Torre just confirmed
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I'm cool with it, it's a fake card in a fansty card collecting game who cares what the overall is. It will be a fun card to try out for a while then replace when we get Pizza, Bench or Pudge main cards
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@Nanthrax_1 said in Torre just confirmed:
@DriveByTrucker17 said in Torre just confirmed:
@Nanthrax_1 said in Torre just confirmed:
You guys are upset that Joe Torre (a 9 time All-Star and former MVP) has a 98 overall card in a game that has a Kevin Smith card rated 90! (The Jays 23rd best prospect).
Hardly surprising or upsetting. Torre had some big years.. and some "years" actually in the bigs...
Two wrongs don’t make a right.
FS are bad, yes.
But Torre being a 98 is just as bad.Just as bad? I don't think so. A 62.3 fWAR career with an MVP getting a 98 Sig isn't really that outrageous... A bit high? Yes.. but not 90 Kevin Smith bad..
I would have gone 95, prestige to 97.. but whatev...
Please, see edit.
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I really hope this showdown will be easy, I need those extra program points because I didn't get the voucher while I was saving up for Trout
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@ItsaCanesthing said in Torre just confirmed:
There is no way that Torre should ever be a 98 OVR.
He was a good to very good player, his three year run from 69 to 71 was impressive.
I am of the belief that cards 97 and up are for the best of the best, Hall of Fame level talent.I know this is a video game, but SDS should not pick and choose when to apply reality and when to sprinkle fairy dust on a card to boost it's ratings.
I know we have prospects and future stars and I do not like thier high ratings, but those cards are what if's and what is sports talk other than never ending what if's?
Torre's career is done, there is no what if. His numbers, his accolades and bold print stats are there..no way should he be a 98.
Give him a 94 OVR for his MVP year in 71, but that should be the top rating for him.SS cards are graded differently. They take the best attribute from every year and put it into one card. If you average his stat per 162, then yes he isn't 98 worthy. But that's not how it works
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@gavithegavster2 said in Torre just confirmed:
@ItsaCanesthing said in Torre just confirmed:
There is no way that Torre should ever be a 98 OVR.
He was a good to very good player, his three year run from 69 to 71 was impressive.
I am of the belief that cards 97 and up are for the best of the best, Hall of Fame level talent.I know this is a video game, but SDS should not pick and choose when to apply reality and when to sprinkle fairy dust on a card to boost it's ratings.
I know we have prospects and future stars and I do not like thier high ratings, but those cards are what if's and what is sports talk other than never ending what if's?
Torre's career is done, there is no what if. His numbers, his accolades and bold print stats are there..no way should he be a 98.
Give him a 94 OVR for his MVP year in 71, but that should be the top rating for him.SS cards are graded differently. They take the best attribute from every year and put it into one card. If you average his stat per 162, then yes he isn't 98 worthy. But that's not how it works
Yup. It's the opposite for the Award cards, which they jack 1 season. I'm sure this is how Ellsbury gets a 97-98 card for 2011..
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@the_dragon1912 said in Torre just confirmed:
I agree. And giving Torre(A HOFer) a 98 is fine compared to them going to be giving Elsbury a 97-98. Elsbury had one phenomenal season and was below average the rest of his career, and is probably the worst contract in history besides Bobby bonilla
FYI Torre was a Hall of Fame Manager not a HOF Player (Big diffrence).
He was an All Star caliber player for most of his career. Which makes him very good but not great. -
@Nanthrax_1 said in Torre just confirmed:
You guys are upset that Joe Torre (a 9 time All-Star and former MVP) has a 98 overall card in a game that has a Kevin Smith card rated 90! (The Jays 23rd best prospect).
Hardly surprising or upsetting. Torre had some big years.. and some "years" actually in the bigs...
I agree with you on the FS cards 100%. They are bogus what if cards that if a handful of these guys come close to these ratings I would be shocked.
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@ItsaCanesthing said in Torre just confirmed:
@the_dragon1912 said in Torre just confirmed:
I agree. And giving Torre(A HOFer) a 98 is fine compared to them going to be giving Elsbury a 97-98. Elsbury had one phenomenal season and was below average the rest of his career, and is probably the worst contract in history besides Bobby bonilla
FYI Torre was a Hall of Fame Manager not a HOF Player (Big diffrence).
He was an All Star caliber player for most of his career. Which makes him very good but not great.I realize that, but you got to give some credit to him. It really isn’t that ridiculous that Torre gets a 98
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@the_dragon1912 said in Torre just confirmed:
@ItsaCanesthing said in Torre just confirmed:
@the_dragon1912 said in Torre just confirmed:
I agree. And giving Torre(A HOFer) a 98 is fine compared to them going to be giving Elsbury a 97-98. Elsbury had one phenomenal season and was below average the rest of his career, and is probably the worst contract in history besides Bobby bonilla
FYI Torre was a Hall of Fame Manager not a HOF Player (Big diffrence).
He was an All Star caliber player for most of his career. Which makes him very good but not great.I realize that, but you got to give some credit to him. It really isn’t that ridiculous that Torre gets a 98
I guess we agree to disagree.
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@ItsaCanesthing said in Torre just confirmed:
@the_dragon1912 said in Torre just confirmed:
@ItsaCanesthing said in Torre just confirmed:
@the_dragon1912 said in Torre just confirmed:
I agree. And giving Torre(A HOFer) a 98 is fine compared to them going to be giving Elsbury a 97-98. Elsbury had one phenomenal season and was below average the rest of his career, and is probably the worst contract in history besides Bobby bonilla
FYI Torre was a Hall of Fame Manager not a HOF Player (Big diffrence).
He was an All Star caliber player for most of his career. Which makes him very good but not great.I realize that, but you got to give some credit to him. It really isn’t that ridiculous that Torre gets a 98
I guess we agree to disagree.
We simply have diffrent standards for what greatness is.I know Torre isn’t “deserving” of a 98. I just really don’t care about what the number in the corner of the card says compared to most people. I think people take a player’s overall way too seriously on here. Say you have a 98 Joe Torre, a 99 Piazza, a 99 Bench, a 96 posada, 99 Posey, a 99 Gary carter, or a 98 Yadi to choose from to play catcher. Torre will be the last choice from that list to use almost every single time. Everyones expectations are way too high when it comes to content. They aren’t going to release Babe or Jimmy Foxx this early and they aren’t going to repeat bosses from last year. I don’t like that Elsbury is very likely going to be a boss, but Torre really isn’t that bad of a choice in comparison
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@the_dragon1912 said in Torre just confirmed:
@ItsaCanesthing said in Torre just confirmed:
@the_dragon1912 said in Torre just confirmed:
@ItsaCanesthing said in Torre just confirmed:
@the_dragon1912 said in Torre just confirmed:
I agree. And giving Torre(A HOFer) a 98 is fine compared to them going to be giving Elsbury a 97-98. Elsbury had one phenomenal season and was below average the rest of his career, and is probably the worst contract in history besides Bobby bonilla
FYI Torre was a Hall of Fame Manager not a HOF Player (Big diffrence).
He was an All Star caliber player for most of his career. Which makes him very good but not great.I realize that, but you got to give some credit to him. It really isn’t that ridiculous that Torre gets a 98
I guess we agree to disagree.
We simply have diffrent standards for what greatness is.I know Torre isn’t “deserving” of a 98. I just really don’t care about what the number in the corner of the card says compared to most people. I think people take a player’s overall way too seriously on here. Say you have a 98 Joe Torre, a 99 Piazza, a 99 Bench, a 96 posada, 99 Posey, a 99 Gary carter, or a 98 Yadi to choose from to play catcher. Torre will be the last choice from that list to use almost every single time. Everyones expectations are way too high when it comes to content. They aren’t going to release Babe or Jimmy Foxx this early and they aren’t going to repeat bosses from last year. I don’t like that Elsbury is very likely going to be a boss, but Torre really isn’t that bad of a choice in comparison
It's not about playing Torre over a 99 Bench or Piazza, but rather Torre being a better card than a 96 or 97 player card, that he was never better than. 98s, and especially 99s, should be reserved for the best players in mlb history. I've been complaining about this since the potms, but it seems there aren't enough people that actually care about ratings.
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@dcmo3 said in Torre just confirmed:
@the_dragon1912 said in Torre just confirmed:
@ItsaCanesthing said in Torre just confirmed:
@the_dragon1912 said in Torre just confirmed:
@ItsaCanesthing said in Torre just confirmed:
@the_dragon1912 said in Torre just confirmed:
I agree. And giving Torre(A HOFer) a 98 is fine compared to them going to be giving Elsbury a 97-98. Elsbury had one phenomenal season and was below average the rest of his career, and is probably the worst contract in history besides Bobby bonilla
FYI Torre was a Hall of Fame Manager not a HOF Player (Big diffrence).
He was an All Star caliber player for most of his career. Which makes him very good but not great.I realize that, but you got to give some credit to him. It really isn’t that ridiculous that Torre gets a 98
I guess we agree to disagree.
We simply have diffrent standards for what greatness is.I know Torre isn’t “deserving” of a 98. I just really don’t care about what the number in the corner of the card says compared to most people. I think people take a player’s overall way too seriously on here. Say you have a 98 Joe Torre, a 99 Piazza, a 99 Bench, a 96 posada, 99 Posey, a 99 Gary carter, or a 98 Yadi to choose from to play catcher. Torre will be the last choice from that list to use almost every single time. Everyones expectations are way too high when it comes to content. They aren’t going to release Babe or Jimmy Foxx this early and they aren’t going to repeat bosses from last year. I don’t like that Elsbury is very likely going to be a boss, but Torre really isn’t that bad of a choice in comparison
It's not about playing Torre over a 99 Bench or Piazza, but rather Torre being a better card than a 96 or 97 player card, that he was never better than. 98s, and especially 99s, should be reserved for the best players in mlb history. I've been complaining about this since the potms, but it seems there aren't enough people that actually care about ratings.
“BuT iT’s A fAnTasY mOdE”
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@dcmo3 said in Torre just confirmed:
@the_dragon1912 said in Torre just confirmed:
@ItsaCanesthing said in Torre just confirmed:
@the_dragon1912 said in Torre just confirmed:
@ItsaCanesthing said in Torre just confirmed:
@the_dragon1912 said in Torre just confirmed:
I agree. And giving Torre(A HOFer) a 98 is fine compared to them going to be giving Elsbury a 97-98. Elsbury had one phenomenal season and was below average the rest of his career, and is probably the worst contract in history besides Bobby bonilla
FYI Torre was a Hall of Fame Manager not a HOF Player (Big diffrence).
He was an All Star caliber player for most of his career. Which makes him very good but not great.I realize that, but you got to give some credit to him. It really isn’t that ridiculous that Torre gets a 98
I guess we agree to disagree.
We simply have diffrent standards for what greatness is.I know Torre isn’t “deserving” of a 98. I just really don’t care about what the number in the corner of the card says compared to most people. I think people take a player’s overall way too seriously on here. Say you have a 98 Joe Torre, a 99 Piazza, a 99 Bench, a 96 posada, 99 Posey, a 99 Gary carter, or a 98 Yadi to choose from to play catcher. Torre will be the last choice from that list to use almost every single time. Everyones expectations are way too high when it comes to content. They aren’t going to release Babe or Jimmy Foxx this early and they aren’t going to repeat bosses from last year. I don’t like that Elsbury is very likely going to be a boss, but Torre really isn’t that bad of a choice in comparison
It's not about playing Torre over a 99 Bench or Piazza, but rather Torre being a better card than a 96 or 97 player card, that he was never better than. 98s, and especially 99s, should be reserved for the best players in mlb history. I've been complaining about this since the potms, but it seems there aren't enough people that actually care about ratings.
Thats because the last time that 98s and 99s were reserved for the all-time greats was the immortals in 18. There is only so many all time greats they have the rights to. Do you want to face the same lineup every single game?
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I love it. That 93 Torre last year was criminally overlooked.
Seems like SDS is making up for some of their mistakes in 2019. Carter and Torre both deserved SS cards and never got them, so they made them bosses this year. And they gave us a free chipper after last year’s outrage.
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The rating metrics in this game just keeps getting worse, there is no logic whatsoever.
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@the_dragon1912 said in Torre just confirmed:
@ItsaCanesthing said in Torre just confirmed:
@the_dragon1912 said in Torre just confirmed:
@ItsaCanesthing said in Torre just confirmed:
@the_dragon1912 said in Torre just confirmed:
I agree. And giving Torre(A HOFer) a 98 is fine compared to them going to be giving Elsbury a 97-98. Elsbury had one phenomenal season and was below average the rest of his career, and is probably the worst contract in history besides Bobby bonilla
FYI Torre was a Hall of Fame Manager not a HOF Player (Big diffrence).
He was an All Star caliber player for most of his career. Which makes him very good but not great.I realize that, but you got to give some credit to him. It really isn’t that ridiculous that Torre gets a 98
I guess we agree to disagree.
We simply have diffrent standards for what greatness is.I know Torre isn’t “deserving” of a 98. I just really don’t care about what the number in the corner of the card says compared to most people. I think people take a player’s overall way too seriously on here. Say you have a 98 Joe Torre, a 99 Piazza, a 99 Bench, a 96 posada, 99 Posey, a 99 Gary carter, or a 98 Yadi to choose from to play catcher. Torre will be the last choice from that list to use almost every single time. Everyones expectations are way too high when it comes to content. They aren’t going to release Babe or Jimmy Foxx this early and they aren’t going to repeat bosses from last year. I don’t like that Elsbury is very likely going to be a boss, but Torre really isn’t that bad of a choice in comparison
Ellsbury was genuinely great that year, did you even look? Dude put up numbers that have been some of the best ever to not win an MVP in the past two decades
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@SchnauzerFace said in Torre just confirmed:
I love it. That 93 Torre last year was criminally overlooked.
Seems like SDS is making up for some of their mistakes in 2019. Carter and Torre both deserved SS cards and never got them, so they made them bosses this year. And they gave us a free chipper after last year’s outrage.
Don’t bring up Joe Carter again, I don’t want to start the whole argument again but he was just barely above average
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@FranklinSabers16 said in Torre just confirmed:
@the_dragon1912 said in Torre just confirmed:
@ItsaCanesthing said in Torre just confirmed:
@the_dragon1912 said in Torre just confirmed:
@ItsaCanesthing said in Torre just confirmed:
@the_dragon1912 said in Torre just confirmed:
I agree. And giving Torre(A HOFer) a 98 is fine compared to them going to be giving Elsbury a 97-98. Elsbury had one phenomenal season and was below average the rest of his career, and is probably the worst contract in history besides Bobby bonilla
FYI Torre was a Hall of Fame Manager not a HOF Player (Big diffrence).
He was an All Star caliber player for most of his career. Which makes him very good but not great.I realize that, but you got to give some credit to him. It really isn’t that ridiculous that Torre gets a 98
I guess we agree to disagree.
We simply have diffrent standards for what greatness is.I know Torre isn’t “deserving” of a 98. I just really don’t care about what the number in the corner of the card says compared to most people. I think people take a player’s overall way too seriously on here. Say you have a 98 Joe Torre, a 99 Piazza, a 99 Bench, a 96 posada, 99 Posey, a 99 Gary carter, or a 98 Yadi to choose from to play catcher. Torre will be the last choice from that list to use almost every single time. Everyones expectations are way too high when it comes to content. They aren’t going to release Babe or Jimmy Foxx this early and they aren’t going to repeat bosses from last year. I don’t like that Elsbury is very likely going to be a boss, but Torre really isn’t that bad of a choice in comparison
Ellsbury was genuinely great that year, did you even look? Dude put up numbers that have been some of the best ever to not win an MVP in the past two decades
Yeah and he is the straight up definition of a one year wonder and both of the fanbases he played for hate him. They could have easily just stuck with the 91 overall or whatever allstar card he gets for that season every year
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It's a signature card fro Torre so it is cherry picked stats from any year of his entire career if I remember correctly. I am certainly not going to compare it to a single year card or even a multi year card like a prime. His MVP year (1971) with St Louis was impressive (although he was a 3b that year) so when you take those stats and add in his 36 HR from 1966 and his 36 doubles from 1964 and add in his Gold Glove defensive stats from 1965 it is not hard to see how he rates a 98 as a catcher.
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@Dolenz said in Torre just confirmed:
It's a signature card fro Torre so it is cherry picked stats from any year of his entire career if I remember correctly. I am certainly not going to compare it to a single year card or even a multi year card like a prime. His MVP year (1971) with St Louis was impressive (although he was a 3b that year) so when you take those stats and add in his 36 HR from 1966 and his 36 doubles from 1964 and add in his Gold Glove defensive stats from 1965 it is not hard to see how he rates a 98 as a catcher.
Then Babe Ruth should get a 150 rated SS diamond if you include his best offensive stats and his pitching.
