This was such a special moment.
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@kovz88_psn said in This was such a special moment.:
You can think the guy made a huge mistake and still feel bad for him. He clearly needed some help that he didn't get and it led to multiple families losing loved ones. Demonizing people like him is what leads to people not wanting to come forwards with their problems.
This is it. Well said
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@kommandernkeef9 said in This was such a special moment.:
@kovz88_psn said in This was such a special moment.:
You can think the guy made a huge mistake and still feel bad for him. He clearly needed some help that he didn't get and it led to multiple families losing loved ones. Demonizing people like him is what leads to people not wanting to come forwards with their problems.
This is it. Well said
For sure, He nailed it.
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@mrad2010_xbl said in This was such a special moment.:
Dee Gorgon hitting a lead off home run in Fernandez tribute to his passing. It was his first home run of the year and he said after it was a sign of Fernandez watching over him.
Also I know this has nothing to do with Diamond Dynasty but we’re all baseball fans here,right? Also Dee Gordon is awesome in the game too.
That was great nostalgia kind of the no hitter from the angels pitchers when Tyler Skagg past away.... baseball is awesome when emotion drive you on a positive way. Finally baseball is just awesome !
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@raienez_psn said in This was such a special moment.:
@mrad2010_xbl said in This was such a special moment.:
Dee Gorgon hitting a lead off home run in Fernandez tribute to his passing. It was his first home run of the year and he said after it was a sign of Fernandez watching over him.
Also I know this has nothing to do with Diamond Dynasty but we’re all baseball fans here,right? Also Dee Gordon is awesome in the game too.
That was great nostalgia kind of the no hitter from the angels pitchers when Tyler Skagg past away.... baseball is awesome when emotion drive you on a positive way. Finally baseball is just awesome !
Indeed my dude. Indeed
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@schwizzle_nizzle said in This was such a special moment.:
I'm happy for Dee, no sympathy from me regarding JF.
Yeah I get it. I was 7 when it happened. Obviously, he made the worst mistake possible. But he also grew up without money, and might not have been introduced to better values. No excuses, but have sympathy for the daughter and a possible HOF career
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@schwizzle_nizzle said in This was such a special moment.:
I'm happy for Dee, no sympathy from me regarding JF.
You’re such a hardo.
Act like you’ve never made a mistake before, like hmm let’s say have a couple drinks and get behind the wheel? We all have. Mistakes happen. Most live to learn and unfortunately they didn’t
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@jonblaze2424_psn said in This was such a special moment.:
@schwizzle_nizzle said in This was such a special moment.:
I'm happy for Dee, no sympathy from me regarding JF.
You’re such a hardo.
Act like you’ve never made a mistake before, like hmm let’s say have a couple drinks and get behind the wheel? We all have. Mistakes happen. Most live to learn and unfortunately they didn’t
Let’s not act like drinking and driving is something everyone does. I get your point but let’s not normalize that
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@jonblaze2424_psn said in This was such a special moment.:
@schwizzle_nizzle said in This was such a special moment.:
I'm happy for Dee, no sympathy from me regarding JF.
You’re such a hardo.
Act like you’ve never made a mistake before, like hmm let’s say have a couple drinks and get behind the wheel? We all have. Mistakes happen. Most live to learn and unfortunately they didn’t
True.
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@twisted-_-tea-_psn said in This was such a special moment.:
@jonblaze2424_psn said in This was such a special moment.:
@schwizzle_nizzle said in This was such a special moment.:
I'm happy for Dee, no sympathy from me regarding JF.
You’re such a hardo.
Act like you’ve never made a mistake before, like hmm let’s say have a couple drinks and get behind the wheel? We all have. Mistakes happen. Most live to learn and unfortunately they didn’t
Let’s not act like drinking and driving is something everyone does. I get your point but let’s not normalize that
Definitely not normalizing it, but i'd say its something that everyone has done once in their life. Point being JF made a mistake that quite a few people do and paid the ultimate price for it, to essentially look at him as a murderer is a little over-dramatic
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@mrad2010_xbl said in This was such a special moment.:
@jonblaze2424_psn said in This was such a special moment.:
@schwizzle_nizzle said in This was such a special moment.:
I'm happy for Dee, no sympathy from me regarding JF.
You’re such a hardo.
Act like you’ve never made a mistake before, like hmm let’s say have a couple drinks and get behind the wheel? We all have. Mistakes happen. Most live to learn and unfortunately they didn’t
True.
Except he actively made decisions in his life that were wrong and he could've prevented the death of two other men.I love how people normalize drinking and driving. I know you guys don't know me, but I have literally never drank and driven after. I'm a light weight at drinking anyways, having maybe one Desorono and coke, but I barely feel it. I've never liked drinking anyways, but anyone that drinks and drives needs to have their license revoked. My stupid cousin got drunk at a Twin Peaks watching the Astros in 2020, then ran a red light, got t-boned by someone and died at the scene. I f-ing despise drunk drivers.
F JF. He had all the potential to lead a good life but chose to be a P.O.S. Simple as that.
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@Schwizzle_Nizzle
I love how you start your post by saying we don't know you but then you act like you know everything about Jose Fernandez. Do you know if he was dealing with any type of issues? Do you know anything about his personal life?
Most of us on these forums I'm sure are still alive to this day because of luck when we did stupid [censored] instead of all of us never making a stupid mistake. Noone is saying to coddle the guy but he clearly needed help. -
@jonblaze2424_psn said in This was such a special moment.:
@twisted-_-tea-_psn said in This was such a special moment.:
@jonblaze2424_psn said in This was such a special moment.:
@schwizzle_nizzle said in This was such a special moment.:
I'm happy for Dee, no sympathy from me regarding JF.
You’re such a hardo.
Act like you’ve never made a mistake before, like hmm let’s say have a couple drinks and get behind the wheel? We all have. Mistakes happen. Most live to learn and unfortunately they didn’t
Let’s not act like drinking and driving is something everyone does. I get your point but let’s not normalize that
Definitely not normalizing it, but i'd say its something that everyone has done once in their life. Point being JF made a mistake that quite a few people do and paid the ultimate price for it, to essentially look at him as a murderer is a little over-dramatic
I’ve never driven drunk in my life. Also, the mistakes I’ve made in my life never killed anyone. If I did, I would deserve to be chastised by others just like people I knew in my personal life that have killer someone drunk driving.
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@RayLewisSB47_PSN
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@kovz88_psn said in This was such a special moment.:
@Schwizzle_Nizzle
I love how you start your post by saying we don't know you but then you act like you know everything about Jose Fernandez. Do you know if he was dealing with any type of issues? Do you know anything about his personal life?
Most of us on these forums I'm sure are still alive to this day because of luck when we did stupid [censored] instead of all of us never making a stupid mistake. Noone is saying to coddle the guy but he clearly needed help.Clearly his 'better than everyone' mindset is near impossible to argue with at this point. I understand everyone has their own opinions but for him to act like JF was a convicted serial child murderer might say more about him than it does JF
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@kovz88_psn said in This was such a special moment.:
@Schwizzle_Nizzle
I love how you start your post by saying we don't know you but then you act like you know everything about Jose Fernandez. Do you know if he was dealing with any type of issues? Do you know anything about his personal life?
Most of us on these forums I'm sure are still alive to this day because of luck when we did stupid [censored] instead of all of us never making a stupid mistake. Noone is saying to coddle the guy but he clearly needed help.I know as much as everyone else does. Nobody but his teammates and family knows his struggles that came out after his death.
He was still an adult and chose the wrong path. Many athletes do, but not many kill themselves and two others in a reckless act.
Yes, he needed help and he could've done something to fix it but he chose to be a selfish [censored].
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@kovz88_psn said in This was such a special moment.:
@RayLewisSB47_PSN
Chastised and punished, yes. Demonized and forgetting that they are human, no.Killers deserve to be demonized. If he was an average Joe drug addict, you wouldn’t feel this way. It’s only because he was good at baseball that you feel bad for him.
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@Schwizzle_Nizzle
I hope you or anyone you love ever deals with addiction because it's not being a selfish [censored] hole. It's being controlled by something that you are constantly fighting. Do you have any idea how hard it is to admit you have a problem and ask for help when there are people like you treating everyone that makes a tragic mistake a piece of [censored] ? -
@RayLewisSB47_PSN
Says the guy who idolizes a murderer. Also yes I would feel the same thing at about your "every day drug addict" this has to do with a disease not baseball skill -
@jonblaze2424_psn said in This was such a special moment.:
@twisted-_-tea-_psn said in This was such a special moment.:
@jonblaze2424_psn said in This was such a special moment.:
@schwizzle_nizzle said in This was such a special moment.:
I'm happy for Dee, no sympathy from me regarding JF.
You’re such a hardo.
Act like you’ve never made a mistake before, like hmm let’s say have a couple drinks and get behind the wheel? We all have. Mistakes happen. Most live to learn and unfortunately they didn’t
Let’s not act like drinking and driving is something everyone does. I get your point but let’s not normalize that
Definitely not normalizing it, but i'd say its something that everyone has done once in their life. Point being JF made a mistake that quite a few people do and paid the ultimate price for it, to essentially look at him as a murderer is a little over-dramatic
Just a super sad story man. I remember I pulled his diamond live series a few weeks after he died too
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@kovz88_psn said in This was such a special moment.:
@RayLewisSB47_PSN
Says the guy who idolizes a murderer. Also yes I would feel the same thing at about your "every day drug addict" this has to do with a disease not baseball skillYou can have sympathy all you want for them. It won’t last when they kill someone you care about. I wonder if you feel bad for serial killers that had rough upbringings or had drug/alcohol problems or rapists that were raped when they were younger. Stop making excuses for other people’s heinous actions. Tell the victim’s families that they should have sympathy for the person that killed their loved one because the drunk/drug addict had issues.
