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So I was laying in bed and got up to write this post. I had a few frustrating games on MLB The Show tonight and turned it off. When reflecting on everything, I started thinking about everything going on in the world with this epidemic. Many human beings have lost their lives due to this epidemic. Many families have been through a horific experience with their loved ones dying and not being able to be with them during their final time on earth. Many others are dealing with unemployment and wondering how they are going to eat or pay their bills. Hopefully, everyone on the forum is safe and not having to deal with these issues. I am fortunate in the fact I have been working from home and haven't yet (and hopefully don't) have to deal with this epidemic first hand.

Now I am as guilty as others about being frustrated with the game but when you turn on CNN or some other news channel, having issues with an online game is extremely trivial. Maybe SDS employees are dealing with some of those issues I mentioned before. I am going to refrain from posting on frustrations of the game and hope when this passes that they can then work on the game. I do hope everyone stays safe.

You took a 7-0 lead in the top of the 2nd and I was about to quit until you started watching your HR's the entire time. I then decided I was just going to play it out and waste your time. Was pretty fun putting up a 12 spot and watching all 5 HR's at full length. Don't be a peter and you would have got the win in the 2nd and been on your way to another game. Instead you got the loss and deleted your pitching staff.

Why do people feel they need to watch HR replays? Games are long enough as it is. I will do it when you do though.

Relievers get tired walking in from the pen.

Just amazing how 4 years I have played this game and never thought of any cheating. Xbox gets involved and cheats are out in less than a month.

Can't score 4 runs off Cole because I have to hit into 5 double plays on good swings. Also enjoy the gold glove fielders every where diving like it's a sportscenter highlight reel.

@joshdcarr25 said in I really hate online play.:

I hate ranked seasons because of this. It feels like whoever has the weaker lineup gets the favored outcome. I played someone recently that had a losing record and .231 average. My average in ranked is .301. I had 16 dead or near dead center good/okays for outs and lost the game. I usually can tell early if I am going to lose when I start getting an obsessive amount of good/okay and my pitches float down the middle despite perfect input. It sucks because online play is my favorite but it's ruining it for me.

There are a ton of tell tale signs that show you will probably lose the game. If they don't exist, it is usually a very early quit for my opponent. If they are, I am either going to lose or it will be a dog fight.
Jumpy pci when hitting
Good/good+ rarely results in hits
Throw either down the middle or ball - jumpy pci when pitching
Opponents get hits on everything
Strikes on corners
Fielding blunders (quite a few different ones)
Base stealers get very poor jumps
Extra long or very slow returns when rounding a base

Pretty sure there are a few I am forgetting but when you see these signs it is best to cut bait and quit or you will get get frustrated and it is a complete waste of time. The ONLY way to win these games (which is possible) is if your opponent swings at balls outside the zone or can't hit pitches down the middle. Based on these, I can usually tell within the first 3 innings whether I am going to win. Game is extremely predictable if you pay attention to the signs.

I have heard several streamers telling their people to sell certain cards like Cabrera to do collections. The only people that have collections done are:
people that spent money
flipped cards on the market
got extremely lucky with pulls
great players that win 12 games in BR and events

Lets be real, This is not most of us and if you haven't done these things, you are not close to collections. I have played this game a ton. Did all TA's, last BR with a 9 win reward, 60 event wins, 18 RS games and out of probably 3-400 show, ballin and TA packs I pulled 3 diamonds worth 50k. I have bought some live series cards but not even completed one division. I'm not mad, this is just how it is. At this rate it would take forever to do collections and frankly by the time I get them done there will be 1st baseman on par with Ortiz.

So why grind 40 event wins for Cabrera and sell him for say 1/3rd of Acuna's price tag? Think of it this way, at Cabrera's current price you would have to play this event 7 different times just to be able to afford Trout. Wouldn't your RS team be better with Cabrera, 90 Donaldson, etc rather than paying them stubs to Judge?

I really started thinking of this after selling Donaldson, Lofton and Cabrera. Those 3 cards could get me Mookie. My RS team would be better with those 3 than a Mookie card.

Just a food for thought thread because I think the majority of people playing are in a similar boat to me and are far away from completing collections.

Last two days, every pitch is either right over the plate or a ft outside. Never had this issue in an other show game. Every time I square up a fastball it is foul. I have now hit more foul HR's than regular. Can't even react to pitches or recognize them. Had no issues on Thursday. Had someone 30 pitches deep with their reliever dotting pitches. My guys are uncontrollable after a batter.

I can only imagine how other people are feeling. I am 34-13 in HOF event and 20-6 in RS and it just hasn't been fun the last 2 days. I have tried every pitching I can and every way. Particular enjoyed the 2 perfect meter pitches missing the mark by 2 feet.

Getting pretty old having to outscore people while throwing meatballs every fckn pitch. Analog, pulse, meter - it doesn't matter. Good release, bad release. They all seem to find their way right down the middle. Another absolutely worthless patch. If this is how pitching is going to be the whole time, just let me know.

Why doesn't the pitch speeds on practice, play cpu, etc match the online pitch speeds. Why isn't HOF/Legend offline the same as online? I know you can adjust sliders but doesn't make any sense why these wouldn't match.

Event lineups being saved was great. Big QOL add.

@foxfire1545_psn said in Question about online and offline pitch speeds:

Online and offline don't play the same but don't ever question it. Nothing to see here, move along.

I'm not talking about the game play as online presents other variables. I'm just talking pitch speeds. I think the speeds you see on legend in DD should be the same you see for play cpu, custom practice, etc.

that people are playing this game with different pitch speeds. I am sitting in all star and have to sell out to hit a fastball yet a streamer on legend I can call out balls and strikes almost immediately. Not sure what happened but the game the last few weeks has pretty much been unenjoyable and borderline unplayable. Can I physically play it? Yes but when I have to sell out on all star to hit a 95 fastball and have to take 3 innings to see what pitches my opponent likes to throw just to hit, it isn't playable. I'll hang around in the 500's and get my 40 wins at some point but when my squad gets on I'll be jumping over to PUBG immediately.

I typically enjoy a challenge but do you really think I want to play this game on HOF/Legend when I can't read/react pitches on all star. Once again, the first month was pretty fun. Guess that is the expected life cycle of this game. This game hasn't been a challenge the last few weeks but a joke. Game is the same every year because someone at SDS thinks everyone can play everyone despite what internet connection you have. Game is long overdue for a ping indicator. No sense for 95 to feel like 80 one game and 110 the others. I guess as long as it plays well for pitching_rebel and other content creators it's all good.

@mcgalamaad_psn said in MLB The Sinker 21:

It baffles my mind that they can’t at least nerf this pitch a tad…at least make it flatten out if you throw it high in the zone. So OP it’s really annoying.

The only thing they need to do is to keep it from rising out of the hand. Right now it appears to be an off-speed pitch out of the hand. It should leave the hand on the same plane as a fastball but doesn't. Huge issue in this game and why sinkers are the best pitch in the game by far. They haven't fixed this in years so I would assume they can't at this point. Sinkers would be good but with this glitch are super OP.

@earvgotti_xbl said in HOF is on crack:

It takes a while to get used to but once you start seeing pitchers like deGrom over and over you're gonna be smacking everyone around

Not true. There are days you can easily turn on DeGrom and other days it is just a blur and you have no chance. On those days, all the bp in the world won't help you.

@t-rox_09_mlbts said in HOF is on crack:

@suntlacrimae50_psn said in HOF is on crack:

@t-rox_09_mlbts said in HOF is on crack:

@suntlacrimae50_psn said in HOF is on crack:

No, you will not. Most games I've played, from the 400's to the 800's, are K fests peppered with dingers from both players.

Plus many opponents don't pitch respectfully.

RS is garbage.

Sorry bro ranked seasons is definitely not perfect but if you are striking out a whole lot that is not the game, that is you.

Nah, it's both. I'll take my lumps on this, but even C Brev refers to people pitching respectfully.

The pitching in the game is buffed crazy. Most people aren't WS Gods like you, buddy, and don't spend time "practicing" for RS games (wait, I know: you don't either, right?).

Ultimately, I guess all competitive online leagues are like this -- people playing like D-bags and milking the meta for all its worth.

Whatever.

Relax pal im not even that good at the game. Pitching has issues as well as hitting but striking out 18 times out of 27 outs is absurd and hard to blame the game for that. Anyways good luck. Didnt mean to get your panties in a bunch. Remember, its just a video game. If it makes you this miserable just don't play.

Actually it isn't. I have made WS every season and once struck out 31 times in a 12 inning game. Really hard for me to believe people can't see the server/connection issues (whatever it is) that cause the ball to look like 120 mph and makes pitches impossible to read and react. When this happens I have to sell out for fastballs or simply guess pitch and location and hope I am right. Some people rarely see them and some see them all the time. Seems like the coast people rarely experience this. It is something SDS really needs to look in to.

I'll take 18 with the souvenirs and exchanges 10 times over this pile of [censored] where every pitch is down the middle or a ball. The reason hitting is easy is because you have to serve the ball on a silver fckn platter.

The only way I can half enjoy this game is to play on a mobile hot spot. That is so ridiculous it is laughable.

@JWKEEP_ said in Why is this game so hated? Voice you complaints here.:

@Trudgeon said in Why is this game so hated? Voice you complaints here.:

Playing online, there is hardly any skill involved/needed. What’s the point of pci and perfect pitch releases if the ball is thrown down the middle and if you can hit homeruns on pitches where the pci isn’t even on it. Yet you can get perfect perfect fly outs all the time. It’s not fun playing a game where you have no control over it

I played yesterday hit a perfect/perfect with a right hander and was a Warner track fly out to right center. I looked at the pitch and was low and away fast ball. Now many batters have opposite field power. So even though it was perfect/ perfect was was a perfect hit for that pitch and location. Not every hit can be a home run. No need to complain all the time just have fun with the game.

I think you would be surprised at how many people could take losses if they thought the game play was fair. Match me up against players with similar ping and if someone can beat me 10-0 congrats! More than likely an opponent with similar pings my user input would match the result. With the connections and matchmaking like they currently are it is difficult to get excited about winning a game 10-0. Was my opponent seeing the 120 mph sinkers that I see a lot? Was he getting good input for pitching and the balls going no where near where they were putting them? That is what comes to mind when I win.

@Yankee_Nation said in Stop getting mad at people who watch their homeruns:

I see alot of bashing on here directed towards people that watch their homeruns & I don’t know why people take it as being disrespectful. Have you ever seen Degrom, Cole or Sale at a post game press conference call out ESPN for replaying a homer they gave up during their start?....When you watch a game on tv and a player hits a mammoth homer don’t you look forward to seeing it in a slow mo replay?.....Look, If I hit an absolute moonshot or if my player does a sweet bat flip I replay it and save it to share with my friends on twitter. I’m not trying to disrespect you AT ALL. I’m just enjoying my accomplishment & sharing it with my friends. Don’t be so sensitive, I’m not dissing you or disrespecting you. Relax boys, Don’t take everything so personal.

Or you could act like you have hit a HR before in an online video game. It is a complete waste of time. Does motivate me to try to bury you and hit a dozen hr's and watch them all.

@MINISTRO787 said in Predetermined losses?:

@abbyspapa said in Predetermined losses?:

@MINISTRO787 said in Predetermined losses?:

Ahhh yes... The old "comeback logic & predetermined losses" themes are back!

Just like The Silver and Bronze Marlins vs Diamond deGrom and the mighty Mets yesterday. That comeback and subsequent loss was definitely predetermined...

But it does make you wonder how you program a video game to replicate that reality. How would you code the "That's baseball" variability?

You got me brother... I don't believe in comeback logic and much less in predetermined losses. Just trying to spread some humor on something I personally find propostuous. The ball is round... Anyone can win a baseball game.

It has been proven to exist in other sports games. It is a way to keep people engaged, keep them from quitting and having them spend money. There is a reason in Madden and you're up 14-0 that your guy fumbles. The Show is just like any other sports game. They can't hide it forever. It will come out eventually. They denied it in Madden for years until someone found the code.