MLB The Sinker 21
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@washednd_psn said in MLB The Sinker 21:
@grizzbear55_psn said in MLB The Sinker 21:
@mcgalamaad_psn said in MLB The Sinker 21:
It baffles my mind that they can’t at least nerf this pitch a tad…at least make it flatten out if you throw it high in the zone. So OP it’s really annoying.
Changeup and sliders high in zone are unrealistic, why not mention those? Easier to hit? If people are gonna use excuse of realism in arguement then don't half @ss it. Argue it 100% not just what benefits you. (when i say you i mean in general )
IMO there's a big penalty when you actually hit one of these pitches in the game. I feel like any high slider is easy to read and I've hit so many HR's on these pitches. So personally I think they already punish guys who throw those pitches.
Not the point, shouldn't have to look in that part of zone for that type of pitch at all. You aim any of those pitches there should be a massive accuracy penalty.
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How about a screwball that nips the top outside corner of the zone?
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Killer obviously abuses this pitch. Its a complete joke you can throw a sinker high in the SZ and it still whip up before breaking down.
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It might just be impossible to code it so that a pitch moves differently based on where it is located in the zone. I don't have any basis for that it's just a thought.
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Tons of people do this in ranked. Sure it’s annoying but you rock it a couple times and they tend to stop throwing it there.
It’s not as bad as last year tho, felt like Oprah made the game and was handing out sinkers to everyone. You get a sinker, you get a sinker, everyone gets a sinker.
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It’s physics are totally shot. It comes out like a breaking pitch and seems to speed up at the last second. It’s not unhittable but it is off and needs to be reworked
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@grizzbear55_psn said in MLB The Sinker 21:
@washednd_psn said in MLB The Sinker 21:
@grizzbear55_psn said in MLB The Sinker 21:
@mcgalamaad_psn said in MLB The Sinker 21:
It baffles my mind that they can’t at least nerf this pitch a tad…at least make it flatten out if you throw it high in the zone. So OP it’s really annoying.
Changeup and sliders high in zone are unrealistic, why not mention those? Easier to hit? If people are gonna use excuse of realism in arguement then don't half @ss it. Argue it 100% not just what benefits you. (when i say you i mean in general )
IMO there's a big penalty when you actually hit one of these pitches in the game. I feel like any high slider is easy to read and I've hit so many HR's on these pitches. So personally I think they already punish guys who throw those pitches.
Not the point, shouldn't have to look in that part of zone for that type of pitch at all. You aim any of those pitches there should be a massive accuracy penalty.
I disagree. The pitch should just flatten out and lose the break. If I want to threw a slider I should be able to throw it wherever I want.
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@genopolanco_psn said in MLB The Sinker 21:
How about a screwball that nips the top outside corner of the zone?
The fix for these pitches is to have the strike zone shrink some when the off speed pitch is up in the zone. Just eliminate top 1/4 of zone when you throw off speed up because it would be called a strike up there.
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@washednd_psn said in MLB The Sinker 21:
@genopolanco_psn said in MLB The Sinker 21:
How about a screwball that nips the top outside corner of the zone?
The fix for these pitches is to have the strike zone shrink some when the off speed pitch is up in the zone. Just eliminate top 1/4 of zone when you throw off speed up because it would be called a strike up there.
Either way i agree some sort of a more drastic fix is needed. I was just offering 1 of many possibilities.
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@mcgalamaad_psn said in MLB The Sinker 21:
It baffles my mind that they can’t at least nerf this pitch a tad…at least make it flatten out if you throw it high in the zone. So OP it’s really annoying.
The only thing they need to do is to keep it from rising out of the hand. Right now it appears to be an off-speed pitch out of the hand. It should leave the hand on the same plane as a fastball but doesn't. Huge issue in this game and why sinkers are the best pitch in the game by far. They haven't fixed this in years so I would assume they can't at this point. Sinkers would be good but with this glitch are super OP.
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@d_e_m_i_s_e_psn said in MLB The Sinker 21:
@mcgalamaad_psn said in MLB The Sinker 21:
It baffles my mind that they can’t at least nerf this pitch a tad…at least make it flatten out if you throw it high in the zone. So OP it’s really annoying.
The only thing they need to do is to keep it from rising out of the hand. Right now it appears to be an off-speed pitch out of the hand. It should leave the hand on the same plane as a fastball but doesn't. Huge issue in this game and why sinkers are the best pitch in the game by far. They haven't fixed this in years so I would assume they can't at this point. Sinkers would be good but with this glitch are super OP.
Key word "been like that for years" hence problem with MP.
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@killerpresence4 said in MLB The Sinker 21:
@mcgalamaad_psn said in MLB The Sinker 21:
@killerpresence4 said in MLB The Sinker 21:
@mcgalamaad_psn said in MLB The Sinker 21:
It baffles my mind that they can’t at least nerf this pitch a tad…at least make it flatten out if you throw it high in the zone. So OP it’s really annoying.
Or you can learn to hit the pitch!!! Lol
Totally missed the point lol
Nope didn’t miss the point, your just making a complaint that is made every year about the “OP” sinker. They’re not going to fix it just like they didn’t fix it last year or the year before that or the year before that. Instead I would just concentrate on learning to hit the pitch. Btw, I used to be in your camp when it came to the sinker but I made a concerted effort to not allow myself to get beat with it. Now it’s go up there at your own risk. I’ll turn it around if you abuse it.
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Don’t nerf the pitch, just don’t give it to every pitcher who throws a 2 seamer.
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@mcgalamaad_psn said in MLB The Sinker 21:
It baffles my mind that they can’t at least nerf this pitch a tad…at least make it flatten out if you throw it high in the zone. So OP it’s really annoying.
It definitely needs a slight nerf but it’s not as bad as last year.
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@mcgalamaad_psn said in MLB The Sinker 21:
It baffles my mind that they can’t at least nerf this pitch a tad…at least make it flatten out if you throw it high in the zone. So OP it’s really annoying.
the only thing they need to nerf is the name.. Most guys throw 2 seamers and not sinkers. They also need to figure the velocity out on the pitch as a 93 mph sinker and a 93 mph 4seam are not coming in at the same speed. The sinker is more like 98 for no reason.
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The weirdest part is instead of actually attempting to do anything... They just gave up, made it a meme, and gave an absurd amount of pitchers a sinker.
Now we are at 102mph sinkers with 99 break 99 control.
I totally agree with the pitch location nerf, or just eliminate the ability to aim it high, the low sinkers look fine, and work how they are suppose too, it’s a primary pitch for some guys that needs to be utilized, it’s just not a secondary pitch for the other 90% of pitchers.
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@mcgalamaad_psn said in MLB The Sinker 21:
It baffles my mind that they can’t at least nerf this pitch a tad…at least make it flatten out if you throw it high in the zone. So OP it’s really annoying.
It's been OP since 2019, kind of stupid that they never nerfed it.
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@charterbus_psn said in MLB The Sinker 21:
The weirdest part is instead of actually attempting to do anything... They just gave up, made it a meme, and gave an absurd amount of pitchers a sinker.
Now we are at 102mph sinkers with 99 break 99 control.
I totally agree with the pitch location nerf, or just eliminate the ability to aim it high, the low sinkers look fine, and work how they are suppose too, it’s a primary pitch for some guys that needs to be utilized, it’s just not a secondary pitch for the other 90% of pitchers.
100% the pitch is totally normal when it’s thrown low, looks the way it should. When it’s thrown high it originally looks like a breaking ball, and seems to speed up in a crazy way. I consider myself a good hitter but I look totally mismatched sometimes on those high sinkers, even at 93-94 mph. They don’t look right at all, I don’t understand why they can’t make a slight change to it. And honestly, not that many pitchers throw a sinker I’m sorry. They need to do their research.
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Sinkers have been broken, and the best pitch in the game, at least dating back to 17. MLB the slow pitch softball 18 the splitter was the best pitch but sinkers were #2. At least this year curves and change ups aren't completely useless so the sinker doesn't get spammed every pitch like last year. I just don't think they have the capabilities to fix them since they acknowledged them several times over the years and nothing has changed
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I’m on the “Sinkers are OP” train with one major Caveat... go hop on pitcherlist and look at the nastiest pitches from yesterday... Corbin Burnes through a high sinker that tailed down and away (and appeared to defy physics) at ~98... so it is possible... but that is something ONE guy can do... not 50% of SPs.
