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    I got a chance to play several hours of RS and also events this weekend. Almost every opponent I played could split a hair on a dogs backside with pinpoint pitching. The fact that you never get anything down the middle of the plate is boring and unrealistic. Chapman who is known for his lack of control lives on the black. Again this is unrealistic and hopefully gets addressed in a future update.

    Does anyone else feel as though pitching is too easy for some? Or is there an element of the game I am missing which make my opponents pitching OP? Thanks!

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    @aam34_psn said in PITCHING IS TOO EASY (too many pitchers pitches):

    I got a chance to play several hours of RS and also events this weekend. Almost every opponent I played could split a hair on a dogs backside with pinpoint pitching. The fact that you never get anything down the middle of the plate is boring and unrealistic. Chapman who is known for his lack of control lives on the black. Again this is unrealistic and hopefully gets addressed in a future update.

    Does anyone else feel as though pitching is too easy for some? Or is there an element of the game I am missing which make my opponents pitching OP? Thanks!

    Very boring and very unrealistic! They need to do a major adjustment to PAR to prevent the sinkers and off speeds being used so much in unrealistic parts of the zone.

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    Ok, thanks for validating. I would wait for something down the middle and get my life dotted away by every opponent I played. Wasn't fun.

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    I think the concept of the dynamic par for pitches like the sinker high in the zone is a great idea, just hasn't been very effective as implemented. If they could make that work better it would help a lot. For me I actually think they need to shrink the PAR size for a majority of pitches while at the same time increasing the difficulty of getting a perfect pitch.

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    I hear that about PPP, man anyone who masters it perfectly every time. I give them credit. The drawing part is easy, it's that timed release that messes me up. And when I don't hit that time perfectly I get rocked. Forget PAR, its all over the place. I walk more guys now because I can't always time that release.

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    @nflman2033_mlbts said in PITCHING IS TOO EASY (too many pitchers pitches):

    I hear that about PPP, man anyone who masters it perfectly every time. I give them credit. The drawing part is easy, it's that timed release that messes me up. And when I don't hit that time perfectly I get rocked. Forget PAR, its all over the place. I walk more guys now because I can't always time that release.

    I would slam the stick down and get a yellow or red bar every time but if you move it down slow it works a lot better.

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    sinkers have a complete different timing window, they didnt fix high sinkers at all, kind of my only complaint.

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    @kovz88_psn said in PITCHING IS TOO EASY (too many pitchers pitches):

    I think the concept of the dynamic par for pitches like the sinker high in the zone is a great idea, just hasn't been very effective as implemented. If they could make that work better it would help a lot. For me I actually think they need to shrink the PAR size for a majority of pitches while at the same time increasing the difficulty of getting a perfect pitch.

    Larger PAR on sinkers doesn't work at all. I still get dotted to death. They really need to take a hard look at gameplay in general. Also ranked seasons needs an overhaul as its been the same for many years.

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    @guccigangchuck said in PITCHING IS TOO EASY (too many pitchers pitches):

    sinkers have a complete different timing window, they didnt fix high sinkers at all, kind of my only complaint.

    That and no meatballs or mistake pitches. If you miss or mess up with PPP its just a ball. If you are waiting for something to hit you will be waiting all day

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    @kovz88_psn said in PITCHING IS TOO EASY (too many pitchers pitches):

    I think the concept of the dynamic par for pitches like the sinker high in the zone is a great idea, just hasn't been very effective as implemented. If they could make that work better it would help a lot. For me I actually think they need to shrink the PAR size for a majority of pitches while at the same time increasing the difficulty of getting a perfect pitch.

    Shrinking par is what makes it easier to pinpoint the pitches. PAR needs to be bigger in the parts of the zone where pitches are not normally thrown. A Sinker up in the zone should never sink it should come in flat and slower. Same goes for any breaking ball up in the zone.

    I could see a slider up n away having some late movement if placed right, but thier is a reason they call them hangers. I agree the PAR concept is great, but i think pitches need adjuststing along with each of the 9 squares, not the pitching modes themselves.

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    @aam34_psn said in PITCHING IS TOO EASY (too many pitchers pitches):

    @guccigangchuck said in PITCHING IS TOO EASY (too many pitchers pitches):

    sinkers have a complete different timing window, they didnt fix high sinkers at all, kind of my only complaint.

    That and no meatballs or mistake pitches. If you miss or mess up with PPP its just a ball. If you are waiting for something to hit you will be waiting all day

    we had that in 20 with analog, but all the top players complained. I actually dont mind the fact that if you mess up on a input a pitch hangs, i'm a very patient hitter, but get bored taking balls that sometimes i'll just start swinging

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    I dislike using the analog for pitching so I have stayed away from PPP. I have tried it but I always come back to meter. If you make a slight mistake with meter it seems to hang more often than not. Even when it is perfect it still hangs sometimes.

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    @aam34_psn said in PITCHING IS TOO EASY (too many pitchers pitches):

    I got a chance to play several hours of RS and also events this weekend. Almost every opponent I played could split a hair on a dogs backside with pinpoint pitching. The fact that you never get anything down the middle of the plate is boring and unrealistic. Chapman who is known for his lack of control lives on the black. Again this is unrealistic and hopefully gets addressed in a future update.

    Does anyone else feel as though pitching is too easy for some? Or is there an element of the game I am missing which make my opponents pitching OP? Thanks!

    Pitching with PPP has become much more difficult this year than last. A lot of people are complaining there are too many meatball pitches for barely missing your timing with PPP. I can attest to that because I'm pretty good with PPP. Another reason why it's not as easy this year is because people have a hard time throwing pitches in the dirt on 0-2/1-2 counts. They tend to hang around the bottom of the zone this year.

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    @hoffsdrawlar_psn said in PITCHING IS TOO EASY (too many pitchers pitches):

    I dislike using the analog for pitching so I have stayed away from PPP. I have tried it but I always come back to meter. If you make a slight mistake with meter it seems to hang more often than not. Even when it is perfect it still hangs sometimes.

    I use meter w/ classic and it is an art as well. Alot of factors go into pitching good with meter .Which is why i think the PAR on pitches need adjusting and movement on the 9 squares need adjusting. The squares are close, but i think if PAR on pitches were adjusted the movement from the squares would likely fall into place.

    Which in turn gives the player more confidence to feel like they could throw anywhere in the zone with right pitch type of course.

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    @aam34_psn said in PITCHING IS TOO EASY (too many pitchers pitches):

    @nflman2033_mlbts said in PITCHING IS TOO EASY (too many pitchers pitches):

    I hear that about PPP, man anyone who masters it perfectly every time. I give them credit. The drawing part is easy, it's that timed release that messes me up. And when I don't hit that time perfectly I get rocked. Forget PAR, its all over the place. I walk more guys now because I can't always time that release.

    I would slam the stick down and get a yellow or red bar every time but if you move it down slow it works a lot better.

    I can try that, but it just seems like I don't have a good grasp of when to start bringing the stick down.

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    @matt_42187_psn said in PITCHING IS TOO EASY (too many pitchers pitches):

    @aam34_psn said in PITCHING IS TOO EASY (too many pitchers pitches):

    I got a chance to play several hours of RS and also events this weekend. Almost every opponent I played could split a hair on a dogs backside with pinpoint pitching. The fact that you never get anything down the middle of the plate is boring and unrealistic. Chapman who is known for his lack of control lives on the black. Again this is unrealistic and hopefully gets addressed in a future update.

    Does anyone else feel as though pitching is too easy for some? Or is there an element of the game I am missing which make my opponents pitching OP? Thanks!

    Pitching with PPP has become much more difficult this year than last. A lot of people are complaining there are too many meatball pitches for barely missing your timing with PPP. I can attest to that because I'm pretty good with PPP. Another reason why it's not as easy this year is because people have a hard time throwing pitches in the dirt on 0-2/1-2 counts. They tend to hang around the bottom of the zone this year.

    Yes, this is my experience, I leave way too much hanging compared to other years. If people are painting corners perfectly as the OP said than they have masters PPP, more power to them.

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    @grizzbear55_psn said in PITCHING IS TOO EASY (too many pitchers pitches):

    @kovz88_psn said in PITCHING IS TOO EASY (too many pitchers pitches):

    I think the concept of the dynamic par for pitches like the sinker high in the zone is a great idea, just hasn't been very effective as implemented. If they could make that work better it would help a lot. For me I actually think they need to shrink the PAR size for a majority of pitches while at the same time increasing the difficulty of getting a perfect pitch.

    Shrinking par is what makes it easier to pinpoint the pitches. PAR needs to be bigger in the parts of the zone where pitches are not normally thrown. A Sinker up in the zone should never sink it should come in flat and slower. Same goes for any breaking ball up in the zone.

    I could see a slider up n away having some late movement if placed right, but their is a reason they call them hangers. I agree the PAR concept is great, but i think pitches need adjuststing along with each of the 9 squares, not the pitching modes themselves.

    Agreed high sinkers should turn into 4seam fb. Its just not realistic.

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  • aam34_PSNA Offline
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    @nflman2033_mlbts said in PITCHING IS TOO EASY (too many pitchers pitches):

    @matt_42187_psn said in PITCHING IS TOO EASY (too many pitchers pitches):

    @aam34_psn said in PITCHING IS TOO EASY (too many pitchers pitches):

    I got a chance to play several hours of RS and also events this weekend. Almost every opponent I played could split a hair on a dogs backside with pinpoint pitching. The fact that you never get anything down the middle of the plate is boring and unrealistic. Chapman who is known for his lack of control lives on the black. Again this is unrealistic and hopefully gets addressed in a future update.

    Does anyone else feel as though pitching is too easy for some? Or is there an element of the game I am missing which make my opponents pitching OP? Thanks!

    Pitching with PPP has become much more difficult this year than last. A lot of people are complaining there are too many meatball pitches for barely missing your timing with PPP. I can attest to that because I'm pretty good with PPP. Another reason why it's not as easy this year is because people have a hard time throwing pitches in the dirt on 0-2/1-2 counts. They tend to hang around the bottom of the zone this year.

    Yes, this is my experience, I leave way too much hanging compared to other years. If people are painting corners perfectly as the OP said than they have masters PPP, more power to them.

    I haven't played anyone who isn't a PPP master it seems like. Maybe I haven't played enough yet. LOL

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    @aam34_psn said in PITCHING IS TOO EASY (too many pitchers pitches):

    @nflman2033_mlbts said in PITCHING IS TOO EASY (too many pitchers pitches):

    @matt_42187_psn said in PITCHING IS TOO EASY (too many pitchers pitches):

    @aam34_psn said in PITCHING IS TOO EASY (too many pitchers pitches):

    I got a chance to play several hours of RS and also events this weekend. Almost every opponent I played could split a hair on a dogs backside with pinpoint pitching. The fact that you never get anything down the middle of the plate is boring and unrealistic. Chapman who is known for his lack of control lives on the black. Again this is unrealistic and hopefully gets addressed in a future update.

    Does anyone else feel as though pitching is too easy for some? Or is there an element of the game I am missing which make my opponents pitching OP? Thanks!

    Pitching with PPP has become much more difficult this year than last. A lot of people are complaining there are too many meatball pitches for barely missing your timing with PPP. I can attest to that because I'm pretty good with PPP. Another reason why it's not as easy this year is because people have a hard time throwing pitches in the dirt on 0-2/1-2 counts. They tend to hang around the bottom of the zone this year.

    Yes, this is my experience, I leave way too much hanging compared to other years. If people are painting corners perfectly as the OP said than they have masters PPP, more power to them.

    I haven't played anyone who isn't a PPP master it seems like. Maybe I haven't played enough yet. LOL

    More than likely. These people in RS, especially 700+ are great players and spend time mastering the game. SDS heard all the complaints last year and made it harder and they will still master it.

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    @guccigangchuck said in PITCHING IS TOO EASY (too many pitchers pitches):

    @aam34_psn said in PITCHING IS TOO EASY (too many pitchers pitches):

    @guccigangchuck said in PITCHING IS TOO EASY (too many pitchers pitches):

    sinkers have a complete different timing window, they didnt fix high sinkers at all, kind of my only complaint.

    That and no meatballs or mistake pitches. If you miss or mess up with PPP its just a ball. If you are waiting for something to hit you will be waiting all day

    we had that in 20 with analog, but all the top players complained. I actually dont mind the fact that if you mess up on a input a pitch hangs, i'm a very patient hitter, but get bored taking balls that sometimes i'll just start swinging

    This is precisely my argument. Its so boring being a patient hitter in 22.

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