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@DoIHearBossMusic said in MLB the RNG 20:

Has SDS ever commented on this? The fact that there is no way 'skill' your way between good/good, good/pop up and other random outcomes makes me believe that it is scripted 100%...RNG. Don't even get me started on the bs odds that are given to us. But seriously, what is this for?

SDS should comment and address to the community. There are so many questions and a lot to explain to the community but their feedback is just not existent. I personally think that they not answering our questions is just disrespectful.

How can you explain when you square many balls for routine outs but on the other hand your opponent hits a good/okay and it’s a 347949393 foot bomb.

Don’t tell me skills count in this game. Sometime the game wants you to take the L. I’ve taken undeserved Ws and they don’t feel very well to be honest.

Since day one we’ve been asking for a fully skill based game. Give me what I earn, nothing else.

@KOTANK1334 said in Game Update 1.12 Thread:

Is anyone really surprised that this is where we are at with this game? SDS has shown that it can accomplish little when they have tons of feedback from the online community. If they think the community is bad now... Just wait until the put out the same canned game they have been for the last 4 years ( excluding some minor feature and a couple new legends) to other consoles. The only way this gets fixed is if another studio comes along and drives some sort of competition which spurs innovation. Otherwise all these issues aren't going anywhere. Especially the RNG! Gotta keep all those new players engaged somehow and it sure isn't going to be because they bought a great game.

I personally think that this game is working perfectly according to SDS interests. Our idea of a quality game is not their idea of a quality game. They see quality according to the money they make.

@D_e_m_I_s_E said in Making the game the most toxic and miserable experience:

@raesONE said in Making the game the most toxic and miserable experience:

Decided to jump in some ranked today and 2 games in a row I play the most salty, toxic and miserable people in the community it seems.
Yes, I declined your friendly quit offer. You're looking for a game to play, so play.

All these guys made it their mission to make my life miserable for declining the friendly quit. Taking minutes to wind up between pitches, pausing for a minute and a half every inning, stepping off, throwing over to first base 5 times in a row while I don't even take a lead. I don't know if these shenanigans ever works out for anyone, but if anything it only gets me juiced up to absolutely obliterate you. I honestly don't understand why people are so toxic, salty and miserable. Just play the darn game man. Such a turn off to play like this every single game.

Had a guy decide to watch a replay of his two run HR Saturday which came in the top of the first. Think I ended up with 6 HR's in a 12-3 win and watched every one of them.

I get a lot fewer friendly quit requests since I tanked my RS record and quit out like 30 games so far.

There are HRs you just gotta watch. I don’t get mad for replays. I even replay the one I give up sometimes.

The game is already trash and having to deal with that doesn’t help much.

@D_e_m_I_s_E said in I really hate online play.:

@joshdcarr25 said in I really hate online play.:

I hate ranked seasons because of this. It feels like whoever has the weaker lineup gets the favored outcome. I played someone recently that had a losing record and .231 average. My average in ranked is .301. I had 16 dead or near dead center good/okays for outs and lost the game. I usually can tell early if I am going to lose when I start getting an obsessive amount of good/okay and my pitches float down the middle despite perfect input. It sucks because online play is my favorite but it's ruining it for me.

There are a ton of tell tale signs that show you will probably lose the game. If they don't exist, it is usually a very early quit for my opponent. If they are, I am either going to lose or it will be a dog fight.
Jumpy pci when hitting
Good/good+ rarely results in hits
Throw either down the middle or ball - jumpy pci when pitching
Opponents get hits on everything
Strikes on corners
Fielding blunders (quite a few different ones)
Base stealers get very poor jumps
Extra long or very slow returns when rounding a base

Pretty sure there are a few I am forgetting but when you see these signs it is best to cut bait and quit or you will get get frustrated and it is a complete waste of time. The ONLY way to win these games (which is possible) is if your opponent swings at balls outside the zone or can't hit pitches down the middle. Based on these, I can usually tell within the first 3 innings whether I am going to win. Game is extremely predictable if you pay attention to the signs.

Couldn’t agree more. You forgot the check swings. The game prevents your opponent from striking out by fouling pitches on terrible timing or bad pci work and also by check singing a lot. Usually the game buys time until you hang something and boom! Tomahawk.

@jz2016cubs said in MLB the RNG 20:

@TeamPotro said in MLB the RNG 20:

@DoIHearBossMusic said in MLB the RNG 20:

Has SDS ever commented on this? The fact that there is no way 'skill' your way between good/good, good/pop up and other random outcomes makes me believe that it is scripted 100%...RNG. Don't even get me started on the bs odds that are given to us. But seriously, what is this for?

SDS should comment and address to the community. There are so many questions and a lot to explain to the community but their feedback is just not existent. I personally think that they not answering our questions is just disrespectful.

Just wait. They might delete your comment...

Dint think so. I’m not being disrespectful and I’m not swearing. I just think they need to be more responsible and ethical when it comes to communicating with us. In fact, a lot of the disagreements that we’ve seen in this forum could’ve been avoided if they would answer our questions.

@vox_pestis said in Game Update 1.12 Thread:

@Collin_SDS In order to head off the next hundred angry posts from customers, can we get confirmation whether gameplay (not visual) updates are done for the year? If the team is already 100% moved on to 21' it would be good to know. Otherwise there will be a lot of needless speculation and arguing here that benefits no one.

This is a great question. Too bad they never answer legitimate questions. They usually appear when people swear.

It’s also harder to beat players with lower ratings. Game creates more chances and better rewards for them.

@halfbutt said in To all the people complaining about the game:

That’s all great but the good/ok happens with good swings as well.

I appreciate your positive attitude, but it is the randomization of results on good swings people are complaining about, not being unable to put good swings on the ball.

Exactly! Was going to say the same
Thing. Problem is randomization.

Unless we could practice early or late swings to get more rewarded than being on time lol

@nymets1987 said in I really hate online play.:

I have enjoyed it somewhat more since I have gotten better at the game but there are some opponents who ruin it for me

Opponents dont ruin it. RNG ruin it. I’m okay losing to someone who outplays me. Tip my hat to them. But losing when even your opponent text you telling that his swings were awful and he apologizes. That shouldn’t happen.

Please don’t work on next years version. Move aside and let some other company do the job. It is time to realize you guys have tried for many years and failed. That’s okay, that happens in life. Time to move on. We alejarte the effort.

I really hope the new game comes as advertised. Really take input into account. It is really hard to fight against a human players and the cpu at the same time. Really tired of losing games to poor input players all year. Still managed to have good record but, wow. Rewarding bad discipline, bad timing and bad input overall is a joke.

Hope you fix this in 20 and please, listen to your community. There’s no better feedback than us.

I really wish for some competition on the market for mlb the show.

@superfly2789 said in I’ll just leave this here:

Dude give it a rest already! We get it the game has issues.

It is just sad that the only solution we have is to say “the game has issues” and get used to it. Sometimes I say to my self that this is just a video game but dude, for how many years we’ve been playing mediocre versions? Don’t you think it is time already for them to put it together and give us a quality version? It is just sad that year after year we just have to settle for a mediocre gameplay because they can’t figure it out.

@Serafim42-zaphod said in I really hate online play.:

I would love to see a Ranked Seasons-type mode with 3-inning games, where you use your team. My main issue is I cannot always guarantee I can be on the couch for a 45-minute game watching my opponent click in and out of the pause screen two dozen times..

I feel you. I can’t be on the couch for 45 minutes watching my opponent’s bad input get rewarded.

@Vipersneak said in I really hate online play.:

@TeamPotro said in I really hate online play.:

@Vipersneak said in I really hate online play.:

Amazingly, really good players do not have the problem of a weaker opponent beating them. Hmmmm.

https://images.app.goo.gl/jqDcM711yQyt9Pnw5

Well their records are insanely good. So if you are losing to weaker players more than winning, then you just are not as good as you think.

All that we are discussing here happens to top players as well. Difference is, in my case even tho I have a winning record I’m not elite. So in order to compete I need the game to play fair. I can’t compete if my opponent’s bad input gets rewarded And my good input doesn’t. I can’t compete if the game forces my good releases to be down the middle.

Elite players can overcome that because they hit wayyyy above average. Go check the top players ERAs. You’ll be surprised.

@olivegarden2 said in Game fundamentals:

@TeamPotro said in Game fundamentals:

Has anyone notice the basic fundamentals of baseball are just wrong in this game. Had a play where my opponent had a man on first and he singled to centerfield. My 2B and SS went out to do the cutoff and trailer towards third base. It was a single straight at my center fielder. No need for double cutoff. Of course, the runner took a big turn and I had no chance to gun him at second when he was returning to the bag because I had no one covering the bag.

Then I had this happening. Lead off triple by boggio. Next hitter just a grounder to third and he automatically runs. Unless there’s a double play risk, which there wasn’t, he shouldn’t have run.

https://imgur.com/gallery/e0Ca0fX

Base running is something they need to fix! Most people talk about good okays but base running is a huge problem as well!

They probably need to build the whole engine from the ground.

@mrwonderful95 said in I’m thinking SZ hitting view is overrated:

Anyone else feel in this years game some of the other hitting views are more viable than SZ? I’m most likely on the older side of the player base of this game (43) and I feel like it’s terribly difficult for me to react to FBs on SZ. It seems easier to read and react on other cameras like Zoom or SZ3. I’ve been exclusively a SZ camera guy over the years but I’ve been gravitating towards Zoom recently. Anyone having success (making WS) on other cameras than just SZ? I know all of the “pros” that stream use SZ but man, it’s just so tough for me this year. I’d like to hear some success stories of people using other cameras, assuming they’re out there!

I’m thinking this whole game is overrated.

I would like to think the game doesn’t pick a winner but it is too obvious. Otherwise why would the game reward my opponents bad swings but will not reward my goods and perfects? I’m still waiting on an explanation from SDS on this. I think the lack of communication from SDS to the community is very disrespectful.

@Victor_SDS said in Update 1.11 Discussion:

Notes are here: https://theshow.gg/fcz
Set to deploy on Wednesday 5/13/2020 at 3 AM PT.

When are you guys explaining to the community why rewards are so random? Why are there so many bad swings being rewarded and so many good swings being outs? Please show some signs of intelligent life.