@Dolenz_PSN said in All Star Finalists - Potential All Star Cards:
@Teak2112_MLBTS said in All Star Finalists - Potential All Star Cards:
@Dolenz_PSN said in All Star Finalists - Potential All Star Cards:
@Teak2112_MLBTS said in All Star Finalists - Potential All Star Cards:
Fantasy relies heavily on counting statistics like R and RBI, which may not be appropriate. Further, and more importantly, it doesnt consider defense.
And in defense of the fans here, only Edman and Teoscar are unworthy, and Edman isnt going to win his vote
So are you trying to tell me that Muncy is more worthy than Eugenio Suarez?
Hes on par with Manny anyway.
And people give the fans [censored] (deservedly), but the players can be just as bad with their voting
First of all I didn't say Manny did I. Although, at least to Manny's credit he leads National League 3B in WAR and Batting Average. Suarez has 25 HRs to Muncy's 13. 67 RBIs to Muncy's 53. Suarez even has the higher batting average.
But now you got me curious
Among NL Shortstops Betts is 7th in War. Behind Masyn Winn. But I am not arguing that Winn is a worthy candidate because the obvious votes are Turner, Lindor and De La Cruz
And there are several NL OF's more worthy than Pages and Teoscar. Corbin Carroll, James Wood, Tatis Jr.
So, you say fantasy league stuff and the stats they use is not a good indicator then please let us know what stats you are using and which you are dismissing to say that Muncy, Betts, Hernandez or Pages belongs?
But, I agree that any voting by any group is going to be biased.
The reason MLB does fan vote is simple. If they let the players with the most votes and popularity start then it is more likely those voters will tune in to the game. And after all that is their main concern Getting people in the stadium and watching on TV.
In the end it does not matter since the game does not determine home field advantage in the WS anymore. It's nothing more than a spectacle.
I take back Betts, his year isnt that great. Great defense, but not the hitter he used to be.
Manny and Muncy are very similar in both WAR and OPS. Manny gets more hits (which also gives him a higher slugging) but Muncy has a higher obp. Of course, people dont watch the all star game to see walks, Manny is going to win that vote and Saurez gets in as a backup
Tatis shows how WAR can be misleading: his defense is really bringing it up for a non premium defensive position. Really his year and Pages are similar in the same way Manny and Muncy are, but they play different positions realistically. tatis walks more, Pages has better avg/slg. Difference is Pages has the better ops too. Hes the better hitter at this stage in the season.
At the end of the day though, Betts, Edman, Teoscar, and Muncy arent going to make it unless they win the vote. Pages will get in because hes the second best CF in the NL this year (someone who can play good CF defense will make it as a backup) and Smith and Freeman will win their votes. Freeman doesnt deserve it over Alonso, but lots of people dislike Pete (for good reason honestly)