Early thoughts - DD is going to frustrate the more casual and semi casual players.
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I'm going to with hood judgememt for now. The grind does appear to be back which I think is a positive however I do agree with OP that could be an over correct from the past two years. SDS opened paandoras box the last two years and made everything very quick to get things done that going back to the old style may turn people off
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I swear you guys drive me nuts sometimes…I think people like saying “Let’s Grind!” But what they mean is “I want EVERYTHING completed & done day 1!”
And while it looks daunting, It’s really not. Once you start hitting milestone stats, It’s going to fly.
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@Teak2112_MLBTS said in Early thoughts - DD is going to frustrate the more casual and semi casual players.:
@Blind_Bleeder_PSN said in Early thoughts - DD is going to frustrate the more casual and semi casual players.:
@Dolenz_PSN said in Early thoughts - DD is going to frustrate the more casual and semi casual players.:
@Blind_Bleeder_PSN Where do the cards for the optional missions come from?
I don’t know. I didn’t get that far into analyzing the program. Maybe packs?
Showdown
yep, the last 4 cards needed for the Spring Breakout are in the SB Showdown. i have completed it once, really dreading playing it 3 more times just for the other 3 gold cards
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@Teak2112_MLBTS The showdown for spring breakout is not required to finish the program because there is a repeatable mission that you can do. I think eventually the pack that you get by completing the s hi showdown you will get eventually
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@IrishFist412_MLBTS said in Early thoughts - DD is going to frustrate the more casual and semi casual players.:
I swear you guys drive me nuts sometimes…I think people like saying “Let’s Grind!” But what they mean is “I want EVERYTHING completed & done day 1!”
And while it looks daunting, It’s really not. Once you start hitting milestone stats, It’s going to fly.
Well, in my defense I have never been one who wanted to see huge grinds come back. I don't mind some some grind but with the time I invest in the game each year (roughly 300 hours) I don't necessarily want 250+ hours to be spent grinding with cards and players I don't care about in order to earn a few cards that I do want.
While I mentioned mentioned Team Affinity, my post was not entirely about team affinity.
It is also not just about me as I have stuck with the game through the good and bad years (and will usually be called an SDS shill at some point every year).The point of the thread kind of boils down to 2 points for me.
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I grow tired of grinding for cards that I want to use only to be asked to take them out if I want to efficiently grind for my next target. I am happy that I got my Jim Edmonds card, Cradinals Carlos Beltran, Bob Gibson, Quinn Mathews, etc. But now it is better if I take those guys out so that I can earn stats with other teams or PXP with other cards to earn JJ Weatherholt.
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I see the starting programs and grinds as something new players will struggle with immensely. The moments, Showdown and Diamond Quest are difficult for beginners. New players who get the game on Tues will receive 5 packs (20 player cards) they will not have the player pool needed to grind Team Stat missions for the Spring Breakout program.
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Pipeline program was completed with few problems. I didn't even know about a Pipeline Diamond Quest so you definitely don't need that. For the moments I think I skipped one or two of them and still finished the program. I wanted the 87 Roman Anthony (Sox prospect) and now that I have him, I don't have to care about Pipeline anymore.
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@Teak2112_MLBTS said in Early thoughts - DD is going to frustrate the more casual and semi casual players.:
@PAinPA_PSN said in Early thoughts - DD is going to frustrate the more casual and semi casual players.:
I'm not worried about those, the all star voucher won't be used till July,as hefty as those stats are even someone who prefers their home team could have all 30 done by then,same for finest.
300 hits x 30 teams is a LOT. And what about the people who start in June?
I do think (hope?) they have an answer for this, but for now its just uncertaintyI do believe they will add missions to it,and if they were get to June and they see not a lot have been earned they will add even more.
As for the mission totals-got to take it context, I've played all 3 USA maps and 4 strongholds of cactus and have 196 hits (total) and my hitting is still off an on right now, those missions will complete faster than it seems they will. -
TA seems daunting because it’s planned out for the whole year and you look at your percentage and it’s like 3% when you get to the “captain”. Don’t worry about TA at all unless you want some favorite players in there. It will all come naturally. Focus on the programs which are laid out nicely (except doing the spring out breakout showdown 4 times). SDS can always find ways to help us out throughout the year. They want us to experience the content that they’ve worked on.
It’s only day 3 today and there’s obviously the rest of the year left so for anyone feeling discouraged just enjoy the game and take it slow. You’ll get everything you want in the game.
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@Teak2112_MLBTS said in Early thoughts - DD is going to frustrate the more casual and semi casual players.:
@trfatboy22_PSN said in Early thoughts - DD is going to frustrate the more casual and semi casual players.:
This is why I think Diamond Quest is an L. The RNG to get the rewards makes me not even want to spend the time trying. I'm ok having to achieve things to get rewards. But achieving them and still not getting them while also NOT getting PXP or Missions Advancement for most of the effort makes me wanna avoid the mode entirely.
I thought this is how i would feel, but if you blitz the two stadiums youll at least get 2 packs, plus any packs for mini boss stages along the way. Completing the full board to me is NOT worth it.
Note that the mini boss showdown stages count towards mission goals so you can use them for that (within reason, you dont want to be bringing bronzes)
The good thing is that these will ultimately be dirt cheap since they are easy to obtain for people that can hit high difficulties who will flood the market.
What's Crochet selling for now?
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I failed the Spring Breakout Showdown 2 more times this morning. Maybe I have just gotten bad at the game in my old age
After I lost the second attempt I exited the game and fired up The Crew Motorfest to check out the island of Maui which they added for free. I'll go back to The Show after lunch and start another conquest map. My biggest decisions will be who to put on the squad in order to slowly progress missions while trying to keep in a few Cardinals that I would like to keep using (Edmonds & Beltran)
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@Dolenz_PSN said in Early thoughts - DD is going to frustrate the more casual and semi casual players.:
@IrishFist412_MLBTS said in Early thoughts - DD is going to frustrate the more casual and semi casual players.:
I swear you guys drive me nuts sometimes…I think people like saying “Let’s Grind!” But what they mean is “I want EVERYTHING completed & done day 1!”
And while it looks daunting, It’s really not. Once you start hitting milestone stats, It’s going to fly.
Well, in my defense I have never been one who wanted to see huge grinds come back. I don't mind some some grind but with the time I invest in the game each year (roughly 300 hours) I don't necessarily want 250+ hours to be spent grinding with cards and players I don't care about in order to earn a few cards that I do want.
While I mentioned mentioned Team Affinity, my post was not entirely about team affinity.
It is also not just about me as I have stuck with the game through the good and bad years (and will usually be called an SDS shill at some point every year).The point of the thread kind of boils down to 2 points for me.
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I grow tired of grinding for cards that I want to use only to be asked to take them out if I want to efficiently grind for my next target. I am happy that I got my Jim Edmonds card, Cradinals Carlos Beltran, Bob Gibson, Quinn Mathews, etc. But now it is better if I take those guys out so that I can earn stats with other teams or PXP with other cards to earn JJ Weatherholt.
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I see the starting programs and grinds as something new players will struggle with immensely. The moments, Showdown and Diamond Quest are difficult for beginners. New players who get the game on Tues will receive 5 packs (20 player cards) they will not have the player pool needed to grind Team Stat missions for the Spring Breakout program.
I totally understand what you’re saying bud. Just remember - You don’t have to have every card. There’s nothing wrong with letting a couple hard to earn cards go. What I love about DD is you can compete & win without needing the best cards. Play at your speed & what you enjoy playing and everything will fall into place. Try it & see! No need to get stressed, This is for fun & enjoyment!
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@Dolenz_PSN Well the dirt cheap AI, all of the opposing defense making gold glove plays with 100% precision, The RNG, the sliders make it so you're swing a noodle...sure to fire anyone up
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I want to press X when I boot up the game and have everything handed to me.
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@Dolenz_PSN I still get the point you are saying … but you kinda generalized this post a little too much. I understand, that the tasks sometimes may be too hard for you. But if you do them too easy other people will complain that there is nothing to do for them. It looks like you have to let out some obstacles you will face. I am also over the half-century-mark … and I will gladly face any challenge, as long as there is one
… I have not touched this year‘s game but from watching everything on streams I suppose that only time will be the biggest challenge for me, since I can only start this thursday.
Last thing: Give everything some time. You are one of the very good ones here, just trust the process -
@Blind_Bleeder_PSN
They come from beating the showdown. You have to beat the showdown 4 times to get all the cards for the Spring Breakout collection. Showdown is the most frustrating mode ever created as you get literally nothing if you fail after hours of work. I really hope they either eliminate the mode or implement a '3 strikes' policy to make showdown actually more achievable for casual players. I know I won't be beating the showdown at all (simply not worth the time and frustration) and will just have to grind pxp to beat the mission and give up on the collection. -
@yankblan_PSN said in Early thoughts - DD is going to frustrate the more casual and semi casual players.:
I want to press X when I boot up the game and have everything handed to me.
Anybody who has been around these forums knows that I have never been one who has had that mindset.
I finished most of the showdowns people complained about last year. I have already done all of the Spring Breakout and Pipeline moments. I have completed several Conquest maps.
I still believe that new players are going to struggle and be frustrated. I could say the same thing about Elden Ring. That does not mean that I am saying that they are bad games, just frustrating for a portion of the player base.
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@coyoteofthewind_MLBTS this showdown will not take hours, there are 6 bosses… I know it will not help, but … best advice for showdown. Be patient, you will get one meatball in mostly every at bat. Hit those and do not swing at litches on the corners or outside the zone
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@coyoteofthewind_MLBTS said in Early thoughts - DD is going to frustrate the more casual and semi casual players.:
@Blind_Bleeder_PSN
They come from beating the showdown. You have to beat the showdown 4 times to get all the cards for the Spring Breakout collection. Showdown is the most frustrating mode ever created as you get literally nothing if you fail after hours of work. I really hope they either eliminate the mode or implement a '3 strikes' policy to make showdown actually more achievable for casual players. I know I won't be beating the showdown at all (simply not worth the time and frustration) and will just have to grind pxp to beat the mission and give up on the collection.Yeah…I don’t do showdowns, so I’ll never see those cards.
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I don't do showdowns either, just not worth the aggravation of loosing when you get close to finishing. To make it like that just to get those cards is crazy and to have to do it 4 times just to get all of the cards is also crazy
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Showdowns are really easy if you use directional hitting
