The three features that received the most L's in todays stream
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@omegaminus_sk said in The three features that received the most L's in todays stream:
I only caught a tiny part of the stream, but I did see them talking about the prestige diamonds and how they were using them to respond to the requests for the return of some of the stat grinds. Except that in my experience, 95+% of the people asking for stat grinds were offline players looking for more to do than just play Conquest over and over.
As someone looking for better things to do with my DD collection without having to play H2H, was there anything new in this stream?
Nope. DD has a Destiny problem for offline players: "Lots of content and none of it matters."
The game plays like dogshvt online and SDS continually trying to push folks towards the borderline broken H2H modes, at least in relation to the offline portion, is going to catch up to them eventually.
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It looks like there's the ability to do the Evolution programs (the new rookie-to-prime) offline, but that's a small thing. Still no meaningful 9-inning single-player DD games with your collection.
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@omegaminus_sk said in The three features that received the most L's in todays stream:
I only caught a tiny part of the stream, but I did see them talking about the prestige diamonds and how they were using them to respond to the requests for the return of some of the stat grinds. Except that in my experience, 95+% of the people asking for stat grinds were offline players looking for more to do than just play Conquest over and over.
As someone looking for better things to do with my DD collection without having to play H2H, was there anything new in this stream?
Spot on about the stat missions. SDS completely missed the point of why people wanted them.
A lot of the stuff from the stream seems cool, but a lot of it left me with a bad feeling.
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@Dolenz said in The three features that received the most L's in todays stream:
- Prestige Diamonds can only be earned by grinding stats online
- If you collect a card then that card is completely unsellable. No quick selling.
- Three Batter minimum applies in BR (I don't play BR and this seems extreme even to me)
Overall, I loved all the new stuff and it pushed me forward to pre-order. The first one is really the only one that kind of tilted me a little.
- grinding stats online makes me very hawny
as long as they can fix those issues of dashboarding then its all good in da hood lets go baby
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@Dolenz said in The three features that received the most L's in todays stream:
@GradektheBard said in The three features that received the most L's in todays stream:
@nflman2033 said in The three features that received the most L's in todays stream:
@abbyspapa said in The three features that received the most L's in todays stream:
@Dolenz said in The three features that received the most L's in todays stream:
- Prestige Diamonds can only be earned by grinding stats online
- If you collect a card then that card is completely unsellable. No quick selling.
- Three Batter minimum applies in BR (I don't play BR and this seems extreme even to me)
Overall, I loved all the new stuff and it pushed me forward to pre-order. The first one is really the only one that kind of tilted me a little.
#1 is going to cause a lot more people to complain about dashboarders...
Yup, I swear you would think that they learned that on 17. So far I dont care about those 3 players, but if they have a Reds Prestige card, I'm going to be pissed.
Why, all the things were cumulative stats, not single game [censored].
Nobody wants a HR to not count on their stats because some sore loser could not wait until the ball landed to quit. The only reason to quit before the outcome of the play is completed is to penalize your opponent. That is just a childish and immature thing to do.
Yup, this.
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My issue is they spent the 1st half of the stream screaming choice, then evolution comes up and it brings back programs that are achieved through online only. That is not choice. Then prestige bosses and again online only, this is not choice. I loved everything and then they went Bungo on this content.
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@ballistic911 said in The three features that received the most L's in todays stream:
My issue is they spent the 1st half of the stream screaming choice, then evolution comes up and it brings back programs that are achieved through online only. That is not choice. Then prestige bosses and again online only, this is not choice. I loved everything and then they went Bungo on this content.
Other than Prestige bosses, what else could "only be achieved online"?
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@nflman2033 said in The three features that received the most L's in todays stream:
@ballistic911 said in The three features that received the most L's in todays stream:
My issue is they spent the 1st half of the stream screaming choice, then evolution comes up and it brings back programs that are achieved through online only. That is not choice. Then prestige bosses and again online only, this is not choice. I loved everything and then they went Bungo on this content.
Other than Prestige bosses, what else could "only be achieved online"?
Evolution cards allow your to complete programs that can only be completed grinding online only activities.
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@ballistic911 said in The three features that received the most L's in todays stream:
Evolution cards allow your to complete programs that can only be completed grinding online only activities.
It didn't appear to me that the Evolution programs required online play. The Eckersley one, for example, had the diamond reward at 50 points. Stage 1, which is all moments, gives 30 points. Stage 2 has a few options. There's an online mission for 10 points, an offline mission for 10, an exchange for 10, or a set of moments for 10. So the online mission is not required for 50.
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Wow, I missed that first part. That really annoys me. I also hate the no quickselling/exchanging locked card. Absolutely NO ONE asked for that.
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@taterracing said in The three features that received the most L's in todays stream:
Wow, I missed that first part. That really annoys me. I also hate the no quickselling/exchanging locked card. Absolutely NO ONE asked for that.
Only SDS’s wallets asked for it
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The only reason you can’t exchange or quick sell is to make people buy more cards nothing more nothing less, I don’t even really care about the quick sell thing, to me not being able to exchange locked in cards is a huge L. Basically what you have now is 40 dormant cards that you can’t do anything with, quash said people were abusing the system by locking in and exchanging, my question is how is that abusing the system? You don’t get to keep the cards after exchanging, you’re only abusing the system if the system is you have to buy more cards
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@ballistic911 said in The three features that received the most L's in todays stream:
@nflman2033 said in The three features that received the most L's in todays stream:
@ballistic911 said in The three features that received the most L's in todays stream:
My issue is they spent the 1st half of the stream screaming choice, then evolution comes up and it brings back programs that are achieved through online only. That is not choice. Then prestige bosses and again online only, this is not choice. I loved everything and then they went Bungo on this content.
Other than Prestige bosses, what else could "only be achieved online"?
Evolution cards allow your to complete programs that can only be completed grinding online only activities.
That's not true, they specifically said there was a choice, either exchanging cards, or online play in that particular thing. Online is not a requirement.
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@skepple15 said in The three features that received the most L's in todays stream:
The only reason you can’t exchange or quick sell is to make people buy more cards nothing more nothing less, I don’t even really care about the quick sell thing, to me not being able to exchange locked in cards is a huge L. Basically what you have now is 40 dormant cards that you can’t do anything with, quash said people were abusing the system by picking in and exchanging, my question is how is that abusing the system? You don’t get to keep the cards after exchanging, you’re only abusing the system if the system is you have to buy more cards
Most monthly cards weren’t worth it last year, but they really won’t be worth it this year
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@omegaminus_sk said in The three features that received the most L's in todays stream:
@ballistic911 said in The three features that received the most L's in todays stream:
Evolution cards allow your to complete programs that can only be completed grinding online only activities.
It didn't appear to me that the Evolution programs required online play. The Eckersley one, for example, had the diamond reward at 50 points. Stage 1, which is all moments, gives 30 points. Stage 2 has a few options. There's an online mission for 10 points, an offline mission for 10, an exchange for 10, or a set of moments for 10. So the online mission is not required for 50.
Yup, that is what I saw. The only online only I could see was prestige.
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@skepple15 said in The three features that received the most L's in todays stream:
The only reason you can’t exchange or quick sell is to make people buy more cards nothing more nothing less, I don’t even really care about the quick sell thing, to me not being able to exchange locked in cards is a huge L. Basically what you have now is 40 dormant cards that you can’t do anything with, quash said people were abusing the system by locking in and exchanging, my question is how is that abusing the system? You don’t get to keep the cards after exchanging, you’re only abusing the system if the system is you have to buy more cards
I mean, sure it’s an obvious money grab, but considering the quantity of free content they give out (assuming similar to 19), I’ll let this one slide.
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@ImDFC said in The three features that received the most L's in todays stream:
The collection one doesn't really bother me all that much. The Prestige Diamonds being locked behind online grinds irked me though. Online already basically had a monopoly on BR rewards, why give them another with this?
Listen fellas it's only right certain cards be obtained through online DD..It is a different mode that plays against real competition..What's wrong with having different cards for a whole different mode..Actually it's a whole different game..Def not in a controlled environment, unless you consider the room you're playing in just that..Another analogy is a game being on rails guiding you. The you play GTA and see or WOW and see a wide open world where you'll meet and go against a whole world of competition. So I see nothing wrong with having different cards and or sets I'll be grinding for the same cards you will have and building a perfect team for me to beat some real people..Not knocking off line play at all either my fellow nationers. Just saying theres another side to this game and it's only right it has access to different cards.
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It seems like with the amount of time they spent coming up with new content, they could have come up with a way to give the offline players a way to grinds for the prestige players as well. Even if it's not the same players as online, jack up the the grind and give the offline crowd a chance at similar cards.
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@KingsCountyOG718 said in The three features that received the most L's in todays stream:
@ImDFC said in The three features that received the most L's in todays stream:
The collection one doesn't really bother me all that much. The Prestige Diamonds being locked behind online grinds irked me though. Online already basically had a monopoly on BR rewards, why give them another with this?
Listen fellas it's only right certain cards be obtained through online DD..It is a different mode that plays against real competition..What's wrong with having different cards for a whole different mode..Actually it's a whole different game..Def not in a controlled environment, unless you consider the room you're playing in just that..Another analogy is a game being on rails guiding you. The you play GTA and see or WOW and see a wide open world where you'll meet and go against a whole world of competition. So I see nothing wrong with having different cards and or sets I'll be grinding for the same cards you will have and building a perfect team for me to beat some real people..Not knocking off line play at all either my fellow nationers. Just saying theres another side to this game and it's only right it has access to different cards.
I agree, you should have certain online cards. In fact, you already have them. BR Flawless cards. As stated before, the average player cannot obtain them without spending real money
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@GradektheBard said in The three features that received the most L's in todays stream:
@skepple15 said in The three features that received the most L's in todays stream:
The only reason you can’t exchange or quick sell is to make people buy more cards nothing more nothing less, I don’t even really care about the quick sell thing, to me not being able to exchange locked in cards is a huge L. Basically what you have now is 40 dormant cards that you can’t do anything with, quash said people were abusing the system by locking in and exchanging, my question is how is that abusing the system? You don’t get to keep the cards after exchanging, you’re only abusing the system if the system is you have to buy more cards
I mean, sure it’s an obvious money grab, but considering the quantity of free content they give out (assuming similar to 19), I’ll let this one slide.
MUT/FUT/HUT folks rationalize it the exact same way...
