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    @PriorFir4383355_XBL Holy yap.

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    I assume they have to pay for them and that wouldn’t be feasible if it took away from paying for retired players out of the same pot of money. The Hartford Yard Goats play at Dunkin Park. I don’t think Dunkin Donuts would let them use their name without some cash coming their way.

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    @dodgers19k88_MLBTS said:

    I assume they have to pay for them and that wouldn’t be feasible if it took away from paying for retired players out of the same pot of money. The Hartford Yard Goats play at Dunkin Park. I don’t think Dunkin Donuts would let them use their name without some cash coming their way.

    Gotta make sure the donut company Dunkin Donuts gets some cash.

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    Most of these minor league teams are independently owned, so that would be double licensing fees- to the team and to the corp who has the naming rights.
    SDS also clearly doesn't have the staffing levels that they could dedicate ppl to making stadiums.

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    There is no licensing fee to make a stadium. There would be a license fee to use the trademarked ads and the stadium name itself. But, an exact copy of the stadium could be put into the game with zero licensing fees required. Yep, it won't feature the exact name as the real stadium, but is that really what makes the difference?

    This debate has raged for years and I keep knocking it down with the hard facts each and every single time. For the umpteenth time, engineering designs for a stadium are NOT and never have been copyrighted, trademarked, or patented against use in a digital replication.

    What ARE patented are the actual innovative construction methods should someone wish to use those patented engineering elements in the construction of another real world stadium. And in those cases, there would be royalties to be paid to the holder of the patent. And of course, if one wanted to use the trademarked logos or names, then fees would be paid for those.

    The bedrock legal foundation for all patents, trademarks, wordmarks, and copyrights is that such designs once awarded these designations may not be copied and used in a directly competition enterprise.

    This is precisely why there never will be any pursuit against SDS nor any individual designer for any renumerations for the creation of digital stadiums that are in the vault today. Not only because these stadiums in the vault are free, but because of the larger legal reality of how virtual designs are treated like photographs and paintings.

    You, me, and anyone are free and clear to take photographs of any and all buildings, without any concerns of having to pay a fee for it, so long as those photos are taken from a publicly accessible vantage point. This includes buying a ticket and watching a game. What you cannot do is alter those images in a manner deemed derogatory to any actual corporation.

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    Interesting facts, I did not know this.
    They could do it if they didn't include and logos or other trademarked items, but that leads back to my second point, they don't have the staffing for it

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    @PriorFir4383355_XBL PriorFir's mind: Blame SDS. I don't care if I make up things, I am correct and you are wrong.

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    @PriorFir4383355_XBL

    @PriorFir4383355_XBL said:

    There is no licensing fee to make a stadium. There would be a license fee to use the trademarked ads and the stadium name itself. But, an exact copy of the stadium could be put into the game with zero licensing fees required. Yep, it won't feature the exact name as the real stadium, but is that really what makes the difference?

    https://nationalintellectualpropertyauthority.com/architectural-works-copyright-protection/

    Edit: it looks like 22 stadia can be reproduced without infringing upon IP but the other 100 or so would require a contract to avoid copyright infringement

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    I agree. SDS does not have the staffing, money, or time for building the full gamut of MiLB stadiums. This again, is why three years ago I really pressed on communication a list of a half dozen items they could adopt in Stadium Creator, and we stadium designers would do it for them for free.

    Nope, nada, wasn't interested.

    There are few things more outrageous than when good people volunteer their free support to a corporation only to be bluntly told we don't want your help!

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    @PriorFir4383355_XBL unfortunately it's more complex than that; they would open themselves up to possible litigation if they turned to the community for unpaid product development. It's the same reason that TV writers (for example) don't ask fans for ideas.

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