Since We're Talking About Future Stars ... A 2018 Review
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When Future Stars were first introduced in 2017, they were described as a glimpse of the player 3 years into the future. Well, the future has more or less arrived for the Future Stars of 2018. Let's look and see if SDS was able to accurately predict a player's meteoric rise, or completely whiffed.
Missed so Bad, They're Not Even in the League:
Andrew Suarez (80)
Max Povse (80)
Sam Travis (80)
Fernando Romero (80)
Socrates Brito (81)
Dawel Lugo (81)
Stephen Gonsalves (82)
Dennis Santana (83)Giant Misses:
Andrew Stevenson (80) - This one makes me very sad.
Enyel De Los Santos (80)
Ryan Borucki (81)
Dustin Fowler (83)Don't Expect Much, Don't Get Much:
Victor Caratini (80)
Tomas Nido (81)
Jamie Barria (81)
Colin Moran (82)
Ronald Guzman (82)
Scott Kingery (83)Disappointing:
Joey Lucchesi (85)
Kolby Allard (85)
Francisco Mejia (85) -- ahhh, remember the good times?
Gleyber Torres (87)
Victor Robles (87)Accurate Prediction:
Jonathan Loaisiga (82)
Brett Phillips (82)
Mike Soroka (83)
Garrett Hampson (83)
Sandy Alcantara (83)
Jesse Winker (83)
Austin Hays (83)
Tyler O'Neill (85)
Willy Adames (85)
Kyle Tucker (86)
Michael Kopech (87) - https://mlb21.theshow.com/items/bae62bddc68200ea11b5c7bacbcb1682WAAAAYYYYYYY Undervalued:
Brandon Woodruff (82)
Shane Bieber (83)Kinda Undervalued, Even Still:
Shohei Ohtani (91) - https://mlb18.theshow.com/community_market/listings/30075-MLB_Card-shohei-ohtani
Ronald Acuna Jr (91) -https://mlb18.theshow.com/community_market/listings/29881-MLB_Card-ronald-acuna-jrThe Card We Never Got, Even Though SDS REALLY Wanted to release it:
Vlad Jr (Thanks a lot, Ross Atkins!) -
Not that it's not a miss, but Dustin Fowler has played for Pittsburgh this year
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I mean.. that's baseball man. And all sports really. Just especially in baseball.
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Why I hate future cards
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@macktastic-brad_xbl said in Since We're Talking About Future Stars ... A 2018 Review:
Why I hate future cards
Why? Do you still wake up at night thinking about how Joey Luchchesi didn't deserve a future star card in 2018? Or do you forget about it once the next game comes out?
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So about 1 in 3 future star cards pan out or exceed expectations.
Thats actually not that bad in reality
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@eatyum_psn said in Since We're Talking About Future Stars ... A 2018 Review:
Not that it's not a miss, but Dustin Fowler has played for Pittsburgh this year
You're right. He's got an LS card. Missed it during my search.
Will update.
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I like future cards but I do think they are rated too high, only a few should be diamond rated and prospect cards only a few gold.
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@cdnmoneymaker93_mlbts said in Since We're Talking About Future Stars ... A 2018 Review:
So about 1 in 3 future star cards pan out or exceed expectations.
Thats actually not that bad in reality
Ok. So if that's where we are at, why not have insanely juiced HOF cards too? Instead of some unrealistic projection of what a player that never played in the majors could be in three years, let's have a "what if Babe Ruth had 96 speed" card. What if Keith Hernandez never did cocaine card. Orlando Hernandez throwing from 15 different arm slots, but now he throws screwballs that break like a slider.
Let's just max out every single card so people never have to worry about DiVeRsItY ever again. Trevor Hoffman throwing 102 mph sinkers, Ted Williams as a switch hitter. Topps Now and Future Stars arent too far from that ridiculousness. I guess we should embrace it, max out every single card, and now everyone can have whatever lineup they want with no limitations.
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@eatyum_psn said in Since We're Talking About Future Stars ... A 2018 Review:
@macktastic-brad_xbl said in Since We're Talking About Future Stars ... A 2018 Review:
Why I hate future cards
Why? Do you still wake up at night thinking about how Joey Luchchesi didn't deserve a future star card in 2018? Or do you forget about it once the next game comes out?
No the fact they are not based on reality
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@poksey_mlbts said in Since We're Talking About Future Stars ... A 2018 Review:
@cdnmoneymaker93_mlbts said in Since We're Talking About Future Stars ... A 2018 Review:
So about 1 in 3 future star cards pan out or exceed expectations.
Thats actually not that bad in reality
Ok. So if that's where we are at, why not have insanely juiced HOF cards too? Instead of some unrealistic projection of what a player that never played in the majors could be in three years, let's have a "what if Babe Ruth had 96 speed" card. What if Keith Hernandez never did cocaine card. Orlando Hernandez throwing from 15 different arm slots, but now he throws screwballs that break like a slider.
Let's just max out every single card so people never have to worry about DiVeRsItY ever again. Trevor Hoffman throwing 102 mph sinkers, Ted Williams as a switch hitter. Topps Now and Future Stars arent too far from that ridiculousness. I guess we should embrace it, max out every single card, and now everyone can have whatever lineup they want with no limitations.
There are a whopping 3 Future stars cards that are used in ranked. 1 is winning the rookie of the year award, 1 is the number 1 prospect, and 1 legitimately has a glitched release. As much as people complained about topps now cards when Wendle and Grandal came out I've still seen more of George Brett. Lets not act like every lineup is full of them
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@the_dragon1912 said in Since We're Talking About Future Stars ... A 2018 Review:
@poksey_mlbts said in Since We're Talking About Future Stars ... A 2018 Review:
@cdnmoneymaker93_mlbts said in Since We're Talking About Future Stars ... A 2018 Review:
So about 1 in 3 future star cards pan out or exceed expectations.
Thats actually not that bad in reality
Ok. So if that's where we are at, why not have insanely juiced HOF cards too? Instead of some unrealistic projection of what a player that never played in the majors could be in three years, let's have a "what if Babe Ruth had 96 speed" card. What if Keith Hernandez never did cocaine card. Orlando Hernandez throwing from 15 different arm slots, but now he throws screwballs that break like a slider.
Let's just max out every single card so people never have to worry about DiVeRsItY ever again. Trevor Hoffman throwing 102 mph sinkers, Ted Williams as a switch hitter. Topps Now and Future Stars arent too far from that ridiculousness. I guess we should embrace it, max out every single card, and now everyone can have whatever lineup they want with no limitations.
There are a whopping 3 Future stars cards that are used in ranked. 1 is winning the rookie of the year award, 1 is the number 1 prospect, and 1 legitimately has a glitched release. As much as people complained about topps now cards when Wendle and Grandal came out I've still seen more of George Brett. Lets not act like every lineup is full of them
At least Topps now is based off of an actual performance these guys get cards for being hyped
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@macktastic-brad_xbl said in Since We're Talking About Future Stars ... A 2018 Review:
@the_dragon1912 said in Since We're Talking About Future Stars ... A 2018 Review:
@poksey_mlbts said in Since We're Talking About Future Stars ... A 2018 Review:
@cdnmoneymaker93_mlbts said in Since We're Talking About Future Stars ... A 2018 Review:
So about 1 in 3 future star cards pan out or exceed expectations.
Thats actually not that bad in reality
Ok. So if that's where we are at, why not have insanely juiced HOF cards too? Instead of some unrealistic projection of what a player that never played in the majors could be in three years, let's have a "what if Babe Ruth had 96 speed" card. What if Keith Hernandez never did cocaine card. Orlando Hernandez throwing from 15 different arm slots, but now he throws screwballs that break like a slider.
Let's just max out every single card so people never have to worry about DiVeRsItY ever again. Trevor Hoffman throwing 102 mph sinkers, Ted Williams as a switch hitter. Topps Now and Future Stars arent too far from that ridiculousness. I guess we should embrace it, max out every single card, and now everyone can have whatever lineup they want with no limitations.
There are a whopping 3 Future stars cards that are used in ranked. 1 is winning the rookie of the year award, 1 is the number 1 prospect, and 1 legitimately has a glitched release. As much as people complained about topps now cards when Wendle and Grandal came out I've still seen more of George Brett. Lets not act like every lineup is full of them
At least Topps now is based off of an actual performance these guys get cards for being hyped
Would you rather wait until Tork wins rookie of the year next year? Imo its not much different releasing him now
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@the_dragon1912 said in Since We're Talking About Future Stars ... A 2018 Review:
@macktastic-brad_xbl said in Since We're Talking About Future Stars ... A 2018 Review:
@the_dragon1912 said in Since We're Talking About Future Stars ... A 2018 Review:
@poksey_mlbts said in Since We're Talking About Future Stars ... A 2018 Review:
@cdnmoneymaker93_mlbts said in Since We're Talking About Future Stars ... A 2018 Review:
So about 1 in 3 future star cards pan out or exceed expectations.
Thats actually not that bad in reality
Ok. So if that's where we are at, why not have insanely juiced HOF cards too? Instead of some unrealistic projection of what a player that never played in the majors could be in three years, let's have a "what if Babe Ruth had 96 speed" card. What if Keith Hernandez never did cocaine card. Orlando Hernandez throwing from 15 different arm slots, but now he throws screwballs that break like a slider.
Let's just max out every single card so people never have to worry about DiVeRsItY ever again. Trevor Hoffman throwing 102 mph sinkers, Ted Williams as a switch hitter. Topps Now and Future Stars arent too far from that ridiculousness. I guess we should embrace it, max out every single card, and now everyone can have whatever lineup they want with no limitations.
There are a whopping 3 Future stars cards that are used in ranked. 1 is winning the rookie of the year award, 1 is the number 1 prospect, and 1 legitimately has a glitched release. As much as people complained about topps now cards when Wendle and Grandal came out I've still seen more of George Brett. Lets not act like every lineup is full of them
At least Topps now is based off of an actual performance these guys get cards for being hyped
Would you rather wait until Tork wins rookie of the year next year? Imo its not much different releasing him now
That would mean he actually accomplished something at the major league level first, so yeah waiting would be preferable.
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@poksey_mlbts said in Since We're Talking About Future Stars ... A 2018 Review:
@cdnmoneymaker93_mlbts said in Since We're Talking About Future Stars ... A 2018 Review:
So about 1 in 3 future star cards pan out or exceed expectations.
Thats actually not that bad in reality
Ok. So if that's where we are at, why not have insanely juiced HOF cards too? Instead of some unrealistic projection of what a player that never played in the majors could be in three years, let's have a "what if Babe Ruth had 96 speed" card. What if Keith Hernandez never did cocaine card. Orlando Hernandez throwing from 15 different arm slots, but now he throws screwballs that break like a slider.
Let's just max out every single card so people never have to worry about DiVeRsItY ever again. Trevor Hoffman throwing 102 mph sinkers, Ted Williams as a switch hitter. Topps Now and Future Stars arent too far from that ridiculousness. I guess we should embrace it, max out every single card, and now everyone can have whatever lineup they want with no limitations.
I mean this is all fantasy
Lets not pretend that Babe Ruth would be able to hit Jacob Degrome or Verlander.
There is this idea that a legend of the past can hang with today's stars it's not happening so FS just adds in to what is just on big What If mode
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@cdnmoneymaker93_mlbts said in Since We're Talking About Future Stars ... A 2018 Review:
@poksey_mlbts said in Since We're Talking About Future Stars ... A 2018 Review:
@cdnmoneymaker93_mlbts said in Since We're Talking About Future Stars ... A 2018 Review:
So about 1 in 3 future star cards pan out or exceed expectations.
Thats actually not that bad in reality
Ok. So if that's where we are at, why not have insanely juiced HOF cards too? Instead of some unrealistic projection of what a player that never played in the majors could be in three years, let's have a "what if Babe Ruth had 96 speed" card. What if Keith Hernandez never did cocaine card. Orlando Hernandez throwing from 15 different arm slots, but now he throws screwballs that break like a slider.
Let's just max out every single card so people never have to worry about DiVeRsItY ever again. Trevor Hoffman throwing 102 mph sinkers, Ted Williams as a switch hitter. Topps Now and Future Stars arent too far from that ridiculousness. I guess we should embrace it, max out every single card, and now everyone can have whatever lineup they want with no limitations.
I mean this is all fantasy
Lets not pretend that Babe Ruth would be able to hit Jacob Degrome or Verlander.
There is this idea that a legend of the past can hang with today's stars it's not happening so FS just adds in to what is just on big What If mode
I disagree. If Babe Ruth was alive today and played baseball he would crush. He wouldnt be able, nor would want to have the lifestyle he had 100 years ago. things are different now. His nutrition and exercise would be totally different and his knowledge and the people with knowledge around him would be totally different.
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@chuckclc_psn said in Since We're Talking About Future Stars ... A 2018 Review:
@cdnmoneymaker93_mlbts said in Since We're Talking About Future Stars ... A 2018 Review:
@poksey_mlbts said in Since We're Talking About Future Stars ... A 2018 Review:
@cdnmoneymaker93_mlbts said in Since We're Talking About Future Stars ... A 2018 Review:
So about 1 in 3 future star cards pan out or exceed expectations.
Thats actually not that bad in reality
Ok. So if that's where we are at, why not have insanely juiced HOF cards too? Instead of some unrealistic projection of what a player that never played in the majors could be in three years, let's have a "what if Babe Ruth had 96 speed" card. What if Keith Hernandez never did cocaine card. Orlando Hernandez throwing from 15 different arm slots, but now he throws screwballs that break like a slider.
Let's just max out every single card so people never have to worry about DiVeRsItY ever again. Trevor Hoffman throwing 102 mph sinkers, Ted Williams as a switch hitter. Topps Now and Future Stars arent too far from that ridiculousness. I guess we should embrace it, max out every single card, and now everyone can have whatever lineup they want with no limitations.
I mean this is all fantasy
Lets not pretend that Babe Ruth would be able to hit Jacob Degrome or Verlander.
There is this idea that a legend of the past can hang with today's stars it's not happening so FS just adds in to what is just on big What If mode
I disagree. If Babe Ruth was alive today and played baseball he would crush. He wouldnt be able, nor would want to have the lifestyle he had 100 years ago. things are different now. His nutrition and exercise would be totally different and his knowledge and the people with knowledge around him would be totally different.
Yeah. I dont understand how some people believe it would be impossible for older players to compete today. I suppose if you are talking about dropping them in for an at bat, they would struggle, but given any amount of time to adjust, they would still be elite players. Same as the pitchers from today. They wouldnt last back then, having to throw complete games every 4 days. I'm sure they would have to adjust to perform and stay healthy.
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@poksey_mlbts said in Since We're Talking About Future Stars ... A 2018 Review:
@chuckclc_psn said in Since We're Talking About Future Stars ... A 2018 Review:
@cdnmoneymaker93_mlbts said in Since We're Talking About Future Stars ... A 2018 Review:
@poksey_mlbts said in Since We're Talking About Future Stars ... A 2018 Review:
@cdnmoneymaker93_mlbts said in Since We're Talking About Future Stars ... A 2018 Review:
So about 1 in 3 future star cards pan out or exceed expectations.
Thats actually not that bad in reality
Ok. So if that's where we are at, why not have insanely juiced HOF cards too? Instead of some unrealistic projection of what a player that never played in the majors could be in three years, let's have a "what if Babe Ruth had 96 speed" card. What if Keith Hernandez never did cocaine card. Orlando Hernandez throwing from 15 different arm slots, but now he throws screwballs that break like a slider.
Let's just max out every single card so people never have to worry about DiVeRsItY ever again. Trevor Hoffman throwing 102 mph sinkers, Ted Williams as a switch hitter. Topps Now and Future Stars arent too far from that ridiculousness. I guess we should embrace it, max out every single card, and now everyone can have whatever lineup they want with no limitations.
I mean this is all fantasy
Lets not pretend that Babe Ruth would be able to hit Jacob Degrome or Verlander.
There is this idea that a legend of the past can hang with today's stars it's not happening so FS just adds in to what is just on big What If mode
I disagree. If Babe Ruth was alive today and played baseball he would crush. He wouldnt be able, nor would want to have the lifestyle he had 100 years ago. things are different now. His nutrition and exercise would be totally different and his knowledge and the people with knowledge around him would be totally different.
Yeah. I dont understand how some people believe it would be impossible for older players to compete today. I suppose if you are talking about dropping them in for an at bat, they would struggle, but given any amount of time to adjust, they would still be elite players. Same as the pitchers from today. They wouldnt last back then, having to throw complete games every 4 days. I'm sure they would have to adjust to perform and stay healthy.
Well said. Would definitely be different if someone was just dropped in for a short period of time. But if you grew up in that time, now or then, you would be fine.
Hell most players today if dropped in back then would be dead in a week, just from their ideals and beliefs, and their bodies never found because of the poor forensics, .
"Hey were is ole Mike Trout, we sent him back to 1920 in the time machine for a week but he never showed up to get transported back?" "Yeah he went 5-5 with 5 Homers in that first game but never showed up to the park day 2." "Heard he was shooting his mouth off about the way guys were treating people and disagreeing with some of the stuff going on back then." Think they might have caught up to him and (took care of him)."
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Future Stars cards have been around in real packs since 1980. It’s just hedging a bet, like draft pick cards or Rated Rookie cards or Diamond Kings.
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Also no one is touching in the point of how it helps grow the game as well. Besides the obvious top prospects guys a lot of these guys are players that most people wouldn’t know who they are before they get to the league. I think it’s kind of cool that I was excited for future star Tyler O’Neil a couple of years ago and now it’s even cooler to see him doing what he’s doing lately
