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Keep telling the plain truth to people and eventually they have nothing logical to offer and resort to cheap insults. They show who they really are!

One more to the block curb!

@go4stros25_PSN said:

@PriorFir4383355_XBL packs are a terrible purchase, sure. But that doesnt change the fact that people sometimes buy them and others cheated to get them for free.

Dont concern yourself with how other peopel chose to spend their money.

Yet, you consider yourself free and clear to obsess on how other people play a video game!

I'm not concerned about it. I'm just speaking plain truth calling people foolish for trading real money for virtual trinkets. One thing to buy a video game to play a game. Another to consider virtual trinkets so desirable that they throw real money at them.

Yes, I will continue to call such actions foolish. Don't concern yourself over that truth!

I did not purchase MLB 26, and will not purchase another SDS product unless the company wakes up and works hard once again to make the best computer-based simulation of baseball -- something SDS used to do, but stopped doing several years ago when the marketing idiots started calling the shots and truly talented game coders were considered unimportant to pay to retain and allow to keep the game preeminent.

@go4stros25_PSN said:

Cheat all you want, exploit the game and ruin the market, no problem, have fun!! There will be no consequences.

100 packs is $100. People cheated and opened THOUSANDS!

where are the consequences? What about the people who have spent hundreds of hours playing the game correctly? What about the people who gave yall money for packs and cards? Are we morons to yall? Does our game experience mean less than the cheaters?

TLDR: Sds is allowing people to steal what the rest of us had to spend time and money for. Again, zero consequences.

I will never give yall money again.

Game packs are worth absolutely nothing unless someone is dumb enough to actually pay real cash to buy them, which of course is exactly why SDS designed the game as they did -- to encourage fools to pay additional money to trade real money for worthless "stubs" that have only the usefulness to obtain virtual trinkets that are entirely lacking in real world value.

At least you finally wised up and realized the value of your real money. When sufficient people grasp that basic reality, then SDS will have no choice but to actually design a baseball video game that actually presents the game of baseball, vice try to create a virtual SDS-controlled virtual market.

This isn't a market. It is an SDS created sham, lacking entirely in real value, as well as having no resemblance to anything one can rightly call an economy. Value is inherently scarcity. This disposition of virtual trinkets has no actual limit other than what players can grind away.

You all are just angry because people grinded to get something you think you should have. That's envy -- not economics. No one took anything from any of you. You did not fail to earn any of these trinkets because someone took them since you still could have earned them if you achieved the goals involved.

SDS lazily left open an optional way to earn the trinkets and again you are all mad because you didn't figure it out in time to use it. People earning large numbers of these worthless virtual trinkets means nothing to me because I don't play any of these DD games. It should not mean anything to you all because you could still have earned any or all of them (or none of them) based on your understanding of how the game worked.

It was your understanding of how the game worked that was incomplete.

@GodShammGod2_XBL said:

@On_a_Power_Trip_PSN

So I actually just thought about this… not to derail your thread but it’s definitely relevant what I’m about to say:

What the glitch exploiters did was way worse than ppl are realizing

They didn’t commit petty theft( gain a few free stubs or packs per se)

They sat in front of their console and monitor for hours on end to get as much as 2-4k standard packs and 100s of BIAH packs

That’s grand larceny

Also, the glitch exploiters made SDS change the fabric/DNA of their game

You can no longer grind the WBC mini szn. If this was your favorite mode to play it’s no longer playable… because instead of getting 10 standards and a BIAH pack for winning the championship. You now only get 1 stub bc that’s SDS’s current fix for the glitch

If after reading this you’re still questioning if people will be banned.. Just know they absolutely will be

Sorry, but extremism in language doesn't make your points any more valid.

There was zero actual value in this. We are dealing with virtual items, devoid of real value. Up front, I don't play DD so I don't care about the details of this so-called glitch. What I do care about is cheating versus exploiting a game weakness.

Cheating is when you add something never part of the game to fraud the outcome. Based on what I have read here, this glitch was present in the game code.

This is the difference between two real world baseball situations. What the Astros did in the World Series versus the Dodgers was cheating. Pounding on a plastic trash can from the dugout after looking on a TV at the catcher's pitch signals is cheating.

Bunting or taking an extra base because the defense has weak fielders or throwers is exploiting a weakness within the game. That's not cheating. That's the same as a runner at second looking at the indicator signs and figuring out the code and signaling back to the hitter. That isn't cheating. It is learning the opponents weaknesses within the confines of the game and exploiting those weaknesses. In this case, they are not taking anything from anyone since there is no finite cap at the number of cards players can earn.

A run cannot score unless with two outs all force plays have been satisfied. Therefore, since in your situation the run was tallied, it means that you satisfied the force out and a hit should be awarded as well as an RBI. The defining change of status is when the umpires signal the end of the play. If a runner is thrown out on a post-play effort to advance a base then it does not change the situation (hit and RBI).

The game code screwed up, and its another example of how SDS's game code fails to properly reflect the MLB rulebook.

@BreezyPath41230_XBL said:

It would be scored as a base hit in the scorebook without reaching base due to the inning ending on that same play… hit, yes…think about a walk-off, players are always granted a single, no more… the play/inning ends with the scoring running in that case
That’s just my spitball pondering on this oddity since I’ve done scoring for teams over the years at all levels

No, wrong rule interpretation. The hitter did reach base. The reason a walk off "double" can be credited by the scorer as a single is that the run scoring ends the game, but the run cannot score until all force outs that would represent the final out are satisfied. Reaching first base by the hitter would satisfy the force outs requirement, just as did the situation in the OP's scenario.

A hit can NEVER be recorded unless that hitter is able to reach first prior to being called out on a force play.

Another wrinkle in this rule is when a hitter reaches first, but then the umpire rules he rounded to second and was then tagged for the final out to end the inning. The run already scored prior to the hitter being tagged out and therefore since that out was not a force out, if the run scores prior to the tag out, then a hit is awarded as is an RBI.

@StinkyMcPooter_XBL said:

So, MLB's first proposal to the MBLPA was 'a payroll of at least $171.2 million without exceeding $245.3 million', starting in 2027.

Is this a joke? It's almost if they want a lockout.

There are about 5 teams who couldn't possibly get to the min. and 5 teams who couldn't get to the max. by 2027. The other 20 teams could live in the middle, but it's a dealbreaker from the start.

They need to totally revamp the luxury tax system. Set the tax at whatever you want, but give that money to the teams with the lowest payroll with the caveat that they spend that money on players.

You can't just tell teams like the Athletics or Miami 'hey, you need to spend an extra $100 million next year'. Nor can you tell L.A. to trim $300 million.

Take all the luxury tax money and make the lower payroll teams competitive.

MLB already has taken steps to seize teams from owners for violations of league rules, and then operates the team itself until the franchise can be sold to another owner.

So, yes, very much in fact, the league CAN tell a team it will spend at least the minimum and will not exceed the maximum, or else the owner will lose his team. And ninety percent of the owners are 100% in favor of this right now.

@Doppelganger39_PSN said:

You ask for something you know you're not going to get so when the time comes ask for what you really want it doesn't look as bad.

The lockout will end in April with no cap but with an agreed limit to deferred payments. That stops the Dodgers and Mets dead in their tracks.

They are not cancelling the season.

Wanna bet?

MLB is the ONLY professional sport in North America WITHOUT a salary cap and floor tied to revenue sharing between players and owners. Player agents are the ones driving this hidebound passion against a cap and floor. Players in the NFL, NBA, NHL, and even soccer leagues have all operated quite well on such a pay system and none of these players are exactly starving.

The refusal to accept reality is a long ago rancid mentality. There is currently a $411 million gap between the haves and the have nots and that gap keeps growing. MLB will not survive if it turns itself into a Harlem Globetrotters versus Washington Generals type of model.

The owners caved to the players previously. The players got their way and the results are what we see today. Too many teams are deciding they cannot compete for titles so why pay huge salaries at all. A few have practically unlimited bank accounts and therefore gobble up all the talent and only their ineptitude in talent evaluation and player development would stop them from dominating post season.

There will not be an MLB season in 2027 unless the players accept a salary cap/floor system and the current players will never play another game after 2026 until they agree to accept that system. This time, the owners are firm as steel and only the players fail to comprehend that reality.

How long a list of multi-year bugs do you wish to read? Go through the forum archives. It is filled with unresolved reports of bugs from titles years back.

At least with MLB 25 and earlier titles, the elevation does have an impact on ball travel. I have designed dozens of custom stadiums and in test and actual play in those venues I have seen the impact firsthand. I lump this in with too many DD players thinking the game play they experience is influenced more by the stadium settings than by the differences in the people playing the games.

Sarge,

The coding team lacks the talent to revamp the game. The coding team doesn't even have the remaining talent onboard to code up a revised menu slate without causing major game bugs. Through layoffs and coder boredom causing talented coders to go elsewhere for some true creative challenge, I think SDS is left with insufficient talent to take MLB The Show to the next level.

I also think SDS knows this.

End result? A game title that is plodding along trying to milk all the profit potential out of the title until the revenue cannot keep pace with Sony's demands for the profit sharing stipends. Then, SDS gets sold off. The executives live on their nest eggs. The employees with any talent look elsewhere in a depleted market filled with AI craze to replace humans, and eventually MLB realizes that without a video game for their product, they are losing fans and interest.

At this point, which will of course be in the future after the salary cap and floor are rammed through over the lockout and hidebound objection of the players union (driven by the agents), MLB will find another company to market an MLB themed video game.

I believe that will all take about two to three years longer to play out. I don't believe there will be a 2027 MLB season at all. At earliest, we see a revised MLB setup for the 2028 season and then around 2029 to 2030 we see MLB expand to 32 teams.

Agree with every single word you wrote. I strongly suspect there are many within SDS who agree with every word you wrote also. But, they are ordered to keep their opinions to themselves. SDS reports to SIE, and when Sony took over they implemented a raft of layoffs, and repeated the same cycle several more times over the years. Sony sees SDS and in turn MLB The Show as nothing more than a cash cow, and when they bleed it white they will sell off the pieces and keep the profits and never look back.

SDS stopped being a company that runs a unique baseball video game out of passion and desire to be the best. They are now a wholly owned corporate subsidiary. I think it's a lousy time for a truly talented video game coder to try to make a living. The industry is in a horrible state as big corporations have bought up the once independent studios and call the shots for profit maximization vice quality.

@whitejw98_MLBTS said:

The forum is ALWAYS full of complaints. I've been on here since 2018, and in that time literally every single version has been the worst thing in the history of gaming according to a majority of the comments. SDS isn't "listening" because they're smart enough to know that no matter how much you complain most of you will continue to buy the game anyway, and they know that even if they were able to fix every single one of your complaints you'll all be right back here in 2027 with a long list of new ones.

That's called progress vice stagnation. Meaning, the perpetual flow of product improvement. Complaints aren't rancid. They are the lifeblood of a smartly managed company. Smart executives listen to the complaints and see which ones represent the best areas for constant product improvement.

No one with a modicum of integrity nor honesty can claim that SDS is run by leaders who embrace constant product improvement. These jokers have whittled the talent from the coding team so severely that they cannot any longer even make relatively minor changes like menus without causing major league bugs in the gameplay.

You are right in one respect. Too many people buy the game knowing it won't feature reasonable annual upgrades.

If SDS gave two flips about customer created content, then the simple reality of letters in the game code for Stadium Creator would have been modeled this way: you select the letter shape, and then the menu allows you to scale the letter size and color. Imagine that! So simple, so entirely present in virtually all other customer content type modes.

Again, compare with 2K Sports golf title PGA Tour and its excellent course creator mode. In that mode, well over half the props are scalable, with the exceptions being buildings. But, natural props like trees are scalable. All props can be adjusted in all three axis: rotation, elevation, pitch. Imagine for a moment what such a simple approach would mean within Stadium Creator?

Need to implement a gradual slope of terrain? No problem! You just lay down the hill, and the other props like roads can pitch to match the elevation grade.

That reality is so apparent, that failure to implement the option to amend props is all three axis of movement doesn't represent an oversight. It represents a deliberate angle to ensure what the customers create is stymied relative to what the SDS team can put in the game.

And trust this truth ... compared to the serious bugs and wonky menus, plus decades old graphics levels, the lack of "competition" with stadium quality is the least of SDS's worries, or at least ought to be the least of their concerns!

And that folks is why SDS's biggest issue isn't budget, but crappy leadership!

@MetalDoc17_XBL said:

Nothing is gonna change with this game until people just stop buying stubs or purchasing the game altogether. I’m getting tired of playing 30 minutes and only getting 1.5-2.5k XP. My job is stressful enough every day for long hours to keep playing this game without having fun and not getting my time compensated for enough. Other than money, I just don’t understand why SDS is trying so hard to alienate their player base. They used not to be like this. Someone different is calling the shots and pointing them in a different direction.

Profit over customer service.

In the nutshell, that's what's going on with SDS. Eventually, enough customers grow unhappy that sales suffer and the title become unprofitable. That said, Sony calls the shots here, through their Sony Interactive Entertainment division. My guess is that SIE would sooner sell off the pieces of SDS than infuse them with sufficient operating capital to hire the code team needed to upgrade the game, or even conduct necessary alpha testing prior to release.

So, the title just plods along with minor changes to the degree that most of them are merely changes in terms and menus, and SDS cannot even get revised menus correct -- as evidenced by the menu's crashing and causing inordinate delays in MLB 26.

Yes, use the Properties menu options. There is a help file available within the game mode.

@StinkyMcPooter_XBL said:

@PriorFir4383355_XBL said:

@Sarge1387_PSN said:

Right around the same time they put out the much needed update to stadium creator

To remove all doubt, that means never!

Have some faith!!

I'm sure there's some damaged buildings or dinosaur themed features they are planning to add.

I appreciate the sincere effort at some humor. But, honestly, my sense of fun died with SDS last year. They don't even deserve scorn in the form of satire. They earned the full Monty!