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I am sorry, this thread is now a little confusing!
Google's reCAPTCHA v3 for mobile apps is an invisible, background security tool that scores user behavior to block bots without showing puzzles or pop-ups.
- Runs in the Background: It watches how users interact with your app passively, without interrupting them.
- Provides a Score: It gives your app a score from 0.0 (likely a bot) to 1.0 (likely a human) based on device and behavioral signals.
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@Manu__SDS_MLBTS Thanks Manu! I totally understand why this is necessary with the bots, third-party stub sites, etc., and I'm sorry you guys even have to deal with it.
My only concern is whether the way I legitimately flip could trigger it. I tend to do everything in bulk because I don't have time to actively flip throughout the day. I haven't been doing much lately since my stub count is high and life is crazy with a newborn and my work schedule, but eventually I'll get back to it.
Would you mind if I messaged you privately and explained what I normally do, just to make sure I'm not unintentionally tanking my score? (I can also do it here, just wasn't sure if it should be public in case the bot creators are watching).
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@Manu__SDS Thanks Manu
Hopefully viewing collections, programs, lineups, etc will give a positive score since I don’t think many bots are viewing those screens -
@Manu__SDS_MLBTS thanks for the explanation. Sounds exactly like what’s needed here. I thought I saw mention somewhere yesterday that it was being turned off for tuning, but I can’t find that thread atm. I also haven’t run into a timeout warning myself. If it has been turned off, I’d like to encourage you to turn it back on asap. Especially before the upcoming content drop in 2 hours. The few hours before and after content drops sees major market activity. Yesterday was the best market experience in many weeks.
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Thanks @manu__sds_mlbts for clarifying. My concern is the same as @bridge-piece_xbl. I buy bulk 75 silvers to turn around exchange for gold packs. At times I'll flip some bronzes but not often. I want to continue doing the exchange but not at the risk of a 22hr naughty corner visit.
It would be amazing if you could PM me to give some general do not dos without getting into the specifics, that can help me keep from not tagging you, I'm sure I can be very annoying. I've tried a couple things I've read on line but got 1 or 2 error messages which I thought you turned off. Anyways keep fighting the good fight. Hopeful the marketplace will like you said heal but it's very doubtful you'll slow the 3rd party slime ball stub sites down and the marketplace completely heal until you all corral CC and make them stop promoting them. IP bans...hint hint. It feels like a whack a mole and like I said before it's the honest players who are getting wacked. The promoters just hop onto their secondary accounts as nothing ever happened and the 3rd party sites all they do is adjust and continue reek havoc on you guys. I'm getting sick of getting wacked and more so the very few innocents that got banned and won't have the chance to plead their case and have an unbiased review.
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Howdy,
as soon as we get to a point where the implementation is stable and reasonable we can surely come up with 'best practices' to use the marketplace safely and happily!
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Thank you, I know you are working hard on this and appreciate your communication.
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@DrBear100_PSN A console + IP ban for YFK and OhChev, who have been actively promoting them, would be a pretty solid start toward "maybe let's shut down this sleazy operation."
I totally get why Manu has to do what he's doing, even if it means some legitimate players get caught in the crosshairs. It's not ideal, but if this is mainly about getting through the rest of this year and there's potentially a bigger platform change coming next year that makes it much harder for bots to operate, I can live with some growing pains. I'm trying to stay positive because SDS is in an awful spot when so many people are constantly looking for ways to break the rules.
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I totally get why Manu has to do what he's doing, even if it means some legitimate players get caught in the crosshairs. It's not ideal, but if this is mainly about getting through the rest of this year and there's potentially a bigger platform change coming next year that makes it much harder for bots to operate, I can live with some growing pains. I'm trying to stay positive because SDS is in an awful spot when so many people are constantly looking for ways to break the rules.
I agree with you to some degree but isn't SDS kinda laying in the bed that they made for themselves?
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I totally get why Manu has to do what he's doing, even if it means some legitimate players get caught in the crosshairs. It's not ideal, but if this is mainly about getting through the rest of this year and there's potentially a bigger platform change coming next year that makes it much harder for bots to operate, I can live with some growing pains. I'm trying to stay positive because SDS is in an awful spot when so many people are constantly looking for ways to break the rules.
I agree with you to some degree but isn't SDS kinda laying in the bed that they made for themselves?
I don't think SDS is to blame for people botting the system, cheating, promoting 3rd party stub sites... or the fact that many of the content creators in the community are the most toxic content creators of, probably any gaming community.
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I totally get why Manu has to do what he's doing, even if it means some legitimate players get caught in the crosshairs. It's not ideal, but if this is mainly about getting through the rest of this year and there's potentially a bigger platform change coming next year that makes it much harder for bots to operate, I can live with some growing pains. I'm trying to stay positive because SDS is in an awful spot when so many people are constantly looking for ways to break the rules.
I agree with you to some degree but isn't SDS kinda laying in the bed that they made for themselves?
I don't think SDS is to blame for people botting the system, cheating, promoting 3rd party stub sites... or the fact that many of the content creators in the community are the most toxic content creators of, probably any gaming community.
I can see your point but you can't also say this just exploded overnight either. There had to be warming signs and people warning SDS of issues if they didn't step in and do something about it.
I am not at all fully blaming SDS but they do bear some responsibility in all this.
How much responsibility, I have no idea because I don't know much they knew, when they first knew about it, noone will know when the alarm bells first went off at SDS. Except for SDS and if they aren't transparent about the game itself they are not going to be transparent about this because culpability is wrapped into this.
