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  • GoTitans3_XBLG Offline
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    @SuntLacrimae50_MLBTS said in Pack luck...again:

    The number of people who play, pull diamonds, and never post on this forum...something to think about. Pulling a 90+ when those odds are probably more like 1:500...something to think about.

    Most people "know" that 1:50 refers to every individual pack, but they post based on feelings and perceptions. Not this OP, but many others. It's not a scam. Everything's pretty much up front. Buying packs is never a good idea. Pulling a diamond is gravy.

    You said not OP but immediately responded to OP with that’s not how it works.

    Also it is 100% a scam. When you have a 0% chance to come out ahead it is a scam. If you want to call it gambling of some sort let’s make a new word for it. How about scrambling. So they 100% run a scam in the pack store with stubs. They get a pass because they allow you to buy the currency with money but as far as their packs they are no better than EA or 2K. Could you imagine giving $100 for two 50 bundles and pulling 50k if you are lucky. And make no mistake it is in SDS’ best interest to [censored] on their customers as much as possible to push IAPs. Pretty much every industry with that kind of business is heavily regulated but somehow these video game companies get away with it. Probably because they are all located in California.

    Now again it is what it is. I don’t care either way. It’s a game, I’m not going for anything and I’m far more likely to turn it off and not touch it again than give them a dollar so they can do whatever they want for all I care. They can explain why their game is dead in a month.

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    @jeffstified_XBL said in Pack luck...again:

    I was going to post this in the recent pack luck thread, but that one seems to have gone off the rails. So, here's a new one (probably some result, tho).

    Anyway, I got the data from open pack history of my account page. I've opened 330 The Show packs (none bought) and have pulled 12 diamond items, 5 of which were players (Hader, Vlad, Helsley, Tucker, and Kershaw). All diamonds from different packs.

    3.6% of packs have had diamond items. But, I think the odds are just for players, not sure. In that case, 1.5% of packs have contained a diamond player. That's under the 2% stated odds, but it's a small sample size. I guess I've been a little unlucky.

    For biah packs, I've opened 57, 11 had diamonds, 1 of those had 2 diamonds. So, 19.3% packs contained at least 1 diamond. I'm not sure what the odds are for these packs, but that's a lot better than The Show packs.

    Anyway, I wish more people would get the actual data. If we had more data, I'm sure we'd see rates in line with stated odds.

    You pulled 11 diamonds in 57 ballin packs?? I’ve opened 71 and pulled 2 low end diamonds

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    @GoTitans3_XBL said in Pack luck...again:

    @SuntLacrimae50_MLBTS said in Pack luck...again:

    The number of people who play, pull diamonds, and never post on this forum...something to think about. Pulling a 90+ when those odds are probably more like 1:500...something to think about.

    Most people "know" that 1:50 refers to every individual pack, but they post based on feelings and perceptions. Not this OP, but many others. It's not a scam. Everything's pretty much up front. Buying packs is never a good idea. Pulling a diamond is gravy.

    You said not OP but immediately responded to OP with that’s not how it works.

    Also it is 100% a scam. When you have a 0% chance to come out ahead it is a scam. If you want to call it gambling of some sort let’s make a new word for it. How about scrambling. So they 100% run a scam in the pack store with stubs. They get a pass because they allow you to buy the currency with money but as far as their packs they are no better than EA or 2K. Could you imagine giving $100 for two 50 bundles and pulling 50k if you are lucky. And make no mistake it is in SDS’ best interest to [censored] on their customers as much as possible to push IAPs. Pretty much every industry with that kind of business is heavily regulated but somehow these video game companies get away with it. Probably because they are all located in California.

    Now again it is what it is. I don’t care either way. It’s a game, I’m not going for anything and I’m far more likely to turn it off and not touch it again than give them a dollar so they can do whatever they want for all I care. They can explain why their game is dead in a month.

    First of all, it is, quite literally, NOT a scam if they post the odds right up front. Literally. Not.

    Second of all, I bought a 50 pack and pulled Tatis out of a Chase pack, so I came out way ahead. Like 170K stubs ahead.

    It's a game of chance and it's not mandatory or obligatory. Early in the year when you're building out the LS, it's much more of a good deal. If you have that done, it's NEVER a good deal. And unless you're a complete idiot or whiny and immature, you realize that the game is rigged against you from the beginning -- just like ALL games of chance are. In all of them it's a near certainty that you NEVER will "come out ahead." Is anybody actually confused about this? That's why when you SEE a diamond pop up, you get excited -- because you got one AGAINST THE ODDS.

    Jesus, it's not difficult to understand. It's not a scam. Just don't give them money and open up what you get for free. Or buy packs only with house money.

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    @Scar_USMC77_PSN said in Pack luck...again:

    @jeffstified_XBL said in Pack luck...again:

    I was going to post this in the recent pack luck thread, but that one seems to have gone off the rails. So, here's a new one (probably some result, tho).

    Anyway, I got the data from open pack history of my account page. I've opened 330 The Show packs (none bought) and have pulled 12 diamond items, 5 of which were players (Hader, Vlad, Helsley, Tucker, and Kershaw). All diamonds from different packs.

    3.6% of packs have had diamond items. But, I think the odds are just for players, not sure. In that case, 1.5% of packs have contained a diamond player. That's under the 2% stated odds, but it's a small sample size. I guess I've been a little unlucky.

    For biah packs, I've opened 57, 11 had diamonds, 1 of those had 2 diamonds. So, 19.3% packs contained at least 1 diamond. I'm not sure what the odds are for these packs, but that's a lot better than The Show packs.

    Anyway, I wish more people would get the actual data. If we had more data, I'm sure we'd see rates in line with stated odds.

    You pulled 11 diamonds in 57 ballin packs?? I’ve opened 71 and pulled 2 low end diamonds

    The 'data' OP refers to, such as it is or would be, is pretty meaningless when everyone's experience of the odds in play is different. There is no trend to track. You're either opening a good pack or a bad one, and then the same again, and the same again. Tallying up the numbers to support the odds in real time doesn't mean anything unless your direct experience is in line with those odds (or not). Even if someone's pack luck lines up with the odds over a certain period of time, it's no predictor of future results.

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    I've pulled 99 Tatis twice, LS Trout twice, Ohtani three times.

    Every pack has the same odds. If you open 1 or 1 billion, each pack has a 1/50 chance.

    My free pack from daily log ins two days ago had a Judge in it.

    Just because you've never hit the jackpot on a slot machine does not mean the next guy won't. It's 100 percent timing, nothing else.

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    @lucas8181_PSN said in Pack luck...again:

    I've pulled 99 Tatis twice, LS Trout twice, Ohtani three times.

    Every pack has the same odds. If you open 1 or 1 billion, each pack has a 1/50 chance.

    My free pack from daily log ins two days ago had a Judge in it.

    Just because you've never hit the jackpot on a slot machine does not mean the next guy won't. It's 100 percent timing, nothing else.

    Must be nice. This is the 3rd year in a row for me not being able to pull any of the better diamonds. I only have luck it seems after the allstar break and that isn't even anything to write home about

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    @ArGenTin32_XBL said in Pack luck...again:

    @lucas8181_PSN said in Pack luck...again:

    I've pulled 99 Tatis twice, LS Trout twice, Ohtani three times.

    Every pack has the same odds. If you open 1 or 1 billion, each pack has a 1/50 chance.

    My free pack from daily log ins two days ago had a Judge in it.

    Just because you've never hit the jackpot on a slot machine does not mean the next guy won't. It's 100 percent timing, nothing else.

    Must be nice. This is the 3rd year in a row for me not being able to pull any of the better diamonds. I only have luck it seems after the allstar break and that isn't even anything to write home about

    I feel like it hardly matters this year though. So many great cards for free.

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  • nonessential____PSNN Offline
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    My standard pack luck is pretty bad and sometimes wonder if its worth grinding for. I did get the 99 rare rounds for all the around the world packs. I pulled 2 chase packs and were otani and tatis. I just spent 20k on a gold from a choice pack. I guess it all evens out.

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  • coloneloneder_XBLC Offline
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    My pack luck has been terrible. When I finally pulled a diamond Trea Turner it literally disappeared from my inventory. I thought i dreamt getting it until I downloaded the app and looked at my pack history. I got it. It straight up disappeared! Never sold it either. It is what it is.

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    Do chase packs usually have live series gold players? I’ve opened 6 this year and just got a chase pack 2 also live gold player. Figured there would be a diamond

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