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@sunjah_psn said in Need a New Team: Share Opinions:

Reds, no question.

I was so mad they didn't change the Indians to the Blues. Cincinnati Reds vs. Cleveland Blues. Perfect. Not the "blues music/feeling" either, just "blues" the color. Perfectly opposite. They blew the chance horribly. Also, the Cle. Browns and the Cle. Blues. I don't get it. They actually started as the Blues for 1 season when baseball first started the AL.

I thought it was going to be Spiders, I really did. No offense to anyone, but "Guardians" just seems like a really bad choice. I think Blues would've been awesome, and Spiders okay.

I hope the Show 22 doesn't get rid of all evidence of the name like they did Chief Wahoo, as I will still have them as the Indians if the uniforms are there.

Sad moment, and it doesn't (to me) really accomplish anything but take away from the History of the Game.

They should have remained the Indians, no question. If the name was so bad, they would not have stayed the Indians a full year after the name change was announced. However, in the hypersensitive world we live in I would have had an easier time with a switch to the Spiders (and even the Blues, which I never considered, sounds like a MUCH better option) Instead, the Dolans named them after some bridge statues called The Guardians of Traffic that I don't think most people in the area knew or cared about. Now it sounds like our mascots are Traffic Officers.

Also, hate how lazy the rebranding was. They slap a "Guar" over the "In" and call it a day. If you're going to [censored] on 100+ years of history, at least go the full mile. Change the colors, the font, etc. Now it just reeks of off brand/politically correct Indians.

This thread was bumped to Off-Topic for some reason, and not really getting activity, so I'll just move it back to general discussion as this certainly fits the definition of "general discussion." (Especially if a Merry Christmas post meets the requirements haha)

With the Cleveland Indians selling out to a small but loud woke mob and our city no longer having a baseball team we can be proud of, I'm a little stuck on what to do next. With the Dolan's resetting 100+ years of history, I figure it's only logical to push reset myself. So I could use an opinion.

Here's where I'm at now. The Dolan's have tested a lot of people's loyalty since they took over for the wildly popular Jacobs brothers. We went from selling out 455 consecutive games to a team near the bottom in attendance. We are a farm team to the big markets and anytime we get some talent, we've learned to prepare for their inevitable departure. I stopped following baseball in general for several seasons when we traded Cy Young winners back to back years (C.C Sabathia and Cliff Lee). Baseball was always my favorite sport and I used to watch Baseball Tonight religiously. So hopefully that gives you an idea of how fed up I was. Now, we are rebuilding yet again AND they've unnecessarily stripped us of our beloved Indians, all in the name of hosting the All Star Game. I'd honestly rather they relocate the team completely. I think that's more than enough reason to move on from The Cleveland Baseball Team.

Currently, I'm between 3 options:

1) Cheer for the Reds. Firstly, another Ohio team. I used to go to Reds games with my Uncle who lived in Cincinnati and Ken Griffey Jr was my favorite player (followed by Adam Dunn) Would have considered them my secondary team, but haven't really followed them for quite some time and focused completely on the Indians.

2) Cheer for the Angels. I've lived in Southern California for 10 years now and figure I can finally embrace something from the area. I'm no front runner so I wouldn't choose the Dodgers. The Angels haven't been in the playoffs since 2014 and they do have a few of the most exciting players in all of baseball. So that remains an option.

3) Stop following the MLB in general. I can use the absence of baseball in my life as a way to pick up new hobbies. Rob Manfred is entering Roger Goodell territory, if not worse. Not only do I think he held a gun to Cleveland's head to get rid of Chief Wahoo and the Indians name...but he upheld Pete Rose's ban, then went on to completely botch the Astros scandal. How anyone in that organization is still allowed to be associated with Major League Baseball (not to mention their punishment of one dainty slap on the wrist) is beyond me.

It's really tough to move my loyalties elsewhere since I was invested in the Cleveland Indians my whole life. I'm not sure my heart will be in it, but doesn't seem like there's much choice in the matter. What do we think? 1, 2 or 3?

@theblindrhino said in Need Opinion: New Team:

Well the Red Sox were the last team to integrate. They sound right up your alley.

The Red Sox cheated too, right? And they've won 4 World Series' since 2004, so I can't just jump on that bandwagon. Also, virtually no ties to Boston...never even been to New England, sadly.

With the Cleveland Indians selling out to a small but loud woke mob and our city no longer having a baseball team we can be proud of, I'm a little stuck on what to do next. With the Dolan's resetting 100+ years of history, I figure it's only logical to push reset myself. So I could use an opinion.

Here's where I'm at now. The Dolan's have tested a lot of people's loyalty since they took over for the wildly popular Jacobs brothers. We went from selling out 455 consecutive games to a team near the bottom in attendance. We are a farm team to the big markets and anytime we get some talent, we've learned to prepare for their inevitable departure. I stopped following baseball in general for several seasons when we traded Cy Young winners back to back years (C.C Sabathia and Cliff Lee). Baseball was always my favorite sport and I used to watch Baseball Tonight religiously. So hopefully that gives you an idea of how fed up I was. Now, we are rebuilding yet again AND they've unnecessarily stripped us of our beloved Indians, all in the name of hosting the All Star Game. I'd honestly rather they relocate the team completely. I think that's more than enough reason to move on from The Cleveland Baseball Team.

Currently, I'm between 3 options:

1. Cheer for the Reds. Firstly, another Ohio team. I used to go to Reds games with my Uncle who lived in Cincinnati and Ken Griffey Jr was my favorite player (followed by Adam Dunn) Would have considered them my secondary team, but haven't really followed them for quite some time and focused completely on the Indians.
2. Cheer for the Angels. I've lived in Southern California for 10 years now and figure I can finally embrace something from the area. I'm no front runner so I wouldn't choose the Dodgers. The Angels haven't been in the playoffs since 2014 and they do have a few of the most exciting players in all of baseball. So that remains an option.
3. Stop following the MLB in general. I can use the absence of baseball in my life as a way to pick up new hobbies. Rob Manfred is entering Roger Goodell territory, if not worse. Not only do I think he held a gun to Cleveland's head to get rid of Chief Wahoo and the Indians name...but he upheld Pete Rose's ban, then went on to completely botch the Astros scandal. How anyone in that organization is still allowed to be associated with Major League Baseball (not to mention their punishment of one dainty slap on the wrist) is beyond me.

It's really tough to move my loyalties elsewhere since I was invested in the Cleveland Indians my whole life. I'm not sure my heart will be in it, but doesn't seem like there's much choice in the matter. What do we think? 1, 2 or 3?

@thegoaler_psn said in MLB The Show 21: End of Year Review:

No way I'm reading all of this. I don't even read books, lol.

Well sh*t. When I was writing this, the only thing I was thinking was “I hope thegoaler reads this in its entirety.” But I forgot that you’re stupid. Guess that makes me stupid too ‍️

@mjfc_363_psn said in MLB The Show 21: End of Year Review:

@dirty-shawnchez_psn said in MLB The Show 21: End of Year Review:

First bullet from What I don't Like:

To many Homeruns

Last bullet from What I don't Like:

Lack of consistency with hitting.

?????

I know right!! You caught that too! He said “waaaaay too many homers”, then goes on to say “if it’s perfect timing and amazing contact it should be a homer every time!”

Can’t have it both ways.

Misquoted me, but that’s cool…don’t think accuracy was what you were going for here. I said perfect timing/amazing contact should result in a home run or a hit (you missed that or a hit part)

As it currently stands, there’s no rhyme or reason as to why a home run was hit. Just late, early, slightly early etc. Since this is a video game we’re talking about here and not real life baseball…if I, you, or our opponent does something right (such as perfect timing and amazing contact) they deserve to be rewarded. Perfect timing and amazing contact should not result in a line out directly to the first baseman. Just like if you “green” a jump shot in nba 2k…it should result in a made basket (and it does)

@dirty-shawnchez_psn said in MLB The Show 21: End of Year Review:

First bullet from What I don't Like:

To many Homeruns

Last bullet from What I don't Like:

Lack of consistency with hitting.

?????

Too*

And yes, you read that right. Too complex?

There are too many home runs. On top of that hitting is inconsistent. A perfect-perfect swing can easily be a ground out, line out, fly out etc, as well as a home run. Why doesn't this perfect input always result in a hit? Why does early timing with less than perfect contact result in home runs? It also results in fly outs, fouls etc, but hitting results are all over the place. My theory is...this is a video game. If I do something right I should be rewarded. If I do something wrong I should be penalized. Simple as that.

If I'm playing Halo and shoot the rocket launcher at my feet I always die. However if I shoot an opponent with a rocket launcher, they always die. Good actions are rewarded, bad actions are penalized. Get it?

And I have to agree with @ChuckCLC_PSN The Show at its core is a good game that needs some polish and love...but I do agree that the huge drop off in quality I'm speaking of occurs in head to head. But let's be honest, who wants to play Diamond Dynasty exclusively single player? It's meant to be a multiplayer mode. With franchise and RTTS basically getting no love and all the updates going into Diamond Dynasty, it's inexcusable to have your product in this state.

It's basically the end of the year, but I've formed my opinion of this game a while back. Assuming this isn't your first rodeo, I think anyone who is honest with themselves will come to the same conclusion. This game is bad. It really is. I know this triggers a lot of people, but The Show is approaching Madden territory.

Let me try to condense this and give my honest opinion of what I like and what I don't like.

What I Like

• Create a Stadium was much deeper than I was expecting. I don't think it's the easiest to use, but as long as SDS keeps fine tuning it and adding more customization options (and allow for nighttime) it's in good shape.
• More variety for pitching rotations and lineups. Lots of highly ranked cards for every position so you're not always facing the same lineup.
• Crack of the bat sound on perfect contact.
• The red indicator when a fly ball is dropping fast and you may need to make a diving catch.
• Showdown is a fun addition.
• Really no need to spend money with the free rewards and packs they give you.
• Not as much "grinding" as the other sports fantasy team modes.

What I Don't Like

• Waaaaaaaay too many home runs. No one should be able to hit 5 or 6 consecutive home runs. I've had it bite me over and over again, and I've also benefitted from it.
• Random results. This is a video game. I should be punished for making a bad choice or not being quick enough to press a button or whatever else I've done wrong. I shouldn't be punished just because it was randomly generated by the game. My catcher should not overthrow the first baseman on a routine play. My shortstops shouldn't be bobbling ground balls on a routine play. I totally get that "it happens in real baseball" but this is a video game. I don't want any outside sources affecting the outcome of a game. Figure out a way to make errors a part of the game, but where they are truly your fault. When it comes to pitching, if my timing is off on the meter, my pitch shouldn't land somewhere completely random. It doesn't make sense to me that a pitch I was intending to throw down and away, lands up and in because I was slightly late. This leads me to...
• No one is playing the same way. In theory, it's nice that the game offers variety for how you pitch or bat. Problem with that in a competitive environment like Ranked Seasons is that no one is playing the same way. You may be playing a guy who is using analog hitting, meaning he only has to worry about timing. Sometimes the game doesn't reward you, sometimes it does...ultimately the results are random. Why should the player who is pitching lose to a player who is only worrying about timing? Same goes for fielding. If you think the throwing meter is the best way to make errors the players fault, make everybody play that way. Also for pitching; just because I don't have time to learn a brand new pitching scheme (pinpoint) doesn't mean my user input shouldn't matter. If pinpoint is the only method to have your input matter, then make it mandatory to pitch that way. I'm sick of the randomness. It feels like the game is not in my control and the competitive aspect is tarnished.
• Scripted OR Scripted-feeling. I know this is another one that certain people refuse to believe...but I truly believe MLB The Show (and Madden/NBA 2k) apply comeback logic, or nerfing/buffing. In the case of The Show, I honestly feel like some innings, no matter what I do, my bats will be wet noodles and my pitchers will have noodle arms. Then another inning it feels like it's been pre-determined that my bats are juiced and my pitchers are untouchable. This usually occurs late in games. I know if I'm going into the last 3 innings with a 3 run lead, there is no chance I'm keeping that lead. This is especially pronounced in 3 inning event games. I don't even know how many leads I've lost. If I took a 5 run lead in the first, my opponent scored 6. If I was up 1, my opponent would get that 1 run. I totally understand that last minute wins are exciting and all that, but it truly felt like it was by design. Once again, feeling like the competitive aspect was gone and the game was the decider of who wins or loses.
• Game altering animation gaffes. Fielders not having urgency throwing the ball, fielders not knowing how to tag runners out, baserunners slowing down mid-steal etc.
• No base running consistency. When I slide, sometimes I can slide to the left or the right of the bag, but typically my runner just dives in head first...ignoring my input. Pickoffs are random. I've had 99 speed 99 steal runners get picked off with one extra step and no steal command input. 99.99999% of the time that doesn't happen. So how does one effectively pull off a pickoff play, or how does one get back to the base safely? Or is it all just random? (answer: yes)
• Terrible matchmaking. In all the years I've played this game, I've never had a below .500 record. This year, it feels nearly impossible to win 2 games in a row. I'm consistently playing guys with records like 54-26, 16-1, 350-275 etc. I'm like 5 or 6 games below .500. I guess they're only taking "division ranking" into account, but there are too many times I've played this game and go on a 10 game losing slide. Obviously not a lot of fun. Seems like something that can be adjusted so I can play other bad players.
• Too easy to stack teams. I know this one is contradictory and probably specific to me, but I didn't think team building was that fun this year. I had an all diamond squad within like, a month...and around July they were giving everyone 30 stacked cards for free (team affinity season 3 i think it was?) I loved in The Show 17 how the diamonds truly felt special when you pulled one and had a huge impact on your team. Then halfway through the season, we get a bunch of end game cards...so now that SDS is releasing 96 overall cards, there's no use for those cards and it pretty much killed the market and any interest in live roster updates. They didn't give themselves anywhere to go.
• Graphics. Embarrassing. Considering how little is happening on the screen, there's no excuse for The Show not to be the best looking sports game. I was especially disappointed in the "jump" from PS4 to PS5.
• No Tattoos. Ruins the authenticity. And no, I don't care about the neck tattoo on Felix Hernandez and Yadier Molina. You've got a lot of income via Diamond Dynasty and now expanding to XBOX...pay for the rights for player tattoos.
• Tired animations. The hitting/fielding animations have been the same for YEARS...and frankly never looked smooth/good. There needs to be more variety here.
• Stale cards. Honestly, very little has changed since 2017. I don't think a single Inning Legend excited me. Maybe Pedro, but that's it. Once gain, the game is largely the same year after year and you're making a lot of money off Diamond Dynasty...pony up for more legends. They should never lose legends, they should only keep adding.
• Small/Terrible Soundtrack + Removed Custom Soundtrack. It never made sense to me to have an 8 song soundtrack for a sports game, those songs will always get annoying by years end....BUT you always had a cool little feature that allowed you to import your music into the game. That was inexplicably removed from the next gen versions of the game. What are you...EA Sports? When you tout it as a new Feature in The Show 25, we will know better.
• Need more create a jersey choices and the option for an alternate uniform at the very least.
• I'm not even for this necessarily...I like the extra strategy, but no option for a DH?
• No custom stadiums for play vs friends? You can do it for ranked seasons, but not for play vs friends......yeah, that's stupid. No reason it should be in one mode and not another. Seems lazy to me.
• I miss the ability to use repeat cards towards beefing up my custom players stats. That was a fun way to exchange cards and incorporate a created player.
• It was mentioned before, but the bad market has made opening packs more of a chore than anything. Used to be fun, but who cares if they even pull Mike Trout at this point?
• Lack of consistency with hitting and pitching results. Once again, this feels very random. Perfectly timed swings with amazing contact should be a home run or a hit at the very least, but a lot of times it results in an out. Sometimes I won't get all of the ball and am early, but it's a home run. Same thing with pitching. Anywhere I pitch can apparently be hit 430 feet. Doesn't matter if it's low and outside. This makes it unclear to me what I need to do to succeed in this game. You wouldn't want an umpire with an inconsistent strike zone, I don't want a baseball game with inconsistent rewards and penalties.

There was a point where I thought this was the best Show game I had ever played, but as happens every year, patches ruin the game. It became almost unplayable by August. It stinks, but I really have no desire to play this game or The Show for a few years. I will eventually forget how unpleasant this experience was and my craving for a baseball game will get the better of me eventually, but I really hope the community demands better.

3/10.

What's your review?

@mubby_33_psn said in It's Official: MLB the Show is Just as Bad as Madden:

Mlb the Show is not perfect by any means, however you obviously have not played Madden recently. Madden is the biggest joke of a game since Cyberpunk. EA might possibly the worst gaming company in the world. I play both equally right now, MUT h2h is unplayable.

If you're playing Madden right now, must not be THAT bad. Probably a load of poo every single game, just like MLB The Show. I will say though...I think it's probably harder to make a football game than a baseball game. 22 bodies running around is a lot more complex than one pitcher throwing to one batter with 8 stationary fielders. I would sure hope there's not as many straight up glitches.

The thing is...MLB The Show isn't a glitch fest like Madden. It's mostly horrible animations which leads to you getting out, committing an error or giving up runs, along with the blatant buffing+nerfing and/or game scripting. They only get away with it because so many of you are empty headed and okay as long as you're getting free and easy to earn 99 cards.

So to all the naysayers...are you arguing that MLB The Show isn't as bad as Madden or are you arguing the MLB The Show is a good game?

@mereel13_psn said in It's Official: MLB the Show is Just as Bad as Madden:

i honestly didnt read the post

i just came here to laugh at the title

HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA

ok bye

Later!

Also, if you have time read the post. Might be eye opening

@foge011_psn said in It's Official: MLB the Show is Just as Bad as Madden:

going back to where you said no buttons would work until he stepped off. After a pitch is selected nothing will work, with your HUUUUGE sample size you say you have I would think you'd know this. Just admit you screwed up multiple times in the game and call it a day.

You're just not aware of what's going on in these games brotha. Research DDA, then we can talk. And don't be predictable by refusing to look it up or say you've heard about it and it's BS.

@mam8a-245300_xbl said in It's Official: MLB the Show is Just as Bad as Madden:

@squid_adams_psn said in It's Official: MLB the Show is Just as Bad as Madden:

Remember. This is a video game. By the rules of the video game, I shouldn't have been picked off. I don't care if it happens in real life...this isn't real life

Wtf. What rules are these you speak of? The ones you made up in your head? Don't take a lead and you won't get picked off. It's that simple.

The game has mechanics. You press square, you hit for power. Press circle, you hit for contact. Hit for a little contact and power press X. If you apply logic, you'd realize other facets of the game have mechanics. Like beanball said, you know what's coming when you have the lead in the final innings. I've been set up to lose on soooooo many occasions, I refuse to believe I have that big of an issue "under pressure."

The base running mechanics, for as long as I've been playing this game are as follows: One lead, you're safe (with a fast player) Two leads is a crapshoot...you can be picked off, but can also get back safely. If you hit L2 in order to steal, and take a lead, it increases the probability of you being picked off. You're almost certainly getting picked off (or will just take off) if you press L2 with two leads (oh...btw, i mean when you hit L1 twice). Slow players have no business taking leads, as that's a good way to get picked off. SO given all that information, the mechanics the game has laid out over several iterations of "The Show", leading off with one L1 press, with a player like Lou Brock...with no command to steal, should not result in me getting picked off. I have not seen this happen before or since....with a LARGE sample size.

So if the game isn't consistent on what constitutes being out or safe...along with hitting, pitching and fielding mechanics, then what am I playing? It's like a slot machine with no control over how you do. It should be more like Poker where you control your own destiny.

@hustlinowl_psn said in It's Official: MLB the Show is Just as Bad as Madden:

@squid_adams_psn said in It's Official: MLB the Show is Just as Bad as Madden:

@hustlinowl_psn said in It's Official: MLB the Show is Just as Bad as Madden:

@squid_adams_psn said in It's Official: MLB the Show is Just as Bad as Madden:

@so-icy42_xbl said in It's Official: MLB the Show is Just as Bad as Madden:

Sounds like you can’t hit and got burned trying to steal a run on the base paths multiple times. The game isn’t as bad as Madden. I usually am cool with people voicing their concerns with the game, but your post is so far off base.

Yea he already admitted at the top of this page that he uses game exploits like slow animations and whatnot all the time. That confession just completely blew the microscopic amount of sympathy I had for him. I would not be the least bit surprised if he got gunned out through user error in all of these. I swear these clowns are the worst. They expect that just because a guy has 99 speed that they should be successful in stealing EVERY SINGLE TIME. Any time they get gunned out then they throw a fit and blame it on the game. I can honestly say that I’ve NEVER once tried using any of the exploits that exist. Yet this clown uses all of them and then complains when they don’t work 100% of the time. OP is such a cheap cry baby.

Not looking for sympathy. Just illustrating how this game (much like Madden) has exploits you can take advantage of. After flying out to the warning track 3 times and going to the 4th extra inning in what was supposed to be a 3 inning event game, you tend to just want to get the game over with. If that means bunt cheese, using the stealing home glitch etc. I will do exactly that. Why? Because this game is broken and I no longer feel obliged to play it respectfully. I started off by only going for the wins with a legitimate hit...but that only means I'm going to inevitably line out to first or a warning track fly out and open up an opportunity for my opponent to beat me with a game exploit or a walk off home run by Ozzie Smith.

And after my 7 day ban (For what exactly? I don't know. I didn't swear, make threats, etc...I guess we just have a lot of soft males in this forum who feel powerful reporting someone ) I can absolutely confirm...MLB the Show and Madden are one of the same. I knew it was over for this game when my 97 Lou Brock (you know, the one with 99 speed and 99 steal) got picked off at 1st after taking a one step lead and making no input to steal 2nd.

I said to myself, heck with it, let's play again. Bottom of the 3rd in an event game, I'm up 1-0. My opponent hasn't been able to touch me all game. However, I wasn't surprised when a 2 out, 2 strike pitch was taken deep to tie the game. Okay, let's go to extra innings. I take the lead again, going up 4-1. Next inning I put in 99 Mariano. Bam, first pitch single...followed by a game tying home run! Only made possible with DDA/Game Scripting/Come Back Logic/Buffing and Nerfing etc. No worries, just come back and score another run and take a 5-4 lead. No way the game is going to keep giving him everything right? Wrong. Game scripting decides he will get 2 home runs on 2 pitches and win the game 6-5.

The fun thing about it is...for all the simple minded players...the easiest response is "git gud" or "pitch better" or "this happens in real baseball" but what I see is exactly what other people who have abandoned this series see. The game (like every major sports franchise) is scripted. Player input matters maybe 50% and the other 50% is whatever the game decides to do. Maybe pepper a throwing error here, a routine fly ball drop there, and bam...the guy who I was beating can have fun again, now that the game is tied or he has taken the lead. None of that has to do with my skill as a player. I can appreciate going for authenticity, but at the end of the day this is a video game...and wins and losses should be decided by the PLAYERS.

The only difference between The Show and Madden, is they aren't predatory with micro transactions. They give everyone the same bloated cards, so no one feels like they have to grind endlessly or spend $100...this takes some heat off SDS's back, so they don't get held accountable for churning out heavily flawed products. But don't be fooled. The gameplay is inconsistent and broken. There should be no exploits, no getting tied into an animation, no letting runners score because your fielders have no sense of urgency...but yet we have all these things, because SDS...just like EA and 2k...has gotten lazy. Who wouldn't? You literally have no competition.

lol getting bunted on and picked off that's all on you

Bunted on yes....Picked off no.

Unless there's a game mechanic I'm unaware of, you can't be picked off of 1st unless you lead with a slow runner, or input the steal command. (remember, we're talking 99 speed/99 steal Lou Brock here) But I'm open to be proven wrong. Why did I get picked off?

game gives you a lead no need to take an extra step thats on you

Even with the extra step, I've never been picked off or picked another person off. If it's Jim Thome, sure...not if it's Trea Turner, Lou Brock or Billy Hamilton. So...like I said before, why did I get picked off?

Remember. This is a video game. By the rules of the video game, I shouldn't have been picked off. I don't care if it happens in real life...this isn't real life

Even with the extra step, I've never been picked off or picked another person off. If it's Jim Thome, sure...not if it's Trea Turner, Lou Brock or Billy Hamilton. So...like I said before, why did I get picked off?

Remember. This is a video game. By the rules of the video game, I shouldn't have been picked off. I don't care if it happens in real life...this isn't real life.

@hustlinowl_psn said in It's Official: MLB the Show is Just as Bad as Madden:

@squid_adams_psn said in It's Official: MLB the Show is Just as Bad as Madden:

@so-icy42_xbl said in It's Official: MLB the Show is Just as Bad as Madden:

Sounds like you can’t hit and got burned trying to steal a run on the base paths multiple times. The game isn’t as bad as Madden. I usually am cool with people voicing their concerns with the game, but your post is so far off base.

Yea he already admitted at the top of this page that he uses game exploits like slow animations and whatnot all the time. That confession just completely blew the microscopic amount of sympathy I had for him. I would not be the least bit surprised if he got gunned out through user error in all of these. I swear these clowns are the worst. They expect that just because a guy has 99 speed that they should be successful in stealing EVERY SINGLE TIME. Any time they get gunned out then they throw a fit and blame it on the game. I can honestly say that I’ve NEVER once tried using any of the exploits that exist. Yet this clown uses all of them and then complains when they don’t work 100% of the time. OP is such a cheap cry baby.

Not looking for sympathy. Just illustrating how this game (much like Madden) has exploits you can take advantage of. After flying out to the warning track 3 times and going to the 4th extra inning in what was supposed to be a 3 inning event game, you tend to just want to get the game over with. If that means bunt cheese, using the stealing home glitch etc. I will do exactly that. Why? Because this game is broken and I no longer feel obliged to play it respectfully. I started off by only going for the wins with a legitimate hit...but that only means I'm going to inevitably line out to first or a warning track fly out and open up an opportunity for my opponent to beat me with a game exploit or a walk off home run by Ozzie Smith.

And after my 7 day ban (For what exactly? I don't know. I didn't swear, make threats, etc...I guess we just have a lot of soft males in this forum who feel powerful reporting someone ) I can absolutely confirm...MLB the Show and Madden are one of the same. I knew it was over for this game when my 97 Lou Brock (you know, the one with 99 speed and 99 steal) got picked off at 1st after taking a one step lead and making no input to steal 2nd.

I said to myself, heck with it, let's play again. Bottom of the 3rd in an event game, I'm up 1-0. My opponent hasn't been able to touch me all game. However, I wasn't surprised when a 2 out, 2 strike pitch was taken deep to tie the game. Okay, let's go to extra innings. I take the lead again, going up 4-1. Next inning I put in 99 Mariano. Bam, first pitch single...followed by a game tying home run! Only made possible with DDA/Game Scripting/Come Back Logic/Buffing and Nerfing etc. No worries, just come back and score another run and take a 5-4 lead. No way the game is going to keep giving him everything right? Wrong. Game scripting decides he will get 2 home runs on 2 pitches and win the game 6-5.

The fun thing about it is...for all the simple minded players...the easiest response is "git gud" or "pitch better" or "this happens in real baseball" but what I see is exactly what other people who have abandoned this series see. The game (like every major sports franchise) is scripted. Player input matters maybe 50% and the other 50% is whatever the game decides to do. Maybe pepper a throwing error here, a routine fly ball drop there, and bam...the guy who I was beating can have fun again, now that the game is tied or he has taken the lead. None of that has to do with my skill as a player. I can appreciate going for authenticity, but at the end of the day this is a video game...and wins and losses should be decided by the PLAYERS.

The only difference between The Show and Madden, is they aren't predatory with micro transactions. They give everyone the same bloated cards, so no one feels like they have to grind endlessly or spend $100...this takes some heat off SDS's back, so they don't get held accountable for churning out heavily flawed products. But don't be fooled. The gameplay is inconsistent and broken. There should be no exploits, no getting tied into an animation, no letting runners score because your fielders have no sense of urgency...but yet we have all these things, because SDS...just like EA and 2k...has gotten lazy. Who wouldn't? You literally have no competition.

lol getting bunted on and picked off that's all on you

Bunted on yes....Picked off no.

Unless there's a game mechanic I'm unaware of, you can't be picked off of 1st unless you lead with a slow runner, or input the steal command. (remember, we're talking 99 speed/99 steal Lou Brock here) But I'm open to be proven wrong. Why did I get picked off?

@tattooeddude84 said in It's Official: MLB the Show is Just as Bad as Madden:

@squid_adams_psn said in It's Official: MLB the Show is Just as Bad as Madden:

Just won an 8 INNING events game. Should have gone 8 innings? No.

A few of the things that caused it to go to 8 innings.

-I had a runner on second and Aroldis Chapman up to bat. His pitcher is standing there for about 15 seconds, and I figure "why not pinch hit for Chapman?" So I hit L1 to back out of the box, and nothing happens. A moment later, the pitcher steps off the mound and the runner on 2nd goes for 3rd. Out

-Trea Turner steals 3rd the following inning. The classic stuck in mud animation to allow your opponent to throw you out commences. Boom. Inning over.

-Jarren Duran steals 3rd this time (successfully but in classic MLB the Show fashion, he goes for home without me putting in that command.) Out.

Also in that game. Trout hits a gapper, that is probably better off as a single. I send him to 2nd initially, then send him back. The little box that shows what your runners are doing disappears and now I have no idea if Trout is running to second or staying on first. He ultimately ran to second....didn't get thrown out, but it was close.

And of course we know about the game breaking frequency of home runs and inconsistency with hitting in general....as well as game scripting. Can't tell you how many games I've had in control and then something magical happens with my opponent in the final inning, causing me to lose the game.

Madden has a 16 year head start in becoming a terrible franchise due to lack of competition...but MLB the Show (and frankly NBA 2k) are not far off. We sports games fans deserve better.

You know you've smoked yourself retarded when you think MLB is as bad as Madden. The kids watch too much tik tok man

Yeah, they really do haha. Who knew lip synching was fun to watch? Also...what's the purpose of abandoning Vine for TikTok. Aren't they the same exact thing?

But yeah...I agree, you'd have to have smoked yourself silly to think this game is not on the same level as Madden. I've played both FARRRRRR more than I'm proud of, so I have a HUUUUUUGE sample size of both games. Madden is 90% broken, The Show is 75% broken. Basically means both games are garbage. Do you really think this game working 25% of the time makes it a superior product to Madden? It's like arguing if warm, moist dog poo is better than dried out, room temperature dog poo.

@jeezy-e_psn said in It's Official: MLB the Show is Just as Bad as Madden:

As someone, one of many people who a month into maddens life cycle cant play a game without it shutting down my series X I can whole heartedly say this game is nowhere near as bad as Madden. They have to remove features to make madden playable for the few who can run the game without crashes, so yea The Show with all its flaws still doesn’t come anywhere near the disaster that is Madden.

Like I said before, Madden has been without competition for 16 years and The Show has been without competition for 8 years. Of course Madden is further along in terms of sucking...but The Show is catching up quickly! The game has been going downhill since 18 I'd say...but I'll at least admit this: future Show games will make 21 look like a masterpiece. Things are only going to get worse. Maybe we'll see a Juan Pierre card with 115 power from both sides of the plate? In 2017, I'd rule that out...but not anymore. At the center of all the problems with this game has got to be the game-breaking, excessive home runs. I could almost deal with everything else, but man oh man does this game over exaggerate the percentage of hits that are homers. Almost as bad as a 3 point shooting Shaq card in 2k

@so-icy42_xbl said in It's Official: MLB the Show is Just as Bad as Madden:

Sounds like you can’t hit and got burned trying to steal a run on the base paths multiple times. The game isn’t as bad as Madden. I usually am cool with people voicing their concerns with the game, but your post is so far off base.

Yea he already admitted at the top of this page that he uses game exploits like slow animations and whatnot all the time. That confession just completely blew the microscopic amount of sympathy I had for him. I would not be the least bit surprised if he got gunned out through user error in all of these. I swear these clowns are the worst. They expect that just because a guy has 99 speed that they should be successful in stealing EVERY SINGLE TIME. Any time they get gunned out then they throw a fit and blame it on the game. I can honestly say that I’ve NEVER once tried using any of the exploits that exist. Yet this clown uses all of them and then complains when they don’t work 100% of the time. OP is such a cheap cry baby.

Not looking for sympathy. Just illustrating how this game (much like Madden) has exploits you can take advantage of. After flying out to the warning track 3 times and going to the 4th extra inning in what was supposed to be a 3 inning event game, you tend to just want to get the game over with. If that means bunt cheese, using the stealing home glitch etc. I will do exactly that. Why? Because this game is broken and I no longer feel obliged to play it respectfully. I started off by only going for the wins with a legitimate hit...but that only means I'm going to inevitably line out to first or a warning track fly out and open up an opportunity for my opponent to beat me with a game exploit or a walk off home run by Ozzie Smith.

And after my 7 day ban (For what exactly? I don't know. I didn't swear, make threats, etc...I guess we just have a lot of soft males in this forum who feel powerful reporting someone ) I can absolutely confirm...MLB the Show and Madden are one of the same. I knew it was over for this game when my 97 Lou Brock (you know, the one with 99 speed and 99 steal) got picked off at 1st after taking a one step lead and making no input to steal 2nd.

I said to myself, heck with it, let's play again. Bottom of the 3rd in an event game, I'm up 1-0. My opponent hasn't been able to touch me all game. However, I wasn't surprised when a 2 out, 2 strike pitch was taken deep to tie the game. Okay, let's go to extra innings. I take the lead again, going up 4-1. Next inning I put in 99 Mariano. Bam, first pitch single...followed by a game tying home run! Only made possible with DDA/Game Scripting/Come Back Logic/Buffing and Nerfing etc. No worries, just come back and score another run and take a 5-4 lead. No way the game is going to keep giving him everything right? Wrong. Game scripting decides he will get 2 home runs on 2 pitches and win the game 6-5.

The fun thing about it is...for all the simple minded players...the easiest response is "git gud" or "pitch better" or "this happens in real baseball" but what I see is exactly what other people who have abandoned this series see. The game (like every major sports franchise) is scripted. Player input matters maybe 50% and the other 50% is whatever the game decides to do. Maybe pepper a throwing error here, a routine fly ball drop there, and bam...the guy who I was beating can have fun again, now that the game is tied or he has taken the lead. None of that has to do with my skill as a player. I can appreciate going for authenticity, but at the end of the day this is a video game...and wins and losses should be decided by the PLAYERS.

The only difference between The Show and Madden, is they aren't predatory with micro transactions. They give everyone the same bloated cards, so no one feels like they have to grind endlessly or spend $100...this takes some heat off SDS's back, so they don't get held accountable for churning out heavily flawed products. But don't be fooled. The gameplay is inconsistent and broken. There should be no exploits, no getting tied into an animation, no letting runners score because your fielders have no sense of urgency...but yet we have all these things, because SDS...just like EA and 2k...has gotten lazy. Who wouldn't? You literally have no competition.

@codywolfgang_xbl said in It's Official: MLB the Show is Just as Bad as Madden:

@squid_adams_psn said in It's Official: MLB the Show is Just as Bad as Madden:

Just won an 8 INNING events game. Should have gone 8 innings? No.

A few of the things that caused it to go to 8 innings.

-I had a runner on second and Aroldis Chapman up to bat. His pitcher is standing there for about 15 seconds, and I figure "why not pinch hit for Chapman?" So I hit L1 to back out of the box, and nothing happens. A moment later, the pitcher steps off the mound and the runner on 2nd goes for 3rd. Out

-Trea Turner steals 3rd the following inning. The classic stuck in mud animation to allow your opponent to throw you out commences. Boom. Inning over.

-Jarren Duran steals 3rd this time (successfully but in classic MLB the Show fashion, he goes for home without me putting in that command.) Out.

Also in that game. Trout hits a gapper, that is probably better off as a single. I send him to 2nd initially, then send him back. The little box that shows what your runners are doing disappears and now I have no idea if Trout is running to second or staying on first. He ultimately ran to second....didn't get thrown out, but it was close.

And of course we know about the game breaking frequency of home runs and inconsistency with hitting in general....as well as game scripting. Can't tell you how many games I've had in control and then something magical happens with my opponent in the final inning, causing me to lose the game.

Madden has a 16 year head start in becoming a terrible franchise due to lack of competition...but MLB the Show (and frankly NBA 2k) are not far off. We sports games fans deserve better.

Sounds like you can’t hit and got burned trying to steal a run on the base paths multiple times. The game isn’t as bad as Madden. I usually am cool with people voicing their concerns with the game, but your post is so far off base.

It's really not...but go ahead and peep my response to so icy42 for more on my response.

Also...for "next-gen" players. Can you upload your own soundtrack to the game, like every MLB the Show in the past? Nope. They removed that feature. That's some EA sh*t. They'll probably bring it back in 7 years and tout it as something new.