HOW did get to a point where ONE LS card is 700K?
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If I recall correctly there was a cap on what he could be sold for at this time last year. Then for some reason they removed or increased the cap late last year.
Really ticks me off, because yeah there is almost no way to get him now except by pulling, flipping a ton, or buying stubs... -
@aaronjw76_PSN agreed if I didn’t get insanely lucky and pull him I wouldn’t even be going for ls collection yet. I don’t think he hit 700 last year this is nuts how high is this gonna go? Does he end up breaking 800? If so just ridiculous.
He hit 800k last year actually and Judge was 500k last year.
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What until after the first RU or stub sale this year. Their prices will skyrocket.
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Trout would have gotten there in 17, but 500k was the cap. And he was at the cap till after the World Series.
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In the past the best way to get the gatekeepers was BR. A lot more people played BR then when it was its own program. Plus there was a time you could know what card you were going to get at ten wins after drafting. Thus there were a lot more cards on the market that were being sold.
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Unless you’re a OCD guy that MUST own every card, This is a great year to not do it. Extremely mid rewards, NONE of those cards will still be the best at their position in 2-3 months. LS should be viewed as purely for the OCD/Collection guys thing.
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Unless you’re a OCD guy that MUST own every card, This is a great year to not do it. Extremely mid rewards, NONE of those cards will still be the best at their position in 2-3 months. LS should be viewed as purely for the OCD/Collection guys thing.
I agree with this in general. My issue is im usually done with the game by July as kids are out of school and summer projects take over so I like to get it done so I can play with great cards while I can.
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In the past the best way to get the gatekeepers was BR. A lot more people played BR then when it was its own program. Plus there was a time you could know what card you were going to get at ten wins after drafting. Thus there were a lot more cards on the market that were being sold.
This actually makes a lot of sense. Rewards are less predictable, and overall worse for BR. Further, there are far less average and below average players playing BR, so its sweatier than summer in Charleston and flawless is tougher.
I dont think the rates are any different. Packs are obviously being earned faster than the last couple years, so that side of the supply isnt decreasing.
The part of supply that is decreasing though are the people that pull Ohtani are less likely to sell him. And demand is higher as this year the LS collection meta was to focus on Shohei first, which is possibly why you see his card well above Judge even though both have same pull odds (this was NOT the case at the start of last year, when Judge started lower than Ohtani)
As someone who is profiting off live series chasers, in past years if I pulled Ohtani early I would have sold him right away, like I did in 2024. This year I also packed him, but I feel Ill get more stubs if I wait until the first stub sale
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The years Trout was THE gatekeeper was pre covid pre inflation, everything is more expensive now
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Unless you’re a OCD guy that MUST own every card
I started DD in 2020. Got every card in 21, 22, 24 and 25 (missed a few in 23 but could have earned them in the "Forever Event" - just ran out of steam).
I'm playing less this year due to competing "life" priorities, and I'm OK with that. I'm assuming that I'll get the LS collection done at some point later this year, but I'm not sweating it. Every card in 26? I don't think I'll be close.
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@Rhyno1986_XBL oh ok my fault I wasn’t 100% sure
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Well the 20 card max is feeding the inflated prices. Less cards being available combined with “only” being able to hold 20 is driving them up. Which is interesting because in theory, it should have been helping keep prices down.
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Well the 20 card max is feeding the inflated prices. Less cards being available combined with “only” being able to hold 20 is driving them up. Which is interesting because in theory, it should have been helping keep prices down.
You are just posting nonsense in hope that someone believes it.
Some guy on the internet said Shohei's price is because of the 20 card max, it must be true!
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@Sarge1387_PSN in theory it was always going to raise them lol what the cap was going to do is exactly what it’s doing lower the value of non high tier cards due to less flipping/ investing meaning people would get less value for selling there dupes everyone still chasing the high prices diamonds once they finally have enough to get them just buy them causing the price to stay steady or increase. The only TRUE way to solve that issues is increasing the odds on pulling said players in packs
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wait so the argument here is that people theoretically selling their cards for less is what is making cards more expensive?
Make it make sense please.
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wait so the argument here is that people theoretically selling their cards for less is what is making cards more expensive?
Make it make sense please.
The prices on LS cards ,bronzes and silvers being low (what ppl pull from packs they earn) makes making stubs harder and actually does increase the value of rare cards.
That is only one of many factors involved in the high diamonds prices, another big one is for the such a very low pull rate to begin with- how many keep instead of selling because of how high the price is. -
The four fundamental principles of supply and demand are:
If supply increases while demand remains constant, price decreases.
If supply decreases while demand remains constant, price increases.
If supply is static while demand increases, price increases.
If supply is static while demand decreases, price decreases.The supply you can buy is capped it cannot increase it also stays static as 20 is the max both lead to increases on a supply perspective so your left with demand. Which above you’ll understand with a supply limit
The only thing that brings prices down at that point is a demand decrease. You have no need for bronzes commons after you pull and collect them (which is a higher pull rate) and to a lesser extent silver and gold because they are rarer to pull only reason golds are at quick sale is because of the gold exchange method causing supply to outreach demand. Now when you get to the high tier cards supply is far less available than demand. Once you finally get the required stubs to get an ohtani for example you pull the trigger more and more people will get the necessary stubs thru programs selling duplicates etc which will be all around the same time I think we’re seeing the beginning of that some may or may not buy the missing x amount of stubs when they are close. So in short the max demand for lower tier cards has been reached where as the high tier cards is just now beginning to get reached they will continue to rise until peak demand and then begin lowering.. @teak2112_mlbts -
The prices on LS cards ,bronzes and silvers being low (what ppl pull from packs they earn) makes making stubs harder and actually does increase the value of rare cards.
That is only one of many factors involved in the high diamonds prices, another big one is for the such a very low pull rate to begin with- how many keep instead of selling because of how high the price is.Stub making through gameplay is absolutely easier this year.
Yes, DQ sells for less than it did at this point last year (I think the cards were 9-10k last year at this point instead of 4.5k this year) but there was no good repeatable pack source at launch last year and this year that is not remotely the case. The theoretically lower sell value of bronzes and golds (im certainly making bank off of silvers though, I guess I have exchanges to thank for that) is made up by people having access to a LOT more packs than last year.
Then we have things like event cards back, the extra sellable cards in inning path, and more online sellable cards than last year. That all adds up.
But as you said, there are many factors and I think you hit on perhaps the biggest: people that pull him are keeping him.
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We gotta get over this nonsense that a 20 cap limit is responsible for price increases. I flip, I invest and the 20 cap limit doesn't bother me one bit.
The people bothered by the 20 cap limit are the lazy who just want the ability to put in 100 buy/sell orders and let them sit. Essentially doing almost nothing to try and earn stubs. At least with the cap, people can't just leave their orders in place and drive down margins.
Additionally, SOMEONE needs to explain HOW a cap increases the cost of high value diamonds? I get people are upset but can we stop with the hyperbole please.
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@aaronjw76_PSN It doesn't stimulate the market, when cards are going for dirt cheap there is no incentive for people to rip chase bundles. This isn't a healthy economy right now.
