New Showdowns
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@ilvmyjeep said in New Showdowns:
@Dolenz said in New Showdowns:
@GradektheBard said in New Showdowns:
@louieepthree said in New Showdowns:
Either they nerfed showdowns cuz people complained they couldn't beat them.. orr they nerfed them cuz we complained about Future Stars as TA2 and wanted us to actually get them done... hmmmmm
Or, they nerfed them because the data showed the success rate was awful.
Ah, a voice of reason!
I am sure they have tons of data on the first batch of showdowns (at least I hope).
- How many people started
- How Many people completed
- How far the average user advanced
- How many attempts people made
- How many people started it, failed and never went back to try again
They are not basing decisions on complaints alone. Especially around here because people complain about everything.
What gets lost on the forum sometimes too is that the forum does not necessarily accurately represent the masses. The forum usually seems split 50/50 when it comes to this kind of thing but it’s impossible for us to know what percentage the forum actually represents. No doubt SDS’s data looks much different from the conclusions you’d draw from analyzing the forum only.
As an example, according to the PSN trophies, only 50.10% of users have received the Show Them Who’s Boss trophy for completing a final showdown (which includes even the starter showdown). I think that’s a lot lower then if you’d ran a poll on the forum speculating how many people had successfully completed showdowns.
I think that probably means there’s been a $&!+ tonne of failures and they’ve adjusted the showdowns based on that more than the opinions posted on the forum.
Im guessing the failure rate was in fact pretty high, but PSN trophy completion percentages aren’t a very good indicator either because It also includes strictly Franchise and RTTS players in those numbers. Im guessing at least 80% of DD players beat the starter showdown. The other ones are much harder than the starter showdown but I would Imagine most DD players beat the starter showdown at the very least
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@aaronjw76 said in New Showdowns:
@DriveByTrucker17 said in New Showdowns:
@HollaMV7 said in New Showdowns:
The bosses are not always the same. In the NL I had Plesac, Smoltz, and Zack Brown as the final.
What other bosses have people had?
I had FS Adonis Medina as the final boss on my first run.
I think it would be a good idea to catalog what pitcher each team has as a final boss, so people can draft accordingly.
As long as it's a righty since I'm sitting on all righty except for diamond Posey right now with 1 mini boss and 3 missions left.
Reds is always FS Lodolo, a lefty.
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@HollaMV7 said in New Showdowns:
The bosses are not always the same. In the NL I had Plesac, Smoltz, and Zack Brown as the final.
What other bosses have people had?
I've only done 1 AL run through and had that Astros FS pitcher as the final boss. The guy throws nothing but change ups and sliders so it's easy to just sit on the hangers.
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@HollaMV7 said in New Showdowns:
The bosses are not always the same. In the NL I had Plesac, Smoltz, and Zack Brown as the final.
What other bosses have people had?
I forgot the first two NL bosses I faced but the final boss was Brusdar Graterol. He beat me with his 99 mph fastball, 95 mph plus sinker and his 100 h/9 rating. I could not make good contact against him.
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@janoosh said in New Showdowns:
Who is the Rockies pitcher for the final boss?
I’m gonna guess probably FS Rolison.
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The only downside to it is I don’t want to play the first ones anymore and I still need to do 25 teams haha.
Also if you play a really tough boss it can be difficult because they don’t walk you like all star
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@Untchable704 said in New Showdowns:
The only downside to it is I don’t want to play the first ones anymore and I still need to do 25 teams haha.
Also if you play a really tough boss it can be difficult because they don’t walk you like all star
I don't understand this? AS is more difficult than Veteran so shouldn't the everything from the CPU be easier (eg: worse pitches)?
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@aaronjw76 said in New Showdowns:
@Untchable704 said in New Showdowns:
The only downside to it is I don’t want to play the first ones anymore and I still need to do 25 teams haha.
Also if you play a really tough boss it can be difficult because they don’t walk you like all star
I don't understand this? AS is more difficult than Veteran so shouldn't the everything from the CPU be easier (eg: worse pitches)?
They throw more pitches in the zone, on all star they try to trick you more with pitches just off the plate. If your strategy is to take pitches until they are out of stamina veteran could be more difficult.
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@maskedgrappler said in New Showdowns:
@aaronjw76 said in New Showdowns:
@Untchable704 said in New Showdowns:
The only downside to it is I don’t want to play the first ones anymore and I still need to do 25 teams haha.
Also if you play a really tough boss it can be difficult because they don’t walk you like all star
I don't understand this? AS is more difficult than Veteran so shouldn't the everything from the CPU be easier (eg: worse pitches)?
They throw more pitches in the zone, on all star they try to trick you more with pitches just off the plate. If your strategy is to take pitches until they are out of stamina veteran could be more difficult.
Ahh I did not realize this. I've been trying to employ this strategy more lol
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@DriveByTrucker17 said in New Showdowns:
@janoosh said in New Showdowns:
Who is the Rockies pitcher for the final boss?
I’m gonna guess probably FS Rolison.
Yep it is. Faced him today and won down 10-15. Pretty easy I thought, he doesn't throw over 95.
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@maskedgrappler said in New Showdowns:
@aaronjw76 said in New Showdowns:
@Untchable704 said in New Showdowns:
The only downside to it is I don’t want to play the first ones anymore and I still need to do 25 teams haha.
Also if you play a really tough boss it can be difficult because they don’t walk you like all star
I don't understand this? AS is more difficult than Veteran so shouldn't the everything from the CPU be easier (eg: worse pitches)?
They throw more pitches in the zone, on all star they try to trick you more with pitches just off the plate. If your strategy is to take pitches until they are out of stamina veteran could be more difficult.
Seems like on Veteran the CPU pitchers throw more fastballs over the plate. Just wait till you get a good pitch to hit over the middle and get any variation of Inner Peace perks.
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@HollaMV7 said in New Showdowns:
@maskedgrappler said in New Showdowns:
@aaronjw76 said in New Showdowns:
@Untchable704 said in New Showdowns:
The only downside to it is I don’t want to play the first ones anymore and I still need to do 25 teams haha.
Also if you play a really tough boss it can be difficult because they don’t walk you like all star
I don't understand this? AS is more difficult than Veteran so shouldn't the everything from the CPU be easier (eg: worse pitches)?
They throw more pitches in the zone, on all star they try to trick you more with pitches just off the plate. If your strategy is to take pitches until they are out of stamina veteran could be more difficult.
Seems like on Veteran the CPU pitchers throw more fastballs over the plate. Just wait till you get a good pitch to hit over the middle and get any variation of Inner Peace perks.
Yea and this is by no means a complaint just an observations. This one way easier to beat. But There’s some guys that it’s just hard to get good wood on. Mainly the 102 mph guys, Kopech, Pearson. Only one I have failed so far I faced 99 Kluber as second boss and could not square him up. Would have been easier on all star imo.
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Wait do you have to hit 70 on ta to use stage 2 showdown vouchers?
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@James97M said in New Showdowns:
Wait do you have to hit 70 on ta to use stage 2 showdown vouchers?
Yes. Stage 2 is locked until you finish stage 1.
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@wakefan3 said in New Showdowns:
@kkonicke said in New Showdowns:
One thing i noted right away, most of the hitting ones you start with a guy on base. I will agree they are generally easier and faster. I'm working through NL right now. One of the 2nd tier ones for example was to score 3 runs in 3 innings...but they start you with bases loaded in the 1st. I hit a single and then a HR and was done...easy peasy. But even without the HR I could have manufactured at least 2. The toughest was the 1st one so far, scoring I think 2 runs off Sixto Sanchez. There was a moment against the Brewers where you needed 3 hits AND 3 strikeouts, so one side of the ball wasn't a complete waste of time.
Also worth noting, you get 2 diamonds right off the bat instead of 1...which is generally nice. I went Yelich and Rollins
This as well is a huge help! And even the second boss is on Veteran...
I think it's all on Veteran
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Yes, it's all on veteran.
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@maskedgrappler said in New Showdowns:
Yes, it's all on veteran.
Did the difficulty change for the 1st showdowns?
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@louieepthree said in New Showdowns:
@maskedgrappler said in New Showdowns:
Started the final boss down 15-2, got it to 15-11 with 10 outs left, had the KC pitcher up to 140 pitches when all of the sudden he starts dotting everything. Lost 15-14 with 2 men on.
God this is God [censored] frustrating.
Think I'll just grind out innings from now on.
Or hear me out.... do more of the missions?
Yes, I agree. I’m about to do the final boss down 15-10. I think you need to beat a few more of those blue missions, grappler.
