Market Bots
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@Onix_Savage22_PSN I'm just relaying my experience when it happened to me previously and what I am assuming is causing the restrictions to happen. So don't take what I'm saying as 100% gospel, since I have no inside info.
Psy
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To be honest, I don't see them stating what the parameters are. As soon as they do that, the people who program or write the scripts that the bots use, will know how to get around the parameters and we are back to a bot filled market.
My only suggestion is to go slower when placing your orders. I'm assuming that the speed at which the orders are being placed or modified, along with the number of orders placed in a very short amount of time are some of the parameters being used to see if any type of automation is being used from the players.
Psy
Agreed. They are not going to tell us.
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@Onix_Savage22_PSN if you are only flipping bronze and made that much ..my god man how many orders are you doing jeez
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@PsylockeSmythe_XBL this makes sense ..but they could still give a general explanation on how to not get restricted.
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@Stinkysman77_MLBTS Most people are selfish and don’t care if it doesn’t affect them. Worse some of these guys seem happy that people are being unfairly punished. Pathetic.
It's not gleeful. I just know I am not hearing the whole story. SDS is looking for bot-like behavior in addressing the issue. If people are mirroring bot-like behavior to gain an advantage and are suspended and that makes my flipping more productive I am all for it. My advice, as someone who flips a ton, is only use one device at a time and don't open up more than one window if using the website. Best advice is to put in a bid and then walk ignore it for a while. If you find yourself cancelling bids and one upping someone over and over you look like a bot. I hope anyone who was caught in a crossfire gets their access restored though.
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@Stinkysman77_MLBTS Most people are selfish and don’t care if it doesn’t affect them. Worse some of these guys seem happy that people are being unfairly punished. Pathetic.
It's not gleeful. I just know I am not hearing the whole story. SDS is looking for bot-like behavior in addressing the issue. If people are mirroring bot-like behavior to gain an advantage and are suspended and that makes my flipping more productive I am all for it. My advice, as someone who flips a ton, is only use one device at a time and don't open up more than one window if using the website. Best advice is to put in a bid and then walk ignore it for a while. If you find yourself cancelling bids and one upping someone over and over you look like a bot. I hope anyone who was caught in a crossfire gets their access restored though.
So I went and looked at my completed orders from yesterday and I had 900 individual completed orders.
I guess I'm just failing to understand how exactly that volume can NOT illicit a restriction but the people claiming to do a few here and there ARE being restricted.
Something seems off lol
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I understand all of those who want to know what the parameters are but lets be realistic. If they actually stated
"Here are the thresholds for our bot detection"
Then the Bot programmers would simply put a throttle into their own programs to avoid it.
If I was guessing I would think that it would be some type of check for sustained activity over a set time span or average number of transactions over a set time span. Or as theBlindRhino mentioned it could be a check of how often or how quickly you cancel an order once you are outbid and then place a new order for 1 more stub.
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@aaronjw76_PSN They are lying to you!
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@Stinkysman77_MLBTS I flip 20k stubs at a time and usally walk away with 30-40k so 10-20k profit and I only flip during uptimes between 4-7pm pacific
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@Stinkysman77_MLBTS I also only do big margins like for example 50 stub buy orders 130 stub sell orders or 25 stub buy orders and 90 stub sell orders also in my stub count profit there was a aroldis Chapman pull and a Mike trout pull not all from flipping.
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@Dolenz_PSN while I agree they can't give exact parameters...but they can give some kind of advice/guidance on avoiding being caught up in it. For me for instance I only use my cell phone ..put up orders go do some work..free time check the orders...so I know I'm not going too fast...still something I did triggered a review.
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@aaronjw76_PSN 900 jeez ..I don't think I've ever cracked 200 lol and I thought I flipped a decent bit
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@aaronjw76_PSN 900 jeez ..I don't think I've ever cracked 200 lol and I thought I flipped a decent bit
I do it while on the shitter lmao
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@aaronjw76_PSN same either this between mini seasons or before bed. Since markets pick up based in pacific time and I’m on Atlantic time.
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@aaronjw76_PSN if you do it then and you reach 900...I think you need to see a doctor lol
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@Dolenz_PSN There are no rules against speed. They can’t just start restricting people because they flip too quickly without setting that expectation.
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@Dolenz_PSN There are no rules against speed. They can’t just start restricting people because they flip too quickly without setting that expectation.
Did I say it was against the rules?
I simply made a guess on what criteria they may have used to try and identify them. I
t sounds like they are reviewing mistakingly restricted accounts if tickets are submitted, although that process will never be fast enough to please those affected, especially with people submitting multiple tickets on the same issue
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@gelrat_PSN going on 72 hours for me
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@thegreatdansby_xbl me too. I hope that I hear something soon.
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@Onix_Savage22_PSN I literally would flip commons from 5 stubs to 30+ a few times a day... Pretty much until I can't take it then I that a break... I can usually go about 15 minutes before I need to say okay let me look the orders get filled and then maybe in a couple of hours I will then sell everything for significantly more than I purchased.... But I guess that makes me robot. I think they are upset that I was able to purchase Ohtsni, judge, and jram no money spent from flipping and selling every card that wasn't a live series 90+...
