Why did they absolutely butcher Yelich’s fielding?
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He’s by no means the best fielder in the world, nor does he have a great arm, but giving him the worst arm for any diamond and I think gold outfielder is insane. The way they make him out to be he is the worst fielder in baseball. This man is a former gold glover. He does not butcher 10 balls a year. And he has by no means the arm strength of a 9 year old. In fact, I’ve seen 9 year olds throw harder than what Yelich seems to throw in game. But seriously why?
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Because his card would be rated higher than Mike Trout if they gave him decent fielding and we know that's not possible.
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He is a former gold glover when he was a left fielder, he's a below-average right fielder.
There is a reason the Brewers were talking about moving him back to left before the season got suspended.
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Same reason why they butchered Nolan Arenados fielding/reaction for YEARS. They finally got it right this year.
But the reason is to manipulate the overall to SDS’ liking. It sucks, I know.
Just like when we have roster updates, they would refuse to drop guys to gold or make golds diamonds because of the way it would effect the market.
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@genopolanco said in Why did they absolutely butcher Yelich’s fielding?:
Same reason why they butchered Nolan Arenados fielding/reaction for YEARS. They finally got it right this year.
But the reason is to manipulate the overall to SDS’ liking. It sucks, I know.
Just like when we have roster updates, they would refuse to drop guys to gold or make golds diamonds because of the way it would effect the market.
This may be partly true, but I think they go off advanced metrics more than the eye test.
Arenado is a great example. Some people lost their minds when they dropped him down, but the year before (2018) he had just above average DRS and UZR... Statistically they were right. Then Arenado was great again in 2019.
Yelich is a middling defender. And he has never had a great arm.. so this is mostly accurate. -
Fielding is always going to be so divisive...
Fans have a totally different perception compared to advanced metrics of a fielder's actual ability...
A player could have one great defensive year and then botch it the next 3... But fans remember that one year and assume he's still that good. -
@Nanthrax_1 said in Why did they absolutely butcher Yelich’s fielding?:
@genopolanco said in Why did they absolutely butcher Yelich’s fielding?:
Same reason why they butchered Nolan Arenados fielding/reaction for YEARS. They finally got it right this year.
But the reason is to manipulate the overall to SDS’ liking. It sucks, I know.
Just like when we have roster updates, they would refuse to drop guys to gold or make golds diamonds because of the way it would effect the market.
This may be partly true, but I think they go off advanced metrics more than the eye test.
Arenado is a great example. Some people lost their minds when they dropped him down, but the year before (2018) he had just above average DRS and UZR... Statistically they were right. Then Arenado was great again in 2019.
Yelich is a middling defender. And he has never had a great arm.. so this is mostly accurate.Manny Machado had 90 fielding last year while Nolan had 80. It is completely bias.
Same thing with Acuna last year. They did not give him justice with his fielding/arm until late last year.
There are numerous examples. They might use advanced stats as a general guideline, but at the end of the day, they do whatever they want and whatever benefits them.
Here’s another one... SS Tulo last year. How in the **** did he have 89 fielding?
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I believe they use a very small sample size when it comes to fielding. They definitely dont take a 3 year avg into account like they do for hitting.
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@genopolanco said in Why did they absolutely butcher Yelich’s fielding?:
@Nanthrax_1 said in Why did they absolutely butcher Yelich’s fielding?:
@genopolanco said in Why did they absolutely butcher Yelich’s fielding?:
Same reason why they butchered Nolan Arenados fielding/reaction for YEARS. They finally got it right this year.
But the reason is to manipulate the overall to SDS’ liking. It sucks, I know.
Just like when we have roster updates, they would refuse to drop guys to gold or make golds diamonds because of the way it would effect the market.
This may be partly true, but I think they go off advanced metrics more than the eye test.
Arenado is a great example. Some people lost their minds when they dropped him down, but the year before (2018) he had just above average DRS and UZR... Statistically they were right. Then Arenado was great again in 2019.
Yelich is a middling defender. And he has never had a great arm.. so this is mostly accurate.Manny Machado had 90 fielding last year while Nolan had 80. It is completely bias.
Same thing with Acuna last year. They did not give him justice with his fielding/arm until late last year.
There are numerous examples. They might use advanced stats as a general guideline, but at the end of the day, they do whatever they want and whatever benefits them.
Here’s another one... SS Tulo last year. How in the **** did he have 89 fielding?
One more thing... Machado playing in his secondary at SS had higher fielding than Nolan Arenado at 3B. Are you kidding me? Lmao
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Acuna had what a 50/60 arm last year, now he’s at a 96? Yea okay
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@genopolanco said in Why did they absolutely butcher Yelich’s fielding?:
@Nanthrax_1 said in Why did they absolutely butcher Yelich’s fielding?:
@genopolanco said in Why did they absolutely butcher Yelich’s fielding?:
Same reason why they butchered Nolan Arenados fielding/reaction for YEARS. They finally got it right this year.
But the reason is to manipulate the overall to SDS’ liking. It sucks, I know.
Just like when we have roster updates, they would refuse to drop guys to gold or make golds diamonds because of the way it would effect the market.
This may be partly true, but I think they go off advanced metrics more than the eye test.
Arenado is a great example. Some people lost their minds when they dropped him down, but the year before (2018) he had just above average DRS and UZR... Statistically they were right. Then Arenado was great again in 2019.
Yelich is a middling defender. And he has never had a great arm.. so this is mostly accurate.Manny Machado had 90 fielding last year while Nolan had 80. It is completely bias.
Same thing with Acuna last year. They did not give him justice with his fielding/arm until late last year.
There are numerous examples. They might use advanced stats as a general guideline, but at the end of the day, they do whatever they want and whatever benefits them.
Here’s another one... SS Tulo last year. How in the **** did he have 89 fielding?
This is a perfect example of perception over reality... Thank you.
First of all, Tulo was an excellent defender!!
41.4 UZR, and 94 Defensive runs saved through his career. He should be 90+ if anything.And Machado and Arenado have similar 3B metrics. Machado was brutal at SS though
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@braydencombs said in Why did they absolutely butcher Yelich’s fielding?:
Acuna had what a 50/60 arm last year, now he’s at a 96? Yea okay
Ya they did Acuna wrong but then again, he has no metrics to go off of... Until he did..
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@Nanthrax_1 said in Why did they absolutely butcher Yelich’s fielding?:
@genopolanco said in Why did they absolutely butcher Yelich’s fielding?:
@Nanthrax_1 said in Why did they absolutely butcher Yelich’s fielding?:
@genopolanco said in Why did they absolutely butcher Yelich’s fielding?:
Same reason why they butchered Nolan Arenados fielding/reaction for YEARS. They finally got it right this year.
But the reason is to manipulate the overall to SDS’ liking. It sucks, I know.
Just like when we have roster updates, they would refuse to drop guys to gold or make golds diamonds because of the way it would effect the market.
This may be partly true, but I think they go off advanced metrics more than the eye test.
Arenado is a great example. Some people lost their minds when they dropped him down, but the year before (2018) he had just above average DRS and UZR... Statistically they were right. Then Arenado was great again in 2019.
Yelich is a middling defender. And he has never had a great arm.. so this is mostly accurate.Manny Machado had 90 fielding last year while Nolan had 80. It is completely bias.
Same thing with Acuna last year. They did not give him justice with his fielding/arm until late last year.
There are numerous examples. They might use advanced stats as a general guideline, but at the end of the day, they do whatever they want and whatever benefits them.
Here’s another one... SS Tulo last year. How in the **** did he have 89 fielding?
This is a perfect example of perception over reality... Thank you.
First of all, Tulo was an excellent defender!!
41.4 UZR, and 94 Defensive runs saved through his career. He should be 90+ if anything.And Machado and Arenado have similar 3B metrics. Machado was brutal at SS though
How is that an example of perception over reality? You agreed with everything I said lol.
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@genopolanco said in Why did they absolutely butcher Yelich’s fielding?:
@Nanthrax_1 said in Why did they absolutely butcher Yelich’s fielding?:
@genopolanco said in Why did they absolutely butcher Yelich’s fielding?:
@Nanthrax_1 said in Why did they absolutely butcher Yelich’s fielding?:
@genopolanco said in Why did they absolutely butcher Yelich’s fielding?:
Same reason why they butchered Nolan Arenados fielding/reaction for YEARS. They finally got it right this year.
But the reason is to manipulate the overall to SDS’ liking. It sucks, I know.
Just like when we have roster updates, they would refuse to drop guys to gold or make golds diamonds because of the way it would effect the market.
This may be partly true, but I think they go off advanced metrics more than the eye test.
Arenado is a great example. Some people lost their minds when they dropped him down, but the year before (2018) he had just above average DRS and UZR... Statistically they were right. Then Arenado was great again in 2019.
Yelich is a middling defender. And he has never had a great arm.. so this is mostly accurate.Manny Machado had 90 fielding last year while Nolan had 80. It is completely bias.
Same thing with Acuna last year. They did not give him justice with his fielding/arm until late last year.
There are numerous examples. They might use advanced stats as a general guideline, but at the end of the day, they do whatever they want and whatever benefits them.
Here’s another one... SS Tulo last year. How in the **** did he have 89 fielding?
This is a perfect example of perception over reality... Thank you.
First of all, Tulo was an excellent defender!!
41.4 UZR, and 94 Defensive runs saved through his career. He should be 90+ if anything.And Machado and Arenado have similar 3B metrics. Machado was brutal at SS though
How is that an example of perception over reality? You agreed with everything I said lol.
No I didn't. Machado and Arenado at 3B are more equal than you thought they should be.. did I read that wrong?
And I thought you were saying Tulo shouldn't be a good fielder.. I think I may have read your comment wrong here lol
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@Nanthrax_1 said in Why did they absolutely butcher Yelich’s fielding?:
@genopolanco said in Why did they absolutely butcher Yelich’s fielding?:
@Nanthrax_1 said in Why did they absolutely butcher Yelich’s fielding?:
@genopolanco said in Why did they absolutely butcher Yelich’s fielding?:
@Nanthrax_1 said in Why did they absolutely butcher Yelich’s fielding?:
@genopolanco said in Why did they absolutely butcher Yelich’s fielding?:
Same reason why they butchered Nolan Arenados fielding/reaction for YEARS. They finally got it right this year.
But the reason is to manipulate the overall to SDS’ liking. It sucks, I know.
Just like when we have roster updates, they would refuse to drop guys to gold or make golds diamonds because of the way it would effect the market.
This may be partly true, but I think they go off advanced metrics more than the eye test.
Arenado is a great example. Some people lost their minds when they dropped him down, but the year before (2018) he had just above average DRS and UZR... Statistically they were right. Then Arenado was great again in 2019.
Yelich is a middling defender. And he has never had a great arm.. so this is mostly accurate.Manny Machado had 90 fielding last year while Nolan had 80. It is completely bias.
Same thing with Acuna last year. They did not give him justice with his fielding/arm until late last year.
There are numerous examples. They might use advanced stats as a general guideline, but at the end of the day, they do whatever they want and whatever benefits them.
Here’s another one... SS Tulo last year. How in the **** did he have 89 fielding?
This is a perfect example of perception over reality... Thank you.
First of all, Tulo was an excellent defender!!
41.4 UZR, and 94 Defensive runs saved through his career. He should be 90+ if anything.And Machado and Arenado have similar 3B metrics. Machado was brutal at SS though
How is that an example of perception over reality? You agreed with everything I said lol.
No I didn't. Machado and Arenado at 3B are more equal than you thought they should be.. did I read that wrong?
And I thought you were saying Tulo shouldn't be a good fielder.. I think I may have read your comment wrong here lol
No that’s exactly what I was saying. Tulo got shafted just so they didn’t give him diamond fielding. And if Machado and Arenado are similar... why was Machado rated a 90 fielding, when Arenado was an 80? That is absurd to think Machado is 10 points higher than Arenado at fielding.
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@genopolanco said in Why did they absolutely butcher Yelich’s fielding?:
@Nanthrax_1 said in Why did they absolutely butcher Yelich’s fielding?:
@genopolanco said in Why did they absolutely butcher Yelich’s fielding?:
@Nanthrax_1 said in Why did they absolutely butcher Yelich’s fielding?:
@genopolanco said in Why did they absolutely butcher Yelich’s fielding?:
@Nanthrax_1 said in Why did they absolutely butcher Yelich’s fielding?:
@genopolanco said in Why did they absolutely butcher Yelich’s fielding?:
Same reason why they butchered Nolan Arenados fielding/reaction for YEARS. They finally got it right this year.
But the reason is to manipulate the overall to SDS’ liking. It sucks, I know.
Just like when we have roster updates, they would refuse to drop guys to gold or make golds diamonds because of the way it would effect the market.
This may be partly true, but I think they go off advanced metrics more than the eye test.
Arenado is a great example. Some people lost their minds when they dropped him down, but the year before (2018) he had just above average DRS and UZR... Statistically they were right. Then Arenado was great again in 2019.
Yelich is a middling defender. And he has never had a great arm.. so this is mostly accurate.Manny Machado had 90 fielding last year while Nolan had 80. It is completely bias.
Same thing with Acuna last year. They did not give him justice with his fielding/arm until late last year.
There are numerous examples. They might use advanced stats as a general guideline, but at the end of the day, they do whatever they want and whatever benefits them.
Here’s another one... SS Tulo last year. How in the **** did he have 89 fielding?
This is a perfect example of perception over reality... Thank you.
First of all, Tulo was an excellent defender!!
41.4 UZR, and 94 Defensive runs saved through his career. He should be 90+ if anything.And Machado and Arenado have similar 3B metrics. Machado was brutal at SS though
How is that an example of perception over reality? You agreed with everything I said lol.
No I didn't. Machado and Arenado at 3B are more equal than you thought they should be.. did I read that wrong?
And I thought you were saying Tulo shouldn't be a good fielder.. I think I may have read your comment wrong here lol
No that’s exactly what I was saying. Tulo got shafted just so they didn’t give him diamond fielding. And if Machado and Arenado are similar... why was Machado rated a 90 fielding, when Arenado was an 80? That is absurd to think Machado is 10 points higher than Arenado at fielding.
Ya 10 points may be a stretch, but I assumed because they didn't have metrics to go off of Machado at 3B they left him..
And Arenado did not have an "Arenado year in the field that one season. He was average. -
To manipulate his Live series rating that’s why. Trash company
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Yelich has been a below avg fielder his entire career, not terrible, but certainly below average. I haven't played with him yet this year so I can't speak on how bad he is defensively. I think Charlie Blackmon is far worse though
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@JETlifeNYK said in Why did they absolutely butcher Yelich’s fielding?:
Yelich has been a below avg fielder his entire career, not terrible, but certainly below average. I haven't played with him yet this year so I can't speak on how bad he is defensively. I think Charlie Blackmon is far worse though
Actually, Christian Yelich played a gold glove centerfield not too long ago back in Miami. Albeit before he became the MVP player he is today. He’s been solid throughout his career. That’s just from the games I’ve seen him play. SDS is unfortunately keeping his fielding low to avoid him being a 90 or 91 ovr.
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@Patriots_KING447 said in Why did they absolutely butcher Yelich’s fielding?:
@JETlifeNYK said in Why did they absolutely butcher Yelich’s fielding?:
Yelich has been a below avg fielder his entire career, not terrible, but certainly below average. I haven't played with him yet this year so I can't speak on how bad he is defensively. I think Charlie Blackmon is far worse though
Actually, Christian Yelich played a gold glove centerfield not too long ago back in Miami. Albeit before he became the MVP player he is today. He’s been solid throughout his career. That’s just from the games I’ve seen him play. SDS is unfortunately keeping his fielding low to avoid him being a 90 or 91 ovr.
Yep that’s exactly it. The players who hover around different tiers of cards get their ratings manipulated.
How did Mookie suddenly lose a ton of arm strength? Well because SDS wants him to be an 89 instead of a 90+.
