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@schwizzle_nizzle said in Account Banned:
@theblindrhino said in Account Banned:
@schwizzle_nizzle said in Account Banned:
I knew this would happen....
Was it the buzzer or the banging?
I'm a 90's Houston baseball fan, grew up there and moved away in 2001. I don't like the new team. F them.
Nice. I wonder if the Killer B's are upset that it never occurred to them to cheat or tank.
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@theblindrhino said in Account Banned:
@schwizzle_nizzle said in Account Banned:
@theblindrhino said in Account Banned:
@schwizzle_nizzle said in Account Banned:
I knew this would happen....
Was it the buzzer or the banging?
I'm a 90's Houston baseball fan, grew up there and moved away in 2001. I don't like the new team. F them.
Nice. I wonder if the Killer B's are upset that it never occurred to them to cheat or tank.
And who's your team?
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@theblindrhino said in Account Banned:
@schwizzle_nizzle said in Account Banned:
@theblindrhino said in Account Banned:
@schwizzle_nizzle said in Account Banned:
I knew this would happen....
Was it the buzzer or the banging?
I'm a 90's Houston baseball fan, grew up there and moved away in 2001. I don't like the new team. F them.
Nice. I wonder if the Killer B's are upset that it never occurred to them to cheat or tank.
I bet Bagwell and Biggio weren't too happy. But, weren't many other teams cheating too? Oh well, everyone cheats one way or the other, but they really screwed the pooch.
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@go4stros25_psn said in Account Banned:
@theblindrhino said in Account Banned:
@schwizzle_nizzle said in Account Banned:
@theblindrhino said in Account Banned:
@schwizzle_nizzle said in Account Banned:
I knew this would happen....
Was it the buzzer or the banging?
I'm a 90's Houston baseball fan, grew up there and moved away in 2001. I don't like the new team. F them.
Nice. I wonder if the Killer B's are upset that it never occurred to them to cheat or tank.
And who's your team?
Whoever is playing the Astros.
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@theblindrhino said in Account Banned:
@go4stros25_psn said in Account Banned:
@theblindrhino said in Account Banned:
@schwizzle_nizzle said in Account Banned:
@theblindrhino said in Account Banned:
@schwizzle_nizzle said in Account Banned:
I knew this would happen....
Was it the buzzer or the banging?
I'm a 90's Houston baseball fan, grew up there and moved away in 2001. I don't like the new team. F them.
Nice. I wonder if the Killer B's are upset that it never occurred to them to cheat or tank.
And who's your team?
Whoever is playing the Astros.
Sure kid. You keep reaching for the lowest hanging fruit.
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@go4stros25_psn said in Account Banned:
@theblindrhino said in Account Banned:
@go4stros25_psn said in Account Banned:
@theblindrhino said in Account Banned:
@schwizzle_nizzle said in Account Banned:
@theblindrhino said in Account Banned:
@schwizzle_nizzle said in Account Banned:
I knew this would happen....
Was it the buzzer or the banging?
I'm a 90's Houston baseball fan, grew up there and moved away in 2001. I don't like the new team. F them.
Nice. I wonder if the Killer B's are upset that it never occurred to them to cheat or tank.
And who's your team?
Whoever is playing the Astros.
Sure kid. You keep reaching for the lowest hanging fruit.
I'm a Dodger fan. You had to guess it was either that or Yankees...or the A's.
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@theblindrhino said in Account Banned:
@go4stros25_psn said in Account Banned:
@theblindrhino said in Account Banned:
@go4stros25_psn said in Account Banned:
@theblindrhino said in Account Banned:
@schwizzle_nizzle said in Account Banned:
@theblindrhino said in Account Banned:
@schwizzle_nizzle said in Account Banned:
I knew this would happen....
Was it the buzzer or the banging?
I'm a 90's Houston baseball fan, grew up there and moved away in 2001. I don't like the new team. F them.
Nice. I wonder if the Killer B's are upset that it never occurred to them to cheat or tank.
And who's your team?
Whoever is playing the Astros.
Sure kid. You keep reaching for the lowest hanging fruit.
I'm a Dodger fan. You had to guess it was either that or Yankees...or the A's.
Well it makes sense as to why you are so worked up about it. I would be too I suppose.
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I have screen shots from the app of the pack I pulled Trout in and my completed orders for the day it happened. I apologize for my lack of tech savvyness... but I'm not sure how to post them here.
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@justinlarson_psn said in Account Banned:
I have screen shots from the app of the pack I pulled Trout in and my completed orders for the day it happened. I apologize for my lack of tech savvyness... but I'm not sure how to post them here.
You're going to want to file a ticket woth sds. Click the question mark in the top right corner bud.
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Ticket was filed 2 days ago... screen shots sent today.
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@texas10pt_psn said in Account Banned:
@hoboadam_psn said in Account Banned:
I've been pretty silent on this but I'll give some opinions now. As a person whose job it has been for over 25 years to manage, store code for and debug data, here's my take...
SDS did the right thing by banning innocents inadvertantly. Every minute these stubs and activity is out there, it becomes harder to unravel and causes more harm to the market. This year, the market has been more stable than ever. People haven't been making millions flipping. That says it all.
SDS has the data to back up ANY claim of innocence. If you are in fact innocent, send in your ticket. Be polite. Cite some dates and transactions. It will only help expedite.
Like many other "veterans" of this community, it's not "our" population affected by this. Why? We know better man. Simple, and factual statement. We've seen shady stuff over the years and know that you either buy stubs via the appropriate parties, or earn them through the game.
Streamers advertising 3rd party stub sellers and people thinking those sales are legit, I don't have sympathy for. Those same streamers are likely getting kick back from those 3rd party sellers.
I'm sure there are innocent people that have been banned. I get it. Innocent before proven guilty works with laws, but not private companies in an online virtual environment that you agree to use under those terms, everytime you log in.
I'm not very IT savvy. How in the world do these 3rd party stub sellers get their stubs into the game? Is it some sort of hack to the system that they do?
I won't speculate here on TSN, but... To make money, you need to have it. You could probably start out with $3000 in stubs across a few accounts and then have that equate to $5000 worth after 1-2 days of cornering cards and equipment. Nevermind glitches on stuff like open source code for the switch.
Streamers get paid for views clicks, subs, and donations. They'll also get paid by the advertising of the 3rd party sites. 3rd party sites generally have people doing this for multiple games across multiple platforms.
Completely viable for this situation. I hope banning is rampant by SDS. Amazon does this same mass banning for New World and Lost Ark. When something is in house, it's easier to just ban and fix, rather than fix and ban.
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@theblindrhino said in Account Banned:
@go4stros25_psn said in Account Banned:
@theblindrhino said in Account Banned:
@go4stros25_psn said in Account Banned:
@theblindrhino said in Account Banned:
@cdnmoneymaker93_xbl said in Account Banned:
@theblindrhino said in Account Banned:
@cdnmoneymaker93_xbl said in Account Banned:
SDS stores and see what each account has and does. If you pulled Trout from at pack at the same time the market was all over the place and you right away put in a sell order you would most likely not get banned as SDS can see the time stamp of the events. This would even be the same if you had Trout from a pack in your lineup for sometime and reacted to the market to see again not likely to get banned. Now if you bout 2 or 3 Trout at the 330k mark then 20 mins later all of a sudden his value spikes and you seel them right back well that would look a little suspicious do you think. Just something to chew on and let's be honestly anyone who got banned are they actually going to tell you the truth
Right before this all started on Monday I was working out what it would take to finish off the gatekeepers. I was about 150k away and I had more than enough sell orders (diamond equipment) to finish. So I put happened to put in buy orders of 200k on Trout with the expectation that they weren't going to go through as there were probably 40 orders ahead ranging up to 320k. After listing a few more sells I hit the "my orders" button and noticed that two of my orders were missing. I locked one Trout in and listed the other for sale at 388k which was the lowest bid at the moment. I realized right away what was happening so I stopped working the market and put in buy orders on my remaining gatekeepers and finished the collection.
So my question is did you get banned or did you avoid the ban hammer?
Not banned.
Probably should be tho. Not only were you buying and selling during this fiasco to make a huge profit but also to finish off the rest of the gatekeepers. You said it yourself, once you realized what was happening you started putting in lowball orders on the rest of the gatekeepers. The rest of us will have to grind/buy that. You deserve a ban more than a guy who just sold his one Trout. That's my opinion, I don't care what your retort is.
I never said low ball offers. In fact what I paid for the five I needed Ohtani, Scherzer, Guerror, Acuna, and deGrom was 673,626. Right now the same cards tally 672,675.
Kinda funny to be lectured by an Astros fan on what is cheating tbh.
Well you didn't say that now did you. You just said once you noticed what was going on you put in orders. That kinda makes it seem like you were taking advantage of the situation does it not? I sppplogize for interpreting it the way you made it sound.
And really? Gotta let the astros stuff go man.
And the Astros cheating is never going to go away. They are an embarrassment to true fans. Imaging tanking for a decade to get #1 draft picks and still have to cheat to win.
Imagine spending over 200 million and not making the WS.
Imagine winning a world series after playing 162 games like most of the last few decades.
Hating on the fans for the actions of a few bad actors is weak. Some people have been fans since well before dad forgot to pull out at your house.
The rhetoric from a minority of LA fans is old, tired, but expected.
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@hoboadam_psn said in Account Banned:
I've been pretty silent on this but I'll give some opinions now. As a person whose job it has been for over 25 years to manage, store code for and debug data, here's my take...
SDS did the right thing by banning innocents inadvertantly. Every minute these stubs and activity is out there, it becomes harder to unravel and causes more harm to the market. This year, the market has been more stable than ever. People haven't been making millions flipping. That says it all.
SDS has the data to back up ANY claim of innocence. If you are in fact innocent, send in your ticket. Be polite. Cite some dates and transactions. It will only help expedite.
Like many other "veterans" of this community, it's not "our" population affected by this. Why? We know better man. Simple, and factual statement. We've seen shady stuff over the years and know that you either buy stubs via the appropriate parties, or earn them through the game.
Streamers advertising 3rd party stub sellers and people thinking those sales are legit, I don't have sympathy for. Those same streamers are likely getting kick back from those 3rd party sellers.
I'm sure there are innocent people that have been banned. I get it. Innocent before proven guilty works with laws, but not private companies in an online virtual environment that you agree to use under those terms, everytime you log in.
Terrific. I work in IT as well. You are clueless when it comes to how competent SDS/EA/insert big company is at investigating these things. I was banned by EA and it took multiple weeks for those idiots to resolve the issue. Giving people a 24 hour ban would be fine, but EVERYONE that got that ban is still banned for a full year now.
Let's be honest here. The MLB community is a joke size wise compared to the other big sports games. Nobody cares about the "grizzled vets" who have no sympathy for anything.
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@cryptopowell90_psn said in Account Banned:
@hoboadam_psn said in Account Banned:
I've been pretty silent on this but I'll give some opinions now. As a person whose job it has been for over 25 years to manage, store code for and debug data, here's my take...
SDS did the right thing by banning innocents inadvertantly. Every minute these stubs and activity is out there, it becomes harder to unravel and causes more harm to the market. This year, the market has been more stable than ever. People haven't been making millions flipping. That says it all.
SDS has the data to back up ANY claim of innocence. If you are in fact innocent, send in your ticket. Be polite. Cite some dates and transactions. It will only help expedite.
Like many other "veterans" of this community, it's not "our" population affected by this. Why? We know better man. Simple, and factual statement. We've seen shady stuff over the years and know that you either buy stubs via the appropriate parties, or earn them through the game.
Streamers advertising 3rd party stub sellers and people thinking those sales are legit, I don't have sympathy for. Those same streamers are likely getting kick back from those 3rd party sellers.
I'm sure there are innocent people that have been banned. I get it. Innocent before proven guilty works with laws, but not private companies in an online virtual environment that you agree to use under those terms, everytime you log in.
Terrific. I work in IT as well. You are clueless when it comes to how competent SDS/EA/insert big company is at investigating these things. I was banned by EA and it took multiple weeks for those idiots to resolve the issue. Giving people a 24 hour ban would be fine, but EVERYONE that got that ban is still banned for a full year now.
Let's be honest here. The MLB community is a joke size wise compared to the other big sports games. Nobody cares about the "grizzled vets" who have no sympathy for anything.
LOL wut?
Are you thinking that SDS doesn't have metadata on every market transaction performed since it launched this year?
Data is being sent and written to DB2 storage tables everytime you buy and sell cards, whenever you complete a game and/or are granted XP in any form.
I'm not going to get into a keyboard battle with a stranger over my general industry knowledge and how data interacts with a console, web, phone, computer etc interface. I managed data for over 15 years in financial services and have helped launch products for Strat-o-matic. Coupled with testing I've done for legacy Sony Online Entertainment products (predecessor to SDS) I kinda know how stuff works.
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@cryptopowell90_psn said in Account Banned:
@hoboadam_psn said in Account Banned:
I've been pretty silent on this but I'll give some opinions now. As a person whose job it has been for over 25 years to manage, store code for and debug data, here's my take...
SDS did the right thing by banning innocents inadvertantly. Every minute these stubs and activity is out there, it becomes harder to unravel and causes more harm to the market. This year, the market has been more stable than ever. People haven't been making millions flipping. That says it all.
SDS has the data to back up ANY claim of innocence. If you are in fact innocent, send in your ticket. Be polite. Cite some dates and transactions. It will only help expedite.
Like many other "veterans" of this community, it's not "our" population affected by this. Why? We know better man. Simple, and factual statement. We've seen shady stuff over the years and know that you either buy stubs via the appropriate parties, or earn them through the game.
Streamers advertising 3rd party stub sellers and people thinking those sales are legit, I don't have sympathy for. Those same streamers are likely getting kick back from those 3rd party sellers.
I'm sure there are innocent people that have been banned. I get it. Innocent before proven guilty works with laws, but not private companies in an online virtual environment that you agree to use under those terms, everytime you log in.
Terrific. I work in IT as well. You are clueless when it comes to how competent SDS/EA/insert big company is at investigating these things. I was banned by EA and it took multiple weeks for those idiots to resolve the issue. Giving people a 24 hour ban would be fine, but EVERYONE that got that ban is still banned for a full year now.
Let's be honest here. The MLB community is a joke size wise compared to the other big sports games. Nobody cares about the "grizzled vets" who have no sympathy for anything.
I agree. You shouldn't ban people who didn't create the situation. If there is a glitch then fix it. If you see overwhelming evidence that a person bought stubs from a 3rd party site they should be banned. But someone seeing a large margin on a card and flipping for a profit is not wrong. SDS set the lowest bid for Trout at 10k and the highest at 700k. So we should be able to bid within those margins.
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There's no "player to player" trading of in game currency here. SDS relies completely on metadata and the underlying time stamp associated with transactions.
If I list Giambi for 10000 stubs and Crypto buys it, the timestamp on that transaction matches us together. It's not a blind anonymous transaction.
Let's say that they identify me as the bad actor. They're sure going to look at the other side of my transactions to see who was part of it. You know that once they have that population, they parse for common themes and drop the ban.
Yeah, innocent people will inadvertently get a ban. Overall, it's better for business than taking another week to investigate every single person.
And after all, it is a business for them.
I'd bet that one buy or sell to the bad actors here didn't result in a ban of an innocent. I'd say that it would require a time stamp of WHEN you listed that buy/sell and when the bad actors were making the transactions.
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Not wrong...shouldn't blame the community for taking advantage of what many innocently enough thought was a genuine turn of luck in their favor. It's easier to ban en masse than to actually find the culprits.
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@crimson_monk_psn said in Account Banned:
@hoboadam_psn said in Account Banned:
I've been pretty silent on this but I'll give some opinions now. As a person whose job it has been for over 25 years to manage, store code for and debug data, here's my take...
SDS did the right thing by banning innocents inadvertantly. Every minute these stubs and activity is out there, it becomes harder to unravel and causes more harm to the market. This year, the market has been more stable than ever. People haven't been making millions flipping. That says it all.
SDS has the data to back up ANY claim of innocence. If you are in fact innocent, send in your ticket. Be polite. Cite some dates and transactions. It will only help expedite.
Like many other "veterans" of this community, it's not "our" population affected by this. Why? We know better man. Simple, and factual statement. We've seen shady stuff over the years and know that you either buy stubs via the appropriate parties, or earn them through the game.
Streamers advertising 3rd party stub sellers and people thinking those sales are legit, I don't have sympathy for. Those same streamers are likely getting kick back from those 3rd party sellers.
I'm sure there are innocent people that have been banned. I get it. Innocent before proven guilty works with laws, but not private companies in an online virtual environment that you agree to use under those terms, everytime you log in.
the streamers should get banned too for advertising said sites
Only way I’d ever known about the place.
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@glltchmaglc_psn said in Account Banned:
@crimson_monk_psn said in Account Banned:
@hoboadam_psn said in Account Banned:
I've been pretty silent on this but I'll give some opinions now. As a person whose job it has been for over 25 years to manage, store code for and debug data, here's my take...
SDS did the right thing by banning innocents inadvertantly. Every minute these stubs and activity is out there, it becomes harder to unravel and causes more harm to the market. This year, the market has been more stable than ever. People haven't been making millions flipping. That says it all.
SDS has the data to back up ANY claim of innocence. If you are in fact innocent, send in your ticket. Be polite. Cite some dates and transactions. It will only help expedite.
Like many other "veterans" of this community, it's not "our" population affected by this. Why? We know better man. Simple, and factual statement. We've seen shady stuff over the years and know that you either buy stubs via the appropriate parties, or earn them through the game.
Streamers advertising 3rd party stub sellers and people thinking those sales are legit, I don't have sympathy for. Those same streamers are likely getting kick back from those 3rd party sellers.
I'm sure there are innocent people that have been banned. I get it. Innocent before proven guilty works with laws, but not private companies in an online virtual environment that you agree to use under those terms, everytime you log in.
the streamers should get banned too for advertising said sites
Only way I’d ever known about the place.
Streamers won't get banned because they do a better job at promoting their product than the actual 10 second TV commercials do lol.
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@random_schmuck_psn said in Account Banned:
@dart_wuffy_psn said in Account Banned:
If you sell anything for 100% profit in stubs you deserve the punishment.
What an idiotic statement. If I get a card for daily login reward my cost is 0. If I sell the card for ANY amount the profit is by definition 100%. I’m not quite sure if you are ignorant of the English language, ignorant of basic economics, or a lot of both. I DO believe you are mistaking the terms profit and mark-up though.
Your account name says it all. Not even going to go into how wrong you are.
