20 Card Max
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@Grungypunk_MLBTS you claim that LS gatekeepers and overall collection is going to be more expensive than ever. That's bc w/ mods and inside edge those cards will play online until the all star game drop. You say that completing collections for content drops are locked behind pay walls. When in fact half of the content drops didn't even have a collection and the WC collection can be completed to get Garcia by playing the game. You're mad they put a 20 card max on so you can't flip cards and get collections done within the first month of the game. As a NMS player after the first update I'll have LS collection complete it's doable just not as easy nor should be. With the power creep and overalls being way down to start this year having 99s and high 90s in the game from LS collection would ruin the game. Play the game more you'll get better win more earn more stubs more packs more rewards all of which will help you get closer to LS collection. This isn't the early 2010 anymore complain about judge being 500k and ohtani 700k trout wasn't doing what either of them have been doing in years or even last year so of course the gate keepers are going to be higher the players are better. Flipping is possible just not at the quantity and margins as years past which is a good thing. If you want to flip cards aka day trade go download Robinhood it's a video game play the game
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@cusejuice315_PSN mlb the show 2022 and mlb the show 2023
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@cusejuice315_PSN your defending a million dollar company and ignoring the fact that i dont do anything with my life but on play video games and from 2018-2022 i had zero issues an complete collection and had a ton of stubs vs every year since 2023 they have literally made changes literally like in the most literally way possible made changes to literally reduce the amount of stubs players can make from selling cards for stubs or from just playing the game.
I literally did that from 2018-2022.
I am the no money spent.
I see it blatantly your literally ignoring the fact that i who literally had zero issues from 2018-2022 but now i point out blatantly examples of changes sds has made.
Why can you not connect the dots.
From 2018-2022 i had no problems.
But 2023-2026.
What have the changed?Cards are set at a pre set value/quick sell
All 83s are valued at the same prices regardless of supply and demand.
They added no sale cards as a fake to say its for "collections"
When in reality its a decoy.
We get less but with no sale cards its an illusion.
This has literally nothing to do with stock trading or what ever a.i [censored] your feeding me. Your probably a bot or a suit defending sds.
Sds can go [censored] them selfs you greedy [censored] suckers
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This is sds manipulating the market. This was done in 2022 and mad worse in 2023 and worse since.
This doesn't benefit the player base at all.
It's a hinder to true authentic supple and demand.
And then in 2023 they added a ton of no sale cards(which in previous years you could sell anything and everything if you didn't need it to go for other collections or things you wanted.
These 2 things literally hindering players from earning more stubs
Thats just a blatant fact.
I earned more stubs from 2018-2022.
I have no life i play nothing but video games
I am the no money spent.
Sds has gotten greedy since 2023.
Stop defending them take your ego out your [censored] and stand up for your fellow gamers and defend them from getting [censored] over by a greedy corporation.
This is exactly why i stopped playing madden and 2k.
Sds had it balanced.
You had 2 ways of doing things.
1 get every card by spending money.
Or get every card by just playing the game.
I have to play mlb show every day all day flip cards all day. Just to complete everything in a month maybe.
It used to not be like that.
I used to be able to complete the live series collections in a week or so.
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@Grungypunk_MLBTS that's what happens when you grow the game. Introduce Xbox and to a lesser extent Nintendo users into the fold there's that much more demand prices go up. Completing live series within the first month or two without any top tier pulls is completely reasonable. Prices have gone up bc there's more demand and the LS cards will play longer than any other year w/ mods and inside edge. With the increase in influencers promoting flipping methods the margins are not what they used to be and it's not as easy. If you want to complain about anyone complain about the influencers blowing it all up. Anytime there's a way to exploit a system no matter it is in life it doesn't make sense to continue to allow it to happen coming from an owners pov. So 75% of the community can have LS completed a month in before they even release content above 92. Slower drip on the overalls means LS prices stay high. More people playing DD means prices stay high. There's still plenty of obtainable cards to put together a viable squad for online play
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Sds did this intentionally.
No sale cards and putting a hard cap on cards value does not benefit the gamers at all.
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@cusejuice315_PSN You're so far off base that you can't even see the truth. These artificial limitations SDS has put on the market has basically destroyed it, what is difficult to understand about the worst market I've ever seen? You keep coming up with this non sensical argument about a Robinhood app that makes zero sense. Go look at any economy that has artificial limitations on it and tell me the results.
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its kind of funny that people are still ranting about how the 20 card max is what destroyed the economy, yet no one brings up the potential impact of massively increasing the supply of show packs this year via mini seasons
That is having a bigger impact on the market than the cap.
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@cusejuice315_PSN You're so far off base that you can't even see the truth. These artificial limitations SDS has put on the market has basically destroyed it, what is difficult to understand about the worst market I've ever seen? You keep coming up with this non sensical argument about a Robinhood app that makes zero sense. Go look at any economy that has artificial limitations on it and tell me the results.
You know what, the market was the best moving and best margins on the days where the app and website were down. Last night and one day last week (or was it the week before? were fantastic for flipping. And I truly mean fantastic.
Maybe the problem isn't the 20 card cap and it's actually those two things?
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The cap (which you all should know I hate) has had an impact, but Teak’s point about pack availability has to be a much bigger driving point. The best profit on the market are silvers right now. Why? There is an outside force driving demand for these cards. Your average player simply hits sell now when they open a pack. The buyer then turns those cheap silvers into something else in the game. Other folks see the size of the margin and flip their pre-existing inventory into stubs. Golds, beyond investment opportunities, don’t have a use unless the card is needed in a program objective. Thus we see a more stagnant gold market. LS Diamonds are down because of the abundance of the due to teak’s point about packs. The rarity of blue LS cards is the only thing propping them up. They usually crash very late in the year. I honestly think that crash comes a little sooner this year. The market is vastly different than years past. The cap IS a part of that, but we haven’t seen the cap impact fully played out until after the first RU. Right now pack abundance is our number one impact point.
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The rarity of blue LS cards is the only thing propping them up. They usually crash very late in the year. I honestly think that crash comes a little sooner this year.
This is my thought too. I do believe supply is up, but even the increased supply isnt putting a dent into the early demand. But at some point it should catch up. Not likely before the AS break, but none of us know right now
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@LHUBison58_XBL live series diamonds are on the exact same pace as past years. They slowly decrease as the year goes on (minus the 90+s). Ohtani is more this year than any past game though. Overall I don’t think the cop out of market health makes sense with the current state of the market
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By September(and I haven’t bothered to look this data up) the crash occurs. I could see it before that this year. But this is all guessing. But I do know the gold and low diamond market is cooked. I’m also interested to see team makeups in this weekend classic. I know I’m only playing the following LS cards in my lineup: Corbin Carrol (p5) and Judge (p5) and possibly JRam (p5). Everyone else is a program card or LS collection card. I will have Ohtani until his first start then I’m yanking him and putting in Leiter. I just want that extra bat on the bench for the first four games. I’m not sure many of the LS diamonds are better than the current program cards.
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@Teak2112_MLBTS I like it how sds decided to worry about a card limit this year instead of any kind of counter to cheating via Cronus. It’s been insanely bad on 2k they had to have figured out it was gonna be bad for mlb too. Last I seen in the top 300 players less than 10% were actual players the rest obvious bots. Absolutely clueless company. I promise you multiple people are gonna be replaced if they don’t turn the game around. It’s the last good year Sony is gonna have with a mlb game for probably at last A year, and sds is blowing it.
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the vast majority of golds and low diamonds were going for quick sell at this time last year too, thats nothing different. Maybe they settled to quick sell a bit faster.
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@Teak2112_MLBTS thats not even remotely how supply and demand works at all
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@ApolloZ_99_MLBTS or ask for less, and more free stuff. there is a fine line, its hard for any company to make money and make the community happy.
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@Gone-Viral_XBL almost every card in Mut is a re-release or an LTD. Mut gameplay alone is a turn-off. Never played CUT. But most seem to prefer it to Mut. I mean Mut basically just dropped a Lamar card that was unobtainable unless you spent hundreds of dollars in real money.
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@Grungypunk_MLBTS they could make it a little easier but these collections are supposed to take a little bit or time. You shouldn’t have 3 99s within the first month of a game release.
