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  • TheGoaler_PSNT Offline
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    Will he get a lengthy suspension, and all of his cards taken out of the game?
    Just kidding with that, but how can you be so disrespectful? I mean, Manfred was in that HOF feel-good atmosphere yesterday, but today some dink on the Phillies has to ruin things 🤪
    https://youtu.be/huzYji2OAD4?si=Yo3QrajznS7D3XLa

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    @TheGoaler_PSN said in Bryce Harper:

    Will he get a lengthy suspension, and all of his cards taken out of the game?
    Just kidding with that, but how can you be so disrespectful? I mean, Manfred was in that HOF feel-good atmosphere yesterday, but today some dink on the Phillies has to ruin things 🤪
    https://youtu.be/huzYji2OAD4?si=Yo3QrajznS7D3XLa

    Harper well not being completely right (probably shouldn't have yelled at Manfred)

    Harper and other players are angry that Manfred wants to implement a salary cap, so of course the players are against that. Manfred should have known he wouldn't be welcome in a MLB teams clubhouse.

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  • TheGoaler_PSNT Offline
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    @samguenther1987_PSN said in Bryce Harper:

    @TheGoaler_PSN said in Bryce Harper:

    Will he get a lengthy suspension, and all of his cards taken out of the game?
    Just kidding with that, but how can you be so disrespectful? I mean, Manfred was in that HOF feel-good atmosphere yesterday, but today some dink on the Phillies has to ruin things 🤪
    https://youtu.be/huzYji2OAD4?si=Yo3QrajznS7D3XLa

    Harper was in the right, Manfred wants to implement a salary cap, of course the players are against that. Manfred should have known he wouldn't be welcome in a MLB teams clubhouse.

    I am a fan of Bryce, although he's messed up my Mets with the Nats, and nowadays in Philly.
    That said, cursing at a commissioner is a no-no. Mature adults handle things in classier ways, at least I think they should. Manfred didn't have to clap back with a cuss word either. Now both sides are more divided than ever. Strike incoming?

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  • Rubbaneck34_XBLR Offline
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    A salary cap should be implemented as no one player should make anything remotely close to what Ohtani, Soto & Judge makes.

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    @TheGoaler_PSN said in Bryce Harper:

    @samguenther1987_PSN said in Bryce Harper:

    @TheGoaler_PSN said in Bryce Harper:

    Will he get a lengthy suspension, and all of his cards taken out of the game?
    Just kidding with that, but how can you be so disrespectful? I mean, Manfred was in that HOF feel-good atmosphere yesterday, but today some dink on the Phillies has to ruin things 🤪
    https://youtu.be/huzYji2OAD4?si=Yo3QrajznS7D3XLa

    Harper was in the right, Manfred wants to implement a salary cap, of course the players are against that. Manfred should have known he wouldn't be welcome in a MLB teams clubhouse.

    I am a fan of Bryce, although he's messed up my Mets with the Nats, and nowadays in Philly.
    That said, cursing at a commissioner is a no-no. Mature adults handle things in classier ways, at least I think they should. Manfred didn't have to clap back with a cuss word either. Now both sides are more divided than ever. Strike incoming?

    Ok yah fair enough, we all know that Harper is a very animated person though but yes your right cursing at a commissioner shouldn't happen.... even if it is Manfred.

    A strike is absolutely looming in my opinion. For context the NHL lost a entire season because of the salary cap negotiations, hopefully nothing that bad happens here.

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  • PriorFir4383355_XBLP Offline
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    Name any other corporation where an employee could publicly curse out the CEO and not get immediately fired? What Bryce Harper did was way past merely disrespectful. It was a shocking violation of basic decorum. One of Harper's teammates literally pulled him away from Manfred.

    MLB is the ONLY major professional sports league in America not already operating on a hard cap and hard floor pay scheme, and the irony of ironies is that NBA players get paid about 51% of league revenues, NFL players get paid about 49% of league revenues, and MLB players only get paid about 47% of league revenues.

    Ponder that reality the next time you hear one of these relatively few high paid player in MLB talk about players maximizing their incomes as a group. Truth is, baseball is skewed, with a few teams and a few players getting contracts beyond comprehension, while most players and many teams work and operate on a vastly lower income basis.

    The players in my view need to come to Jesus on this one and accept the reality that the luxury tax didn't work to promote competition. Some teams (cough ... cough ... the A's) decided to pocket the league revenue and not pay players with it, and other teams like the Dodgers, Cubs, Mets, and Yankees could not care less about paying the luxury tax. The players are not maximizing their yearly incomes by this method.

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    @TheGoaler_PSN said in Bryce Harper:

    @samguenther1987_PSN said in Bryce Harper:

    @TheGoaler_PSN said in Bryce Harper:

    Will he get a lengthy suspension, and all of his cards taken out of the game?
    Just kidding with that, but how can you be so disrespectful? I mean, Manfred was in that HOF feel-good atmosphere yesterday, but today some dink on the Phillies has to ruin things 🤪
    https://youtu.be/huzYji2OAD4?si=Yo3QrajznS7D3XLa

    Harper was in the right, Manfred wants to implement a salary cap, of course the players are against that. Manfred should have known he wouldn't be welcome in a MLB teams clubhouse.

    I am a fan of Bryce, although he's messed up my Mets with the Nats, and nowadays in Philly.
    That said, cursing at a commissioner is a no-no. Mature adults handle things in classier ways, at least I think they should. Manfred didn't have to clap back with a cuss word either. Now both sides are more divided than ever. Strike incoming?

    Lockout, not a strike, and in my firm view, 2026 will be the last season we see played without MLB operating on a revenue-percentage-based salary cap and floor. And it won't matter to the great majority of the owners what year MLB regular season play resumes. If the MLBPA continues their emotional agenda against a cap, then many of them will never play another MLB game in their lives! The owners this time are perfectly willing to forego a single MLB or MiLB game until the cap/floor structure is in place, whether it happens in 2027, 2028, or 2030!

    Why? These majority of owners are fed up with entering the regular season without any realistic chance at winning the World Series or even making the expanded playoffs. They would rather risk the utter destruction of MLB than continue under what they conclude is a terribly skewed competition model.

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  • LHUBison58_XBLL Offline
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    Bryce Harper is real rich, he must like being Scott Boras’s Baghdad Bob. Truth is Harper is one of the 10% in the league who take home 90% of the player salary. Then he acts all tough about it? Come on.

    A greatly expanded revenue sharing system, a floor and a ceiling is fair. The players will still get paid, but the elite 3% won’t get as much.

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    @PriorFir4383355_XBL said in Bryce Harper:

    Why? These majority of owners are fed up with entering the regular season without any realistic chance at winning the World Series or even making the expanded playoffs.

    Number of Different MLB teams to win a Ring this Century: 16
    NYY
    ARI
    ANA
    FLA
    BOS
    CWS
    STL
    PHI
    SF
    KC
    CHC
    HOU
    WAS
    LAD
    ATL
    TEX

    Number of Different NFL teams to win a Ring this Century: 13
    BAL
    NE
    TB
    PIT
    IND
    NYG
    NO
    GB
    SEA
    DEN
    PHI
    KC
    LAR

    Number of Different NBA teams to win a Ring this Century: 13
    LAL
    SA
    DET
    MIA
    BOS
    DAL
    MIA
    GS
    CLE
    TOR
    MIL
    DEN
    OKC

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  • SaveFarris_PSNS Offline
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    @LHUBison58_XBL said in Bryce Harper:

    A greatly expanded revenue sharing system, a floor and a ceiling is fair. The players will still get paid, but the elite 3% won’t get as much.

    Expanded Revenue sharing won't work (at least the way MLB currently defines it) because they base it on revenue, not market size. A team like St. Louis is punished for being a small market with enormous revenue while a team like Washington is rewarded for being a large market with smaller revenues.

    The problem isn't people like Harper and Ohtani getting mega-contracts Their respective teams have already earned their investment back and then some. It's teams like Miami, Oakland, and Tampa getting outdrawn by a college baseball team 5 years running.

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  • PriorFir4383355_XBLP Offline
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    @SaveFarris_PSN said in Bryce Harper:

    @PriorFir4383355_XBL said in Bryce Harper:

    Why? These majority of owners are fed up with entering the regular season without any realistic chance at winning the World Series or even making the expanded playoffs.

    Number of Different MLB teams to win a Ring this Century: 16
    NYY
    ARI
    ANA
    FLA
    BOS
    CWS
    STL
    PHI
    SF
    KC
    CHC
    HOU
    WAS
    LAD
    ATL
    TEX

    Number of Different NFL teams to win a Ring this Century: 13
    BAL
    NE
    TB
    PIT
    IND
    NYG
    NO
    GB
    SEA
    DEN
    PHI
    KC
    LAR

    Number of Different NBA teams to win a Ring this Century: 13
    LAL
    SA
    DET
    MIA
    BOS
    DAL
    MIA
    GS
    CLE
    TOR
    MIL
    DEN
    OKC

    LOL!! Might want to compare apples to apples there!

    1925 was an entirely different market for MLB, with the reserve clause and that didn't thankfully go away until the early 1970's. The current big market domination of MLB didn't start until around 2000. So, take a look at it from that point.

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  • markemark_NSWM Offline
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    I wonder if the same ones taking the owners side are the same ones who always defend SDS devs.

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  • SaveFarris_PSNS Offline
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    @LHUBison58_XBL said in Bryce Harper:

    Bryce Harper is real rich, he must like being Scott Boras’s Baghdad Bob. Truth is Harper is one of the 10% in the league who take home 90% of the player salary. Then he acts all tough about it? Come on.

    The Phillies revenue has increased 52% since signing Harper. Who should get the bulk of the profits: Edmundo Sosa and Tanner Banks?!?

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  • SaveFarris_PSNS Offline
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    @PriorFir4383355_XBL said in Bryce Harper:

    LOL!! Might want to compare apples to apples there!

    1925 was an entirely different market for MLB, with the reserve clause and that didn't thankfully go away until the early 1970's. The current big market domination of MLB didn't start until around 2000. So, take a look at it from that point.

    Might want to read closer, buddy. All numbers since 2000.

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  • PriorFir4383355_XBLP Offline
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    Take a look at it from how many small market teams won the WS since 2000. That list was and remains one team -- Kansas City and that was back in 2015. Since then, the closest WS champion to a small market was Houston and that's not a small market as Houston is one of the largest markets in the nation.

    In fact, the second smallest market team to win a WS since 2000 was the Braves in 2021! And no one is going to argue that Atlanta metro is a small market.

    On the other hand, peruse your list of NFL and NBA teams.

    NFL: Tampa Bay, Pittsburgh, Indianapolis, New Orleans, Green Bay are all firmly in the small market category.

    NBA: Oklahoma City, Denver, San Antonio, Milwaukee are likewise all in the small market category.

    That reality is precisely what the MLB owners are looking at.

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  • yankblan_PSNY Online
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    Keep the hardline boys, no cap.

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  • SaveFarris_PSNS Offline
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    @PriorFir4383355_XBL said in Bryce Harper:

    Take a look at it from how many small market teams won the WS since 2000. That list was and remains one team -- Kansas City and that was back in 2015. Since then, the closest WS champion to a small market was Houston and that's not a small market as Houston is one of the largest markets in the nation.

    Number of teams in US Top 10 Markets:
    Area---MLB---NFL---NBA
    NYC 2 2 2
    LA 2 2 2
    CHI 2 1 1
    DFW 1 1 1
    PHI 1 1 1
    HOU 1 1 1
    ATL 1 1 1
    DC 2 1 1
    BOS 1 1 1
    SF 2 1 1

    Total 15 12 12

    NFL and NBA have more smaller markets winning because they have more smaller market teams.

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  • LHUBison58_XBLL Offline
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    @SaveFarris_PSN I’ve spent considerable amounts of time on this. I suggest you do the same. What are you afraid of with a cap?

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    @SaveFarris_PSN said in Bryce Harper:

    @PriorFir4383355_XBL said in Bryce Harper:

    Take a look at it from how many small market teams won the WS since 2000. That list was and remains one team -- Kansas City and that was back in 2015. Since then, the closest WS champion to a small market was Houston and that's not a small market as Houston is one of the largest markets in the nation.

    Number of teams in US Top 10 Markets:
    Area---MLB---NFL---NBA
    NYC 2 2 2
    LA 2 2 2
    CHI 2 1 1
    DFW 1 1 1
    PHI 1 1 1
    HOU 1 1 1
    ATL 1 1 1
    DC 2 1 1
    BOS 1 1 1
    SF 2 1 1

    Total 15 12 12

    NFL and NBA have more smaller markets winning because they have more smaller market teams.

    Easier to define. No team not in the top quarter of payroll has won a World Series in 25+ years.

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    I think it's all an indictment of the world we live in. Be it sports, politics, or day to day life, class, morals, values, and civility are just absent. As far as a salary cap goes I'm so tired of owners crying poverty then overpaying for players. I'm old, I've seen plenry of strikes and lockouts in all my sports.....millionaires fighting with billionaires but one thing they have in common are owners crying the blues and a year or two after a strike the stupid contracts start again. As a Met fan I know it all to well as I just celebrated Bobby Bonilla Day recently.

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