Playing Forza for 2 days showed me why The Show is struggling
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The problem is stubs, Period…SDS simply doesn’t award enough stubs across the entire mode to be able to upgrade your team in a reasonable amount of time. In Forza you earn a good amount of credits for just playing the game. And it doesn’t take forever to save up & make significant upgrades. That makes it fun & the grind feel rewarding. This is how SDS could fix it…Say you load into a game of Conquest - You should get 1000 stubs for a homer, 750 for a triple, 500 for a double…Win the game? 5000 stubs, Lose the game? 2500 stubs…Then just double the values for online play…This would make grinding for players MUCH healthier. There’s simply just not enough ways to earn enough stubs to make a difference currently. This would provide that & players would actually FEEL that they’re working towards a reasonable goal.
Lol this is a completely ignorant post about 2 completely different games. First off stubs for HR? Seriously, how would that even be a good idea? You'd just have people doing nothing but going in against the CPU on rookie and hitting tanks at Costco. This would effectively make EVERY single card more expensive. You'd be paying 50-100k for bronze cards. Next I just completely completed live series collection NMS. Only got lucky 1 pull with judge and collected him. You get sooooooo many packs from grinding it's not even funny. Did the new mural mini season on a 28 game 3 innings on All-star run and by the end had 200 different packs to open. So even if you pull nothing but silvers in those packs thats 5k stubs in just silver equipment and jerseys to sell. Then you end up with 12 ballin packs and get 1 low 400 stub gold oh another 5k just on those. And odds are you will get lucky and get something. So please stop with the complete disinformation, simply because you lack the information or ability to do the work.
Thanks Ramone.
Ramone hasn't called the shots in the last 3 games. But when he did, this game was great.
The new smart alek monikar is now "Thanks Ashley".
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Forza Horizon 2 on XBO was the GOAT of the series.
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The problem is stubs, Period…SDS simply doesn’t award enough stubs across the entire mode to be able to upgrade your team in a reasonable amount of time. In Forza you earn a good amount of credits for just playing the game. And it doesn’t take forever to save up & make significant upgrades. That makes it fun & the grind feel rewarding. This is how SDS could fix it…Say you load into a game of Conquest - You should get 1000 stubs for a homer, 750 for a triple, 500 for a double…Win the game? 5000 stubs, Lose the game? 2500 stubs…Then just double the values for online play…This would make grinding for players MUCH healthier. There’s simply just not enough ways to earn enough stubs to make a difference currently. This would provide that & players would actually FEEL that they’re working towards a reasonable goal.
Lol this is a completely ignorant post about 2 completely different games. First off stubs for HR? Seriously, how would that even be a good idea? You'd just have people doing nothing but going in against the CPU on rookie and hitting tanks at Costco. This would effectively make EVERY single card more expensive. You'd be paying 50-100k for bronze cards. Next I just completely completed live series collection NMS. Only got lucky 1 pull with judge and collected him. You get sooooooo many packs from grinding it's not even funny. Did the new mural mini season on a 28 game 3 innings on All-star run and by the end had 200 different packs to open. So even if you pull nothing but silvers in those packs thats 5k stubs in just silver equipment and jerseys to sell. Then you end up with 12 ballin packs and get 1 low 400 stub gold oh another 5k just on those. And odds are you will get lucky and get something. So please stop with the complete disinformation, simply because you lack the information or ability to do the work.
Thanks Ramone.
Ramone hasn't called the shots in the last 3 games. But when he did, this game was great.
The new smart alek monikar is now "Thanks Ashley".
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The problem is stubs, Period…SDS simply doesn’t award enough stubs across the entire mode to be able to upgrade your team in a reasonable amount of time. In Forza you earn a good amount of credits for just playing the game. And it doesn’t take forever to save up & make significant upgrades. That makes it fun & the grind feel rewarding. This is how SDS could fix it…Say you load into a game of Conquest - You should get 1000 stubs for a homer, 750 for a triple, 500 for a double…Win the game? 5000 stubs, Lose the game? 2500 stubs…Then just double the values for online play…This would make grinding for players MUCH healthier. There’s simply just not enough ways to earn enough stubs to make a difference currently. This would provide that & players would actually FEEL that they’re working towards a reasonable goal.
Lol this is a completely ignorant post about 2 completely different games. First off stubs for HR? Seriously, how would that even be a good idea? You'd just have people doing nothing but going in against the CPU on rookie and hitting tanks at Costco. This would effectively make EVERY single card more expensive. You'd be paying 50-100k for bronze cards. Next I just completely completed live series collection NMS. Only got lucky 1 pull with judge and collected him. You get sooooooo many packs from grinding it's not even funny. Did the new mural mini season on a 28 game 3 innings on All-star run and by the end had 200 different packs to open. So even if you pull nothing but silvers in those packs thats 5k stubs in just silver equipment and jerseys to sell. Then you end up with 12 ballin packs and get 1 low 400 stub gold oh another 5k just on those. And odds are you will get lucky and get something. So please stop with the complete disinformation, simply because you lack the information or ability to do the work.
Thanks Ramone.
Ramone hasn't called the shots in the last 3 games. But when he did, this game was great.
The new smart alek monikar is now "Thanks Ashley".
Truth about Ramone. He was around during the glory years.
I got Forza 5 late. I'm definitely getting 6 being a "racing-head." -
@TheGoaler_PSN I’m not even a racing head I’m just getting it for a change of scenery from sports games last forza game I played I was way to young to even understand it.
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@The412Smoke_XBL they should not give us stubs for playing a game. They give us a little but this makes us grind for the stubs. I don't want to finish the live series in a week like you are wanting. That does not make it seem rewarding.
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@Rhyno1986_XBL when that ‘something’ you get for getting lucky is worth 3000 stubs or whatever it doesn’t really register, but sure
The fact people on here complain about "the lack" of stubs prove they don't really play. You can go get this game today start a new account and spend 2 hours just doing programs and have a competitive team up to All-star or even HoF if you are decent. Complaining and comparing it ro a racing game while neglecting to mention that it's not like you start with the best cars in Forza and have to ALSO balance your upgrades and simply say you don't get enough to stay competitive is 100% disingenuous.
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@Rhyno1986_XBL when that ‘something’ you get for getting lucky is worth 3000 stubs or whatever it doesn’t really register, but sure
The fact people on here complain about "the lack" of stubs prove they don't really play. You can go get this game today start a new account and spend 2 hours just doing programs and have a competitive team up to All-star or even HoF if you are decent. Complaining and comparing it ro a racing game while neglecting to mention that it's not like you start with the best cars in Forza and have to ALSO balance your upgrades and simply say you don't get enough to stay competitive is 100% disingenuous.
Don’t really play? Before Forza dropped, I had earned every pack from every program & mode in DD. I was still like a million stubs from completing live series. Only left to do would be to go full hamster on a wheel and keep playing the same mini seasons over and over and over and over again….That’s a terrible lack of content if you’re being required to either play 500 rounds of mini seasons or to be a fake stock trader 24/7 flipping for pennies. Flooding the game with earnable stubs is the only answer.
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@Rhyno1986_XBL when that ‘something’ you get for getting lucky is worth 3000 stubs or whatever it doesn’t really register, but sure
The fact people on here complain about "the lack" of stubs prove they don't really play. You can go get this game today start a new account and spend 2 hours just doing programs and have a competitive team up to All-star or even HoF if you are decent. Complaining and comparing it ro a racing game while neglecting to mention that it's not like you start with the best cars in Forza and have to ALSO balance your upgrades and simply say you don't get enough to stay competitive is 100% disingenuous.
Lol nobody winning any of their Esports tourneys this year is a NMS player. And everything else you said is also disingenuous. If you start the game today, you literally have a built in advance of all the previous XP to use for the current program other people have used already. It’s like a phone service where new customer get great deals to get roped in, and people who have been there for 10 years get nothing.
Once you do that, you are stuck in the trap of paying to keep up, or spending 8 hours a day flipping. Tired of reading nonsense like this from terrible players lmao
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@Rhyno1986_XBL when that ‘something’ you get for getting lucky is worth 3000 stubs or whatever it doesn’t really register, but sure
The fact people on here complain about "the lack" of stubs prove they don't really play. You can go get this game today start a new account and spend 2 hours just doing programs and have a competitive team up to All-star or even HoF if you are decent. Complaining and comparing it ro a racing game while neglecting to mention that it's not like you start with the best cars in Forza and have to ALSO balance your upgrades and simply say you don't get enough to stay competitive is 100% disingenuous.
Don’t really play? Before Forza dropped, I had earned every pack from every program & mode in DD. I was still like a million stubs from completing live series. Only left to do would be to go full hamster on a wheel and keep playing the same mini seasons over and over and over and over again….That’s a terrible lack of content if you’re being required to either play 500 rounds of mini seasons or to be a fake stock trader 24/7 flipping for pennies. Flooding the game with earnable stubs is the only answer.
Then you are full of it. I did live series NMS and only about 89 pull I got was judge, never once flipped cards, and never went 10-0. You people complaining about lack of stubs and needing more stubs are disingenuous. You all just want MORE given to you and changing focus, instead of actually talking about REAL problems in this game. Like the fact it is completely RNG dependent and not consistent at all. The fact that SDS doesn't police or research cheating reports or put anti script software into there game. NO instead you cry about a fake problem that literally anyone who sat down and played for 2 hours would know is a false statement. I just played for 2 hours only ranked and went from 800 stubs to 20k. If I spent that same time on DQ or Mini seasons I'd be at 100+k.
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@Rhyno1986_XBL when that ‘something’ you get for getting lucky is worth 3000 stubs or whatever it doesn’t really register, but sure
The fact people on here complain about "the lack" of stubs prove they don't really play. You can go get this game today start a new account and spend 2 hours just doing programs and have a competitive team up to All-star or even HoF if you are decent. Complaining and comparing it ro a racing game while neglecting to mention that it's not like you start with the best cars in Forza and have to ALSO balance your upgrades and simply say you don't get enough to stay competitive is 100% disingenuous.
Lol nobody winning any of their Esports tourneys this year is a NMS player. And everything else you said is also disingenuous. If you start the game today, you literally have a built in advance of all the previous XP to use for the current program other people have used already. It’s like a phone service where new customer get great deals to get roped in, and people who have been there for 10 years get nothing.
Once you do that, you are stuck in the trap of paying to keep up, or spending 8 hours a day flipping. Tired of reading nonsense like this from terrible players lmao
I enjoy people with common sense. Not enough of those in the world unfortunately.
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@Rhyno1986_XBL when that ‘something’ you get for getting lucky is worth 3000 stubs or whatever it doesn’t really register, but sure
The fact people on here complain about "the lack" of stubs prove they don't really play. You can go get this game today start a new account and spend 2 hours just doing programs and have a competitive team up to All-star or even HoF if you are decent. Complaining and comparing it ro a racing game while neglecting to mention that it's not like you start with the best cars in Forza and have to ALSO balance your upgrades and simply say you don't get enough to stay competitive is 100% disingenuous.
Don’t really play? Before Forza dropped, I had earned every pack from every program & mode in DD. I was still like a million stubs from completing live series. Only left to do would be to go full hamster on a wheel and keep playing the same mini seasons over and over and over and over again….That’s a terrible lack of content if you’re being required to either play 500 rounds of mini seasons or to be a fake stock trader 24/7 flipping for pennies. Flooding the game with earnable stubs is the only answer.
Then you are full of it. I did live series NMS and only about 89 pull I got was judge, never once flipped cards, and never went 10-0. You people complaining about lack of stubs and needing more stubs are disingenuous. You all just want MORE given to you and changing focus, instead of actually talking about REAL problems in this game. Like the fact it is completely RNG dependent and not consistent at all. The fact that SDS doesn't police or research cheating reports or put anti script software into there game. NO instead you cry about a fake problem that literally anyone who sat down and played for 2 hours would know is a false statement. I just played for 2 hours only ranked and went from 800 stubs to 20k. If I spent that same time on DQ or Mini seasons I'd be at 100+k.
You are not getting 100k for 2 hours of grinding unless you pull a high level card. If you do, good for you but that's not how it works for 99.9999% of the people that play this game.
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@Rhyno1986_XBL when that ‘something’ you get for getting lucky is worth 3000 stubs or whatever it doesn’t really register, but sure
The fact people on here complain about "the lack" of stubs prove they don't really play. You can go get this game today start a new account and spend 2 hours just doing programs and have a competitive team up to All-star or even HoF if you are decent. Complaining and comparing it ro a racing game while neglecting to mention that it's not like you start with the best cars in Forza and have to ALSO balance your upgrades and simply say you don't get enough to stay competitive is 100% disingenuous.
Don’t really play? Before Forza dropped, I had earned every pack from every program & mode in DD. I was still like a million stubs from completing live series. Only left to do would be to go full hamster on a wheel and keep playing the same mini seasons over and over and over and over again….That’s a terrible lack of content if you’re being required to either play 500 rounds of mini seasons or to be a fake stock trader 24/7 flipping for pennies. Flooding the game with earnable stubs is the only answer.
Then you are full of it. I did live series NMS and only about 89 pull I got was judge, never once flipped cards, and never went 10-0. You people complaining about lack of stubs and needing more stubs are disingenuous. You all just want MORE given to you and changing focus, instead of actually talking about REAL problems in this game. Like the fact it is completely RNG dependent and not consistent at all. The fact that SDS doesn't police or research cheating reports or put anti script software into there game. NO instead you cry about a fake problem that literally anyone who sat down and played for 2 hours would know is a false statement. I just played for 2 hours only ranked and went from 800 stubs to 20k. If I spent that same time on DQ or Mini seasons I'd be at 100+k.
We have just had different experiences I guess.
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I really feel like I need a new game now for my sanity not to completely take over for this one but just to rotate in would forza 5 still have ps5 players on it till 6 releases on ps5. I’m thinking about just buying 5 to hold me over till 6. Rotate that In with some battle field 6 and I maybe able to game more casual again I maybe over reacting cause I had a aweful day on the game but I’m just feeling played out and need a change of scenery for like a week.
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@Onix_Savage22_PSN if you won’t miss the money much, do it - more games is usually better until you get past like 5
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@On_a_Power_Trip_PSN I mean as it’s on sale rn on ps it won’t hurt nearly as bad as spending the full price twice I think I may just buy 5 to told me over till 6 I’ve heard it may not come out till November December anyway so it would be with the 49$ I think. And I could get the hang of the game before 6 on ps5.
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@Onix_Savage22_PSN The playstyle of 6 is very similar to 5, so if you haven't played Forza Horizon in a long time and want to just get back into it you can't really go wrong with buying 5 now. You should still have PS5 only players on there though I'm not sure if they're still updating the festival playlists for it. There's still a lot to do in the game without those so I think it's worth it while on sale. 6 is much better in terms of the map and scenery, but unfortunately you have to wait on it to get to PS5.
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@aldridg6in_PSN yeah I think I’m gonna get 5 in the meantime should keep me going till 6 comes out between mlb and that I should be good I just needed a new game in the rotation bad cause it’s literally only been mlb since first day of early access
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I thought PS owners were getting 6 on release. What a letdown.
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6 was always billed as Xbox/Steam first with Playstation release coming later in the year.
