Please nerf these disgraceful stadiums
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@YOSHI24_XBL said in Please nerf these disgraceful stadiums:
Let‘s focus on the real meaning of this thread since some devs returned
…Please nerf these disgraceful stadiums or do not allow them in competitive modes. Thanks in advance
It really doesn't make sense that they nerf created stadiums from being outrageous yet allow shield woods and capital Lange... Also, why nerf shippett if you're going to put two fields in that play more silly than shippett did?
I personally don't feel Coors or laughing mtn play anywhere close to as dumb as shield woods. Shield woods like 83moh exit velo pop ups are hr
Maybe events just let anyone use whatever dumb stadium and we can just quit the game with no penalty if we don't like the stadium
But ranked/br shouldn't be little league fields
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@ref479ode_PSN said in Please nerf these disgraceful stadiums:
... why nerf shippett if you're going to put two fields in that play more silly than shippett did?
That's a really good question. People that want a child's stadium to pad stats to complete missions (I don't enjoy that, either, but if people want to do that on their own time, it doesn't affect me) in a single player mode can play at a created stadium, but there's no need for these in competitive modes.
Like they emphasized in the stream, "this is a baseball simulation," and when making adjustments elsewhere in the game to make it play more realistically, why throw all of that out the window and completely ruin the experience for those who don't want to leave the game feeling dumber for having wasted their time playing something that in no way can be called baseball?
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Sorry, the og specifically called out Shield Woods (and meant the other crazy Capital Lange). I understand, that Coors is real … and Coors is not the problem (yes, it is bad, but it is not that arcady). It is those really bad stadiums, that do not play like baseball should be played. That is the point … for competitive purposes.
Shippet wasn‘t nearly that bad before they nerfed it@GoozeFn_PSN Yes, you can pick whatever you want … I cannot get into your way. That was not the purpose of this thread. The devs should just make either a) play Shield Woods like a normal field or b) cancel it just straight out (if they can‘t). Either way, problem solved
@The_Joneser_PSN perfect summary, thanks. I do have hope
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I try to look at things for the good they bring, Not the negative. Yes, I prefer playing in the Negro League stadiums because I love the historical feel of these ballparks & seeing the people dressed to the 9’s. And the games tend to play out more realistically with scores usually like 2-0 or 4-3, ect…But when I get matched up in a short fence/max elevation stadium I try to be thankful for the opportunity to have a shootout which will help progress my team more quickly. While the experience is silly, Try to look at it as a form of balance to your stats if you care about such things. It’s all about perspective. When you try to see the good in everything and accept that you can’t control it and let go - You will find peace & happiness.
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@IrishFist412_MLBTS, I appreciate that you’re being positive, and that’s fine and good.
My perspective is that there are many days where I can squeeze one game in, maybe two if I’m lucky. I play because I love baseball, and as my ability to actually play it physically has long passed, this game is as visceral an experience as I can have… when a taste of that is what I want in the 50 minutes I might have free to play, a game in Shield Woods is a let down at best, and mostly a miserable experience.
I am fortunate that my wife is a PC gamer and I have many weekend mornings that allow for long stretches of play as we sit together, drink our coffee, and chat. Capitol Lange and Shield Woods are more like background noise on those days, as I disengage and allow them to run their course; my enjoyment comes more from the shared space and visitations from cats than the game I’m putting up with.
Even on those days, in that frame of mind, those parks suck. Happy people at peace should still make that distinction.
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@IrishFist412_MLBTS I get it … good approach. For me it is the same as @The_Joneser_PSN I try to have 1-2 nice baseball games … Usually the games at disgraceful shield woods play like a moonshot event … everybody has some ridiculous HRs and the game ends in some obscure box score.
I also had close low-scoring games there … BUT every one of them was decided by a ridiculous HR. If you watch streams you will see lots of those.
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which also brings me to the same point that @The_Joneser_PSN had. I want to have a good experience playing the best sports. These disgraceful games at Shield Woods/Capital Lange do not give me a good experience at all. The score (I do win there) is not the deciding factor in it.Again, if I had one wish I‘d rather prefer having good realistic stadiums to play in than any gameplay upgrades (although I gladly take all of them, they just presented
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@YOSHI24_XBL How about just stop being a baby about other peoples choice and play the game? There’s lots of parks I don’t like playing in. My answer to that is never get rid of them. Some people like playing in those parks. It’s not all about you.
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@GoozeFn_PSN Is this whole post your way to debate? Well … maybe try and think about it for a couple of moments … I thought you were better than this. Try to be better.
But, last try. Read it slowly
. I do not talk about other player‘s choices … I talk about stadiums, that do not play realistic (again, Coors is real, Coors still is not the problem). My post is not pointed at players … it is pointed at the creators with a request to nerf those stadiums that are just a disgrace for their beautiful baseball sim. And I specifically talk about Shield Woods and Capital Lange -
I don't feel like those stadiums need to be nerfed. What's wrong with having max elevation stadiums in the game
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@sbchamps17_NSW said in Please nerf these disgraceful stadiums:
I don't feel like those stadiums need to be nerfed. What's wrong with having max elevation stadiums in the game
There is nothing wrong but if you do not see the difference between Coors and e.g. Shield Woods, then you either do not play the game enough or you do not see any problems with constant poor hits leaving the stadium… Both could be fine for you tho
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I was 56-3 and just got capital Lange and then shield woods... I just quit out. I think I'm gonna do that next year too and to hell with the record. I'm not gonna spend 50 mins of my life playing at this arcade game stadiums
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@sbchamps17_NSW, there’s nothing wrong with a high elevation park, so long as it's designed like a high elevation park.
They’re typically quite large, like Coors or the fictitious Laughing Mountain (thus, pretty realistic). Even the highest real minor league park (Security Service Field in Colorado Springs at 6,500 ft) is 350 down the lines… and they all typically use humidors for ball storage to combat the effects of high altitude.
The whole point of doing that is to prevent the game from playing too differently in high altitude places; pains are taken in real life to prevent cheap home runs because too many would skew statistics and change the way the game is played… allowing that—actually inviting that—in a baseball simulation is nonsensical. There are no high elevation band boxes for a reason.
Save those parks for people who want to play moonshot events. They don’t belong in Ranked.
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@YOSHI24_XBL I understand your point. You want to take away the choices you don’t like entirely. How is that different? I’ll just never understand this mentality. Getting rid of things some people like because others don’t like it is bad for the game. With the amount of times I’ve played online at these parks you don’t like, I’d say you’re in the minority here.
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@GoozeFn_PSN First of all: Way to debate, you do not have to get personal. Your assumption in sentence 2 is wrong. This thread is called … „ … nerf …“ not „… ban …“
SDS often talks about things that make their game play more realistic … more like a baseball sim (rewatch the last feature premiere if you like) … If that is their goal, my personal feedback is directly pointed at that.
My feedback is pointed at the game that does not play like it is intended to and I presented stats to prove it (nobody puts up 6 HR on average in any ballpark).And I do not get why they nerfed shippet in 22… just to put in way more bad stadiums.
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@GoozeFn_PSN said in Please nerf these disgraceful stadiums:
... You want to take away the choices you don’t like entirely. How is that different? I’ll just never understand this mentality. Getting rid of things some people like because others don’t like it is bad for the game.
Hmm... I think this is a bit disingenuous. You seem like a reasonable guy, but that's not.
A lot of people like terrible things, and the fact that people like something is no reason to hold it sacrosanct when it serves a purpose antithetical to the stated mission. I bet people liked being able to stock their infield with poorly rated defenders with monstrous power and pay no defensive price because the fielding animations let them get to most balls anyway... that was just taken away in the name of realism. I bet people liked and benefited from longer pause timers, but that was often abused and it was taken away because some viewed it as a QOL issue.
My point is that some things actually have an effect on the game or the people playing the game, and there's nothing wrong with the mentality of those who think things like that should be considered for change or be taken away because it will improve gameplay overall. Shitbird little parks on mountain tops affect game play and move it away from the stated purpose of this game; they allow one player to decide that the other is going to enter a pop fly hitting contest instead of playing a baseball game with some semblance of realism.
This isn't like wanting to take away Timing in online play, nor is it about removing OOP cards that changed nothing because some people don't like those things despite not being affected in any measurable way. Those parks have a measurable effect, and it's a stupid one.
Shield Woods is actually a pretty park, and it would be fine if it was at sea level, but as those parks are, they're no better than Costco, and those things shouldn't be in the 9-inning competitive mode. Let them exist in single player, or events, or wherever else people go to boost their stats and cut corners to advance player progression.
Realism in ranked shouldn't suffer because some people like dumb things.
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@YOSHI24_XBL Not sure what you mean by making it personal. I did misrepresent what you were saying though. Nerfing isn’t the same thing as getting rid of it. I just think people should be able to choose whatever park they want. I don’t like other people dictating my choices. These are the same type of complaints that got CAPs removed from DD because people are soft.
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@The_Joneser_PSN It’s a level playing field. Both people are playing on the same field.
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@GoozeFn_PSN, that's the problem.
In seriousness, the other things I mentioned were also equally applied. Doesn't mean they should have been allowed to stay.
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@YOSHI24_XBL said in Please nerf these disgraceful stadiums:
If MLB The Show wants to be a game resembling the real game just a tiny bit … there has to be action taken. I understand it is a videogame and it is about „having fun“
I ... don't think you do understand. People aren't paying $70-100 bucks just to hit a routine fly to right.
Besides, nonstop Home Run Derby is more realistic than you think.
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@SaveFarris_PSN Yes, but no
… It is not realistic. In 2024 for the whole MLB there were 1,23 HR per Game. Coors hat a 7 percent higher average than that. Even I can top those numbers playing at Shield easily. And I do not think that MLB the Show should play like MLB the Homerun Simulator. I get that you like it but that does not mean that I have to like it too … And I do not have to like the fact (try and look it up in the ingame stats department) that Homeruns are hit at an absurd level …. and the main reason are those disgraceful stadiums@GoozeFn_PSN That logic is crazy. I have to accept a broken system because it levels out? Last question: Is feedback only okay if it matches your opinion? Feedback also does not level out
