Stop bidding down so low to sell a card on the buy side.. Bots screw you either way
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Why are some of you making extremely low sell offer bids, when you know the bots are going to come in right behind you? This is making some cards crash in value.
I see bids 3000 stubs below the next highest sell price on a 25k card. Thinking you can sell faster...Then the bots swoop in and you cannot sell the card anyway. All you did was shoot yourselves in the foot and lower the value of your own card. Stupidity is wild.
I have noticed this behavior, sometimes I see 5-10k below the preceding bid. There's no stubs to be made for anyone. I go 1 to 5 stubs below and wait. After 30 mins it hasn't sold I readjust or take it off completely and wait for the market on that card to rebound.
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@DrBear100_PSN I do the same thing. When I see bots taking over ill wait. Almost impossible to sell a card with heavy bot volume on them. Zero logic with some of these people doing that. Smh. Spencer strider rookie card is a prime example. Bids 1500 below 3000 below. Etc. Calm down. Bid 20 below. You dont need to go that much lower.
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Eliminate the app, bot problem solved. If SDs is to dumb to address the problem then get rid of it.
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Look at john Donaldson for example. Someone entered 24,500 on the sell buy side when the card was 25,000. Immediately bots bid 24,499 and 24,498. I watched it happen in real time. What are you doing? You dont need to go 500 stubs below the next highest price.
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SDS is trying to force the degenerates into buying more stubs. I wonder how many people have used AI agents to buy/resell cards throughout the day?
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First off, it’s F’d that pretty much every move you make in the marketplace triggers a bot to outbid you and that absolutely nothing is being done about it. Since you can’t do much without bots right now, those strange bids can be a number of things, but mainly people trying to see what kind of settings the bot has. Will it chase the buy price? Sell price? Since you are not able to place a bid and leave it, as intended, you have to get creative. If I’m trying to sell stuff but a bot keeps undercutting me - Maybe that bot or even some other bot is trying to buy everything. So I’ll check if it will outbid me if I make a stupid a price increase. And if it does, will it do it again if I make another stupid increase? What if I can erase the margin and have the bot outbid me all the way upto the current high bid - then I’ll sell now to the bot. Then I’ll do it again.
My point is tho, people are going to do what they can to try and get around the bots but they are ruining everything. So you can’t really blame other players. You can blame the people using the bots and sds for not doing anything about it. They were successfully blocking most bot traffic for a couple days but then they stopped all efforts. Probably some manager executive pos saw enough complaints on social media about the bots he directed someone to get rid of them and then probably got a call from some bigger pos exec manager type above him looking at their real margins about how some of those bots are theirs to control and regulate things and they can’t be blocked so they just went back to ignoring the players asking for help with the bots. -
Look at john Donaldson for example. Someone entered 24,500 on the sell buy side when the card was 25,000. Immediately bots bid 24,499 and 24,498. I watched it happen in real time. What are you doing? You dont need to go 500 stubs below the next highest price.
Since you can’t leave a bid without a bot outbidding you, sometimes the best you can do is drive the price up or down to buy or sell yourself. In the Donaldson example you gave, since a bot would outbid anything I put, instead of selling for 24,500, if I can make a bot bid 24,501 on the buy side I could sell now to that bot… it’s totally stupid. I’m so confused over why nothing gets done about these bots. There is real currency attached to their marketplace and stubs currency. They sell people stubs and the environment to use the stubs is unprotected, manipulated and overrun with bad actors…
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@SpawnOfDitka_XBL I’m going to continue to do this because I have the stubs and I don’t want to wait when I’m buying a card.
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@GoozeFn_PSN im not talking about buying. Im talking about selling. I dont care if people out bid to buy a card. Bid as much as you want when buying.
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Look at john Donaldson for example. Someone entered 24,500 on the sell buy side when the card was 25,000. Immediately bots bid 24,499 and 24,498. I watched it happen in real time. What are you doing? You dont need to go 500 stubs below the next highest price.
Since you can’t leave a bid without a bot outbidding you, sometimes the best you can do is drive the price up or down to buy or sell yourself. In the Donaldson example you gave, since a bot would outbid anything I put, instead of selling for 24,500, if I can make a bot bid 24,501 on the buy side I could sell now to that bot… it’s totally stupid. I’m so confused over why nothing gets done about these bots. There is real currency attached to their marketplace and stubs currency. They sell people stubs and the environment to use the stubs is unprotected, manipulated and overrun with bad actors…
Nothing gets done because SDS does nothing. Literally, nothing. About anything. They are worthless.
Correction: They are doing an outstanding job of taking what was once THE BEST sports game made and running it completely in the ground. I swear the same people running the Mets must be running SDS.
In the case of bots it keeps the marketplace in the area SDS wants it to stay. If it's not something that directly and immediately affects the bottom line SDS does not care.
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@Oliver230230230_PSN utterly ridiculous im having a very difficult time selling anything because of the bots. So people are getting flustered and frusterated so they start selling extremely low compared to what's on the board. And the bots just come right back in and its a never ending [censored] shoot.
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@SpawnOfDitka_XBL I do the same thing selling for the same reasons. I don’t want to have to come back and reset it.
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@GoozeFn_PSNi think you missed my point. When bots have taken over a certain card. You are lowering the price of the card for nothing. Your card more than likely will not sell and you are lowering the price more than you need to for nothing.
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@SpawnOfDitka_XBL I’m not missing the point, I just care more about selling/buying faster than the extra stubs.
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@GoozeFn_PSN so then you are one of the people making prices fluctuate more for everyone else. Got it. This post was specifically for you then.
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@SpawnOfDitka_XBL And I’m going to keep doing it.
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@GoozeFn_PSN good for you. Glad you have millions of stubs that you do not need to be patient at all, and can just blow thousands of stubs like that. Hope you dont play the real stock market that way.
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Look at john Donaldson for example. Someone entered 24,500 on the sell buy side when the card was 25,000. Immediately bots bid 24,499 and 24,498. I watched it happen in real time. What are you doing? You dont need to go 500 stubs below the next highest price.
I normally agree but I'll give an example of why I don't care sometimes. All-star Yamamoto was like 45k-50k when the pack came out so I bought him and cease knowing the price would skyrocket like last year and yesterday I saw him over 150k and said ok that's enough profit. People on the app kept undercutting by 1 and it didn't sell for like 8 hours at various prices. Finally the margin shrank enough that I went 6k under so that tax would bring it to the sell now price making the flip stupid. My card sold for a few thousand less than "ideal" but it was still 85k profit in a week and a half of playing with the card.
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@GoozeFn_PSN let me get this straight. You pulled ohtani a few times so stubs arnt an issue for you. So you dont mind screwing over everyone else on the market. Thank you for showing your true character to everyone. Happy i can call you out and let everyone know.
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@GoozeFn_PSN What a blazing tool
