This. I’m going to most likely leave the extra packs unopened. Wish there was an exchange for all no sell dupes in the game though. With Team Affinity this year there were lots of the uniform packs that some teams you’d end up with dupes as well.
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I’m still finding some success in the market flipping/buying, but I’m also only doing new cards since there is way more traffic there so it’s at times easier to move even with bots. I’ve also changed how I do my orders on certain cards this year, where I’m not jumping by just a few stubs every time I’m outbid. For the few cards that aren’t fast movers, I’ve tried to find the sweet spot where the bots won’t react. Sure, some cards I’ll end up overpaying for or underselling, and sometimes the bots are so aggressive that they’ll keep climbing until the buy now and sell now price are nearly the same.
There are also a couple of other factors contributing to marketplace problems besides just the bots. A example would be boss packs. Boss packs get overinflated if you don’t buy both during their inning. So that All-Star Mike Trout card is an easy target for bots because there aren’t that many available since most players locked him in collections. It would be nice if boss packs had a rewind just like events and ranked. I know we get the “second” pack when they do the final inning, but I think it’s time for SDS to think about this.
Player retention I think has also hit really hard this year. So as we’ve lost players for whatever reason, we’ve lost more cards being moved and available. On the flip side of that, the amount of bots probably hasn’t changed much. So we end up with a higher percentage of bots active in the marketplace compared to actual humans.
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I only heard of YFK because of the cheater video back in March. All I’ll say is if you were trying to make a point to SDS, you would have continued showcasing cheaters and stayed in that lane. Instead he and his followers played stupid games and won stupid prizes. I do hope SDS continues to target the market bots, stub sellers and cheaters. Those are all areas that need improvement. But trying to pin all the blame on SDS for knowingly breaking ToS is just new levels of copium.
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I would absolutely love to see a feature where you could create your own bats. But then I remember that created uniforms exist and there are too many that should be banned.
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If my kid threw rocks at a neighbor's window and broke them, I am still financially responsible for the consequences. I can't just pass the buck to my child. As a parent, I am 100% responsible to guard over the type of media they consume, and sometimes their actions are a reflection of myself. If true, this is a great teaching moment for all parties.
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Happening to me as well. Ticket submitted almost 2 days ago and no response. Updated this morning and instead of error occurred it now says account is restricted. Can place orders in game, but the bots are still immediately outbidding so it feels pointless. Tough to engage with the game when you hear so many others are being caught in the ban waves while the bots are still active.
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It would be amazing if we had a default setting that just removed logos in online play. Let them keep just the jersey colors but if we turn this setting on it just goes to the default home plate and bats. It’s disgusting that they haven’t fixed this and the same bad actors face no consequences.
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@BLAISEBLAISE_PSN If you were doing the program game vs the twins or Phillies, that counts as a moment so no PXP or anything. I thought I had the same issue, so hope this helps.
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I would say I pay very close attention to the market, so I will try to answer your questions/observations to the best I can. Feel free to reach out/DM (if that's an option here, or on discord) if any of my answers need more explaining.
Event cards have typically gone up on weeks where the event rewind isn't a reward. It's been one of my better ways of making stubs, buying the dip at 12-15k then selling for 25-35k. This one is higher because this event lasted 10 days instead of 4 days or a week, the last event rewind pack being 3 weeks ago, and the legend collection coming up. Egg series Montgomery and then Biz Mackey I would expect to be higher than the Vintage and Mural ones listed, since you have to have every Egg Series card for Beltran/New Legend and then the negro league baseball series the number required for each legend has increased. Plus with Events, less people are playing multiplayer modes, so for offline players/people who don't play events there are less of those cards available to them.
To your other questions, I have made nearly 250k this week flipping, so would be interested in which cards you've specifically been targeting, since I would say it's been successful for the cards I'm targeting. Yes, there are still bots active, they just aren't doing the 300+ orders anymore to make it obvious. I know you mentioned the bots now moving to doing the orders by every 30 seconds in another thread, and I agree with that and have seen it on cards as well. I called out the Postseason Victor Martinez as being a stub transfer card yesterday (I know there are more, but that one I easily noticed) so you are right again on that. I have never spent money on stubs, and have built myself a great nest egg of stubs spread between roster updates, flipping, and holding onto cards, so it’s been fair in that I’m making stubs in multiple ways. To answer your 'resentment', personally I would only say I hate headliners and chase packs being so bloated, so when I buy those cards those are the only ones I hate the market for, but chase cards have been inflated for the last few years so am trying to get used to it. Maybe I have just accepted the market for how it is, since it's kind of just been inflating each year since '24, but I've definitely noticed patterns the last few years on which cards or series are safe investments and ones to avoid because of volatility.
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I appreciate your responses and clarifying your roll here @manu__sds_mlbts But the fact remains we sent tickets and they are not being responded to in what feels like a timely manner. So we are left in the dark. I did describe the issue in length on the ticket, and have even replied with updates. The worst part of it being that we played by the rules, got restricted, and there will be no compensation. I never do the glitches to earn packs/stubs (mini-season glitch) since I only play this and one other game so don’t want to even get close to something that will ban me. But seeing accounts that abused that still have full access to the game is just frustrating. Maybe the support team is really that backed up with tickets, but it really just sucks, so thank you for what you are able to do/pass along.
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I absolutely loved seeing this by SDS. I know some of the content creators are trying to say “well innocent people got banned for just using the market to flip/invest.” Well I am a heavy market flipper/investor and back in April before the first legend collection, I did receive a false market restriction/ban. I submitted a ticket, was kind in my responses, and everything was resolved within a week. I know I wasn’t the only one at that time, but just adding my two cents. Hopefully support tickets will get sorted out for those caught in the crossfire, and SDS can continue to ban more people not playing fairly.
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Looks like the Brice Turang WBC card (earned through event rewind packs) was active earlier today for stub swapping/selling. So September 14th from 10:45AM PDT to 10:56AM PDT is where I'm seeing nearly 100 orders completed in a small window. Also seems to have been active late last night. Hope this information helps so you can keep banning these bozos purposefully and willfully breaking ToS. Is this the best place to report these types of issues Manu? Or should I be doing tickets.
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App has been feeling great for me since last night. Orders being placed as fast as the app allows and no restrictions. Whatever levers you pulled on the backend are perfect. I have not tested enough cards to know if bots are everywhere, just wanted to share my two cents.
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As others have said, lots of packs. I would imagine there will be some of the outdated choice packs, like the launch Legends and WBC choice packs. Might also include some Spotlight Any packs. This is copium, but would love to get a pick any headliners pack. Not that any of the cards are game breaking, but the market has been wild for headliners most of the year.
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Can’t totally confirm it’s bots, since I’ve really only been flipping September Topps Now packs since they are very fast movers. But I do see a lot of bids now being undercut in groups of 3. Not sure if bots have moved away from the 2 bid pattern they’ve done most of the year. And I completely understand this could be legitimate users, just seems to be the first weekend of seeing bids in this pattern all year. Just an observation at this point, unless others are also noticing this pattern of seeing 3.
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I think last night the bots came back, but I’ve only been flipping golds the last two days, so can only speak from that perspective. Monday it felt like flipping golds was finally viable for the first time (for me) all year. Then late last night all of a sudden would get undercut by 100+ orders. But even then, these last few days the app has been amazing. Keep pulling the levers as you need to, I can tell there’s a definite improvement for the cards I’ve been flipping.
Edit: Just to clarify, I’m sure much of this was real users seeing the wider margins, so that brought more competition and naturally lowered the profits somewhat. Just the red flag for me is seeing when there’s 100+ sell orders at the same price. I know with silver exchange it’s possible to sit on more than the 20 card limit though. I’ll try and make a better note and screenshot anything I see for the future if that would help, since I can’t remember the exact cards I saw this on last night. But again, improvement all around from what I’ve seen and where I’ve been active on the market.
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@SiberiaTigerCub_PSN Good to know. I just wasn’t 100% sure since I usually bulk order then check back after an hour or so. Sucks that bots are so aggressive again.
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@oliver230230230_psn Do appreciate all the investigating you do. I’m operating on very little sleep so I may have misinterpreted some of what you said.
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