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@the_dragon1912 said in Account Banned:
@cryptopowell90_psn said in Account Banned:
@the_dragon1912 said in Account Banned:
@cryptopowell90_psn said in Account Banned:
@grizzbear55_psn said in Account Banned:
@justinlarson_psn said in Account Banned:
I went ahead and submitted a ticket with a screen shot of the pack I pulled Trout from dated 4/18/22.... so now I guess waiting is all I can do.
This is probabally the way to go if you did nothing wrong, they investigate and solve it. But people who knew they were scamming probabally won't submit ticket b/c it will be evidence against them.
Due to how much the market was affected they prolly just banned all accts that had activity with open mind to those who did nothing wrong. But they had to do something because of how big of an impact it had, until they get to the source.
I'm not sure all factors in this are but if you are innocent the truth will out.
Sorry but you are absolutely dead wrong. They should NOT be banning accounts that had "activity" related to the impacted cards. If it made such a huge impact then why is Mike Trout more expensive right now than a week ago? It wasn't a huge deal in the scheme of things and the problem originated because they chose to put the game on the stupid Switch and somebody found a way to get free unlimited stubs and bought up all the cards.
People having 3-4 times the amount of stubs they should have absolutely has an impact. On the surface there is no way to tell if its accidental or if the guy with infinite stubs gave people a heads up first. Don't get me wrong, there were probably quite a few otherwise innocent people that got hit with bans, but a true innocent person partaking in this fiasco would be mostly coincidence. Like they pulled the card in that time frame or just happened to look at the price then. It's not like the prices were like that all day. It was several 10 minute windows throughout the day. The vast majority of participants knew what they were getting into.
SDS left a glitch out there and it got exploited. It boils down to their responsibility and banning people that bought cards cheaper than usual on the market fair and square is such a joke and illegal. It is NOT our responsibility to know the EXACT market value of cards that SDS puts in their game and on their localized market.
If you got caught in the crossfire then send a ticket with proof of buy/sells/pack pulls etc. some innocent people did get banned, I won't argue with you on that. I've just seen a lot of comments and posts in this community that thought they didn't do anything wrong but bought stubs 3rd party. They should be able to tell the innocent from the guilty pretty easily. It's easier to ban everyone involved and fix it later than potentially miss the worst offenders
Are you listening to yourself? Its better to BAN innocent parties than doing a legitimate investigation and banning those responsible for the actual glitch? Why do you hate the community so much? I didn't get caught up in this and have never bought stubs because I have time wfh to flip cards. You simping to SDS about banning innocent people is so nuts.
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@cryptopowell90_psn said in Account Banned:
@the_dragon1912 said in Account Banned:
@cryptopowell90_psn said in Account Banned:
@the_dragon1912 said in Account Banned:
@cryptopowell90_psn said in Account Banned:
@grizzbear55_psn said in Account Banned:
@justinlarson_psn said in Account Banned:
I went ahead and submitted a ticket with a screen shot of the pack I pulled Trout from dated 4/18/22.... so now I guess waiting is all I can do.
This is probabally the way to go if you did nothing wrong, they investigate and solve it. But people who knew they were scamming probabally won't submit ticket b/c it will be evidence against them.
Due to how much the market was affected they prolly just banned all accts that had activity with open mind to those who did nothing wrong. But they had to do something because of how big of an impact it had, until they get to the source.
I'm not sure all factors in this are but if you are innocent the truth will out.
Sorry but you are absolutely dead wrong. They should NOT be banning accounts that had "activity" related to the impacted cards. If it made such a huge impact then why is Mike Trout more expensive right now than a week ago? It wasn't a huge deal in the scheme of things and the problem originated because they chose to put the game on the stupid Switch and somebody found a way to get free unlimited stubs and bought up all the cards.
People having 3-4 times the amount of stubs they should have absolutely has an impact. On the surface there is no way to tell if its accidental or if the guy with infinite stubs gave people a heads up first. Don't get me wrong, there were probably quite a few otherwise innocent people that got hit with bans, but a true innocent person partaking in this fiasco would be mostly coincidence. Like they pulled the card in that time frame or just happened to look at the price then. It's not like the prices were like that all day. It was several 10 minute windows throughout the day. The vast majority of participants knew what they were getting into.
SDS left a glitch out there and it got exploited. It boils down to their responsibility and banning people that bought cards cheaper than usual on the market fair and square is such a joke and illegal. It is NOT our responsibility to know the EXACT market value of cards that SDS puts in their game and on their localized market.
If you got caught in the crossfire then send a ticket with proof of buy/sells/pack pulls etc. some innocent people did get banned, I won't argue with you on that. I've just seen a lot of comments and posts in this community that thought they didn't do anything wrong but bought stubs 3rd party. They should be able to tell the innocent from the guilty pretty easily. It's easier to ban everyone involved and fix it later than potentially miss the worst offenders
Are you listening to yourself? Its better to BAN innocent parties than doing a legitimate investigation and banning those responsible for the actual glitch? Why do you hate the community so much? I didn't get caught up in this and have never bought stubs because I have time wfh to flip cards. You simping to SDS about banning innocent people is so nuts.
Am I Simping for SDS or I don't trust this community to tell the truth about their actions? I've yet to see a member of this community thats been around a while and know is legit get banned. I've been apart of this community for a long time. The majority of the bans were handed out to madden kids who bought stubs or were trying to cheat the system. If wanting this community to play by the rules is simping for SDS you can certainly have that opinion, but its wrong. Anyone cheating the market is screwing over good people that make stubs on the market the right way just as much as it hurts SDS
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@the_dragon1912 said in Account Banned:
@cryptopowell90_psn said in Account Banned:
@the_dragon1912 said in Account Banned:
@cryptopowell90_psn said in Account Banned:
@the_dragon1912 said in Account Banned:
@cryptopowell90_psn said in Account Banned:
@grizzbear55_psn said in Account Banned:
@justinlarson_psn said in Account Banned:
I went ahead and submitted a ticket with a screen shot of the pack I pulled Trout from dated 4/18/22.... so now I guess waiting is all I can do.
This is probabally the way to go if you did nothing wrong, they investigate and solve it. But people who knew they were scamming probabally won't submit ticket b/c it will be evidence against them.
Due to how much the market was affected they prolly just banned all accts that had activity with open mind to those who did nothing wrong. But they had to do something because of how big of an impact it had, until they get to the source.
I'm not sure all factors in this are but if you are innocent the truth will out.
Sorry but you are absolutely dead wrong. They should NOT be banning accounts that had "activity" related to the impacted cards. If it made such a huge impact then why is Mike Trout more expensive right now than a week ago? It wasn't a huge deal in the scheme of things and the problem originated because they chose to put the game on the stupid Switch and somebody found a way to get free unlimited stubs and bought up all the cards.
People having 3-4 times the amount of stubs they should have absolutely has an impact. On the surface there is no way to tell if its accidental or if the guy with infinite stubs gave people a heads up first. Don't get me wrong, there were probably quite a few otherwise innocent people that got hit with bans, but a true innocent person partaking in this fiasco would be mostly coincidence. Like they pulled the card in that time frame or just happened to look at the price then. It's not like the prices were like that all day. It was several 10 minute windows throughout the day. The vast majority of participants knew what they were getting into.
SDS left a glitch out there and it got exploited. It boils down to their responsibility and banning people that bought cards cheaper than usual on the market fair and square is such a joke and illegal. It is NOT our responsibility to know the EXACT market value of cards that SDS puts in their game and on their localized market.
If you got caught in the crossfire then send a ticket with proof of buy/sells/pack pulls etc. some innocent people did get banned, I won't argue with you on that. I've just seen a lot of comments and posts in this community that thought they didn't do anything wrong but bought stubs 3rd party. They should be able to tell the innocent from the guilty pretty easily. It's easier to ban everyone involved and fix it later than potentially miss the worst offenders
Are you listening to yourself? Its better to BAN innocent parties than doing a legitimate investigation and banning those responsible for the actual glitch? Why do you hate the community so much? I didn't get caught up in this and have never bought stubs because I have time wfh to flip cards. You simping to SDS about banning innocent people is so nuts.
Am I Simping for SDS or I don't trust this community to tell the truth about their actions? I've yet to see a member of this community thats been around a while and know is legit get banned. I've been apart of this community for a long time. The majority of the bans were handed out to madden kids who bought stubs or were trying to cheat the system. If wanting this community to play by the rules is simping for SDS you can certainly have that opinion, but its wrong. Anyone cheating the market is screwing over good people that make stubs on the market the right way just as much as it hurts SDS
Then say that. I agree that buying stubs is illegal. I don't really care but that is bannable and those people shouldn't complain (same about multi accounts). My issue is the people that didn't buy or sell stubs and just exploited the market that was freely available to them
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@cryptopowell90_psn said in Account Banned:
@the_dragon1912 said in Account Banned:
@cryptopowell90_psn said in Account Banned:
@the_dragon1912 said in Account Banned:
@cryptopowell90_psn said in Account Banned:
@grizzbear55_psn said in Account Banned:
@justinlarson_psn said in Account Banned:
I went ahead and submitted a ticket with a screen shot of the pack I pulled Trout from dated 4/18/22.... so now I guess waiting is all I can do.
This is probabally the way to go if you did nothing wrong, they investigate and solve it. But people who knew they were scamming probabally won't submit ticket b/c it will be evidence against them.
Due to how much the market was affected they prolly just banned all accts that had activity with open mind to those who did nothing wrong. But they had to do something because of how big of an impact it had, until they get to the source.
I'm not sure all factors in this are but if you are innocent the truth will out.
Sorry but you are absolutely dead wrong. They should NOT be banning accounts that had "activity" related to the impacted cards. If it made such a huge impact then why is Mike Trout more expensive right now than a week ago? It wasn't a huge deal in the scheme of things and the problem originated because they chose to put the game on the stupid Switch and somebody found a way to get free unlimited stubs and bought up all the cards.
People having 3-4 times the amount of stubs they should have absolutely has an impact. On the surface there is no way to tell if its accidental or if the guy with infinite stubs gave people a heads up first. Don't get me wrong, there were probably quite a few otherwise innocent people that got hit with bans, but a true innocent person partaking in this fiasco would be mostly coincidence. Like they pulled the card in that time frame or just happened to look at the price then. It's not like the prices were like that all day. It was several 10 minute windows throughout the day. The vast majority of participants knew what they were getting into.
SDS left a glitch out there and it got exploited. It boils down to their responsibility and banning people that bought cards cheaper than usual on the market fair and square is such a joke and illegal. It is NOT our responsibility to know the EXACT market value of cards that SDS puts in their game and on their localized market.
If you got caught in the crossfire then send a ticket with proof of buy/sells/pack pulls etc. some innocent people did get banned, I won't argue with you on that. I've just seen a lot of comments and posts in this community that thought they didn't do anything wrong but bought stubs 3rd party. They should be able to tell the innocent from the guilty pretty easily. It's easier to ban everyone involved and fix it later than potentially miss the worst offenders
Are you listening to yourself? Its better to BAN innocent parties than doing a legitimate investigation and banning those responsible for the actual glitch? Why do you hate the community so much? I didn't get caught up in this and have never bought stubs because I have time wfh to flip cards. You simping to SDS about banning innocent people is so nuts.
Look man it sucks. But you knew what you were doing when you saw the prices and started removing cards from your lineup to sell them. Do i think that should be a ban, no. Honestly most people would have done the same thing.
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@go4stros25_psn said in Account Banned:
@cryptopowell90_psn said in Account Banned:
@the_dragon1912 said in Account Banned:
@cryptopowell90_psn said in Account Banned:
@the_dragon1912 said in Account Banned:
@cryptopowell90_psn said in Account Banned:
@grizzbear55_psn said in Account Banned:
@justinlarson_psn said in Account Banned:
I went ahead and submitted a ticket with a screen shot of the pack I pulled Trout from dated 4/18/22.... so now I guess waiting is all I can do.
This is probabally the way to go if you did nothing wrong, they investigate and solve it. But people who knew they were scamming probabally won't submit ticket b/c it will be evidence against them.
Due to how much the market was affected they prolly just banned all accts that had activity with open mind to those who did nothing wrong. But they had to do something because of how big of an impact it had, until they get to the source.
I'm not sure all factors in this are but if you are innocent the truth will out.
Sorry but you are absolutely dead wrong. They should NOT be banning accounts that had "activity" related to the impacted cards. If it made such a huge impact then why is Mike Trout more expensive right now than a week ago? It wasn't a huge deal in the scheme of things and the problem originated because they chose to put the game on the stupid Switch and somebody found a way to get free unlimited stubs and bought up all the cards.
People having 3-4 times the amount of stubs they should have absolutely has an impact. On the surface there is no way to tell if its accidental or if the guy with infinite stubs gave people a heads up first. Don't get me wrong, there were probably quite a few otherwise innocent people that got hit with bans, but a true innocent person partaking in this fiasco would be mostly coincidence. Like they pulled the card in that time frame or just happened to look at the price then. It's not like the prices were like that all day. It was several 10 minute windows throughout the day. The vast majority of participants knew what they were getting into.
SDS left a glitch out there and it got exploited. It boils down to their responsibility and banning people that bought cards cheaper than usual on the market fair and square is such a joke and illegal. It is NOT our responsibility to know the EXACT market value of cards that SDS puts in their game and on their localized market.
If you got caught in the crossfire then send a ticket with proof of buy/sells/pack pulls etc. some innocent people did get banned, I won't argue with you on that. I've just seen a lot of comments and posts in this community that thought they didn't do anything wrong but bought stubs 3rd party. They should be able to tell the innocent from the guilty pretty easily. It's easier to ban everyone involved and fix it later than potentially miss the worst offenders
Are you listening to yourself? Its better to BAN innocent parties than doing a legitimate investigation and banning those responsible for the actual glitch? Why do you hate the community so much? I didn't get caught up in this and have never bought stubs because I have time wfh to flip cards. You simping to SDS about banning innocent people is so nuts.
Look man it sucks. But you knew what you were doing when you saw the prices and started removing cards from your lineup to sell them. Do i think that should be a ban, no. Honestly most people would have done the same thing.
Submit your ticket and if you didn't do anything wrong they will fix the situation, but don't start attacking people and calling names.For the fourth of fifth time, I was NOT banned. You knew what you were doing by selling guys when their prices spiked? Okay, think what you want. Just sad that people in the community are so unwilling to take a stand.
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@vipersneak_psn said in Account Banned:
I think selling things for twice their value might have something to do with it. I can understand the allure, but don't do it.
I have a feeling you don't know what the term market value means.
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SDS stores and see what each account has and does. If you pulled Trout from at pack at the same time the market was all over the place and you right away put in a sell order you would most likely not get banned as SDS can see the time stamp of the events. This would even be the same if you had Trout from a pack in your lineup for sometime and reacted to the market to see again not likely to get banned. Now if you bout 2 or 3 Trout at the 330k mark then 20 mins later all of a sudden his value spikes and you seel them right back well that would look a little suspicious do you think. Just something to chew on and let's be honestly anyone who got banned are they actually going to tell you the truth
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@cdnmoneymaker93_xbl said in Account Banned:
SDS stores and see what each account has and does. If you pulled Trout from at pack at the same time the market was all over the place and you right away put in a sell order you would most likely not get banned as SDS can see the time stamp of the events. This would even be the same if you had Trout from a pack in your lineup for sometime and reacted to the market to see again not likely to get banned. Now if you bout 2 or 3 Trout at the 330k mark then 20 mins later all of a sudden his value spikes and you seel them right back well that would look a little suspicious do you think. Just something to chew on and let's be honestly anyone who got banned are they actually going to tell you the truth
Right before this all started on Monday I was working out what it would take to finish off the gatekeepers. I was about 150k away and I had more than enough sell orders (diamond equipment) to finish. So I put happened to put in buy orders of 200k on Trout with the expectation that they weren't going to go through as there were probably 40 orders ahead ranging up to 320k. After listing a few more sells I hit the "my orders" button and noticed that two of my orders were missing. I locked one Trout in and listed the other for sale at 388k which was the lowest bid at the moment. I realized right away what was happening so I stopped working the market and put in buy orders on my remaining gatekeepers and finished the collection.
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@dart_wuffy_psn said in Account Banned:
If you sell anything for 100% profit in stubs you deserve the punishment.
What an idiotic statement. If I get a card for daily login reward my cost is 0. If I sell the card for ANY amount the profit is by definition 100%. I’m not quite sure if you are ignorant of the English language, ignorant of basic economics, or a lot of both. I DO believe you are mistaking the terms profit and mark-up though.
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@cryptopowell90_psn said in Account Banned:
@the_dragon1912 said in Account Banned:
@cryptopowell90_psn said in Account Banned:
@the_dragon1912 said in Account Banned:
@cryptopowell90_psn said in Account Banned:
@the_dragon1912 said in Account Banned:
@cryptopowell90_psn said in Account Banned:
@grizzbear55_psn said in Account Banned:
@justinlarson_psn said in Account Banned:
I went ahead and submitted a ticket with a screen shot of the pack I pulled Trout from dated 4/18/22.... so now I guess waiting is all I can do.
This is probabally the way to go if you did nothing wrong, they investigate and solve it. But people who knew they were scamming probabally won't submit ticket b/c it will be evidence against them.
Due to how much the market was affected they prolly just banned all accts that had activity with open mind to those who did nothing wrong. But they had to do something because of how big of an impact it had, until they get to the source.
I'm not sure all factors in this are but if you are innocent the truth will out.
Sorry but you are absolutely dead wrong. They should NOT be banning accounts that had "activity" related to the impacted cards. If it made such a huge impact then why is Mike Trout more expensive right now than a week ago? It wasn't a huge deal in the scheme of things and the problem originated because they chose to put the game on the stupid Switch and somebody found a way to get free unlimited stubs and bought up all the cards.
People having 3-4 times the amount of stubs they should have absolutely has an impact. On the surface there is no way to tell if its accidental or if the guy with infinite stubs gave people a heads up first. Don't get me wrong, there were probably quite a few otherwise innocent people that got hit with bans, but a true innocent person partaking in this fiasco would be mostly coincidence. Like they pulled the card in that time frame or just happened to look at the price then. It's not like the prices were like that all day. It was several 10 minute windows throughout the day. The vast majority of participants knew what they were getting into.
SDS left a glitch out there and it got exploited. It boils down to their responsibility and banning people that bought cards cheaper than usual on the market fair and square is such a joke and illegal. It is NOT our responsibility to know the EXACT market value of cards that SDS puts in their game and on their localized market.
If you got caught in the crossfire then send a ticket with proof of buy/sells/pack pulls etc. some innocent people did get banned, I won't argue with you on that. I've just seen a lot of comments and posts in this community that thought they didn't do anything wrong but bought stubs 3rd party. They should be able to tell the innocent from the guilty pretty easily. It's easier to ban everyone involved and fix it later than potentially miss the worst offenders
Are you listening to yourself? Its better to BAN innocent parties than doing a legitimate investigation and banning those responsible for the actual glitch? Why do you hate the community so much? I didn't get caught up in this and have never bought stubs because I have time wfh to flip cards. You simping to SDS about banning innocent people is so nuts.
Am I Simping for SDS or I don't trust this community to tell the truth about their actions? I've yet to see a member of this community thats been around a while and know is legit get banned. I've been apart of this community for a long time. The majority of the bans were handed out to madden kids who bought stubs or were trying to cheat the system. If wanting this community to play by the rules is simping for SDS you can certainly have that opinion, but its wrong. Anyone cheating the market is screwing over good people that make stubs on the market the right way just as much as it hurts SDS
Then say that. I agree that buying stubs is illegal. I don't really care but that is bannable and those people shouldn't complain (same about multi accounts). My issue is the people that didn't buy or sell stubs and just exploited the market that was freely available to them
actually flipping is mostly benefit to SDS.
there is a popular theory that flipping is beneficial to market movement and price stability and a healthier market.
and with a healthy market that has stability it would make cards seem more obtainable which would enhance stub buying.
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@painpa_psn said in Account Banned:
@cryptopowell90_psn said in Account Banned:
@the_dragon1912 said in Account Banned:
@cryptopowell90_psn said in Account Banned:
@the_dragon1912 said in Account Banned:
@cryptopowell90_psn said in Account Banned:
@the_dragon1912 said in Account Banned:
@cryptopowell90_psn said in Account Banned:
@grizzbear55_psn said in Account Banned:
@justinlarson_psn said in Account Banned:
I went ahead and submitted a ticket with a screen shot of the pack I pulled Trout from dated 4/18/22.... so now I guess waiting is all I can do.
This is probabally the way to go if you did nothing wrong, they investigate and solve it. But people who knew they were scamming probabally won't submit ticket b/c it will be evidence against them.
Due to how much the market was affected they prolly just banned all accts that had activity with open mind to those who did nothing wrong. But they had to do something because of how big of an impact it had, until they get to the source.
I'm not sure all factors in this are but if you are innocent the truth will out.
Sorry but you are absolutely dead wrong. They should NOT be banning accounts that had "activity" related to the impacted cards. If it made such a huge impact then why is Mike Trout more expensive right now than a week ago? It wasn't a huge deal in the scheme of things and the problem originated because they chose to put the game on the stupid Switch and somebody found a way to get free unlimited stubs and bought up all the cards.
People having 3-4 times the amount of stubs they should have absolutely has an impact. On the surface there is no way to tell if its accidental or if the guy with infinite stubs gave people a heads up first. Don't get me wrong, there were probably quite a few otherwise innocent people that got hit with bans, but a true innocent person partaking in this fiasco would be mostly coincidence. Like they pulled the card in that time frame or just happened to look at the price then. It's not like the prices were like that all day. It was several 10 minute windows throughout the day. The vast majority of participants knew what they were getting into.
SDS left a glitch out there and it got exploited. It boils down to their responsibility and banning people that bought cards cheaper than usual on the market fair and square is such a joke and illegal. It is NOT our responsibility to know the EXACT market value of cards that SDS puts in their game and on their localized market.
If you got caught in the crossfire then send a ticket with proof of buy/sells/pack pulls etc. some innocent people did get banned, I won't argue with you on that. I've just seen a lot of comments and posts in this community that thought they didn't do anything wrong but bought stubs 3rd party. They should be able to tell the innocent from the guilty pretty easily. It's easier to ban everyone involved and fix it later than potentially miss the worst offenders
Are you listening to yourself? Its better to BAN innocent parties than doing a legitimate investigation and banning those responsible for the actual glitch? Why do you hate the community so much? I didn't get caught up in this and have never bought stubs because I have time wfh to flip cards. You simping to SDS about banning innocent people is so nuts.
Am I Simping for SDS or I don't trust this community to tell the truth about their actions? I've yet to see a member of this community thats been around a while and know is legit get banned. I've been apart of this community for a long time. The majority of the bans were handed out to madden kids who bought stubs or were trying to cheat the system. If wanting this community to play by the rules is simping for SDS you can certainly have that opinion, but its wrong. Anyone cheating the market is screwing over good people that make stubs on the market the right way just as much as it hurts SDS
Then say that. I agree that buying stubs is illegal. I don't really care but that is bannable and those people shouldn't complain (same about multi accounts). My issue is the people that didn't buy or sell stubs and just exploited the market that was freely available to them
actually flipping is mostly benefit to SDS.
there is a popular theory that flipping is beneficial to market movement and price stability and a healthier market.
and with a healthy market that has stability it would make cards seem more obtainable which would enhance stub buying.
Edit oops quoted wrong oneYeah I agree. People flipping naturally tighten the margins and make the market healthier. I meant that people buying stubs from sellers is bannable.
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@cryptopowell90_psn said in Account Banned:
@dart_wuffy_psn said in Account Banned:
If you sell anything for 100% profit in stubs you deserve the punishment.
What in the world is wrong with you? If I buy a uniform for 1000 stubs and sell it for 2200 then you think I deserve to be banned?
Profit is ok. But too much profit and you get the ban hammer? Lol!
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I've been pretty silent on this but I'll give some opinions now. As a person whose job it has been for over 25 years to manage, store code for and debug data, here's my take...
SDS did the right thing by banning innocents inadvertantly. Every minute these stubs and activity is out there, it becomes harder to unravel and causes more harm to the market. This year, the market has been more stable than ever. People haven't been making millions flipping. That says it all.
SDS has the data to back up ANY claim of innocence. If you are in fact innocent, send in your ticket. Be polite. Cite some dates and transactions. It will only help expedite.
Like many other "veterans" of this community, it's not "our" population affected by this. Why? We know better man. Simple, and factual statement. We've seen shady stuff over the years and know that you either buy stubs via the appropriate parties, or earn them through the game.
Streamers advertising 3rd party stub sellers and people thinking those sales are legit, I don't have sympathy for. Those same streamers are likely getting kick back from those 3rd party sellers.
I'm sure there are innocent people that have been banned. I get it. Innocent before proven guilty works with laws, but not private companies in an online virtual environment that you agree to use under those terms, everytime you log in.
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@hoboadam_psn said in Account Banned:
I've been pretty silent on this but I'll give some opinions now. As a person whose job it has been for over 25 years to manage, store code for and debug data, here's my take...
SDS did the right thing by banning innocents inadvertantly. Every minute these stubs and activity is out there, it becomes harder to unravel and causes more harm to the market. This year, the market has been more stable than ever. People haven't been making millions flipping. That says it all.
SDS has the data to back up ANY claim of innocence. If you are in fact innocent, send in your ticket. Be polite. Cite some dates and transactions. It will only help expedite.
Like many other "veterans" of this community, it's not "our" population affected by this. Why? We know better man. Simple, and factual statement. We've seen shady stuff over the years and know that you either buy stubs via the appropriate parties, or earn them through the game.
Streamers advertising 3rd party stub sellers and people thinking those sales are legit, I don't have sympathy for. Those same streamers are likely getting kick back from those 3rd party sellers.
I'm sure there are innocent people that have been banned. I get it. Innocent before proven guilty works with laws, but not private companies in an online virtual environment that you agree to use under those terms, everytime you log in.
the streamers should get banned too for advertising said sites
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@crimson_monk_psn said in Account Banned:
@hoboadam_psn said in Account Banned:
I've been pretty silent on this but I'll give some opinions now. As a person whose job it has been for over 25 years to manage, store code for and debug data, here's my take...
SDS did the right thing by banning innocents inadvertantly. Every minute these stubs and activity is out there, it becomes harder to unravel and causes more harm to the market. This year, the market has been more stable than ever. People haven't been making millions flipping. That says it all.
SDS has the data to back up ANY claim of innocence. If you are in fact innocent, send in your ticket. Be polite. Cite some dates and transactions. It will only help expedite.
Like many other "veterans" of this community, it's not "our" population affected by this. Why? We know better man. Simple, and factual statement. We've seen shady stuff over the years and know that you either buy stubs via the appropriate parties, or earn them through the game.
Streamers advertising 3rd party stub sellers and people thinking those sales are legit, I don't have sympathy for. Those same streamers are likely getting kick back from those 3rd party sellers.
I'm sure there are innocent people that have been banned. I get it. Innocent before proven guilty works with laws, but not private companies in an online virtual environment that you agree to use under those terms, everytime you log in.
the streamers should get banned too for advertising said sites
I cannot agree more. I've seen at least one dude crying on Twitter about it. Sorry kiddo. Move on to the next game son...
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@theblindrhino said in Account Banned:
@cdnmoneymaker93_xbl said in Account Banned:
SDS stores and see what each account has and does. If you pulled Trout from at pack at the same time the market was all over the place and you right away put in a sell order you would most likely not get banned as SDS can see the time stamp of the events. This would even be the same if you had Trout from a pack in your lineup for sometime and reacted to the market to see again not likely to get banned. Now if you bout 2 or 3 Trout at the 330k mark then 20 mins later all of a sudden his value spikes and you seel them right back well that would look a little suspicious do you think. Just something to chew on and let's be honestly anyone who got banned are they actually going to tell you the truth
Right before this all started on Monday I was working out what it would take to finish off the gatekeepers. I was about 150k away and I had more than enough sell orders (diamond equipment) to finish. So I put happened to put in buy orders of 200k on Trout with the expectation that they weren't going to go through as there were probably 40 orders ahead ranging up to 320k. After listing a few more sells I hit the "my orders" button and noticed that two of my orders were missing. I locked one Trout in and listed the other for sale at 388k which was the lowest bid at the moment. I realized right away what was happening so I stopped working the market and put in buy orders on my remaining gatekeepers and finished the collection.
Anyone supposed to believe this? Only reason you would put in a single buy order for Trout at 200k is to store stubs. 0% chance that order gets filled this time of year. But you didn't just put 1 in, you put in 2, coincidentally right when the shenanigans kicked off?
The Ron Burgundy quote previously used applies here as well.
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@th3l1ght_psn said in Account Banned:
@theblindrhino said in Account Banned:
@cdnmoneymaker93_xbl said in Account Banned:
SDS stores and see what each account has and does. If you pulled Trout from at pack at the same time the market was all over the place and you right away put in a sell order you would most likely not get banned as SDS can see the time stamp of the events. This would even be the same if you had Trout from a pack in your lineup for sometime and reacted to the market to see again not likely to get banned. Now if you bout 2 or 3 Trout at the 330k mark then 20 mins later all of a sudden his value spikes and you seel them right back well that would look a little suspicious do you think. Just something to chew on and let's be honestly anyone who got banned are they actually going to tell you the truth
Right before this all started on Monday I was working out what it would take to finish off the gatekeepers. I was about 150k away and I had more than enough sell orders (diamond equipment) to finish. So I put happened to put in buy orders of 200k on Trout with the expectation that they weren't going to go through as there were probably 40 orders ahead ranging up to 320k. After listing a few more sells I hit the "my orders" button and noticed that two of my orders were missing. I locked one Trout in and listed the other for sale at 388k which was the lowest bid at the moment. I realized right away what was happening so I stopped working the market and put in buy orders on my remaining gatekeepers and finished the collection.
Anyone supposed to believe this? Only reason you would put in a single buy order for Trout at 200k is to store stubs. 0% chance that order gets filled this time of year. But you didn't just put 1 in, you put in 2, coincidentally right when the shenanigans kicked off?
The Ron Burgundy quote previously used applies here as well.
I put in several buy orders for 200k because putting them in at 400k doesn’t work. Putting them in at 10k is time consuming. Had I been “in on it” I would have listed to sell well higher than I did. Also I haven’t been banned so SDS probably realized from my 3000 pages of transactions that I’m not buying stubs.
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@theblindrhino said in Account Banned:
@cdnmoneymaker93_xbl said in Account Banned:
SDS stores and see what each account has and does. If you pulled Trout from at pack at the same time the market was all over the place and you right away put in a sell order you would most likely not get banned as SDS can see the time stamp of the events. This would even be the same if you had Trout from a pack in your lineup for sometime and reacted to the market to see again not likely to get banned. Now if you bout 2 or 3 Trout at the 330k mark then 20 mins later all of a sudden his value spikes and you seel them right back well that would look a little suspicious do you think. Just something to chew on and let's be honestly anyone who got banned are they actually going to tell you the truth
Right before this all started on Monday I was working out what it would take to finish off the gatekeepers. I was about 150k away and I had more than enough sell orders (diamond equipment) to finish. So I put happened to put in buy orders of 200k on Trout with the expectation that they weren't going to go through as there were probably 40 orders ahead ranging up to 320k. After listing a few more sells I hit the "my orders" button and noticed that two of my orders were missing. I locked one Trout in and listed the other for sale at 388k which was the lowest bid at the moment. I realized right away what was happening so I stopped working the market and put in buy orders on my remaining gatekeepers and finished the collection.
So my question is did you get banned or did you avoid the ban hammer?
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@cdnmoneymaker93_xbl said in Account Banned:
@theblindrhino said in Account Banned:
@cdnmoneymaker93_xbl said in Account Banned:
SDS stores and see what each account has and does. If you pulled Trout from at pack at the same time the market was all over the place and you right away put in a sell order you would most likely not get banned as SDS can see the time stamp of the events. This would even be the same if you had Trout from a pack in your lineup for sometime and reacted to the market to see again not likely to get banned. Now if you bout 2 or 3 Trout at the 330k mark then 20 mins later all of a sudden his value spikes and you seel them right back well that would look a little suspicious do you think. Just something to chew on and let's be honestly anyone who got banned are they actually going to tell you the truth
Right before this all started on Monday I was working out what it would take to finish off the gatekeepers. I was about 150k away and I had more than enough sell orders (diamond equipment) to finish. So I put happened to put in buy orders of 200k on Trout with the expectation that they weren't going to go through as there were probably 40 orders ahead ranging up to 320k. After listing a few more sells I hit the "my orders" button and noticed that two of my orders were missing. I locked one Trout in and listed the other for sale at 388k which was the lowest bid at the moment. I realized right away what was happening so I stopped working the market and put in buy orders on my remaining gatekeepers and finished the collection.
So my question is did you get banned or did you avoid the ban hammer?
Not banned.
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@theblindrhino said in Account Banned:
@cdnmoneymaker93_xbl said in Account Banned:
@theblindrhino said in Account Banned:
@cdnmoneymaker93_xbl said in Account Banned:
SDS stores and see what each account has and does. If you pulled Trout from at pack at the same time the market was all over the place and you right away put in a sell order you would most likely not get banned as SDS can see the time stamp of the events. This would even be the same if you had Trout from a pack in your lineup for sometime and reacted to the market to see again not likely to get banned. Now if you bout 2 or 3 Trout at the 330k mark then 20 mins later all of a sudden his value spikes and you seel them right back well that would look a little suspicious do you think. Just something to chew on and let's be honestly anyone who got banned are they actually going to tell you the truth
Right before this all started on Monday I was working out what it would take to finish off the gatekeepers. I was about 150k away and I had more than enough sell orders (diamond equipment) to finish. So I put happened to put in buy orders of 200k on Trout with the expectation that they weren't going to go through as there were probably 40 orders ahead ranging up to 320k. After listing a few more sells I hit the "my orders" button and noticed that two of my orders were missing. I locked one Trout in and listed the other for sale at 388k which was the lowest bid at the moment. I realized right away what was happening so I stopped working the market and put in buy orders on my remaining gatekeepers and finished the collection.
So my question is did you get banned or did you avoid the ban hammer?
Not banned.
Probably should be tho. Not only were you buying and selling during this fiasco to make a huge profit but also to finish off the rest of the gatekeepers. You said it yourself, once you realized what was happening you started putting in lowball orders on the rest of the gatekeepers. The rest of us will have to grind/buy that. You deserve a ban more than a guy who just sold his one Trout. That's my opinion, I don't care what your retort is.
