Watch out MLB..The Marlins are coming
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@Nanthrax_1 said in Watch out MLB..The Marlins are coming:
@ItsaCanesthing said in Watch out MLB..The Marlins are coming:
Well, they're ranked 5th overall, or around there by most sites.. Braves were the best farm for a few years, and by a lot for a while, with guys like Acuna, who the Marlins have no one like that... They still have a ways to go. Nice arms though
True, but Acuna is a top 5 talent in the MLB.
The other parts are there and the Marlins have been shrewd enough to trade pitching (which they have a surplus of) for top end prospects like Jazz Chisolm and Jesus Sanchez.Considering that the Marlins had a bottom 3 minor league system for years, being top 5 is a major change.
Don't think the Marlins trading young arms for position players is over. All of the Marlins draft picks from this most recent draft were ALL pitchers. I have never heard of a team doing that before.
Well that's what I'm saying. The Braves have that depth, and lots of it, but they also had top end generational talent like Acuna.
Marlins are lacking that but have put together nice pitching depth. They still have maybe another 2 seasons with great drafts needed to go. Right track though
The Jays, Padres and Rays have that type the Braves have/had... Depth and top end talent.
You are 100% correct.
One last nail in Loria's coffin..
Can you believe that the Marlins were the ONLY team not to have an academy in the Dominican Republic until Jeter and Sherman built one?That is inexcusable.
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@ItsaCanesthing said in Watch out MLB..The Marlins are coming:
@Nanthrax_1 said in Watch out MLB..The Marlins are coming:
@ItsaCanesthing said in Watch out MLB..The Marlins are coming:
Well, they're ranked 5th overall, or around there by most sites.. Braves were the best farm for a few years, and by a lot for a while, with guys like Acuna, who the Marlins have no one like that... They still have a ways to go. Nice arms though
True, but Acuna is a top 5 talent in the MLB.
The other parts are there and the Marlins have been shrewd enough to trade pitching (which they have a surplus of) for top end prospects like Jazz Chisolm and Jesus Sanchez.Considering that the Marlins had a bottom 3 minor league system for years, being top 5 is a major change.
Don't think the Marlins trading young arms for position players is over. All of the Marlins draft picks from this most recent draft were ALL pitchers. I have never heard of a team doing that before.
Well that's what I'm saying. The Braves have that depth, and lots of it, but they also had top end generational talent like Acuna.
Marlins are lacking that but have put together nice pitching depth. They still have maybe another 2 seasons with great drafts needed to go. Right track though
The Jays, Padres and Rays have that type the Braves have/had... Depth and top end talent.
You are 100% correct.
One last nail in Loria's coffin..
Can you believe that the Marlins were the ONLY team not to have an academy in the Dominican Republic until Jeter and Sherman built one?That is inexcusable.
Ya, that is pathetic, especially for a team located in Miami. It's always amazed me how a team with such terrible management history has pulled off 2 incredible underdog championships (especially '03) in their short history...
In comparison, their expansion brother Rockies have had no such luck, and have only come remotely close once..
So many great players have passed through Miami too. Even if it's just for a year, before management boots them out after broken promises -
That little 8 run 8th I believe did the fish in.
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So many great players have passed through Miami too. Even if it's just for a year, before management boots them out after broken promises
For a while especially after 1997 it seemed like the majority of the All Star teams were former Marlins.
I know it wasn't true, but it seemed that way.1997 was built to secure a stadium and when that fell through the owner sold off the team's assets.
2003 was lightning in bottle. Built on some of the pieces of the 97 fire sale (Lee & Lowell), an Acuna like generational talent Miggy. And a Hall of Famer on a prove it deal, Pudge. The GM had the guts to trade the previous year's #1 overall pick (Adrian Gonzalez) for Ugi Urbina.
And the cigar chomping lifer Jack Mckeon tied it all together.
Dont forget Beckett, Pierre, Luis Castillo and the return of Mr. Marlin, Jeff Conine. -
@NCStateHokie said in Watch out MLB..The Marlins are coming:
That little 8 run 8th I believe did the fish in.
That was not nice
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@ItsaCanesthing said in Watch out MLB..The Marlins are coming:
So many great players have passed through Miami too. Even if it's just for a year, before management boots them out after broken promises
For a while especially after 1997 it seemed like the majority of the All Star teams were former Marlins.
I know it wasn't true, but it seemed that way.1997 was built to secure a stadium and when that fell through the owner sold off the team's assets.
2003 was lightning in bottle. Built on some of the pieces of the 97 fire sale (Lee & Lowell), an Acuna like generational talent Miggy. And a Hall of Famer on a prove it deal, Pudge. The GM had the guts to trade the previous year's #1 overall pick (Adrian Gonzalez) for Ugi Urbina.
And the cigar chomping lifer Jack Mckeon tied it all together.
Dont forget Beckett, Pierre, Luis Castillo and the return of Mr. Marlin, Jeff Conine.I remember the run they went on just to get in the postseason. Epic.. then Bartman... Then knocking off the Yankees, who just went through a dangerous Sox team to get there... Crazy year...
And don't forget Castillo and Pierre! 2 of the most valuable pieces that year. And of course Dontrelle...
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@Nanthrax_1 said in Watch out MLB..The Marlins are coming:
@ItsaCanesthing said in Watch out MLB..The Marlins are coming:
So many great players have passed through Miami too. Even if it's just for a year, before management boots them out after broken promises
For a while especially after 1997 it seemed like the majority of the All Star teams were former Marlins.
I know it wasn't true, but it seemed that way.1997 was built to secure a stadium and when that fell through the owner sold off the team's assets.
2003 was lightning in bottle. Built on some of the pieces of the 97 fire sale (Lee & Lowell), an Acuna like generational talent Miggy. And a Hall of Famer on a prove it deal, Pudge. The GM had the guts to trade the previous year's #1 overall pick (Adrian Gonzalez) for Ugi Urbina.
And the cigar chomping lifer Jack Mckeon tied it all together.
Dont forget Beckett, Pierre, Luis Castillo and the return of Mr. Marlin, Jeff Conine.I remember the run they went on just to get in the postseason. Epic.. then Bartman... Then knocking off the Yankees, who just went through a dangerous Sox team to get there... Crazy year...
And don't forget Castillo and Pierre! 2 of the most valuable pieces that year. And of course Dontrelle...
Pierre and Castillo gave the Yankees fits.
It was a very underrated team. It was a shame they were never allowed to defend their title. -
@ItsaCanesthing said in Watch out MLB..The Marlins are coming:
@Nanthrax_1 said in Watch out MLB..The Marlins are coming:
@ItsaCanesthing said in Watch out MLB..The Marlins are coming:
So many great players have passed through Miami too. Even if it's just for a year, before management boots them out after broken promises
For a while especially after 1997 it seemed like the majority of the All Star teams were former Marlins.
I know it wasn't true, but it seemed that way.1997 was built to secure a stadium and when that fell through the owner sold off the team's assets.
2003 was lightning in bottle. Built on some of the pieces of the 97 fire sale (Lee & Lowell), an Acuna like generational talent Miggy. And a Hall of Famer on a prove it deal, Pudge. The GM had the guts to trade the previous year's #1 overall pick (Adrian Gonzalez) for Ugi Urbina.
And the cigar chomping lifer Jack Mckeon tied it all together.
Dont forget Beckett, Pierre, Luis Castillo and the return of Mr. Marlin, Jeff Conine.I remember the run they went on just to get in the postseason. Epic.. then Bartman... Then knocking off the Yankees, who just went through a dangerous Sox team to get there... Crazy year...
And don't forget Castillo and Pierre! 2 of the most valuable pieces that year. And of course Dontrelle...
Pierre and Castillo gave the Yankees fits.
It was a very underrated team. It was a shame they were never allowed to defend their title.Ya true.. I gotta be honest though..
I'd have serious doubts they'd be able to take on that powerhouse Cardinals team of Pujols, Rolen and Edmonds.. and they even got destroyed by the Red Sox.. 04 was the Sox destiny..
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@Nanthrax_1 said in Watch out MLB..The Marlins are coming:
@ItsaCanesthing said in Watch out MLB..The Marlins are coming:
@Nanthrax_1 said in Watch out MLB..The Marlins are coming:
@ItsaCanesthing said in Watch out MLB..The Marlins are coming:
So many great players have passed through Miami too. Even if it's just for a year, before management boots them out after broken promises
For a while especially after 1997 it seemed like the majority of the All Star teams were former Marlins.
I know it wasn't true, but it seemed that way.1997 was built to secure a stadium and when that fell through the owner sold off the team's assets.
2003 was lightning in bottle. Built on some of the pieces of the 97 fire sale (Lee & Lowell), an Acuna like generational talent Miggy. And a Hall of Famer on a prove it deal, Pudge. The GM had the guts to trade the previous year's #1 overall pick (Adrian Gonzalez) for Ugi Urbina.
And the cigar chomping lifer Jack Mckeon tied it all together.
Dont forget Beckett, Pierre, Luis Castillo and the return of Mr. Marlin, Jeff Conine.I remember the run they went on just to get in the postseason. Epic.. then Bartman... Then knocking off the Yankees, who just went through a dangerous Sox team to get there... Crazy year...
And don't forget Castillo and Pierre! 2 of the most valuable pieces that year. And of course Dontrelle...
Pierre and Castillo gave the Yankees fits.
It was a very underrated team. It was a shame they were never allowed to defend their title.Ya true.. I gotta be honest though..
I'd have serious doubts they'd be able to take on that powerhouse Cardinals team of Pujols, Rolen and Edmonds.. and they even got destroyed by the Red Sox.. 04 was the Sox destiny..
I agree with you 100% that Sox team was awesome. I loved that team.
Pedro and Schilling (should be in the HOF), Papi and the idiots led by former Marlin Kevin Millar. -
@ItsaCanesthing said in Watch out MLB..The Marlins are coming:
@Nanthrax_1 said in Watch out MLB..The Marlins are coming:
@ItsaCanesthing said in Watch out MLB..The Marlins are coming:
@Nanthrax_1 said in Watch out MLB..The Marlins are coming:
@ItsaCanesthing said in Watch out MLB..The Marlins are coming:
So many great players have passed through Miami too. Even if it's just for a year, before management boots them out after broken promises
For a while especially after 1997 it seemed like the majority of the All Star teams were former Marlins.
I know it wasn't true, but it seemed that way.1997 was built to secure a stadium and when that fell through the owner sold off the team's assets.
2003 was lightning in bottle. Built on some of the pieces of the 97 fire sale (Lee & Lowell), an Acuna like generational talent Miggy. And a Hall of Famer on a prove it deal, Pudge. The GM had the guts to trade the previous year's #1 overall pick (Adrian Gonzalez) for Ugi Urbina.
And the cigar chomping lifer Jack Mckeon tied it all together.
Dont forget Beckett, Pierre, Luis Castillo and the return of Mr. Marlin, Jeff Conine.I remember the run they went on just to get in the postseason. Epic.. then Bartman... Then knocking off the Yankees, who just went through a dangerous Sox team to get there... Crazy year...
And don't forget Castillo and Pierre! 2 of the most valuable pieces that year. And of course Dontrelle...
Pierre and Castillo gave the Yankees fits.
It was a very underrated team. It was a shame they were never allowed to defend their title.Ya true.. I gotta be honest though..
I'd have serious doubts they'd be able to take on that powerhouse Cardinals team of Pujols, Rolen and Edmonds.. and they even got destroyed by the Red Sox.. 04 was the Sox destiny..
I agree with you 100% that Sox team was awesome. I loved that team.
Pedro and Schilling (should be in the HOF), Papi and the idiots led by former Marlin Kevin Millar.Ya, that was the most enjoyable postseason for me, non-Jays related. I was a Red Sox fan for 1 month of my life, and it was a fun month.
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Don’t forget your place in the division oh little fishy fish - chop on
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@jrbufford1 said in Watch out MLB..The Marlins are coming:
Don’t forget your place in the division oh little fishy fish - chop on
Good job scoring runs against AAA pitchers after our main lineup took you behind the woodshed.
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@ItsaCanesthing said in Watch out MLB..The Marlins are coming:
@jrbufford1 said in Watch out MLB..The Marlins are coming:
Don’t forget your place in the division oh little fishy fish - chop on
Good job scoring runs against AAA pitchers after our main lineup took you behind the woodshed.
In a warm up game lmaooooo
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@Ikasnu said in Watch out MLB..The Marlins are coming:
Atlanta isn't used to playing without fans. Marlins are. Advantage Miami
Wait, is this the same Atlanta we're talking about?
"Can't sell out a playoff game" Atlanta?
"Relocate to the middle of a Freeway interstection because our fans are too racist to drive downtown" Atlanta?
"28-3" Atlanta?
"Joe Burrow threw more TDs in the Dome last year than Matt Ryan" Atlanta?Atlanta INVENTED fan apathy. Miami is just learning from the master.
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9 runs in 2 innings with only 1 of the starting 8 on the field (Freddie) and gets walked off by a guy that got signed a day earlier! Score!
Braves Win! Braves Win!
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@MINISTRO787 said in Watch out MLB..The Marlins are coming:
All I have to say is we are going to be very good much faster than people think.
Should’ve signed Matt Adams
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@Johnny_Coletrain said in Watch out MLB..The Marlins are coming:
9 runs in 2 innings with only 1 of the starting 8 on the field (Freddie) and gets walked off by a guy that got signed a day earlier! Score!
Braves Win! Braves Win!
So you are saying that the Braves scrubs scoring 9 runs on the Marlins scrubs is a reason to celebrate?
Matt Adams is a legit professional hitter and was only available because the Mets decided that they have a surplus of DH types.The 8 run 8th came off pitchers that had ERAs of 5.77 & 6.53 last year and wont make the Marlins roster.
The walkoff was off a minor league scrub....LOL
Just remember it was 8-1 when Mattingly emptied the bench. -
@KILLERPRESENCE4 said in Watch out MLB..The Marlins are coming:
@MINISTRO787 said in Watch out MLB..The Marlins are coming:
All I have to say is we are going to be very good much faster than people think.
Should’ve signed Matt Adams
I like Adams... we basically got a RH version of him in Aguilar
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@MINISTRO787 said in Watch out MLB..The Marlins are coming:
@KILLERPRESENCE4 said in Watch out MLB..The Marlins are coming:
@MINISTRO787 said in Watch out MLB..The Marlins are coming:
All I have to say is we are going to be very good much faster than people think.
Should’ve signed Matt Adams
I like Adams... we basically got a RH version of him in Aguilar
We are fine. We need Villar, Dickerson and Aguilar to produce so we can off load them to a desperate team with pennant dreams. Keep acquiring young talent, eventually some of it will pan out.
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@ItsaCanesthing said in Watch out MLB..The Marlins are coming:
How that guy was allowed to ruin not one but 2 franchises (the Marlins will recover though) is mind boggling. I agree it's a huge win that he is finally gone.
How?
There are alot of moving parts:- Montreal didnt build Loria a stadium
- John Henry wanted out of Miami after he couldn't get a stadium
- With both Boston and Florida Available, MLB pounced.
- Loria sold the Expos to MLB, who already had a buyer lined up in the Lerners
- John Henry sold the Fish to Loria, who believed he could get the govt to build him a stadium
- John Henry being rid of the Marlins bought one of the flagship MLB franchises, The Red Sox.
MLB wanted Henry and Lerner in the fold and were willing to tolerate Loria to get them.
Loria's 1 World Series was pure luck. He fired his first manager (Torborg) and brought in McKeon and the team caught fire. It was lightning in a bottle.Remember Loria was the guy that fired Joe girardi because Joe refused to listen to his advice IN GAME!!!!
Loria absolutely blew and love what they have done with Jeter now in the drivers seat. Seems like this is what it takes nowadays, tanking, trading, and rebuilding. Astros did it just before they came over to the AL. Cubs did it before the Kris Bryant era. Being lifttime fan of the Marlins I am starting to get used to is.
Wouldnt say pure luck with the 03 win - they had an extremely solid team in front of them arguably best rotation in baseball at that time.
