BR program unsellable too. Thanks streamers
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@RunningRascl_XBL said in BR program unsellable too. Thanks streamers:
While I don't love the idea of no sell rewards for online play, it baffles me why you would make the programs so much more difficult, especially as the ranked season now lasts half the time it did for the first program. 25 hours of ranked play for a single non-sale card??? And why remove the points for wins, as well. Pretty bizarre.
Not getting the point for a win in RS has baffled me as much as anything. There is just something about earning that point for a win that means more to me than any pxp mission or number of total bases. It especially has value when your opponent quits in the second inning.
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My thoughts for ranked with coop and the program was like ah bummer but also like ok majority of people can get the cards. I didn’t know BR was also non sellable which is so so so crappy. Sad day
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I’m shocked they did this mid year. This seems like a pretty massive adjustment to make for the casual gamer who just enjoyed grinding the program and earn some stubs. this latest move on BR and the most recent roster update is absolutely brutal.
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@RunningRascl_XBL said in BR program unsellable too. Thanks streamers:
While I don't love the idea of no sell rewards for online play, it baffles me why you would make the programs so much more difficult, especially as the ranked season now lasts half the time it did for the first program. 25 hours of ranked play for a single non-sale card??? And why remove the points for wins, as well. Pretty bizarre.
It's cut in half because there will be two parts to the season. Part 2, I was told, would have sellable rewards.
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@GradektheBard said in BR program unsellable too. Thanks streamers:
Designing a reward structure that only benefits less than 1% of your customers is a terrible strategy.
But hey, at least they won’t have to hear oh chev cry anymore.
Oh that’s his name. Yea that guy needs to go outside. I listened to him cry about it for an hour straight one day and was like why am I listening to this dude whine.
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@GoTitans3_XBL said in BR program unsellable too. Thanks streamers:
@GradektheBard said in BR program unsellable too. Thanks streamers:
Designing a reward structure that only benefits less than 1% of your customers is a terrible strategy.
But hey, at least they won’t have to hear oh chev cry anymore.
Oh that’s his name. Yea that guy needs to go outside. I listened to him cry about it for an hour straight one day and was like why am I listening to this dude whine.
I mean, life is hard when he gets the card immediately and sells it for 500k, it's just not fair that casual players can earn the card weeks later and sell it for 50k
These kids are freaking clowns, can't wait to see how angry he is when every game of a 12-0 BR run is a sweatfest when offline players aren't willing to drop 50k in runs that end in 3 or 4 games and just drop the game. Same with Ranked. -
@Dthomp_PSN said in BR program unsellable too. Thanks streamers:
@GoTitans3_XBL said in BR program unsellable too. Thanks streamers:
@GradektheBard said in BR program unsellable too. Thanks streamers:
Designing a reward structure that only benefits less than 1% of your customers is a terrible strategy.
But hey, at least they won’t have to hear oh chev cry anymore.
Oh that’s his name. Yea that guy needs to go outside. I listened to him cry about it for an hour straight one day and was like why am I listening to this dude whine.
I mean, life is hard when he gets the card immediately and sells it for 500k, it's just not fair that casual players can earn the card weeks later and sell it for 50k
These kids are freaking clowns, can't wait to see how angry he is when every game of a 12-0 BR run is a sweatfest when offline players aren't willing to drop 50k in runs that end in 3 or 4 games and just drop the game. Same with Ranked.Bro it’s worse than that. A BR game takes like half an hour tops. So 12-0 takes 6 hours. Now granted there’s a lot of skill involved. But they cry that their card should sell for a million so it’s worth it. But then someone says man if you grind through all of TA, all the xp path, all the RS program and the Kaiju program it takes like 50 hours and get you like 300k if you’re lucky and they respond that you just want something for nothing. These the type of dudes sds and sports gaming companies listen to all the way to the bottom of the barrel lol.
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I have to believe the removal of the 1 pt for every ranked win must be a mistake.
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I’ve been playing year round for the past few versions. In recent years I’ve been buying the $100 version to support SDS the independent company because all things considered they make a great product and don’t force you to spend money to be competitive. I have Gamepass so I could most definitely get it for free. However, with this recent change to rewards being no-sells I see the unfortunate direction it’s heading. My desire to play has disappeared suddenly and I’m not sure how long this feeling will last. I hope they reverse this decision and realize it goes against their “grind 99” prerogative. RIP to BR and RS as there is no incentive for me to play anymore.
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@TEXAS10PT_PSN said in BR program unsellable too. Thanks streamers:
Well that's enough for me. Finish this year and call it a day. Every year they have cut ways to make stubs. Shat on my favorite player two years running (Mays) and put Godzilla in the game. How much more stupid can it get. I'm old anyway and should be done playing video games.
Two things can be true at the same time. They find ways to make more $, of course, but they've also massively "democratized" DD so that casuals can get almost all the same cards by grinding.
Your last sentence might be it. At 49, I often feel the same way...
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@RunningRascl_XBL said in BR program unsellable too. Thanks streamers:
I have to believe the removal of the 1 pt for every ranked win must be a mistake.
Is this a thing??? If it is, then THAT'S the chance people should be up in arms about. WTF, SDS...really...
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It's BS for SDS to cater to the 1% that go 12-0 and make WS to have sellable cards. It just makes it harder to collect everything at a reasonable price. I had to spend about a 650k stubs to finish Set 1 and it looks like I won't finish Set 2. I thought I was set up nicely for it too.
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@GradektheBard said in BR program unsellable too. Thanks streamers:
Designing a reward structure that only benefits less than 1% of your customers is a terrible strategy.
But hey, at least they won’t have to hear oh chev cry anymore.
I agree with you and I am a WS player. Never gone 12-0. If you just play the game and are not an elite (12-0 player), you simply can't make enough stubs to afford to buy the Tatis' or Mantle's.
I am a good player, not great or elite, and play a TON and I haven't completed LS collections or have enough stubs to get either of those players. Part of why I haven't got LS done is I can't hit with RH hitters anyway so McGwire is a complete waste.
Also something people don't think about is with the BR flawless retaining their ridiculous value more, the more goons you will have in BR making it even more difficult for the casual player to finish the program or afford any of the other ones.
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@SuntLacrimae50_MLBTS said in BR program unsellable too. Thanks streamers:
I don't know. The game throws cards and stubs at you like crazy. Making WS and BR PROGRAM rewards no-sell isn't a huge deal to me. You used to only be able to get them by achieving WS or 12 wins...then you could get one just by working the program...now you can get one but can't sell it. Fine by me. There needs to be a demarcation between those who earn it through skill (I never will) and those who just grind innings/missions. The game monetized DD for sure, but this isn't heavy-handed. C'mon man.
Disagree. I play a ton and can't afford Mantle right now.
There is a line between those who earn it through skill and those who grind. The skill players can get there through innings and skill, grinders only get it through grinding. Better players can get 2 rewards. It is what I do in RS. I get one card making WS and one through program. BR I can only get one through the program as I have never been flawless.
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How do streamers benefit from this?
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@jaychvz_XBL said in BR program unsellable too. Thanks streamers:
How do streamers benefit from this?
I don’t really know. I heard a few complaining about it a while now. One steamer I mean streamer had a whole bit about it. He complained about the rewards about mlb stadiums being terrible and play in custom stadiums. It just goes on and on with the complaining. Some of these streamers are pretty cool and don’t like the way things are going so I don’t think they all fall in th this.
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If fewer sellable rewards cards are in circulation, guys who can go 12-0 multiple times can sell them for massively huge profits. Prices stay higher. 12-0 goons farm BR for stubs. They get the flawless reward plus one high diamond.
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@Bob_Loblaw1984 said in BR program unsellable too. Thanks streamers:
I don’t like the move, but let’s not act like it’s some conspiracy against “casuals.”
Their motivation is to make money by selling stubs. All these changes have been geared toward that. Every company’s goal to make money. It’s not evil. It’s not personal. It’s capitalism.
Yep. More specifically they want to increase Stub sales more as the game cycle moves forward...and before they have to compete for players (and revenue) with new games/team modes from EA and 2K in the fall.
This game likely had few issues with selling Stubs when the game comes out...the first 4 to 6 weeks were likely always good for bringing in revenue...it's after that when it gets iffy.
By breaking it up like they did...they are hoping the players ADDICTED to getting EVERY card will eventually fork over real money to feed their addiction. Especially after they've already started collecting.
There is something about "uncompleted tasks" psychologically that many people struggle with. SDS wants to use that psychology against them in order to make more money.
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I can definitely see both sides of this argument. But I'm completely ok with them doing this.
A couple years ago I never would've been able to use the WS or BR cards because I'm not good enough to make WS or go 12-0. And I wouldn't be able to buy them because I'd never have enough stubs. So I'm cool with being able to get 1 even I can't sell it. And if I'm not interested in any of the rewards I just won't play.
The amount of people who just seem to play video games for the rewards blows my mind. If you're doing it that way you're doing it wrong.
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I'm actually LESS likely to buy stubs this way. I know I won't get every card, but I aim to collect all the Oakland A's. If they put one in BR and it's too difficult I'd consider buying stubs to purchase it. Now there's no reason to if/when that happens.
