20 Card Max
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@cusejuice315_PSN You're so far off base that you can't even see the truth. These artificial limitations SDS has put on the market has basically destroyed it, what is difficult to understand about the worst market I've ever seen? You keep coming up with this non sensical argument about a Robinhood app that makes zero sense. Go look at any economy that has artificial limitations on it and tell me the results.
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its kind of funny that people are still ranting about how the 20 card max is what destroyed the economy, yet no one brings up the potential impact of massively increasing the supply of show packs this year via mini seasons
That is having a bigger impact on the market than the cap.
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@cusejuice315_PSN You're so far off base that you can't even see the truth. These artificial limitations SDS has put on the market has basically destroyed it, what is difficult to understand about the worst market I've ever seen? You keep coming up with this non sensical argument about a Robinhood app that makes zero sense. Go look at any economy that has artificial limitations on it and tell me the results.
You know what, the market was the best moving and best margins on the days where the app and website were down. Last night and one day last week (or was it the week before? were fantastic for flipping. And I truly mean fantastic.
Maybe the problem isn't the 20 card cap and it's actually those two things?
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The cap (which you all should know I hate) has had an impact, but Teak’s point about pack availability has to be a much bigger driving point. The best profit on the market are silvers right now. Why? There is an outside force driving demand for these cards. Your average player simply hits sell now when they open a pack. The buyer then turns those cheap silvers into something else in the game. Other folks see the size of the margin and flip their pre-existing inventory into stubs. Golds, beyond investment opportunities, don’t have a use unless the card is needed in a program objective. Thus we see a more stagnant gold market. LS Diamonds are down because of the abundance of the due to teak’s point about packs. The rarity of blue LS cards is the only thing propping them up. They usually crash very late in the year. I honestly think that crash comes a little sooner this year. The market is vastly different than years past. The cap IS a part of that, but we haven’t seen the cap impact fully played out until after the first RU. Right now pack abundance is our number one impact point.
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The rarity of blue LS cards is the only thing propping them up. They usually crash very late in the year. I honestly think that crash comes a little sooner this year.
This is my thought too. I do believe supply is up, but even the increased supply isnt putting a dent into the early demand. But at some point it should catch up. Not likely before the AS break, but none of us know right now
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@LHUBison58_XBL live series diamonds are on the exact same pace as past years. They slowly decrease as the year goes on (minus the 90+s). Ohtani is more this year than any past game though. Overall I don’t think the cop out of market health makes sense with the current state of the market
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By September(and I haven’t bothered to look this data up) the crash occurs. I could see it before that this year. But this is all guessing. But I do know the gold and low diamond market is cooked. I’m also interested to see team makeups in this weekend classic. I know I’m only playing the following LS cards in my lineup: Corbin Carrol (p5) and Judge (p5) and possibly JRam (p5). Everyone else is a program card or LS collection card. I will have Ohtani until his first start then I’m yanking him and putting in Leiter. I just want that extra bat on the bench for the first four games. I’m not sure many of the LS diamonds are better than the current program cards.
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@Teak2112_MLBTS I like it how sds decided to worry about a card limit this year instead of any kind of counter to cheating via Cronus. It’s been insanely bad on 2k they had to have figured out it was gonna be bad for mlb too. Last I seen in the top 300 players less than 10% were actual players the rest obvious bots. Absolutely clueless company. I promise you multiple people are gonna be replaced if they don’t turn the game around. It’s the last good year Sony is gonna have with a mlb game for probably at last A year, and sds is blowing it.
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the vast majority of golds and low diamonds were going for quick sell at this time last year too, thats nothing different. Maybe they settled to quick sell a bit faster.
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@Teak2112_MLBTS thats not even remotely how supply and demand works at all
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@ApolloZ_99_MLBTS or ask for less, and more free stuff. there is a fine line, its hard for any company to make money and make the community happy.
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@Gone-Viral_XBL almost every card in Mut is a re-release or an LTD. Mut gameplay alone is a turn-off. Never played CUT. But most seem to prefer it to Mut. I mean Mut basically just dropped a Lamar card that was unobtainable unless you spent hundreds of dollars in real money.
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@Grungypunk_MLBTS they could make it a little easier but these collections are supposed to take a little bit or time. You shouldn’t have 3 99s within the first month of a game release.
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@LIONED-33_XBL community ain’t ever really happened in a sports game. If it’s not collections or pricing then it’s something with gameplay. Which is the problem with a yearly release.
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@LIONED-33_XBL community ain’t ever really happened in a sports game. If it’s not collections or pricing then it’s something with gameplay. Which is the problem with a yearly release.
There are always going to be competing positions within a community. The obvious two are
Some people want the game be purely skill based and some prefer it to play like baseball
Some people like grinds, some people want low effort contentThey will never be bale to make everyone happy
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@ApolloZ_99_MLBTS from 2018-2022 you did. And it was healthy and everyone benefited.
I dont give a rats [censored] about the 100 people it benefits.
I want the game, the games economy.
To benefit everyone who logs into and plays mlb the show
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@Grungypunk_MLBTS And the bottom line is it's not a free economy right now, it's an economy with restrictions. I understand the 20 card limit is trying to prevent so much stub flow but where did they arrive at 20 from? It seems like such a small number.
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@ApolloZ_99_MLBTS from 2018-2022 you did. And it was healthy and everyone benefited.
I dont give a rats [censored] about the 100 people it benefits.
I want the game, the games economy.
To benefit everyone who logs into and plays mlb the show
I mean, its better for me.
I make way more stubs this year compared to the last couple years because of the increased packs
And non live series cards are in good shape in general.I cant compare to 2018. Nor do i care to. Game is still extremely NMS friendly. Maybe its less live series collection month 1 friendly.
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@peelwonder_PSN its not just the 20 card limit on its own. People listen please.
Yall get off to only fans girls.
I get off to math we aint the same.
This is all simple math.
The 20 card limit(2026)
️ cards quick sell values capped(2022/2023) ️additions of no sale cards(2022/2023) = thr current market we have todayIn early 2020s trout was 500k.
Ar 1st glance ooooo thats 200k less tha. Sheoi today.
Gues what.
In 2026 ALL GOLDS,SILVERS, AND BRONZES dont add up to 100k.
Youd have to collect the entire mlb rosters sell them roughly 15 times just to afford shoei.
When trout was 500k.
All golds silvers and bronzes added up to 1 million.
Meaning eve. If you pulled golds n silvers.
You could sell your duplicates and buy the 500k mike trout in roughly a weak of juat selling your duplicates.
Back in 2020. You had golds going for 4-7k eack
And some silvers going for 1k each
And bronzes going for 500 stubs.
I can buy an entire team today with like 1800 stubs. Because golds, silvers and bronzes are worth literally [censored] in todays game.
Allll of the market value has shifted to the top 5 cards making 99.8% of the other cards have no value.
So the only cards worth literally anything is the cards that have a 1% drop rate and everyone would have to open 10000 packs.
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@Grungypunk_MLBTS Nice summation actually, lowering the QS values on Golds really mucked it up.
