Community Forum

NO!

It is shocking how so many of you fail to comprehend the magnitude of what Pete Rose did to destroy his legacy. Rose not only broke the most cardinal law in baseball hundreds of times, he lied about it hundreds of times. Moreover, when the then MLB Commissioner Bart Giamatti suspended Rose for life, based on a mountain of phone call records with bookies, dozens of detailed affidavits from bookies, and a ton of additional evidence, Rose continued to lie.

Giamatti didn't want to ban Rose. He repeatedly offered Rose sweetheart deals that would have allowed him to be reinstated after a year or so, but Rose stiff armed Giamatti and denied the veracity of MLB's evidence. This collectively and literally broke Giamatti's heart. Most everyone who knew him said it literally killed him as he died at age 51 just weeks after suspending Rose for life because Rose bulldog stubbornly refused any contrition, apology, or cooperation.

When Fay Vincent took over as MLB Commissioner when Giamatti died, it was very personal with Vincent, who was Giamatti's deputy. Vincent blamed Rose for the death, and despite that extended additional opportunities for Rose to come clean and help restore his legacy enough to earn a second chance. But, again, Rose refused all offers, going on a public relations campaign to say he was totally innocent and that MLB had unfairly attacked him.

Even for Rose's closest friends, this was too much. This is why Johnny Bench and Joe Morgan both went public and stated that as long as they had anything to say about it, Pete Rose would never be in the Hall of Fame. In short, it wasn't merely the betting on baseball, including Reds games while he was player-manager, it was his outrageous refusal to own up to it and forcing Giamatti to do something he desperately wanted to avoid doing and dying young because of having done it.

By the time Rose finally got around to admitting what everyone knew, it was far too late. He had already left a path of personal destruction behind him. Giamatti loved baseball, loved Pete Rose, and begged Rose to help him keep Rose a meaningful part of baseball after a reasonable suspension. Rose's action barred all that. Giamatti was in office as commissioner for only five months to the day before he died.

That's Rose's legacy, and it has left scars and anger that are very visceral. He got what he deserved, and he will never be in the Hall of Fame because of his actions.

I'm 61 and I think I play the game fairly well.

@Bi99O_Walnutz88_PSN

So, SDS is somehow responsible for the reliability of everyone's internet connections, and if unable to secure a computer code solution to ensure online internet freezes never happen, then they are a "garbage" company in your view?

I will say it plain. There are a great number of people in these many online sub-forums who need to do some serious growing up!

For the record, it is absolutely impossible for any video game company to prevent internet connections from experiencing glitches, and when data is transferred at such a baud rate as to allow near simultaneous exchange of megabytes of video, audio, and dynamic data, then any degree of glitch presents an impossible situation where recovery is made impossible.

If you don't think it's beyond rational option, then you are welcome to earn your own degree in computer science, and write a new code to control the internet data exchanges and tie it in with a baseball video game code to achieve your version of utopia!

I don't even work for SDS, and yet your OP here just rankles me. Of course, if you remain convinced it's all so very easy, then best of luck creating your own solution!

Consider that MLB The Show goes all the way back over 20 years. For well over half the title's history, the game was all about playing the CPU in baseball games, either individual exhibition style games or replicating a season as a specific team.

Then, along came innovations like RTTS where you would create a player and let it serve as an avatar for you as the player. Other modes started to morph allowing you to replicate the role of the GM (Franchise). These modes served the title well.

Later on, the online options started to expand into competition modes, and unfortunately they combined with a money-making intent to get people to compete for or pay for stubs. This caused 90% of the game's code changes to focus on online play.

The game needs to get back to its roots -- exhibition, RTTS, and Franchise. And while online competition is fine, it cannot become the prime focus. Doing so causes frustration. These have set in with the advent of seasonal card rosters and the requirement to rebuild all or most of your team throughout the year.

Get the pay to play aspect out of the title once and for all. You pay once and upfront and then you play for as long as you desire to. RTTS should be based on your avatar earning promotion and recognition strictly by quality of your on-the-field play, not some paid for (stubs or cash) method via equipment-based attributes. The idea that minor league players today are unable to get outfitted with the latest equipment is utterly ridiculous. The teams at all levels today provide this stuff.

Beyond this, one of the ways to keep the game original is via custom created stadiums, and despite this, Stadium Creator has been almost totally stagnant since it's inception with MLB 21. Those who have used it extensively have repeatedly advocated good changes to the basic code operation to make that mode far better at building realistic looking stadiums from all periods of baseball. It is way past time for SDS to listen to those details and implement them.

I really don't know why this persistent non-sequitur keeps materializing. This is well known truth. SDS has written entirely different code for the legacy and modern gaming consoles, and even the code among the various modern consoles must be different to handle each system.

Yet, this false claim of "either or" keeps getting asserted.

Folks, again, nothing in the support for legacy systems holds back the modern console versions unless SDS chooses those compromises for reasons having nothing to do with the various consoles.

Moreover, MLB has written into their contract with SDS the continued support for the legacy consoles and until that reality changes, SDS supporting both generations will continue.

SDS, we're really done being nice here. We pay your bills by our decision to purchase your game. Get with it, or frankly we're not going to buy your game going forward. We are out of patience here. This is from a 60-year old man who retired after a lifetime of working for a living and knowing the value of quality customer service. Your customer are speaking to you. Listen and heed, or relegate yourself to unemployment!

It's that simple! And yes, companies far larger than you have failed because they became arrogant and aloof.

I am of the firm belief that if you make a public accusation, then you are obligated to provide the details so that people can review the situation and make their own evaluations. Making such allegations without that context tends to throw an undeserved blanket of insinuation against the entire forum as well as the moderators, and I'm not sure either blanket is deserved.

@X-FREEZE-OFF-X_PSN

Why?

User ID's are fair game in my book. It's part of the requirements to post here, so why if someone is going to act foolish not ID them by that tag? This notion that people guilty of bad behavior somehow earn protection by anonymity is nonsense. We're not even talking about someone's actual name here, much less so-called doxing them by revealing where they live in hopes some psychopath harms them.

It's a virtual ID that SDS can then use to ban them from online competition within their created game, which is ultimately what SDS should be far more aggressive about cleaning up.

@jaychvz_XBL

Potty mouth isn't going to get you any support.

Those who design stadiums have had their fill of theme prop sets given there are a great number of what we call building block props that are terribly overdue. We cannot even replicate things as simple, common, and straightforward as dugout level seating, which nearly every baseball stadium in the world now features.

Add to that list stadiums where the baseline walls can be modified to mimic modern pinched in seating down the lines, bullpens off the field of play, yellow lines on the tops of the walls, outfield wall dimensions, team branding options, and signage on the walls, and the point is rather compelling the last thing we need more of are big scale theme props that can only be used for one type of concept.

Our view is Stadium Creator is designed to allow people to create baseball stadiums. Until the basics are in place to support that common goal, I think the vast majority of us designers would prefer to see no more of these themes. And yes, in this context, the word "our" means the vast majority of folks who have created stadiums.

This would of course be a very welcome addition, but before this was done, we need the Low A and High A teams added to the game, and frankly, that's a core part of MLB and MiLB baseball, which should fall within the contracts already signed with MLB. The only exceptions would be the independent minor league teams.

Fictional high school games would not be an issue. However, NCAA baseball teams would require licensing and I wonder if MLB would support that since right now SDS and MLB signed an exclusive contract where SDS agrees to promote MLB events and historic situations in the virtual gaming consoles.

A part of this would be to add the actual MiLB stadiums for AAA, AA, High A, and Low A teams.

The vertical rise of the new stairs is higher than for the stand aisleways, so it won't work well to function as stand aisleways.

However, it is small enough to function singularly to plug in to small areas and be realistic, but also to snap several together to cover a wide area and serve as accurate looking access stairs to a concourse.

Folks, this lie isn't going to endure regardless of how often it is told! SDS HAS been making MLB The Show for next generation consoles for at least three release versions now. This is precisely why there are two downloadable versions of the game. One version is for the older consoles and the other is for the latest ones.

Moreover, it has already been publicly revealed that MLB has directed that the title continue to be released in a version that works on the legacy consoles. That's why that version of the game remains available.

Frankly, it appears more like some people just cannot accept the fact that a company can work up two different versions of a game title. Or, perhaps some people just enjoy seeing folks with legacy platforms be forced to give up the game or upgrade.

Finally, the two versions of MLB The Show are not even close to looking the same. The very modeling and texturing features some folks keep complaining about were significantly updated for the next gen console game version. So, for the umpteenth time, the game is not being held back! Proof of all this is in the many screen posts people make taken from the legacy version and compared to the next gen versions. They are night and day different.

I'm convinced SDS wants total control over what is achievable with Stadium Creator. They simply do not want people able to create stadiums that would rival what their own developers can put out. This is why they will never give us what I have termed the building block props.

I would like to be proven wrong on this, but I don't think I will be.

@MVP1980-_PSN said in San Diego Studio BS:

So I wrote to San Diego Studios and asked them to add the feature where the catcher can get tricked by the runner at the plate and their response was that they try to keep the game as realistic as possible. So know I’m wondering , are women in the MLB realistic? Cause they sure as hell are promoting the creating female player feature a lot lol

I think we need to understand and accept that the management at SDS is heavily invested in political virtue signaling. Putting women in the game is a virtue signal -- "Hey! Look at me, see how open minded and friendly to women I am!"

Of course, baseball has never outrightly banned women from the game, which of course the game did to black Americans and foreign players for many years. That's why, given the reality, I applauded the inclusion of the Negro League players while I think the inclusion of female players is an empty virtue signal. There have been many women who tried to reach MLB rosters, but they were not able to. There are hundreds of highly talented players on domestic and foreign professional and collegiate teams for every single player who cracks an MLB roster for even a single day.

It is the clear distinction between honoring people who in reality never got a fair break, vice engaging in empty gestures devoid of actual meaning and significance.

Excellent list. SDS would be very wise to adopt this!

I agree completely. While neither RTTS nor Franchise is without issues that should be corrected, both are at their zenith with MLB 24. There are less bugs in both the menu selection steps as well as the game code execution.

It is rooted in the use of hexadecimal code to count and store numerical values. The Hex code based numbers roll over after 255.

@Weshill627_PSN said in I find it hilarious:

@TeakAUS_PSN And I wonder why MLB is never nominated for sports game of the year? They listen to people like you who give them terrible advice and instead of improving the online experience. They spend all their time creating offline modes lol.

SDS best bet is remove all offline modes and go strictly online only. Guarantee that would be better than anything we've had over the past 8 years.

That's the most ridiculous suggestion I have ever seen written by anyone in the many years I have played MLB The Show. If you really think the offline modes are that unimportant, then keep your opinion to yourself, because it grossly flies in the face of reality.

I suggest you get out more. You seriously need an awakening that there is a far wider and fuller community around you than you currently seem capable of comprehending!

Well folks, it has been about ten months since MLB 24 was released. So, truth is we are close to Thanksgiving and in about six weeks we will see 2025 roll in and soon thereafter MLB 25 is the focus and the release. So, the ride in terms of new released content is over for MLB 24.

In many ways this is part and parcel of the focus on DD content, with the periodic release of cards, equipment, packs, etc ...

Truth is, and this is my root opinion, the prime motivation to play this game should be to play virtual baseball games for its own rewards and joy of the game. For well over 20 years, that was the only draw to this game, and it was more than enough to keep people interested in it.

It's the game, people ... not the cards, the rosters, the fancy designed conquest boards, or the like -- but the simple and beautiful game of baseball -- that's the draw and always will be.

No, no one should "take your word" on any of this. Fact remains, you should have either kept this a private messaging between you and the moderators, or came right out and made it clear to everyone what you were concerned about.

No one gets a free pass given that no one making such an accusation should be taken without healthy investigation to parse fact from fiction. If that statement offends you, then perhaps you are just trolling for reaction because no one who makes a serious point would be offended by that very righteous response.

BTW: I saw no ridicule directed to you in this thread.