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Ahh - that actually makes sense.
Well…drat…
Maybe I’m the odd person out, but I’m just not a fan of moments…at least hitting. Feels at times like a grind for “grinds” sake.
Anything that would allow this mode to fit into the more classic play modes (Conquest, Play vs. CPU, Ranked, BR) would be preferable, but again…that can just be me complaining.
Got it. Note, I’m specifically looking for something for offline play in moments - not for online multiplayer.
Don’t know if they could just limit to the former though…
Not sure if anyone feels similarly but I’m not a big fan of the hitting moments. I totally get why they are there (helps break up the game, allows you to gain XP in different programs, it helps share a bit of history, etc.). However, it’s SUPER grindy. Plus, I do feel like the hitting moments (which I like less than pitching) are “nerfed,” at times? (Could just be me, but man are there a ton of warning track shots…)
So…one quality of life suggestion I have would be to create a quicker “reset” feature that allows you to restart the at bat faster than the current functionality that requires you to wait for the ball to be caught. I know that it sounds spoiled - having to wait an extra 2-3 seconds - but when you’re grinding something you don’t enjoy, you just want to turn over every rock you can in order to get it over with.
More macro - is there way to make these more enjoyable? Perhaps allow you to adjust the difficulty and thus, provide more XP if you do them (read: get them over with) on a harder level?
Or…somewhat of a different topic: what if the Topps now tie in allowed you to receive card typically included in moments for rental to use in offline or online play and then earn XP? Kinda like FIFA loan players, but more tied into using them within a short time frame? This way, folks would diversify their teams more by using these cards, and that could actually allow to accomplish tasks in modes that are more enjoyable? Just my ramblings but love to see what folks think…
@kwikpoppa_PSN said in Found a couple ways to inject some fun into the game!:
In Bases Loaded you could actually hit the darn ball. It was timing if I recall. Lot like High Heat . Glad you mention the game . There was Penant Race and maybe one more. First really great baseball game was MVP 2005 which I had the honor of working on . And always believed The Show might have incorporated some of MVPs physics engine . MVP was first to get the ball inside the field correct. i loved franchise until I got online . Thought I was The Moose til I started playing 12 year olds with serious eye hand coordination.
I’m not even joking I was looking up clips from MVP baseball last night! What a game, and I was really impressed to see how good that game still looked considering it came out on the PS2. You worked on that? How cool.
In addition, I remember that really great college baseball game that was based on MVP. I remember spending so much time looking up and inputting the actual rosters from schools – because obviously you couldn’t download them online – and it just so happened that the year that game came out had so many college baseball players who would have a great careers. Evan Longoria AND Troy Tulowitzki both on Long Beach State (!) Ian Kennedy on USC and many more. Man that game… I can still hear the “ting!” of the metal bats…
Also, if you want to go down baseball game history, I have to always bring up World Series baseball from the Genesis in the early 90s. I still feel like that game in its heyday still has the best hitting interface I’ve played…
@arvcpa_MLBTS said in Found a couple ways to inject some fun into the game!:
I'm pretty sure I would strike out 27 times in a row using that view.
I know right?
I mean…in your first game you might. Ha.
The thing for me is that once I got a feel for it, Ibwas more proficient at getting good timing - including way more perfect/perfects, than normal.
But yeah - might take a game or two to dedicate to it.
Again - if you can already hit, no need to even try!
Mia culpa to start…I skipped buying 23 this year so what I’m sharing relates to 22 but still applicable I think.
After redownloading 22 and having fun again, I quickly started to get back into the ranked rabbit hole doldrums that everyone knows (every team having the same players… “ohh P5 Randy?! What a novel idea!”). So needed to find some new things and found two that have got me excited - at least for this week.
Firstly, I actually never dove into Franchise mode before, and if you haven’t, it can be fun! While loving stats, I felt that I was more someone who if I’m picking up the controller, that I want to actually play a game…not just oversee the team. However, once I got into the weeds of transactions - especially the off-season, found that it can be really fun. Things like fighting over free agents, who to let go to make room for a young star…all very fun. I’m mixing in playing some of the games but it’s more about the big picture. The only thing I wish for would be more in depth feedback in the off-season and more understanding of what inputs lead to gains/decreases in stats both in season and over the years…
The second thing that’s been fun is actually pretty different (and most folks will roll their eyes), but as someone who gets frustrated at hitting (I’m about a .190 hitter in ranked) I needed something in the, “try every PCI/Camera view” mix to finally help me feel more comfortable at the plate and after trying a ton of things have landed on trying the Pitcher Offset camera as a HITTING view.
For those that never played the old Bases Loaded game on Nintendo this may sound weird but hitting from a view behind the pitcher worked really well in that game so I tried it… The results have been pretty friggin’ good! I’ve found that my timing - especially on fastballs - is so much better, and that I feel more aggressive in confident in hitting as opposed to defensive.
The best example of the impact of the view on my hitting is that the thing I can’t stand the most in the game - Hitting based Moments - aren’t actually the annoying cuss-out-the-computer grind they normally are now. …that’s saying something for someone who can’t stand them…
Now it’s not for everyone, and you have to resist peeking at the pitchers throwing hand in his glove as you can see the grip change for some pitchers (this is addition to the catcher adjusting his target) but, if you’re getting frustrated with hitting, don’t take the game too seriously and want a new approach, give it a try. It will take about 2-3 games to get a handle but if you do, could be a fun new way to play offline if you need a change (just keep in mind that you aren’t able to use in online games against people).
@Blind_Bleeder said in Enough! Please add “Grown Folks” Mode:
I’m 61 and played beginner and Franchise mode from 2008-2020. Admittedly, from 2008-2016 I only played a couple of hours a month. When I retired, my hours picked up, but I still played beginner and Franchise. Then I jumped in with some guys who taught me how to push myself, be better, and try new aspects of the game, like DD.
To make this long dribble short, try something new. If online play frustrates you, go offline. If the level you are playing is too frustrating, knock it down a level until you get comfortable, and then bump up the difficulty and push yourself.
Frankly, I suck online, but I’m better than I used to be.
Also, see if you can get into a league Discord group with some guys that will help you tune your skills. You can PM me and do what I can to help too.
There are guys in here that say age has nothing to do with how well you play, but I don’t agree with them. I know it does…except for one guy…he’s older than me and plays like he’s 21. You know who you are
Great post, thanks!
I get it.
I’m old. Can’t hit. Fine. Still, really enjoy the game. Even though the hitting engine really needs to be changed but won’t because you can’t satisfy casuals and die hards. I get that.
But… I’m like…tired of the nonsense online. Call me old. Past it. Out of touch.
I just played a guy who had a GREAT eye. Refused to bite on cutters in. Kudos to him.
But 1.5 batters in…after check swinging and getting a ball call on 4 straight pitches…proceeds to call time to…I guess…”flex?” To…you know… rub it in that he had a good eye??
Clearly I’m in complaint mode, but man… It would be good to just be able and play with normal, functioning human beings. Man…
Like…”I’m an adult and just want to play the game mode.” No calling time because you took a pitch. No bunt dancing after a HR. Just…you know… normal…I’m not nuts human behavior…
The Kid.
@eatyum_PSN said in Finest Lindor Vs. FOTF Lindor ????:
To be fair, your fotf Lindor was facing much weaker pitching, now every pitcher is outlier 99
…beat me to it.
Think about the pitchers in events your FOTF Lindor faced early in year (ex. Commons in moonshot events) vs. Randy, Bob, etc in the most recent events.
@jonblaze2424_PSN said in You Have an X Button...:
So now the game takes 43 mins instead of 40. Un freakin believable
Yeah…I get that but the question remains - what the heck are people doing?
@SuntLacrimae50_MLBTS said in You Have an X Button...:
What's with all the losers who love to watch cutscenes?
This is actually funny. I personally wouldn’t call them “losers,” but yeah, I don’t know what folks are doing at the start of the game… Just hit “x” my dude and let’s get it rocking and rolling.
Also, I find that folks love watching The Kid and Mookie’s pre at-bat animations in particular. I get it… they are both cool for sure …but let’s get it going! It’s the same every time!
I just don’t get it.
@halfbutt_PSN said in I’m convinced that feedback means nothing:
I’m actually comforted by all the replies. I agree with most of you. I’ve been saying for a while that it is really difficult to actually get better at this game. There are too many variables.
Over long periods of time, like years, I think you can improve. My pci placement has definitely improved since 2016. That said, I don’t agree with the idea that the card attributes don’t matter. They matter too much, imo. How many times have you outhit your opponent thoroughly but lost on three solo home runs on questionable swings?
Wow. When you put it that way Diamond Dynasty really is just a great looking baseball “arcade” game. I hate to say that because “arcade” is kinda derogatory but I think that’s the product. You take what is a sim experience and then juice it with pumped up cards and a meta that favors HRs or bust because, let’s be honest, that’s what most folks who buy the game want.. and you get Ozzie Smith with 90+ HR ratings.
And let’s be honest. It’s fun. That’s why we all are still playing 8 months after launch.
Therefore I think expectations from a user standpoint are critical.
If you want to be able and pick up a baseball video game and be able to hit a baseball (the hardest thing to do in sports) in the first 5 minutes, and then hit a HR in the first 10 minutes (which most people who buy the game expect to be able to do) then the whole concept of any semblance of realism is out the door. So stop asking for it. It’s the same as all the attributes you add to players in Fifa or MUT in Madden. It’s arcade fantasy that satiates the masses. NBA 2k3 games with guys greening fading away threes all day. Sport video game high theater….
Now, if you want sim (which I do) you have to try and carve out a less frequented and importantly, less supported space. However it is there. Last night I played a super fun game of Online Rated. 0-0 going into the bottom of the 9th…I had struck out 12 times…hit a bullet off the wall to score a runner from first to win in a walk off. Ton of fun. Rewarding. But I’m in the minority of folks who find that rewarding.
I’m telling y’all…turn that stuff off. Pitch feedback. Swing feedback. The white dot that pops up after a pitch is thrown….
It will make the game more rewarding and you’ll both be able to focus and enjoy the game more.
Everyone seems to have their own expectations of outcomes based on the feedback data so you’re bound to be disappointed!
For example the, “every perfect swing should result in a HR,” camp (which is flat bonkers to me). For some real life context, in last nights Padres game the three hardest hit balls resulted in the following outcomes:
The hardest hit ball resulted in a groundout. (So literally not even a hit).
The second hardest ball resulted in a double. (Cool)
The third hardest hit ball resulted in a single (Just fine sunglasses emoji).
How’s that for, “RNG?”
If the phrase, “late sided good,” is in your vocabulary, do yourself a favor and turn…feedback…off.
@halfbutt_PSN said in Slide stepping:
Where do you guys stand on slide stepping every pitch with bases empty?
Exploit or not?
Combine this with pausing between pitches and you get how some pretty good players actually pitch.
I was surprised by this tactic because I ran into a goon in the event who was mashing every mistake pitch. I decided to finish the game to see if I could hang with him. Nope. Lost 5-1.
Those of you who play above 700, how often are you seeing this?
I’m no 700 player so might not have the credibility however I actually like it when people use that delivery. It has far less deception than most deliveries and breaking balls seem easier to spot and hit to me from the slide step.
Does anyone play Online Rated games (So choosing a real team to use and play others online)?
If so, is there any reward for playing a ton of games or is the experience just one off games?
Asking as I’ve been looking for a non-super card experience online where I can play folks on legend. (Low run pitchers duels where folks are striking out 12 times is actually fun to me).
DD online is so batting weighted that fun things like tunneling, etc don’t work for me since you’re punished so much for throwing anything in the zone.
Alternatively how do leagues work? What do the windows to get games in look like?
@RazorForte45_XBL said in Settings to make the game more enjoyable:
Love this…
And how about this.
Pick a set of player cards… say the All Star cards.Make a lineup of only those.
So really no 99/perfect cards.
Play the CPU w those settings you mentioned on Legend.
More enjoyable to me than on line.
…That’s a really interesting idea!
Usually this time of year I start messing with the settings to try and make the game more enjoyable. Below are some of the things I’ve tweaked that are keeping me engaged…for at least this week.
Turn off all feedback. Pitch feedback, hitting feedback. Take all that “late sided good,” nonesense and shove it. None of it matters. So turn it off. Pitch feedback - including the white dot you see after a pitch? Off. I just want baseball, not things that remind me how frustrating the game can be. You dig?
Hitting view Retro + in play camera on dynamic. You laugh but try it. Seriously. So rewarding when you get a hit.
Pitching take off the pitching reticle so that you don’t see where you’re aiming and use pinpoint. What you’ll find is that you think less about “dotting” and more about what you’re trying to do to either get the hitter to swing and miss, or, to hit the ball where you want him to hit. Which is.. you know…baseball.
Give it a try!
I like the general idea as I think the current Hot Zone data isn’t really useful - especially online.
However, I’m a big advocate of allowing users to select contact/normal/power swing before a pitch when using zone hitting so that the actual PCI size can be displayed when hitting the ball.
Right now, the default PCI is always your normal swing, and therefore, not an accurate representation of your hitting instrument if you use contact or power swing…
@ItsShotimee_MLBTS said in How to make stubs:
I’ve definitely flipped cards, are there any other ways to make stubs easily (mainly on the Companion App) also pls don’t tell me to use cash
Not sure if this helps at this stage of the year, but below are a few things I did that seemed to work a bit throughout the year. I didn’t buy a stub other than I think 5k that came with the version of the game I bought and now have a lot of stubs.
The reason flipping commons works is because they are so…well…commonly available and therefore you can usually obtain a ton quickly through the app. Then, because the ones with good spread are so lucrative (4x, 5x, etc return on good spreads) it just becomes a volume game. Almost like those cheap properties at the front of the board in Monopoly. If you invest in them while everyone is laughing at you while they fight over Boardwalk, they will recognize that value when they land on the 4 Hotels you’ve built on Baltic Avenue! Well…commons are the Baltic Avenue of the MLB The Show Market…
Get lucky (which I was able to) by identifying a common or bronze player who in real life you know will project to play and have a good year and INVEST in them. For me, I watched two at bats from Spencer Striders first game and said, “I’m getting me as many of these cards as I can.”. When he went Diamond a month ago I was able to capitalize. Maybe next year focus on players in your favorite team that fit this bill and gradually invest stubs into them like an investment account. (Ex. As a Giants fan I knew the potential of Camilo Doval and so knew he’d rise above a bronze). When they get upgraded as high as you think they will go…bulk quick sell!
Similarly to this, stay up on upcoming roster updates and invest in high bronze (74), high silver (79) and high gold (84) players you think will be upgraded to the next tier at the next update so you can QUICK SELL them if the player is indeed upgraded. It’s not a perfect science and there is quite a bit of competition in obtaining these guys but even the day before an update being able to get a card at 60% of his upgrade price is worth it if you’re able to purchase and quick sell in bulk (ex. an 84 gold who you buy at 1,600 who if upgraded can be quick sold for 3k stubs). That Urias card that went Diamond a few weeks ago is a recent example of this that worked for me. I just kept watching the stats from his starts going in and as long as he didn’t have a bad outing…I kept investing!
Use the mlbtheshowzone website to secure quick sell pricing, updated player values and critically, the sales per minute of cards. If there are popular cards that are being flipped with good spread, those are great targets to focus on. Ex. Right now people are trying to complete collections and focused on the last expensive live series cards like Trout and Shohei. If you have the stubs, they are great targets to flip.
Again, I’m not expert but ideally this helps a bit!
