Change my opinion: This game is complete trash (w/ videos)
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@MaxHarvest said in Change my opinion: This game is complete trash (w/ videos):
Why haven’t you all blocked Dbag420? Better question is why hasn’t sds banned him, he is , by far, the most toxic person on these boards. Never contributes anything but personal attacks and excessively aggressive trolling. I blocked him awhile ago and only could see he was posting because you mentioned him several times.
@Collin_SDS are you ever going to ban the Drewshbag420 guy? Spelling might be wrong, review his post history. See if he is in line with the rules of the forum
@Collin_SDS this poster is actively stalking me and harrassing me.
What have you done to add to this toxic thread and how is the OP not toxic? Or are you a hypocrite?
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The game is a mail in this year. Their focus is on the multi platform release in 2021.
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I’ve tried to explain why this game is so bad this year, it’s difficult to do, because so much is down to feel and so much feels wrong with gameplay. 1.11 has created a brand new set of problems with online play, the game still isn’t much fun or very satisfying, unless you’re a small child who uses directional hitting to hit lots of early swing home runs while your opponent lines out using zone with good input.
While the details of each of the smaller problems which make up the larger problem - Namely, the game feels awful to play - could take up several paragraphs, if not pages, the crux of the matter is that the game doesn’t make sense, doesn’t in any way favour skilled input over nonsensical random outcomes, both in terms of hitting and pitching and 1.11 exacerbated the problem massively.
Unfortunately, OP is absolutely correct that this game is, in fact, utter garbage. I don’t believe there’s any kind of patch that can save it, it’s June, give or take, so half the year and half the game are now gone. Pointless trying to fix anything now, it’s far too late. Bitterly disappointed with ‘20, if it weren’t for ‘18, it would be the worst baseball game I’ve ever played by a long, long way. -
@XAwesomeguy98X said in Change my opinion: This game is complete trash (w/ videos):
Has anyone experienced the glitch where you have runners on base and hit a ball in the gap and before they can advance, they run back towards the base they were just at? Or just me?
All the time. Even if the "Buxton" on third base has 99 speed, steal and bragg.
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The gameplay is in the worst state it’s ever been. Hitting outcomes bear no relation to the hitting system the developers described, pitching is still way too random, fielding is a disaster, and base running makes no sense at times. The content has been amazing though (especially considering no baseball is being played).
The best way to look at the show this year is like Mario Golf. While it may have baseball in the name (like Mario has golf), it really bears no resemblance to the actual sport it represents and should not be taken seriously. It can still be fun though.
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@GradektheBard said in Change my opinion: This game is complete trash (w/ videos):
The gameplay is in the worst state it’s ever been. Hitting outcomes bear no relation to the hitting system the developers described, pitching is still way too random, fielding is a disaster, and base running makes no sense at times. The content has been amazing though (especially considering no baseball is being played).
The best way to look at the show this year is like Mario Golf. While it may have baseball in the name (like Mario has golf), it really bears no resemblance to the actual sport it represents and should not be taken seriously. It can still be fun though.
Mario Golf on the NES was great. If you lined the shot up correctly and pressed the meter on time, the ball went where it was supposed to. Sadly, the technology to do that has been lost. I think it has to do with the Towel of Babel or something.
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‘17 was the last edition of diamond dynasty where user input had more of an effect than RNG. ‘18 was a mess and I don’t doubt the pop ups and artificially induced line outs with negative exit velos that plagued the game were a direct counter to the slow pitch speeds and huge PCI that we saw introduced for the first time with that edition. It was horrific, yet the RNG factors returned again in ‘19, where we saw SDS attempting to fine tune the nerfs and dice rolls to manipulate statistical outcomes to acceptable levels. It wasn’t the worst effort to date, at times the game was fun and enjoyable, but it was still a clear case of RNG trumping user input. This year, instead of dumping all that nonsense and trying to get back to what originally worked, they’ve somehow convinced themselves that they can successfully pull the wool over the eyes of experienced players with a perfect/perfect system that doesn’t do what it was promised to do, a bunch of good/okays on squared up swings and pitching that might just be the worst aspect of the whole mess. Shocking.
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@EvylShaun said in Change my opinion: This game is complete trash (w/ videos):
@DUIaintEZ said in Change my opinion: This game is complete trash (w/ videos):
I largely stopped playing because this game isn't fun. With the end of the program approaching, I've been trying to make a push to collect stars before the end of the program. In the last 24 hours, the following plays happened:
A homerun I hit that didn't even go over the wall: https://youtu.be/VJEe-SXmw74
Granderson camped under the flyball for the final out, lets it fall in letting the tying run cross the plate: https://youtu.be/PgGfy0Gdf4k
Runner takes a big turn at second, should be thrown out. SS and 2B are playing tummy sticks and nobody is covering the base for the throw behind the runner: https://youtu.be/ki4ozU8uKNU
Ozzie Albies at second commits to trampling the ball into the ground. Can't touch it, cause it might have COVID: https://youtu.be/nqbnwRH9uSc
Adelberto Mondesi (POTM) is gunned down on a very deep flyball. Doesn't touch the plate because... COVID? https://youtu.be/yTmOjkjsP3E
This doesn't include the screen shot of TYLER F'ING O'NEIL hitting a bomb over the bullpen on a CONTACT SWING with the ball NOT IN THE PCI. Same with POTM Didi, but at least he has pop. But this isn't even uncommon.
This all happened in 24 hours. I came to the conclusion... is the game is this [censored] up, why am I bothering to grind out program stars? This is beyond bad...
I submit for your approval.....
The dreaded perfect perfect 1-6-5-4-3 quadruple play in showdown.
This is my worst nightmare in showdown, and it's actually happened oh nooooooo.
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@ComebackLogic said in Change my opinion: This game is complete trash (w/ videos):
I’ve tried to explain why this game is so bad this year, it’s difficult to do, because so much is down to feel and so much feels wrong with gameplay. 1.11 has created a brand new set of problems with online play, the game still isn’t much fun or very satisfying, unless you’re a small child who uses directional hitting to hit lots of early swing home runs while your opponent lines out using zone with good input.
While the details of each of the smaller problems which make up the larger problem - Namely, the game feels awful to play - could take up several paragraphs, if not pages, the crux of the matter is that the game doesn’t make sense, doesn’t in any way favour skilled input over nonsensical random outcomes, both in terms of hitting and pitching and 1.11 exacerbated the problem massively.
Unfortunately, OP is absolutely correct that this game is, in fact, utter garbage. I don’t believe there’s any kind of patch that can save it, it’s June, give or take, so half the year and half the game are now gone. Pointless trying to fix anything now, it’s far too late. Bitterly disappointed with ‘20, if it weren’t for ‘18, it would be the worst baseball game I’ve ever played by a long, long way.What a constructive and amazing comment...nope just more whining and stupidity. No the game is not garbage. Yes the higher skilled person will win most of the time and nothing you said is true
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@Yee_its_Bean said in Change my opinion: This game is complete trash (w/ videos):
Where are all the people that rigorously defend this game everyday like nothing is wrong with it????
Yes, I haven't heard from all those SDS employees and their families paid to comment on here.
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@Red_Ted_is_back said in Change my opinion: This game is complete trash (w/ videos):
@TeamPotro said in Change my opinion: This game is complete trash (w/ videos):
@DUIaintEZ said in Change my opinion: This game is complete trash (w/ videos):
I largely stopped playing because this game isn't fun. With the end of the program approaching, I've been trying to make a push to collect stars before the end of the program. In the last 24 hours, the following plays happened:
A homerun I hit that didn't even go over the wall: https://youtu.be/VJEe-SXmw74
Granderson camped under the flyball for the final out, lets it fall in letting the tying run cross the plate: https://youtu.be/PgGfy0Gdf4k
Runner takes a big turn at second, should be thrown out. SS and 2B are playing tummy sticks and nobody is covering the base for the throw behind the runner: https://youtu.be/ki4ozU8uKNU
Ozzie Albies at second commits to trampling the ball into the ground. Can't touch it, cause it might have COVID: https://youtu.be/nqbnwRH9uSc
Adelberto Mondesi (POTM) is gunned down on a very deep flyball. Doesn't touch the plate because... COVID? https://youtu.be/yTmOjkjsP3E
This doesn't include the screen shot of TYLER F'ING O'NEIL hitting a bomb over the bullpen on a CONTACT SWING with the ball NOT IN THE PCI. Same with POTM Didi, but at least he has pop. But this isn't even uncommon.
This all happened in 24 hours. I came to the conclusion... is the game is this [censored] up, why am I bothering to grind out program stars? This is beyond bad...
I’ve noticed that something so essential like basic fundamentals are terribly wrong in this game. That only means that developers never played real ball.
What are some basic fundamentals that are wrong? Are we talking about basic fundamentals in interface design, programming or baseball gameplay?
It’s not easy to create software that is an exact replica of something that is seen in real life. If it were that easy, Skynet would have done it in 80s and we’d all be dead (all except Sarah Connor and Keith Richards).
Every year in the pre-release streams several of the devs refer to their playing experience when explaining concepts that have been added to or changed in the game. Unfortunately adding to and changing Code can sometimes yield unintended results.
I meant baseball fundamentals are just wrong in the game. That’s a fact. Anyone who has played the game would notice. I’m not saying designing a game is easy but 10 years later I was expecting a cleaner product. More refined. I mean, it is 2020, automobiles are closer to fly than developer are to put this game together.
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@ChArTeRBuS said in Change my opinion: This game is complete trash (w/ videos):
@DUIaintEZ said in Change my opinion: This game is complete trash (w/ videos):
@tylerslikewhoa said in Change my opinion: This game is complete trash (w/ videos):
It's all about the user skillz and for some a lack of
https://theshownation.com/mlb20/universal_profiles/tylerslikewhoa/game_history?page=3&
Wow I knew it wasn't the best year of MLB the show, but I didn’t realize it was Tylerslikewhoa doesn’t even want to play the game anymore bad.
If you click on DD it will refresh and show that I play as often as I can.
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@TeamPotro said in Change my opinion: This game is complete trash (w/ videos):
@Red_Ted_is_back said in Change my opinion: This game is complete trash (w/ videos):
@TeamPotro said in Change my opinion: This game is complete trash (w/ videos):
@DUIaintEZ said in Change my opinion: This game is complete trash (w/ videos):
I largely stopped playing because this game isn't fun. With the end of the program approaching, I've been trying to make a push to collect stars before the end of the program. In the last 24 hours, the following plays happened:
A homerun I hit that didn't even go over the wall: https://youtu.be/VJEe-SXmw74
Granderson camped under the flyball for the final out, lets it fall in letting the tying run cross the plate: https://youtu.be/PgGfy0Gdf4k
Runner takes a big turn at second, should be thrown out. SS and 2B are playing tummy sticks and nobody is covering the base for the throw behind the runner: https://youtu.be/ki4ozU8uKNU
Ozzie Albies at second commits to trampling the ball into the ground. Can't touch it, cause it might have COVID: https://youtu.be/nqbnwRH9uSc
Adelberto Mondesi (POTM) is gunned down on a very deep flyball. Doesn't touch the plate because... COVID? https://youtu.be/yTmOjkjsP3E
This doesn't include the screen shot of TYLER F'ING O'NEIL hitting a bomb over the bullpen on a CONTACT SWING with the ball NOT IN THE PCI. Same with POTM Didi, but at least he has pop. But this isn't even uncommon.
This all happened in 24 hours. I came to the conclusion... is the game is this [censored] up, why am I bothering to grind out program stars? This is beyond bad...
I’ve noticed that something so essential like basic fundamentals are terribly wrong in this game. That only means that developers never played real ball.
What are some basic fundamentals that are wrong? Are we talking about basic fundamentals in interface design, programming or baseball gameplay?
It’s not easy to create software that is an exact replica of something that is seen in real life. If it were that easy, Skynet would have done it in 80s and we’d all be dead (all except Sarah Connor and Keith Richards).
Every year in the pre-release streams several of the devs refer to their playing experience when explaining concepts that have been added to or changed in the game. Unfortunately adding to and changing Code can sometimes yield unintended results.
I meant baseball fundamentals are just wrong in the game. That’s a fact. Anyone who has played the game would notice. I’m not saying designing a game is easy but 10 years later I was expecting a cleaner product. More refined. I mean, it is 2020, automobiles are closer to fly than developer are to put this game together.
Cars have been mainstream for around 90 years, flying is still a fair way off; video games roughly 40 years... hopefully we will see a near polished product in 50 years or so
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@DrewshBag420 said in Change my opinion: This game is complete trash (w/ videos):
@WorstVikingEver said in Change my opinion: This game is complete trash (w/ videos):
@DUIaintEZ said in Change my opinion: This game is complete trash (w/ videos):
@DrewshBag420 said in Change my opinion: This game is complete trash (w/ videos):
@DUIaintEZ said in Change my opinion: This game is complete trash (w/ videos):
@joshjays44 said in Change my opinion: This game is complete trash (w/ videos):
Wow the nitpicking from casuals is comical, its not like you see this every game..prolly not even in 20 or 30 games. Its a video game noobs, stuff like this will happen and stuff like this needs patching...its only May....calm down and go have a hot pocket.
Did I not post all occurred in a 24h period? I'd say the only comical thing is your trolling attempts on these boards but it's more pathetic than anything. It speaks volumes about who you are and how you live your life.
Comes in with a whiney and childlike post...then calls other people trolls. Bye Felicia
Dude is 100% a troll. Look through his posts.
Drew works for SDS boards ignore him.
hahahaha tell me more about how I work for SDs....of so they are owing me money. Run along before I embarrass you yet again.
The only one you have embarrassed is yourself, enjoy your ban
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@bjd10048842 said in Change my opinion: This game is complete trash (w/ videos):
@Yee_its_Bean said in Change my opinion: This game is complete trash (w/ videos):
Where are all the people that rigorously defend this game everyday like nothing is wrong with it????
Yes, I haven't heard from all those SDS employees and their families paid to comment on here.
@skepple15
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@DUIaintEZ said in Change my opinion: This game is complete trash (w/ videos):
I largely stopped playing because this game isn't fun. With the end of the program approaching, I've been trying to make a push to collect stars before the end of the program. In the last 24 hours, the following plays happened:
A homerun I hit that didn't even go over the wall: https://youtu.be/VJEe-SXmw74
Granderson camped under the flyball for the final out, lets it fall in letting the tying run cross the plate: https://youtu.be/PgGfy0Gdf4k
Runner takes a big turn at second, should be thrown out. SS and 2B are playing tummy sticks and nobody is covering the base for the throw behind the runner: https://youtu.be/ki4ozU8uKNU
Ozzie Albies at second commits to trampling the ball into the ground. Can't touch it, cause it might have COVID: https://youtu.be/nqbnwRH9uSc
Adelberto Mondesi (POTM) is gunned down on a very deep flyball. Doesn't touch the plate because... COVID? https://youtu.be/yTmOjkjsP3E
This doesn't include the screen shot of TYLER F'ING O'NEIL hitting a bomb over the bullpen on a CONTACT SWING with the ball NOT IN THE PCI. Same with POTM Didi, but at least he has pop. But this isn't even uncommon.
This all happened in 24 hours. I came to the conclusion... is the game is this [censored] up, why am I bothering to grind out program stars? This is beyond bad...
So I'm not sure if people posting actually watched your videos, but i went through them all and I have to say these are some pretty bad examples. I get you tried to pull stuff together in 24 hours so it's what you had to work with but there's really only 1 bad thing the HR.
A fair assessment --
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Waters HR. Terrible. Bad glitch.
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Granderson fly ball. You don't understand what camped means, he's sprinting to the ball lol, then pulls up to take it on the hop because he didn't get there in time. The problem is you didn't provide us the gameplay video, but instead a replay. But based on your replay here's what likely happened in you gameplay screen -- ball is hit far away and in, Granderson is on his horse making a long ranging play, you likely got the extreme catch red indicator , couldn't get there in time, and Granderson being a 70s fielder pulls up and takes it on the hop. Nothing wrong here, could have slid to make the catch especially with backup there.
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No one covering 2B. Runner on first, SS is setup for the cutoff on a throw to 3B. You were controlling the 2B and chased the ground ball and couldn't get to it. Ball was immediately thrown in. Nothing wrong here you are just unfamiliar with how cutoffs work in baseball apparently.
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Ozzie makes a error reaching for a ball on a back hand. Ok fine. Not picking up the ball is bad, but at the end of the day didn't hurt anything because you still wouldn't have thrown him out. Glitch, yes, but no harm done. You wouldn't have made the play.
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Mondesi got tagged because you picked the wrong slide. You chose a hook slide to avoid a tag rather than just hustling in and diving straight to the plate. This is 100% user control. You are trying to avoid a tag rather than just getting to the plate.
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@notoriousHEB said in Change my opinion: This game is complete trash (w/ videos):
@DUIaintEZ said in Change my opinion: This game is complete trash (w/ videos):
I largely stopped playing because this game isn't fun. With the end of the program approaching, I've been trying to make a push to collect stars before the end of the program. In the last 24 hours, the following plays happened:
A homerun I hit that didn't even go over the wall: https://youtu.be/VJEe-SXmw74
Granderson camped under the flyball for the final out, lets it fall in letting the tying run cross the plate: https://youtu.be/PgGfy0Gdf4k
Runner takes a big turn at second, should be thrown out. SS and 2B are playing tummy sticks and nobody is covering the base for the throw behind the runner: https://youtu.be/ki4ozU8uKNU
Ozzie Albies at second commits to trampling the ball into the ground. Can't touch it, cause it might have COVID: https://youtu.be/nqbnwRH9uSc
Adelberto Mondesi (POTM) is gunned down on a very deep flyball. Doesn't touch the plate because... COVID? https://youtu.be/yTmOjkjsP3E
This doesn't include the screen shot of TYLER F'ING O'NEIL hitting a bomb over the bullpen on a CONTACT SWING with the ball NOT IN THE PCI. Same with POTM Didi, but at least he has pop. But this isn't even uncommon.
This all happened in 24 hours. I came to the conclusion... is the game is this [censored] up, why am I bothering to grind out program stars? This is beyond bad...
So I'm not sure if people posting actually watched your videos, but i went through them all and I have to say these are some pretty bad examples. I get you tried to pull stuff together in 24 hours so it's what you had to work with but there's really only 1 bad thing the HR.
A fair assessment --
Clip by clip:
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Waters HR. Terrible. Bad glitch.
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Granderson fly ball. You don't understand what camped means, he's sprinting to the ball lol, then pulls up to take it on the hop because he didn't get there in time. The problem is you didn't provide us the gameplay video, but instead a replay. But based on your replay here's what likely happened in you gameplay screen -- ball is hit far away and in, Granderson is on his horse making a long ranging play, you likely got the extreme catch red indicator , couldn't get there in time, and Granderson being a 70s fielder pulls up and takes it on the hop. Nothing wrong here, could have slid to make the catch especially with backup there.
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No one covering 2B. Runner on first, SS is setup for the cutoff on a throw to 3B. You were controlling the 2B and chased the ground ball and couldn't get to it. Ball was immediately thrown in. Nothing wrong here you are just unfamiliar with how cutoffs work in baseball apparently.
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Ozzie makes a error reaching for a ball on a back hand. Ok fine. Not picking up the ball is bad, but at the end of the day didn't hurt anything because you still wouldn't have thrown him out. Glitch, yes, but no harm done. You wouldn't have made the play.
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Mondesi got tagged because you picked the wrong slide. You chose a hook slide to avoid a tag rather than just hustling in and diving straight to the plate. This is 100% user control. You are trying to avoid a tag rather than just getting to the plate.
Re #2: The catch indicator wasn't red, you can tell how long Granderson is set and where the ball bounces it's not a close play, it's a routine flyball. From a user perspective he should have camped right under it, but the cpu animated him trying to take it side-straddled.
Re #3: It's the SS who's the cutoff in that situation. Problem is that the 2B, who really isn't in any position to keep it in the infield, just gives up after it goes by. You know as well as I do that once it gets into the outfield he still has a responsibility, but he just becomes a spectator.
Re #5: I've never manually chosen slides. Maybe I should. Years past it's never been an issue but I've seen this play happen, to me and my opponent, more frequently this year.
Re #4: After he boots it he might have a play at first still, but the not picking up the ball is buggy as hell. I've seen this happen (to myself and opponents) primarily on squibbers that stay in front of home. The catcher or pitcher never picks the ball up even though it should be an easy out. I'm positive it's a bug that happens because throwing controls are engaged, and the animations for throwing are given priority but can't be executed until he has the ball, so the player is in a state of limbo.
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"Hey gang, that's baseball" - SDS.... Maybe
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@bjd10048842 said in Change my opinion: This game is complete trash (w/ videos):
@bjd10048842 said in Change my opinion: This game is complete trash (w/ videos):
@Yee_its_Bean said in Change my opinion: This game is complete trash (w/ videos):
Where are all the people that rigorously defend this game everyday like nothing is wrong with it????
Yes, I haven't heard from all those SDS employees and their families paid to comment on here.
@skepple15
Ryan I haven't been here in like a month, it's really not healthy to care this much about what I think
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