Ohtani is a 95+ diamond SDS
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@suntlacrimae50_psn said in Ohtani is a 95+ diamond SDS:
Yeah, giving him an OVR is not working. If it has to be like that, then it should be the average of his 2 OVR's. To lock his OVR to one or the other is dumb.
But nobody really saw this coming, so I'll give SDS half a mulligan on this one and hope they have a solution next year.
They easily pad and nerf certain players for market sake, if anyone deserve a courtesy buff it's Ohtani since he is doing something not seen in ages
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I have none of him, but it astounds me that people keep defending his rating.
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@doihearbossmusic said in Ohtani is a 95+ diamond SDS:
@go4stros25_psn said in Ohtani is a 95+ diamond SDS:
@charterbus_psn said in Ohtani is a 95+ diamond SDS:
@go4stros25_psn said in Ohtani is a 95+ diamond SDS:
@doihearbossmusic said in Ohtani is a 95+ diamond SDS:
@go4stros25_psn said in Ohtani is a 95+ diamond SDS:
He is a diamond, it's just that hitting attributes don't effect the overall of his live serie. For his live series to be a high diamond he would have to start pitching like degrom.
I think they have it right. Hes a high gold pitcher with a diamond bat.
Yes but that combination for the MORE than complete player he is needs to be a 90+ diamond
As a hitter alone his can hit for power, steal a bag and has a cannon arm.
Yes but being a great hitter doesn't justify an increase to his pitching attributes. what youre missing is that he is a diamond, his overall rating just doesn't reflect it. If hitting attributes effected pitchers overalls then every pitcher in the game would be silver, except ohtani, who would be diamond.
I don't know how else to explain it.
It’s fairly obvious his card should be interchangeable, you should be able to start him in the OF or on the Mound, and his overall should be a representation of what he does in both positions, not what he does 20% of the time he’s on the field.
I can agree with that. I'm not saying he isn't a Great baseball player. I'm just saying the way sds handled his live series is the reason he isn't a 90 overall card.
But let's all be honest, this isn't about everyone thinking ohtani is getting hosed by sds, or what position he should be. This is about selling him. They could make him a 90 tomorrow and he wouldn't be in anyone's lineup.
Don't move the goal posts and make it about selling him now lol
Hahaha fair enough
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He gets 5☆ every day... hnnnnngggg
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@abbyspapa_psn said in Ohtani is a 95+ diamond SDS:
Gonna keep saying it, it's pretty hilarious when SDS pushes two-way players in RTTS but can't make an accurate live series card for a REAL two-way player.
It really is comedy gold. You think they would push more of it. Don’t get it man
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How ⁹anyone can say they have one of the best players we've ever seen play baseball right and an 83 or 85 ovr while players like glaus and wanders have 97-99s is hilarity you all have to be trolling
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@charterbus_psn said in Ohtani is a 95+ diamond SDS:
@go4stros25_psn said in Ohtani is a 95+ diamond SDS:
@doihearbossmusic said in Ohtani is a 95+ diamond SDS:
@go4stros25_psn said in Ohtani is a 95+ diamond SDS:
He is a diamond, it's just that hitting attributes don't effect the overall of his live serie. For his live series to be a high diamond he would have to start pitching like degrom.
I think they have it right. Hes a high gold pitcher with a diamond bat.
Yes but that combination for the MORE than complete player he is needs to be a 90+ diamond
As a hitter alone his can hit for power, steal a bag and has a cannon arm.
Yes but being a great hitter doesn't justify an increase to his pitching attributes. what youre missing is that he is a diamond, his overall rating just doesn't reflect it. If hitting attributes effected pitchers overalls then every pitcher in the game would be silver, except ohtani, who would be diamond.
I don't know how else to explain it.
Of course you don’t know how to explain it, you’re comparing him to other baseball players and using the attributes in this game to do so.
He is NOT a starting pitcher.
He is NOT and outfielder.
He is BOTH.
He’s a pitcher that’s entering the HRD on merit, not as a gag for marketing, but as a league leader in the same category players like Bonds and McGuire dominated.No, that doesn’t make him a better pitcher, it makes him a better BASEBALL player, so his Overall BASEBALL rating…shouldn’t be held back by the fact nobody else can do what this guy is doing.
It’s fairly obvious his card should be interchangeable, you should be able to start him in the OF or on the Mound, and his overall should be a representation of what he does in both positions, not what he does 20% of the time he’s on the field.
I agree 100%!!!
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I get where you’re coming from but it’s simple and has already been said. His LS is a pitcher card so his ratings reflect him as a pitcher. Just the way the game is set up.
Who cares what his LS is anyway? The only reason you’d care is because you’re invested in him.
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@genopolanco_psn said in Ohtani is a 95+ diamond SDS:
I get where you’re coming from but it’s simple and has already been said. His LS is a pitcher card so his ratings reflect him as a pitcher. Just the way the game is set up.
Who cares what his LS is anyway? The only reason you’d care is because you’re invested in him.
It’s SDS’s game. They will do exactly as they please!
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@doihearbossmusic said in Ohtani is a 95+ diamond SDS:
@raylewissb47_psn said in Ohtani is a 95+ diamond SDS:
So how many Ohtani’s do you have?
LOL honestly, only 2. Not about stubs, Ohtani and Alex Reyes demand justice!
Stop worrying about the shiny icon in the top right corner. Just play the card with the attributes. 79 mondesi plays better than 98 David Justice. You heard it here first.
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@mjfc_363_psn said in Ohtani is a 95+ diamond SDS:
@genopolanco_psn said in Ohtani is a 95+ diamond SDS:
I get where you’re coming from but it’s simple and has already been said. His LS is a pitcher card so his ratings reflect him as a pitcher. Just the way the game is set up.
Who cares what his LS is anyway? The only reason you’d care is because you’re invested in him.
It’s SDS’s game. They will do exactly as they please!
If his ratings are unfair, please let me know what you think should be different? Otherwise the difference is literally just his overall rating which means nothing.
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@genopolanco_psn said in Ohtani is a 95+ diamond SDS:
I get where you’re coming from but it’s simple and has already been said. His LS is a pitcher card so his ratings reflect him as a pitcher. Just the way the game is set up.
Who cares what his LS is anyway? The only reason you’d care is because you’re invested in him.
That's kinda the point. Why is his LS card just a pitcher? He's not just a pitcher.
Silly me, but I thought LS cards reflect the current MLB season.
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@abbyspapa_psn said in Ohtani is a 95+ diamond SDS:
@genopolanco_psn said in Ohtani is a 95+ diamond SDS:
I get where you’re coming from but it’s simple and has already been said. His LS is a pitcher card so his ratings reflect him as a pitcher. Just the way the game is set up.
Who cares what his LS is anyway? The only reason you’d care is because you’re invested in him.
That's kinda the point. Why is his LS card just a pitcher? He's not just a pitcher.
Silly me, but I thought LS cards reflect the current MLB season.
️LS cards actually reflect a 3 year average with the current season having most weight. Which his card does reflect going by individual ratings. It just doesn’t translate to the overall. Which again means nothing and has no effect on how the card performs
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@genopolanco_psn said in Ohtani is a 95+ diamond SDS:
I get where you’re coming from but it’s simple and has already been said. His LS is a pitcher card so his ratings reflect him as a pitcher. Just the way the game is set up.
Who cares what his LS is anyway? The only reason you’d care is because you’re invested in him.
I think the point that is being made is that he isnt just a pitcher. He is a 2 way player. Considering that SDS made a big deal to hype up 2 way players for 21, you would think they would be able to reflect that in his live series card.
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@genopolanco_psn said in Ohtani is a 95+ diamond SDS:
I get where you’re coming from but it’s simple and has already been said. His LS is a pitcher card so his ratings reflect him as a pitcher. Just the way the game is set up.
Who cares what his LS is anyway? The only reason you’d care is because you’re invested in him.
I have one of him, sold the other about an hour ago...please explain how that is investing in him?
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@poksey_mlbts said in Ohtani is a 95+ diamond SDS:
@genopolanco_psn said in Ohtani is a 95+ diamond SDS:
I get where you’re coming from but it’s simple and has already been said. His LS is a pitcher card so his ratings reflect him as a pitcher. Just the way the game is set up.
Who cares what his LS is anyway? The only reason you’d care is because you’re invested in him.
I think the point that is being made is that he isnt just a pitcher. He is a 2 way player. Considering that SDS made a big deal to hype up 2 way players for 21, you would think they would be able to reflect that in his live series card.
They have it just doesn’t reflect his overall. Which does not effect how the card performs.
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@genopolanco_psn said in Ohtani is a 95+ diamond SDS:
@mjfc_363_psn said in Ohtani is a 95+ diamond SDS:
@genopolanco_psn said in Ohtani is a 95+ diamond SDS:
I get where you’re coming from but it’s simple and has already been said. His LS is a pitcher card so his ratings reflect him as a pitcher. Just the way the game is set up.
Who cares what his LS is anyway? The only reason you’d care is because you’re invested in him.
It’s SDS’s game. They will do exactly as they please!
If his ratings are unfair, please let me know what you think should be different? Otherwise the difference is literally just his overall rating which means nothing.
Precisely
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@go4stros25_psn said in Ohtani is a 95+ diamond SDS:
@charterbus_psn said in Ohtani is a 95+ diamond SDS:
@go4stros25_psn said in Ohtani is a 95+ diamond SDS:
@doihearbossmusic said in Ohtani is a 95+ diamond SDS:
@go4stros25_psn said in Ohtani is a 95+ diamond SDS:
He is a diamond, it's just that hitting attributes don't effect the overall of his live serie. For his live series to be a high diamond he would have to start pitching like degrom.
I think they have it right. Hes a high gold pitcher with a diamond bat.
Yes but that combination for the MORE than complete player he is needs to be a 90+ diamond
As a hitter alone his can hit for power, steal a bag and has a cannon arm.
Yes but being a great hitter doesn't justify an increase to his pitching attributes. what youre missing is that he is a diamond, his overall rating just doesn't reflect it. If hitting attributes effected pitchers overalls then every pitcher in the game would be silver, except ohtani, who would be diamond.
I don't know how else to explain it.
It’s fairly obvious his card should be interchangeable, you should be able to start him in the OF or on the Mound, and his overall should be a representation of what he does in both positions, not what he does 20% of the time he’s on the field.
I can agree with that. I'm not saying he isn't a Great baseball player. I'm just saying the way sds handled his live series is the reason he isn't a 90 overall card.
But let's all be honest, this isn't about everyone thinking ohtani is getting hosed by sds, or what position he should be. This is about selling him. They could make him a 90 tomorrow and he wouldn't be in anyone's lineup.
For sure some people want to make some stubs, but honestly everything I say about him is in regards to playing with him, and did play with him for a long time. In fact, Ohtani is the most paralleled card in the game if I’m not mistaken. And I think he’s more than usable now, on days with IE at +10-15 he 9s are nearing relief pitcher numbers.
I didn’t mean to come at you either, just the idea that the attributes for this guy need to make sense because SDS has an algorithm in place I find annoying. He doesn’t make sense, his WAR will probably never make sense either. I proudly watch EVERY major sport and the minor ones too, but I’ve never seen anyone do something like this. I wasn’t old enough to see Bo or Deion and actually comprehend what they were doing, maybe it’s just exciting for me, I dunno.
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I got 9 of him
