3 goals. -
My biggest complaint about COD and many other multi-player games is the SBMM or "Skill Based Match-Making". Basically regardless of your skill level, they will make sure you end up with the same boring stats regardless of how well or poorly you play...or how much you improve. I loved getting into lobbies with professional quick scopers and "B" flag campers because even though I got destroyed, I learned to get better much quicker.
What attracted me to those games in the past, before strict SBMM, was the un-predictability and the organic lobbys. Now it's just like blah and boring after a few games. Also, I hate that they break up the lobbys every other game. I used to love the rivalries that were naturally created throughout my gaming sessions in the evenings from day to day. -
@EvylShaun said in COD Exposed: AND WHY it matters:
@tomivory23 said in COD Exposed: AND WHY it matters:
@Lt_RebeI said in COD Exposed: AND WHY it matters:
Guess what, patents exist in COD which nerf you in real time, it's all over youtube go look it up. Like I said two months ago when I quit this game, if you dont think their is an obvious comeback logic//rigging in this game you are a noob who does not play at the higher ranks. COD is a big game, fifa has been rumored to have such things in their game. It might only get worse with all the noobs from xbox joining next year.
This...When I watched DDA exposed on Madden by a youtube user named "yo momma" the bubble burst. How Madden started having partners to help market content. They would even have a whole player profile of all your activity...what modes you played the most...even your "churn rate?" (When u tend to stop playing) Example two losses you usually quit...Ea knows this stuff. That's genius!!! Yet scary.
Long story short. I'm still playing 19. Today I faced someone who was a level 15 bronze in RS. His best player was finest ohtani..his starting pitcher....live series silver Marcus stroman....
He threw complete game. Held me to 1 run on 9 hits with 0 k's.
He had one diamond. Finest Ohtani. I lost 6-1. Granted my opponent only struck out 7 times so I give him credit on that. Been playing the show since 2014 and 19 since it came out. This guy plays for maybe a month and can compete? With a silver live series pitcher?
That might be very appealing to your casual gamer
Nice Try Ramone
I'm guessing your opponent was a very skilled, very seasoned player who started a second account.
Nice try intern
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@jz2016cubs said in COD Exposed: AND WHY it matters:
@Ikasnu said in COD Exposed: AND WHY it matters:
@JediOfArgonath said in COD Exposed: AND WHY it matters:
COD, DDA, Comeback logic...Whatever you want to call it is real & in all sports games. The companies won’t come out & advertise it but it’s there in the fine print. Business wise it makes total sense. If people lose three in a row & then win 3 in a row they’ll keep playing & spending...The goal is to keep players around .500...If they lose 20 in a row they’ll lose interest & move on to other games.
Its annoying af.
Like me?
You're not annoying at all mate.
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@Ikasnu said in COD Exposed: AND WHY it matters:
@jz2016cubs said in COD Exposed: AND WHY it matters:
@Ikasnu said in COD Exposed: AND WHY it matters:
@JediOfArgonath said in COD Exposed: AND WHY it matters:
COD, DDA, Comeback logic...Whatever you want to call it is real & in all sports games. The companies won’t come out & advertise it but it’s there in the fine print. Business wise it makes total sense. If people lose three in a row & then win 3 in a row they’ll keep playing & spending...The goal is to keep players around .500...If they lose 20 in a row they’ll lose interest & move on to other games.
Its annoying af.
Like me?
You're not annoying at all mate.
My siblings would say otherwise...
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@Jeviduty said in COD Exposed: AND WHY it matters:
@JediOfArgonath said in COD Exposed: AND WHY it matters:
@Ikasnu said in COD Exposed: AND WHY it matters:
@JediOfArgonath said in COD Exposed: AND WHY it matters:
COD, DDA, Comeback logic...Whatever you want to call it is real & in all sports games. The companies won’t come out & advertise it but it’s there in the fine print. Business wise it makes total sense. If people lose three in a row & then win 3 in a row they’ll keep playing & spending...The goal is to keep players around .500...If they lose 20 in a row they’ll lose interest & move on to other games.
Its the same concept as rubber banding in racing games. Its annoying af.
Yeah..But it won’t stop any of us from playing. People like to get worked up about it but nobody will actually stop playing.
I'm one of those guys that won't be here next year..I'm going to keep my word, I'm over it...but I'll play this game cycle out. Once the PS5 game library expands I'm out
Great. First Covid, now this. My year is officially ruined.
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@CalisGW said in COD Exposed: AND WHY it matters:
You do realize that Madden is on the PC right ? People have dissected that programming for the last 2 years and have found no evidence of DDA getting applied to online games.
You hate to admit it, but it’s all confirmation bias. All of you are circle j$&(;; each other.
I loveeee on how one poster said “ they have yet to prove otherwise “. That is along the lines of “ when did you stop beating your wife”. It’s on the accuser to prove the defender did something wrong. Not the other way around.
Either way, The Show will be on PC next year and people will dissect it and put this question to bed.
Only reason it seems that there is DDA in show is because of clutch ratings. Which kicks in the last 3 innings of a game. It was posted somewhere the exact times and situations it kicks in. Think of it as Rally Monkey quirk that Machado finest card has.
Are you sure it will be on PC? I hope tonapp that is holy it's not. I can only imagine the hacking situation well have to deal with.
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@xElRojo44x said in COD Exposed: AND WHY it matters:
My biggest complaint about COD and many other multi-player games is the SBMM or "Skill Based Match-Making". Basically regardless of your skill level, they will make sure you end up with the same boring stats regardless of how well or poorly you play...or how much you improve. I loved getting into lobbies with professional quick scopers and "B" flag campers because even though I got destroyed, I learned to get better much quicker.
What attracted me to those games in the past, before strict SBMM, was the un-predictability and the organic lobbys. Now it's just like blah and boring after a few games. Also, I hate that they break up the lobbys every other game. I used to love the rivalries that were naturally created throughout my gaming sessions in the evenings from day to day.I could not agree more with this post. Been playing Cold War and my biggest complaint is the disbanding lobbies (and the horrible launcher double kill challenge). It used to be so good when you’d get into a lobby that guys were just chill and played a fun game. Could stay in that lobby for a while and possibly add a guy that was good to play with. Now it’s one and done and off to a newer, crappier lobby. Not only that, but it takes forever to find lobbies because they’re trying to find people at the same skill level. What’s so bad about putting me in the next lobby with the best connection and I can decide for myself if I want to stay in there? They’re taking the fun out of it and making every match seem like a grind. I’d much rather lose against awesome players who aren’t ignorant and rude than play against people who I beat up on and are toxic. I can always leave a toxic lobby. I’d just like to be able to stay in good lobbies.
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@tomivory23 said in COD Exposed: AND WHY it matters:
@EvylShaun said in COD Exposed: AND WHY it matters:
@tomivory23 said in COD Exposed: AND WHY it matters:
@Lt_RebeI said in COD Exposed: AND WHY it matters:
Guess what, patents exist in COD which nerf you in real time, it's all over youtube go look it up. Like I said two months ago when I quit this game, if you dont think their is an obvious comeback logic//rigging in this game you are a noob who does not play at the higher ranks. COD is a big game, fifa has been rumored to have such things in their game. It might only get worse with all the noobs from xbox joining next year.
This...When I watched DDA exposed on Madden by a youtube user named "yo momma" the bubble burst. How Madden started having partners to help market content. They would even have a whole player profile of all your activity...what modes you played the most...even your "churn rate?" (When u tend to stop playing) Example two losses you usually quit...Ea knows this stuff. That's genius!!! Yet scary.
Long story short. I'm still playing 19. Today I faced someone who was a level 15 bronze in RS. His best player was finest ohtani..his starting pitcher....live series silver Marcus stroman....
He threw complete game. Held me to 1 run on 9 hits with 0 k's.
He had one diamond. Finest Ohtani. I lost 6-1. Granted my opponent only struck out 7 times so I give him credit on that. Been playing the show since 2014 and 19 since it came out. This guy plays for maybe a month and can compete? With a silver live series pitcher?
That might be very appealing to your casual gamer
Nice Try Ramone
I'm guessing your opponent was a very skilled, very seasoned player who started a second account.
Nice try intern
Lmao. Salty much? You've gone from having an almost legitimate complaint to simply being a cry baby when perfectly reasonable explanations are given.
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@tomivory23 said in COD Exposed: AND WHY it matters:
@Lt_RebeI said in COD Exposed: AND WHY it matters:
Guess what, patents exist in COD which nerf you in real time, it's all over youtube go look it up. Like I said two months ago when I quit this game, if you dont think their is an obvious comeback logic//rigging in this game you are a noob who does not play at the higher ranks. COD is a big game, fifa has been rumored to have such things in their game. It might only get worse with all the noobs from xbox joining next year.
This...When I watched DDA exposed on Madden by a youtube user named "yo momma" the bubble burst. How Madden started having partners to help market content. They would even have a whole player profile of all your activity...what modes you played the most...even your "churn rate?" (When u tend to stop playing) Example two losses you usually quit...Ea knows this stuff. That's genius!!! Yet scary.
Long story short. I'm still playing 19. Today I faced someone who was a level 15 bronze in RS. His best player was finest ohtani..his starting pitcher....live series silver Marcus stroman....
He threw complete game. Held me to 1 run on 9 hits with 0 k's.
He had one diamond. Finest Ohtani. I lost 6-1. Granted my opponent only struck out 7 times so I give him credit on that. Been playing the show since 2014 and 19 since it came out. This guy plays for maybe a month and can compete? With a silver live series pitcher?
That might be very appealing to your casual gamer
Nice Try Ramone
Before I got 20 recently, I made an alt account on 19 and started from scratch. I jumped online pretty quickly and beat a few opponents with mostly silver and gold teams because I knew what I was doing. The divide between some silver and diamond cards is not as big as some people think, especially if their overall rating is taken down by defense or if they have great swings (like LS Mondesi).
I'm not saying your opponent was definitely a seasoned vet, but you being legitimately beaten by a better player with worse cards isn't that difficult to believe.
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It's also worth mentioning that since getting 20 last month, I'm 21-1 in ranked. I'm sure some of my opponents were annoyed that a bronze / silver level player was keeping up with their all prestige squads, but I've been playing DD for years. Ranking means nothing. You never know who is actually on the other end of that connection.
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@JediOfArgonath said in COD Exposed: AND WHY it matters:
COD, DDA, Comeback logic...Whatever you want to call it is real & in all sports games. The companies won’t come out & advertise it but it’s there in the fine print. Business wise it makes total sense. If people lose three in a row & then win 3 in a row they’ll keep playing & spending...The goal is to keep players around .500...If they lose 20 in a row they’ll lose interest & move on to other games.
So if this is true how do explain pitching rebel having a 650-50 record. Or some of the other top guys. Even my record is good at 73-19. Its not on par with the top guys but it’s hardly a .500 record. This just doesn’t make sense if you ask me.
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This game has so many issues. Early is better then perfect is my top two issues next to pitching. But SDS shows they don’t care
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@KILLERPRESENCE4 said in COD Exposed: AND WHY it matters:
@JediOfArgonath said in COD Exposed: AND WHY it matters:
COD, DDA, Comeback logic...Whatever you want to call it is real & in all sports games. The companies won’t come out & advertise it but it’s there in the fine print. Business wise it makes total sense. If people lose three in a row & then win 3 in a row they’ll keep playing & spending...The goal is to keep players around .500...If they lose 20 in a row they’ll lose interest & move on to other games.
So if this is true how do explain pitching rebel having a 650-50 record. Or some of the other top guys. Even my record is good at 73-19. Its not on par with the top guys but it’s hardly a .500 record. This just doesn’t make sense if you ask me.
You don’t understand. It’s because Rebel sucks so bad, DDA is always on his side. It’s well known he’s one of the worst players year in, year out
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@KILLERPRESENCE4 said in COD Exposed: AND WHY it matters:
@JediOfArgonath said in COD Exposed: AND WHY it matters:
COD, DDA, Comeback logic...Whatever you want to call it is real & in all sports games. The companies won’t come out & advertise it but it’s there in the fine print. Business wise it makes total sense. If people lose three in a row & then win 3 in a row they’ll keep playing & spending...The goal is to keep players around .500...If they lose 20 in a row they’ll lose interest & move on to other games.
So if this is true how do explain pitching rebel having a 650-50 record. Or some of the other top guys. Even my record is good at 73-19. Its not on par with the top guys but it’s hardly a .500 record. This just doesn’t make sense if you ask me.
Because you & him are elite players. You are not in danger of going on a losing streak & walking away from the game. The coding is designed to keep the average majority interested which constitutes 80% of the player base. Go take a look at the overall records of players in DD & MUT. 80% of the player base are in the 45-55% win percentage.
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Theres no doubt in my mind this is true don't have to see any video on YouTube. Starts after the 6th inning like clockwork every [censored] time almost
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Ea has the DDA. I feel like the Show is much more rng. Which means even if you have a perfect perfect or good pitcher input it won't always result in a positive outcome. This more or less punishes the better players or player with better teams so in a way it is DDA.
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@DeFCruE021923 said in COD Exposed: AND WHY it matters:
Theres no doubt in my mind this is true don't have to see any video on YouTube. Starts after the 6th inning like clockwork every [censored] time almost
It’s called clutch rating on the cards. They even said it starts in last 3 innings in the game and also other situations like runner in scoring position and 2 outs.
Smh, actually think/read before posting.
