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  • Dolenz_PSND Offline
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    #62

    @durhambulls71 said in CBA progress:

    @arvcpa_psn said in CBA progress:

    @killerpresence4 said in CBA progress:

    Here’s a little dose of reality, in 2019 the Kansas City Royals had profits that exceeded 251 million dollars. Do you have any clue what their payroll was. I’ll answer that, a little over 109 million. The owners of the royals pocketed 140 million

    Just to be "that guy", profits are not sales. Sales were 251, cost 109, profit 142 ( if these numbers are accurate).

    This is the benefit you get by having a CPA on the forum. I provide this service free of charge.

    Not to be “that that guy” and I have no idea if those figures are accurate but if revenue was 251 and payroll was 109 there are many other expenses that would eat into that 142. Stadium lease, insurance, marketing, and tons of other costs. Again I have no idea if the quoted figures were accurate but my point is there is probably a ton of cost that goes into owning a baseball team.

    Please be that guy, because the post you are referring to and others that I have seen seem to think that the owner just pockets that extra money. They never bring up that the extra money also has to covers stadium costs, salaries for vendors and ushers and ticket takers, all the staff from trainers and coaches to office personnel and groundskeepers. Every player in the minor leagues that is not a part of team salary computation. Starting this year they have to provide housing for almost all minor leaguers. Minor league facilities. The list probably goes on an includes a lot of expenses that we don't know anything about.

    No, the owners are not saints and they do some shady stuff but in the end they are the ones taking the risks and footing the bills, while the baseball players money is risk free and guaranteed.

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    #63

    @dolenz_psn said in CBA progress:

    No, the owners are not saints and they do some shady stuff but in the end they are the ones taking the risks and footing the bills, while the baseball players money is risk free and guaranteed.

    There is virtually no risk for the owners though. Franchise valuations grow every year regardless of a team's success. Over 18 years the rays and marlins have each appreciated 800 million dollars, presumably without fan bases, and they could afford to lose $45m/year and break even while collecting a salary the whole time. Any of the "poorer" owners could sell their team right now and triple their net worth. Unless you're buying in now, in which case you are already extremely loaded and buying the team as a vanity/passion project.

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  • durhambulls71D Offline
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    @dolenz_psn said in CBA progress:

    @durhambulls71 said in CBA progress:

    @arvcpa_psn said in CBA progress:

    @killerpresence4 said in CBA progress:

    Here’s a little dose of reality, in 2019 the Kansas City Royals had profits that exceeded 251 million dollars. Do you have any clue what their payroll was. I’ll answer that, a little over 109 million. The owners of the royals pocketed 140 million

    Just to be "that guy", profits are not sales. Sales were 251, cost 109, profit 142 ( if these numbers are accurate).

    This is the benefit you get by having a CPA on the forum. I provide this service free of charge.

    Not to be “that that guy” and I have no idea if those figures are accurate but if revenue was 251 and payroll was 109 there are many other expenses that would eat into that 142. Stadium lease, insurance, marketing, and tons of other costs. Again I have no idea if the quoted figures were accurate but my point is there is probably a ton of cost that goes into owning a baseball team.

    Please be that guy, because the post you are referring to and others that I have seen seem to think that the owner just pockets that extra money. They never bring up that the extra money also has to covers stadium costs, salaries for vendors and ushers and ticket takers, all the staff from trainers and coaches to office personnel and groundskeepers. Every player in the minor leagues that is not a part of team salary computation. Starting this year they have to provide housing for almost all minor leaguers. Minor league facilities. The list probably goes on an includes a lot of expenses that we don't know anything about.

    No, the owners are not saints and they do some shady stuff but in the end they are the ones taking the risks and footing the bills, while the baseball players money is risk free and guaranteed.

    Good point and on top of it all, it comes to down to the value of the investment. It’s unlikely that somebody buying an mlb is just writing a check. They put together an investment group, took on dept etc. They paid a ton to get the franchise. If the CBA goes too far does that degrade this investment? Would they have done better investing in something else? Ultimately it’s a business and everyone is looking for a return on their investment. It’s nice to say the owners are making so many millions but what did it cost them to get that return.

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    @killerpresence4 said in CBA progress:

    @poksey_mlbts said in CBA progress:

    Where does everyone stand on a salary cap along with a minimum payroll?

    You know I already addressed that in a previous post in this thread

    My fault. I guess I didnt realize you were "everyone".

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    @killerpresence4 said in CBA progress:

    @dewrock_psn said in CBA progress:

    @soonermagic78_xbl said in CBA progress:

    @bob_loblaw1984 said in CBA progress:

    @soonermagic78_xbl said in CBA progress:

    I just was told that the players rejected the offer with no counter offer. Don’t know what all has happened but it stinks

    Owners reportedly labeled it their “best and final offer.” That language does not invite a counter offer.

    Greedy jerks. This is so damaging to baseball.

    Yep there’s absolutely no limit to the insane contracts that can be given out in baseball. All of the contracts are guaranteed. There’s no salary cap. The qualifying offer is over $18 million. Last year teams spent something like 1.5 billion in new contracts.

    I fail to see how it’s the greed of the owners. Baseball players have it made compared to NFL and NBA.

    Here’s a little dose of reality, in 2019 the Kansas City Royals had profits that exceeded 251 million dollars. Do you have any clue what their payroll was. I’ll answer that, a little over 109 million. The owners of the royals pocketed 140 million in profits. With those profits the owners could’ve afforded two or three high priced free agents so what did they actually do. They decided to tank and slash payroll. Last year their payroll was under 90 million while revenue profits were well over 200 million. So tell me, who is greedy again? BTW, these profit totals only grow from here with the mid and large market teams.

    They had revenue of 251 million. Revenue is not the same as profit. You have no idea what their profit was or if they even had any.

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    @dewrock_psn said in CBA progress:

    @killerpresence4 said in CBA progress:

    @dewrock_psn said in CBA progress:

    @soonermagic78_xbl said in CBA progress:

    @bob_loblaw1984 said in CBA progress:

    @soonermagic78_xbl said in CBA progress:

    I just was told that the players rejected the offer with no counter offer. Don’t know what all has happened but it stinks

    Owners reportedly labeled it their “best and final offer.” That language does not invite a counter offer.

    Greedy jerks. This is so damaging to baseball.

    Yep there’s absolutely no limit to the insane contracts that can be given out in baseball. All of the contracts are guaranteed. There’s no salary cap. The qualifying offer is over $18 million. Last year teams spent something like 1.5 billion in new contracts.

    I fail to see how it’s the greed of the owners. Baseball players have it made compared to NFL and NBA.

    Here’s a little dose of reality, in 2019 the Kansas City Royals had profits that exceeded 251 million dollars. Do you have any clue what their payroll was. I’ll answer that, a little over 109 million. The owners of the royals pocketed 140 million in profits. With those profits the owners could’ve afforded two or three high priced free agents so what did they actually do. They decided to tank and slash payroll. Last year their payroll was under 90 million while revenue profits were well over 200 million. So tell me, who is greedy again? BTW, these profit totals only grow from here with the mid and large market teams.

    They had revenue of 251 million. Revenue is not the same as profit. You have no idea what their profit was or if they even had any.

    I guess you didn’t see where I made that correction in an earlier post.

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    @killerpresence4 said in CBA progress:

    @dewrock_psn said in CBA progress:

    @killerpresence4 said in CBA progress:

    @dewrock_psn said in CBA progress:

    @soonermagic78_xbl said in CBA progress:

    @bob_loblaw1984 said in CBA progress:

    @soonermagic78_xbl said in CBA progress:

    I just was told that the players rejected the offer with no counter offer. Don’t know what all has happened but it stinks

    Owners reportedly labeled it their “best and final offer.” That language does not invite a counter offer.

    Greedy jerks. This is so damaging to baseball.

    Yep there’s absolutely no limit to the insane contracts that can be given out in baseball. All of the contracts are guaranteed. There’s no salary cap. The qualifying offer is over $18 million. Last year teams spent something like 1.5 billion in new contracts.

    I fail to see how it’s the greed of the owners. Baseball players have it made compared to NFL and NBA.

    Here’s a little dose of reality, in 2019 the Kansas City Royals had profits that exceeded 251 million dollars. Do you have any clue what their payroll was. I’ll answer that, a little over 109 million. The owners of the royals pocketed 140 million in profits. With those profits the owners could’ve afforded two or three high priced free agents so what did they actually do. They decided to tank and slash payroll. Last year their payroll was under 90 million while revenue profits were well over 200 million. So tell me, who is greedy again? BTW, these profit totals only grow from here with the mid and large market teams.

    They had revenue of 251 million. Revenue is not the same as profit. You have no idea what their profit was or if they even had any.

    I guess you didn’t see where I made that correction in an earlier post.

    Except you didn’t.

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    @dewrock_psn said in CBA progress:

    @killerpresence4 said in CBA progress:

    @dewrock_psn said in CBA progress:

    @killerpresence4 said in CBA progress:

    @dewrock_psn said in CBA progress:

    @soonermagic78_xbl said in CBA progress:

    @bob_loblaw1984 said in CBA progress:

    @soonermagic78_xbl said in CBA progress:

    I just was told that the players rejected the offer with no counter offer. Don’t know what all has happened but it stinks

    Owners reportedly labeled it their “best and final offer.” That language does not invite a counter offer.

    Greedy jerks. This is so damaging to baseball.

    Yep there’s absolutely no limit to the insane contracts that can be given out in baseball. All of the contracts are guaranteed. There’s no salary cap. The qualifying offer is over $18 million. Last year teams spent something like 1.5 billion in new contracts.

    I fail to see how it’s the greed of the owners. Baseball players have it made compared to NFL and NBA.

    Here’s a little dose of reality, in 2019 the Kansas City Royals had profits that exceeded 251 million dollars. Do you have any clue what their payroll was. I’ll answer that, a little over 109 million. The owners of the royals pocketed 140 million in profits. With those profits the owners could’ve afforded two or three high priced free agents so what did they actually do. They decided to tank and slash payroll. Last year their payroll was under 90 million while revenue profits were well over 200 million. So tell me, who is greedy again? BTW, these profit totals only grow from here with the mid and large market teams.

    They had revenue of 251 million. Revenue is not the same as profit. You have no idea what their profit was or if they even had any.

    I guess you didn’t see where I made that correction in an earlier post.

    Except you didn’t.

    I think @killerpresence4_MLBTS did...

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    @dewrock_psn said in CBA progress:

    @killerpresence4 said in CBA progress:

    @dewrock_psn said in CBA progress:

    @killerpresence4 said in CBA progress:

    @dewrock_psn said in CBA progress:

    @soonermagic78_xbl said in CBA progress:

    @bob_loblaw1984 said in CBA progress:

    @soonermagic78_xbl said in CBA progress:

    I just was told that the players rejected the offer with no counter offer. Don’t know what all has happened but it stinks

    Owners reportedly labeled it their “best and final offer.” That language does not invite a counter offer.

    Greedy jerks. This is so damaging to baseball.

    Yep there’s absolutely no limit to the insane contracts that can be given out in baseball. All of the contracts are guaranteed. There’s no salary cap. The qualifying offer is over $18 million. Last year teams spent something like 1.5 billion in new contracts.

    I fail to see how it’s the greed of the owners. Baseball players have it made compared to NFL and NBA.

    Here’s a little dose of reality, in 2019 the Kansas City Royals had profits that exceeded 251 million dollars. Do you have any clue what their payroll was. I’ll answer that, a little over 109 million. The owners of the royals pocketed 140 million in profits. With those profits the owners could’ve afforded two or three high priced free agents so what did they actually do. They decided to tank and slash payroll. Last year their payroll was under 90 million while revenue profits were well over 200 million. So tell me, who is greedy again? BTW, these profit totals only grow from here with the mid and large market teams.

    They had revenue of 251 million. Revenue is not the same as profit. You have no idea what their profit was or if they even had any.

    I guess you didn’t see where I made that correction in an earlier post.

    Except you didn’t.

    I guess you’re blind because my correction was made on the previous page when someone else made the exact same point you made. Please don’t make me embarrass you further!!!!

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  • dewrock_PSND Offline
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    @killerpresence4 said in CBA progress:

    @dewrock_psn said in CBA progress:

    @killerpresence4 said in CBA progress:

    @dewrock_psn said in CBA progress:

    @killerpresence4 said in CBA progress:

    @dewrock_psn said in CBA progress:

    @soonermagic78_xbl said in CBA progress:

    @bob_loblaw1984 said in CBA progress:

    @soonermagic78_xbl said in CBA progress:

    I just was told that the players rejected the offer with no counter offer. Don’t know what all has happened but it stinks

    Owners reportedly labeled it their “best and final offer.” That language does not invite a counter offer.

    Greedy jerks. This is so damaging to baseball.

    Yep there’s absolutely no limit to the insane contracts that can be given out in baseball. All of the contracts are guaranteed. There’s no salary cap. The qualifying offer is over $18 million. Last year teams spent something like 1.5 billion in new contracts.

    I fail to see how it’s the greed of the owners. Baseball players have it made compared to NFL and NBA.

    Here’s a little dose of reality, in 2019 the Kansas City Royals had profits that exceeded 251 million dollars. Do you have any clue what their payroll was. I’ll answer that, a little over 109 million. The owners of the royals pocketed 140 million in profits. With those profits the owners could’ve afforded two or three high priced free agents so what did they actually do. They decided to tank and slash payroll. Last year their payroll was under 90 million while revenue profits were well over 200 million. So tell me, who is greedy again? BTW, these profit totals only grow from here with the mid and large market teams.

    They had revenue of 251 million. Revenue is not the same as profit. You have no idea what their profit was or if they even had any.

    I guess you didn’t see where I made that correction in an earlier post.

    Except you didn’t.

    I guess you’re blind because my correction was made on the previous page when someone else made the exact same point you made. Please don’t make me embarrass you further!!!!

    Not really. The guy said he was correcting you but then said the same thing as you. You then agreed.

    The point is that you are conflating revenue and profit. They aren’t the same.

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    @dewrock_psn said in CBA progress:

    @killerpresence4 said in CBA progress:

    @dewrock_psn said in CBA progress:

    @killerpresence4 said in CBA progress:

    @dewrock_psn said in CBA progress:

    @killerpresence4 said in CBA progress:

    @dewrock_psn said in CBA progress:

    @soonermagic78_xbl said in CBA progress:

    @bob_loblaw1984 said in CBA progress:

    @soonermagic78_xbl said in CBA progress:

    I just was told that the players rejected the offer with no counter offer. Don’t know what all has happened but it stinks

    Owners reportedly labeled it their “best and final offer.” That language does not invite a counter offer.

    Greedy jerks. This is so damaging to baseball.

    Yep there’s absolutely no limit to the insane contracts that can be given out in baseball. All of the contracts are guaranteed. There’s no salary cap. The qualifying offer is over $18 million. Last year teams spent something like 1.5 billion in new contracts.

    I fail to see how it’s the greed of the owners. Baseball players have it made compared to NFL and NBA.

    Here’s a little dose of reality, in 2019 the Kansas City Royals had profits that exceeded 251 million dollars. Do you have any clue what their payroll was. I’ll answer that, a little over 109 million. The owners of the royals pocketed 140 million in profits. With those profits the owners could’ve afforded two or three high priced free agents so what did they actually do. They decided to tank and slash payroll. Last year their payroll was under 90 million while revenue profits were well over 200 million. So tell me, who is greedy again? BTW, these profit totals only grow from here with the mid and large market teams.

    They had revenue of 251 million. Revenue is not the same as profit. You have no idea what their profit was or if they even had any.

    I guess you didn’t see where I made that correction in an earlier post.

    Except you didn’t.

    I guess you’re blind because my correction was made on the previous page when someone else made the exact same point you made. Please don’t make me embarrass you further!!!!

    Not really. The guy said he was correcting you but then said the same thing as you. You then agreed.

    The point is that you are conflating revenue and profit. They aren’t the same.

    Ok kid let me explain this to you in terms you might understand, revenue is the total amount of incoming capital (money). Profit can best be described as the amount of revenue above and beyond the total operating cost of a given franchise also know as overhead. So the profit a franchise makes would be what the franchise has leftover after factoring in the overhead or total operating costs. Does this satisfy you? No? I really don’t give a [censored] then. Have a good day kid.

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    @killerpresence4 said in CBA progress:

    @dewrock_psn said in CBA progress:

    @killerpresence4 said in CBA progress:

    @dewrock_psn said in CBA progress:

    @killerpresence4 said in CBA progress:

    @dewrock_psn said in CBA progress:

    @killerpresence4 said in CBA progress:

    @dewrock_psn said in CBA progress:

    @soonermagic78_xbl said in CBA progress:

    @bob_loblaw1984 said in CBA progress:

    @soonermagic78_xbl said in CBA progress:

    I just was told that the players rejected the offer with no counter offer. Don’t know what all has happened but it stinks

    Owners reportedly labeled it their “best and final offer.” That language does not invite a counter offer.

    Greedy jerks. This is so damaging to baseball.

    Yep there’s absolutely no limit to the insane contracts that can be given out in baseball. All of the contracts are guaranteed. There’s no salary cap. The qualifying offer is over $18 million. Last year teams spent something like 1.5 billion in new contracts.

    I fail to see how it’s the greed of the owners. Baseball players have it made compared to NFL and NBA.

    Here’s a little dose of reality, in 2019 the Kansas City Royals had profits that exceeded 251 million dollars. Do you have any clue what their payroll was. I’ll answer that, a little over 109 million. The owners of the royals pocketed 140 million in profits. With those profits the owners could’ve afforded two or three high priced free agents so what did they actually do. They decided to tank and slash payroll. Last year their payroll was under 90 million while revenue profits were well over 200 million. So tell me, who is greedy again? BTW, these profit totals only grow from here with the mid and large market teams.

    They had revenue of 251 million. Revenue is not the same as profit. You have no idea what their profit was or if they even had any.

    I guess you didn’t see where I made that correction in an earlier post.

    Except you didn’t.

    I guess you’re blind because my correction was made on the previous page when someone else made the exact same point you made. Please don’t make me embarrass you further!!!!

    Not really. The guy said he was correcting you but then said the same thing as you. You then agreed.

    The point is that you are conflating revenue and profit. They aren’t the same.

    Ok kid let me explain this to you in terms you might understand, revenue is the total amount of incoming capital (money). Profit can best be described as the amount of revenue above and beyond the total operating cost of a given franchise also know as overhead. So the profit a franchise makes would be what the franchise has leftover after factoring in the overhead or total operating costs. Does this satisfy you? No? I really don’t give a [censored] then. Have a good day kid.

    I’m glad you understand. Now you know that the Royals didn’t have 251 million in profits. You also have no idea what their operating expenses were. Therefore you have no idea what their profits were and have no idea what the evil greedy owner was pocketing. And I’m not a kid so get bent.

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    @killerpresence4 said in CBA progress:

    @dewrock_psn said in CBA progress:

    @killerpresence4 said in CBA progress:

    @dewrock_psn said in CBA progress:

    @killerpresence4 said in CBA progress:

    @dewrock_psn said in CBA progress:

    @killerpresence4 said in CBA progress:

    @dewrock_psn said in CBA progress:

    @soonermagic78_xbl said in CBA progress:

    @bob_loblaw1984 said in CBA progress:

    @soonermagic78_xbl said in CBA progress:

    I just was told that the players rejected the offer with no counter offer. Don’t know what all has happened but it stinks

    Owners reportedly labeled it their “best and final offer.” That language does not invite a counter offer.

    Greedy jerks. This is so damaging to baseball.

    Yep there’s absolutely no limit to the insane contracts that can be given out in baseball. All of the contracts are guaranteed. There’s no salary cap. The qualifying offer is over $18 million. Last year teams spent something like 1.5 billion in new contracts.

    I fail to see how it’s the greed of the owners. Baseball players have it made compared to NFL and NBA.

    Here’s a little dose of reality, in 2019 the Kansas City Royals had profits that exceeded 251 million dollars. Do you have any clue what their payroll was. I’ll answer that, a little over 109 million. The owners of the royals pocketed 140 million in profits. With those profits the owners could’ve afforded two or three high priced free agents so what did they actually do. They decided to tank and slash payroll. Last year their payroll was under 90 million while revenue profits were well over 200 million. So tell me, who is greedy again? BTW, these profit totals only grow from here with the mid and large market teams.

    They had revenue of 251 million. Revenue is not the same as profit. You have no idea what their profit was or if they even had any.

    I guess you didn’t see where I made that correction in an earlier post.

    Except you didn’t.

    I guess you’re blind because my correction was made on the previous page when someone else made the exact same point you made. Please don’t make me embarrass you further!!!!

    Not really. The guy said he was correcting you but then said the same thing as you. You then agreed.

    The point is that you are conflating revenue and profit. They aren’t the same.

    Ok kid let me explain this to you in terms you might understand, revenue is the total amount of incoming capital (money). Profit can best be described as the amount of revenue above and beyond the total operating cost of a given franchise also know as overhead. So the profit a franchise makes would be what the franchise has leftover after factoring in the overhead or total operating costs. Does this satisfy you? No? I really don’t give a [censored] then. Have a good day kid. And for this dipshit this is the exact correction from a previous post.

    Yes you are correct I meant to say revenue as in final reported revenue from all streams that the club receives a share of. Sorry for the miscommunication.👍

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    @dewrock_psn said in CBA progress:

    @killerpresence4 said in CBA progress:

    @dewrock_psn said in CBA progress:

    @killerpresence4 said in CBA progress:

    @dewrock_psn said in CBA progress:

    @killerpresence4 said in CBA progress:

    @dewrock_psn said in CBA progress:

    @killerpresence4 said in CBA progress:

    @dewrock_psn said in CBA progress:

    @soonermagic78_xbl said in CBA progress:

    @bob_loblaw1984 said in CBA progress:

    @soonermagic78_xbl said in CBA progress:

    I just was told that the players rejected the offer with no counter offer. Don’t know what all has happened but it stinks

    Owners reportedly labeled it their “best and final offer.” That language does not invite a counter offer.

    Greedy jerks. This is so damaging to baseball.

    Yep there’s absolutely no limit to the insane contracts that can be given out in baseball. All of the contracts are guaranteed. There’s no salary cap. The qualifying offer is over $18 million. Last year teams spent something like 1.5 billion in new contracts.

    I fail to see how it’s the greed of the owners. Baseball players have it made compared to NFL and NBA.

    Here’s a little dose of reality, in 2019 the Kansas City Royals had profits that exceeded 251 million dollars. Do you have any clue what their payroll was. I’ll answer that, a little over 109 million. The owners of the royals pocketed 140 million in profits. With those profits the owners could’ve afforded two or three high priced free agents so what did they actually do. They decided to tank and slash payroll. Last year their payroll was under 90 million while revenue profits were well over 200 million. So tell me, who is greedy again? BTW, these profit totals only grow from here with the mid and large market teams.

    They had revenue of 251 million. Revenue is not the same as profit. You have no idea what their profit was or if they even had any.

    I guess you didn’t see where I made that correction in an earlier post.

    Except you didn’t.

    I guess you’re blind because my correction was made on the previous page when someone else made the exact same point you made. Please don’t make me embarrass you further!!!!

    Not really. The guy said he was correcting you but then said the same thing as you. You then agreed.

    The point is that you are conflating revenue and profit. They aren’t the same.

    Ok kid let me explain this to you in terms you might understand, revenue is the total amount of incoming capital (money). Profit can best be described as the amount of revenue above and beyond the total operating cost of a given franchise also know as overhead. So the profit a franchise makes would be what the franchise has leftover after factoring in the overhead or total operating costs. Does this satisfy you? No? I really don’t give a [censored] then. Have a good day kid.

    I’m glad you understand. Now you know that the Royals didn’t have 251 million in profits. You also have no idea what their operating expenses were. Therefore you have no idea what their profits were and have no idea what the evil greedy owner was pocketing. And I’m not a kid so get bent.

    Have a good day kid

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    @dewrock_psn said in CBA progress:

    @killerpresence4 said in CBA progress:

    @dewrock_psn said in CBA progress:

    @killerpresence4 said in CBA progress:

    @dewrock_psn said in CBA progress:

    @killerpresence4 said in CBA progress:

    @dewrock_psn said in CBA progress:

    @soonermagic78_xbl said in CBA progress:

    @bob_loblaw1984 said in CBA progress:

    @soonermagic78_xbl said in CBA progress:

    I just was told that the players rejected the offer with no counter offer. Don’t know what all has happened but it stinks

    Owners reportedly labeled it their “best and final offer.” That language does not invite a counter offer.

    Greedy jerks. This is so damaging to baseball.

    Yep there’s absolutely no limit to the insane contracts that can be given out in baseball. All of the contracts are guaranteed. There’s no salary cap. The qualifying offer is over $18 million. Last year teams spent something like 1.5 billion in new contracts.

    I fail to see how it’s the greed of the owners. Baseball players have it made compared to NFL and NBA.

    Here’s a little dose of reality, in 2019 the Kansas City Royals had profits that exceeded 251 million dollars. Do you have any clue what their payroll was. I’ll answer that, a little over 109 million. The owners of the royals pocketed 140 million in profits. With those profits the owners could’ve afforded two or three high priced free agents so what did they actually do. They decided to tank and slash payroll. Last year their payroll was under 90 million while revenue profits were well over 200 million. So tell me, who is greedy again? BTW, these profit totals only grow from here with the mid and large market teams.

    They had revenue of 251 million. Revenue is not the same as profit. You have no idea what their profit was or if they even had any.

    I guess you didn’t see where I made that correction in an earlier post.

    Except you didn’t.

    I guess you’re blind because my correction was made on the previous page when someone else made the exact same point you made. Please don’t make me embarrass you further!!!!

    Not really. The guy said he was correcting you but then said the same thing as you. You then agreed.

    The point is that you are conflating revenue and profit. They aren’t the same.

    And if you’re going to criticize my clearly rectified mistake then please use the correct terminology. I certainly didn’t “conflate” revenue and profits. If I had conflated the two I would have combined them. Instead I compared the two which is completely different than conflating the two.

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    You all need a puppy in your life... or a joint.....or a hug. Chill!!!!

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    #78

    Here is the fact, The two sides can not come to an agreement. Games have been canceled. If no agreement is made there will be no season this year.

    My opinion is the Owners need to give more and the players need to comprise with the owners, The owners are not going to give exactly what the players want. The players do not seem to be compromising with the owners. The owners have tried with multiple counter offers. Owners do not want to bend on the 18m the the players do not want to come down from what they are asking for. the two sides need to comprise this and meet somewhere in the middle for a season to happen.

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    This thread took a weird left turn.

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    90 minute meeting. No proposals. Talked about banning the shift. So another wasted day.

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    They better not ban the shift. Straight up taking the cowardly way out.

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