Name a legend that moves the needle.
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@TheGoaler_MLBTS I don’t think they can top Beltran, but they don’t have to. I just hope it’s not that Pujols card. Going from arguably the best reward we’ve ever had to the worst in a year without many exciting new features will be rough.
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For me it's Juan Gonzalez. It's literally the reason i skip on DD every year and play Franchise instead. Being able to create some of those iconic Texas lineups from the 90's is just too much fun. No offense to DD though it looks promising this year and with Pujols back i may just cave and play the mode. Unfortunately Texas isn't well represented. Sorry Kinsler & Young not the Rangers legends I am looking for. Other needle mover names would be Canseco, Belle, of course Arod, Bonds. Either way you can guarentee ill be creating these players on night one of early release. It's a win win either way when ya just love the history of baseball.
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@DrBear100_PSN I could not care less about Kirby Puckett and unsubstantiated 25 year old allegations. These things have nothing to do with baseball. I get not putting say Wander Franco in the game and Alomar because his ban probably prevents them from using him, but some of these guys they are avoiding are clearly political.
I mean, 'unsubstantiated allegations' is sugarcoating it a bit. he was acquitted in a court case, but both his wife and mistress had calls to the police about him as well.
Now that I think of it, Lofton I believe sent certain pics. Not defending that, but I wouldn't be shocked if he finds his way back in. But we don't even have the budget version of him (Juan Pierre) in game either as its not a popular archetype. Kenny Lofton has a far higher career WAR than I bet most of us realize though
But all of these cases are speculation (well besides Alomar really), for all we know SDS contacted Puckett's estate and they said no. And they contacted Lofton and got back something that looks like some ranked team logos I have seen
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@Teak2112_MLBTS That’s not what happened with Puckett. He came back in 21 with an 89 at launch. People criticized them because of that controversy. He didn’t get another card and he was gone the following year.
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Depends on what kind of needle we’re talking about. Bonds, ARod, and Canseco all moved plenty of needles. McGwire, Sosa, Ortiz, and Palmeiro are all also bigtime needle movers who are in the game.
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I get everything you say. Someone like Puckett most people who play video games I feel will be like, oh cool, Kirby and play him not stopping to think about any allegations just because he is a legend. Someone like Rose okay, I get it there is obviously way too much baggage with him. I think it would be the same for the steroid era players that people will oh cool, look at what I got and use their cards. I assume it's scant minority that complains about such players while the majority can careless. Maybe I'm wrong.
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I tend to agree. Especially for guys like Puckett that arent profiting off it anyway.
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@DrBear100_PSN With Pete Rose dead and reinstated, he should be brought into the game.
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If we ever lose Honus Wagner, my heart will break into a million pieces.
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Robin ventura was my favorite player... So him
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@DrBear100_PSN With Pete Rose dead and reinstated, he should be brought into the game.
I get both sides of the argument, he carries [censored] ton more baggage then most that found their way into trouble, I do lean towards letting him into game. He's not going profit off of it being dead. He's estate would though.
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@DrBear100_PSN I doubt many fans of this game care about his controversy.
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@DrBear100_PSN I doubt many fans of this game care about his controversy.
Agreed
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I do. And I'm generally quiet about that kind of stuff on here. I'm sure many others care as well. Just like social media though, some of the loudest voices here are the type who don't care about right/wrong and just want to see things implemented the way they want to 'own' the other side.
But just because a few of you bring it up doesn't mean Alomar, Rose, Puckett, et al will ever be in the game.
And I for one am very happy to know that -
But just because a few of you bring it up doesn't mean Alomar, Rose, Puckett, et al will ever be in the game.
And I for one am very happy to know thatSo basically, you're doing what you say other people are doing. Trying to "own the other side". How does it benefit you or make your life better in any way to know that these players won't be in the game? You're happy about it because it means you can "own" those of us that don't give a [censored] about their off-field issues.
What's wrong with having options? You don't wanna use them, great...you don't have to. That doesn't mean the rest of us shouldn't have that choice.
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I'm happy that people who did awful things aren't in my favorite video game. If you're indifferent to the terrible things they did, including pain and suffering they caused to some, then I have little sympathy for you
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I’d add Ichiro and Deion (I know he wasn’t the greatest, but then man does move needles.)
Ichiro for sure! Does he still have the deal with Japanese Baseball that kept them from signing him?
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Depends on what kind of needle we’re talking about. Bonds, ARod, and Canseco all moved plenty of needles. McGwire, Sosa, Ortiz, and Palmeiro are all also bigtime needle movers who are in the game.
Notice the BIGGEST needle movers aren’t in the game. Bonds and Canseco.
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Robin ventura was my favorite player... So him
I 'Met' Ventura twice in 2000. Once in the first half of the season, the other the 2nd.
Soooper nice guy. I worked for the parking company back then. Got to work the players parking lot a few times, so I got to meet a lot. McGwire, Piazza, Leiter, Vlad Sr., etc!! It was nuts. A baseball fan's dream. 98% my co-workers were clueless about baseball. I was in heaven!!!!
One thing I'll never forget is meeting Mike Hampton twice, 1st half then 2nd half. The 2nd time, I could tell he wasn't really 'feeling' NY. I wasn't shocked when he left.
Was he in the show? I can't remember. He could hit as well!
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I’m terrified of losing Wagner as well. I never played the game when Cobb was in. I feel like he’d be a similar hitter to Honus but left handed. He’s also strictly an outfielder. I really want Cobb in the game. I love the nostalgia of those SUPER old players. It hurt to lose Walter Johnson last year. I don’t get that. He didn’t have a long windup and he was super fun to play with. Tris Speaker is another guy players talk about. Never got to play with him either.
