Does SDS hate Willie Mays?!
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@fubar2k7_PSN said in Does SDS hate Willie Mays?!:
@kingdutch_PSN said in Does SDS hate Willie Mays?!:
@fubar2k7_PSN said in Does SDS hate Willie Mays?!:
Mantle is probably the best 5 tool player ever and had one of the best cards in the game. I have zero idea what the heck they’re smoking over there lately. Feels like they’re cheating him to make Mantle and Aaron look better and I love Mantle and Aaron as players so I’m not trashing either of them. They’re just not Mays in my opinion.
It’s ok if you like Mantle better, but you can’t honestly look at the careers of Mantle and Mays and says Mantle was better. Mays has him beat in almost every major category (batting avg, hits, HRs, runs, RBIs, stolen bases, gold glove awards, and WAR). I have no problem with Mantle and Aaron either, but neither of them were the ALL AROUND player that Mays was. Aaron might have been a better power hitter, but even though he had 1,500 more plate appearances than Mays, their HRs, hits, and runs scored aren’t that far apart.
I meant to say Mays in my initial comment. If you read the rest it should make more sense replacing Mantle with Mays there. I shouldn’t be in here and doing the moments at the same time. Apparently at my age I can’t multitask.
No worries, I get it now! Makes more sense
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Negro League players get added finally. Willie was in the Negro Leagues. Willie still gets underrated.
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I didn’t know will was in the negro leagues. That’s pretty cool. Still prime Willy vs prime mantle, I’d go switch hitting mantle everytime. Lol
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@EzMack_NSW said in Does SDS hate Willie Mays?!:
I didn’t know will was in the negro leagues. That’s pretty cool. Still prime Willy vs prime mantle, I’d go switch hitting mantle everytime. Lol
I love them both but the speed and defense puts Willie over Mickey for me when I rate them in real life. Plus, I can’t hit with Mickey to save my life. I’ve done better with the captain Willie Mays than Commerce Commet.
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If mantle didn’t hurt himself on the sprinkler head on the field I bet his speed would be insane. That was his rookie year. We actually have never seen mantle at full health. Imagine he would have alot more attributes in his career. I think DiMaggio set him up. Lol just playing
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@EzMack_NSW said in Does SDS hate Willie Mays?!:
Mays was great but I’d rather have a yaz or Ted Williams.
Fair enough, but the point is: do you want a Ted Williams with 97 contact?
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Attribute ratings have been screwy for a while. They have a system, I suppose, that we just can’t figure out. But I’m bothered by not having a proper Mays card, too.
Another thing that bothers me is the No-Hitter and Perfect Game Milestone cards. These are cards representing ONE DAY, when a pitcher was sharp as can be. Why doesn’t every No-Hitter card have 125 H/9 and every Perfect Game Card have 125 H/9 and 125 BB/9?
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Willie for the past 2 years is crazy. If you said to anyone who knows anything about baseball that Willie was one of the top five all around players ever in mlb they would have a tough time arguing against that. Yet the last 2 years he hasn’t really had a dominant card. His set 2 card was solid but the clutch was so low it kind of killed the card.
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Mays was great but I’d rather have a yaz or Ted Williams.
I felt a rage imagining that. I do understand what you mean. I still have hope all things will come together either by boost or by cards. This is the first year with the new system so fingers crossed
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Mays is getting cheated in clutch. If you look at his clutch stats he is literally clutch in every situation possible. Holding him down in one aspect can hold down his entire card. Go into edit player and edit clutch up and down and see what happens.
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@fubar2k7_PSN said in Does SDS hate Willie Mays?!:
Mays is getting cheated in clutch. If you look at his clutch stats he is literally clutch in every situation possible. Holding him down in one aspect can hold down his entire card. Go into edit player and edit clutch up and down and see what happens.
Not only that but what metric actually measures clutch. If they were going to make it matter this year it definitely shouldn’t take a card down. Should have been if it’s lower than contact rating it doesn’t count but if it was higher then it boosts the contact. Give it to guys who had a reputation for coming up big like David Ortiz. I’ve read quite a few baseball books and I’ve never heard any baseball historian call Willie Mays a choke artist.
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@baseball229056_XBL said in Does SDS hate Willie Mays?!:
@fubar2k7_PSN said in Does SDS hate Willie Mays?!:
Mays is getting cheated in clutch. If you look at his clutch stats he is literally clutch in every situation possible. Holding him down in one aspect can hold down his entire card. Go into edit player and edit clutch up and down and see what happens.
Not only that but what metric actually measures clutch. If they were going to make it matter this year it definitely shouldn’t take a card down. Should have been if it’s lower than contact rating it doesn’t count but if it was higher then it boosts the contact. Give it to guys who had a reputation for coming up big like David Ortiz. I’ve read quite a few baseball books and I’ve never heard any baseball historian call Willie Mays a choke artist.
I tend to just use numbers on people before my time. On BRef they have his clutch stats. His career OPS is above .900 in every clutch category listed. I’d say that’s clutch since it covers his entire lifetime in baseball.
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