Ran into my first Cronus-Zen user
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@raesone_psn said in Ran into my first Cronus-Zen user:
@yankblan_psn said in Ran into my first Cronus-Zen user:
@raesone_psn said in Ran into my first Cronus-Zen user:
@raesone_psn said in Ran into my first Cronus-Zen user:
@yankblan_psn said in Ran into my first Cronus-Zen user:
@raesone_psn said in Ran into my first Cronus-Zen user:
@yankblan_psn said in Ran into my first Cronus-Zen user:
@raesone_psn said in Ran into my first Cronus-Zen user:
@yankblan_psn said in Ran into my first Cronus-Zen user:
@raesone_psn said in Ran into my first Cronus-Zen user:
@yankblan_psn said in Ran into my first Cronus-Zen user:
@raesone_psn said in Ran into my first Cronus-Zen user:
@yankblan_psn said in Ran into my first Cronus-Zen user:
@raesone_psn said in Ran into my first Cronus-Zen user:
@yankblan_psn said in Ran into my first Cronus-Zen user:
@raesone_psn said in Ran into my first Cronus-Zen user:
@chuckclc_psn said in Ran into my first Cronus-Zen user:
Sigh.... Our records dont show for the last few years. At least post something if you are gonna cry wolf. A video or pic of said accusation. You should know how to report by now.
Did you see the pic I posted the other day? Played a guy who hit 11 corners on 11 pitchers with rookie Chapman who has 0 control lol. I used to not buy the hype but I've turned around my opinion, this stuff is a problem.
That pic proved absolutely nothing; Zen doesn’t improve control, only input
Correct, it doesn't prove anything. Where is your proof to back up what you're saying?
I mean, the ball placements are not egregious; they’re around the corners but not that close for most of them.
There are dozens of Zen videos; they control the input at the controller level, they do not rewrite the game code. Add in the fact that the game is very forgiving with input being perfect and it’s not hard to imagine you got beat by someone who’s really good at it.
Okay so you have no proof either. Could've just said so and save us all some time.
You’re the one who made the accusation without providing any evidence for anything other than being a sore loser. The game is flawed and these happen, but it’s not even worth raising an eyebrow.
So scroll along and hush then.
I know condescension is your game, but don’t tell me to hush, it’s an open forum. You have to expect push back if you’re going to dish it out yourself, which you do quite a bit. Have a nice day, exchange over
You said it wasn't worth raising an eyebrow so I'm telling you not to and ignore me altogether. I will say whatever I want because like you said so yourself, this is an open forum and that doesn't apply to just you.
Never questioned your right to say whatever, just to expect being challenged. Also the eyebrow thing was in relation to your picture; I expected something revealing and all I could think was « what I’m a looking at? That’s it? Nothing fishy here… »
Let me challenge you then, go into a game and use rookie Chapman then throw 10 pitches on the corners like in the screenshot I shared. If you can do that I'll apologize and personally bring you flowers and chocolate.
I’m not saying I could get 10/10 perfect, probably 7-8, maybe 9 if I’m in the zone. But that doesn’t change the fact that Zen doesn’t change the PAR size, and it’s an external device that programs perfect input. Without access to the game’s coding, you can’t do that. What it CAN do, is with being perfect over and over, then the pitches’ blue bar and confidence will fill up and shrink the PAR a bit. It’s not hard to imagine someone doing it; heck when I run into great players and they hit any pitch a foot outside out of the park, that is impressive. PPP is incredibly easy to master compared to hitting.
I'll tell you what, I'll lower it to 3 so you can pick 3 corners you'd like. That's less than 33% of what my opponent did given that he threw 11 pitches. You can pick your favorite corner yourself, whichever you're most comfortable/accurate throwing it. So 3 pitches compared to the 11 I witnessed. Show me you can and I'll eat my words.
So @yankblan_PSN are you accepting the challenge or are you gonna fold? Make no mistake, I know EXACTLY what I'm asking you to do; it's practically impossible. I live in BR and I'm a very capable pinpoint pitcher, I draft Rookie Chapman whenever he shows up. I know exactly how hard it is to locate with him.
I guarantee you, you will not spot 3 perfect pitches in a row. My opponent spotted 10 out 11 perfectly. Once you let that sink in and try it for yourself, then maybe JUST MAYBE you start looking at my thread from different point of view.
So go ahead, please prove me wrong.
So, you said practically yourself, and have you seen the size of his PAR? It’s minuscule relative to his attributes, it should be way bigger. His fastball is easy to locate, slider still pretty easy; only his changeup is so-so. You expect me to throw in 1,500 stubs and forfeit until I get to draft him? You do realize with PAR being RNG, I could locate his change perfectly one game and not at all the next? I’m pretty sure the 2 that have missed the zone were changeups. You should have at least labeled the pitch types in your pic. 8-9 pitches were either fastballs or sliders.
Edit:Would you accept it if I try it in RS on AS, like BR is?
They were mostly fastballs so his easiest pitch to locate. I would accept it if you tried it in RS, yes. But I wanna remind you again that you have to be 3 for 3, so if you miss once you fail. Or you can do 10 out of 11 and you can miss once, like my opponent did with that pitch below the zone. I'll leave that up to you.
That pitch below the zone was most likely a purpose pitch.
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@d_e_m_i_s_e_psn said in Ran into my first Cronus-Zen user:
@raesone_psn said in Ran into my first Cronus-Zen user:
@yankblan_psn said in Ran into my first Cronus-Zen user:
@raesone_psn said in Ran into my first Cronus-Zen user:
@raesone_psn said in Ran into my first Cronus-Zen user:
@yankblan_psn said in Ran into my first Cronus-Zen user:
@raesone_psn said in Ran into my first Cronus-Zen user:
@yankblan_psn said in Ran into my first Cronus-Zen user:
@raesone_psn said in Ran into my first Cronus-Zen user:
@yankblan_psn said in Ran into my first Cronus-Zen user:
@raesone_psn said in Ran into my first Cronus-Zen user:
@yankblan_psn said in Ran into my first Cronus-Zen user:
@raesone_psn said in Ran into my first Cronus-Zen user:
@yankblan_psn said in Ran into my first Cronus-Zen user:
@raesone_psn said in Ran into my first Cronus-Zen user:
@yankblan_psn said in Ran into my first Cronus-Zen user:
@raesone_psn said in Ran into my first Cronus-Zen user:
@chuckclc_psn said in Ran into my first Cronus-Zen user:
Sigh.... Our records dont show for the last few years. At least post something if you are gonna cry wolf. A video or pic of said accusation. You should know how to report by now.
Did you see the pic I posted the other day? Played a guy who hit 11 corners on 11 pitchers with rookie Chapman who has 0 control lol. I used to not buy the hype but I've turned around my opinion, this stuff is a problem.
That pic proved absolutely nothing; Zen doesn’t improve control, only input
Correct, it doesn't prove anything. Where is your proof to back up what you're saying?
I mean, the ball placements are not egregious; they’re around the corners but not that close for most of them.
There are dozens of Zen videos; they control the input at the controller level, they do not rewrite the game code. Add in the fact that the game is very forgiving with input being perfect and it’s not hard to imagine you got beat by someone who’s really good at it.
Okay so you have no proof either. Could've just said so and save us all some time.
You’re the one who made the accusation without providing any evidence for anything other than being a sore loser. The game is flawed and these happen, but it’s not even worth raising an eyebrow.
So scroll along and hush then.
I know condescension is your game, but don’t tell me to hush, it’s an open forum. You have to expect push back if you’re going to dish it out yourself, which you do quite a bit. Have a nice day, exchange over
You said it wasn't worth raising an eyebrow so I'm telling you not to and ignore me altogether. I will say whatever I want because like you said so yourself, this is an open forum and that doesn't apply to just you.
Never questioned your right to say whatever, just to expect being challenged. Also the eyebrow thing was in relation to your picture; I expected something revealing and all I could think was « what I’m a looking at? That’s it? Nothing fishy here… »
Let me challenge you then, go into a game and use rookie Chapman then throw 10 pitches on the corners like in the screenshot I shared. If you can do that I'll apologize and personally bring you flowers and chocolate.
I’m not saying I could get 10/10 perfect, probably 7-8, maybe 9 if I’m in the zone. But that doesn’t change the fact that Zen doesn’t change the PAR size, and it’s an external device that programs perfect input. Without access to the game’s coding, you can’t do that. What it CAN do, is with being perfect over and over, then the pitches’ blue bar and confidence will fill up and shrink the PAR a bit. It’s not hard to imagine someone doing it; heck when I run into great players and they hit any pitch a foot outside out of the park, that is impressive. PPP is incredibly easy to master compared to hitting.
I'll tell you what, I'll lower it to 3 so you can pick 3 corners you'd like. That's less than 33% of what my opponent did given that he threw 11 pitches. You can pick your favorite corner yourself, whichever you're most comfortable/accurate throwing it. So 3 pitches compared to the 11 I witnessed. Show me you can and I'll eat my words.
So @yankblan_PSN are you accepting the challenge or are you gonna fold? Make no mistake, I know EXACTLY what I'm asking you to do; it's practically impossible. I live in BR and I'm a very capable pinpoint pitcher, I draft Rookie Chapman whenever he shows up. I know exactly how hard it is to locate with him.
I guarantee you, you will not spot 3 perfect pitches in a row. My opponent spotted 10 out 11 perfectly. Once you let that sink in and try it for yourself, then maybe JUST MAYBE you start looking at my thread from different point of view.
So go ahead, please prove me wrong.
So, you said practically yourself, and have you seen the size of his PAR? It’s minuscule relative to his attributes, it should be way bigger. His fastball is easy to locate, slider still pretty easy; only his changeup is so-so. You expect me to throw in 1,500 stubs and forfeit until I get to draft him? You do realize with PAR being RNG, I could locate his change perfectly one game and not at all the next? I’m pretty sure the 2 that have missed the zone were changeups. You should have at least labeled the pitch types in your pic. 8-9 pitches were either fastballs or sliders.
Edit:Would you accept it if I try it in RS on AS, like BR is?
They were mostly fastballs so his easiest pitch to locate. I would accept it if you tried it in RS, yes. But I wanna remind you again that you have to be 3 for 3, so if you miss once you fail. Or you can do 10 out of 11 and you can miss once, like my opponent did with that pitch below the zone. I'll leave that up to you.
That pitch below the zone was most likely a purpose pitch.
Maybe so, idk. Keep in mind that I also only shared Chapman's pitches because he has such terrible control which made it so odd. The other 2 innings with other pitchers were identical.
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@king_harambe_ said in Ran into my first Cronus-Zen user:
Here's an idea...How about you just get better at the game...Instead of crying about getting whooped lmao.
Unlike you, I play for fun, I don't need to 'massage my ego' or validate myself worth with a video game record.
Playing someone that could be using a device that helps cheat is not fun.
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@d_e_m_i_s_e_psn said in Ran into my first Cronus-Zen user:
@raesone_psn said in Ran into my first Cronus-Zen user:
@yankblan_psn said in Ran into my first Cronus-Zen user:
@raesone_psn said in Ran into my first Cronus-Zen user:
@raesone_psn said in Ran into my first Cronus-Zen user:
@yankblan_psn said in Ran into my first Cronus-Zen user:
@raesone_psn said in Ran into my first Cronus-Zen user:
@yankblan_psn said in Ran into my first Cronus-Zen user:
@raesone_psn said in Ran into my first Cronus-Zen user:
@yankblan_psn said in Ran into my first Cronus-Zen user:
@raesone_psn said in Ran into my first Cronus-Zen user:
@yankblan_psn said in Ran into my first Cronus-Zen user:
@raesone_psn said in Ran into my first Cronus-Zen user:
@yankblan_psn said in Ran into my first Cronus-Zen user:
@raesone_psn said in Ran into my first Cronus-Zen user:
@yankblan_psn said in Ran into my first Cronus-Zen user:
@raesone_psn said in Ran into my first Cronus-Zen user:
@chuckclc_psn said in Ran into my first Cronus-Zen user:
Sigh.... Our records dont show for the last few years. At least post something if you are gonna cry wolf. A video or pic of said accusation. You should know how to report by now.
Did you see the pic I posted the other day? Played a guy who hit 11 corners on 11 pitchers with rookie Chapman who has 0 control lol. I used to not buy the hype but I've turned around my opinion, this stuff is a problem.
That pic proved absolutely nothing; Zen doesn’t improve control, only input
Correct, it doesn't prove anything. Where is your proof to back up what you're saying?
I mean, the ball placements are not egregious; they’re around the corners but not that close for most of them.
There are dozens of Zen videos; they control the input at the controller level, they do not rewrite the game code. Add in the fact that the game is very forgiving with input being perfect and it’s not hard to imagine you got beat by someone who’s really good at it.
Okay so you have no proof either. Could've just said so and save us all some time.
You’re the one who made the accusation without providing any evidence for anything other than being a sore loser. The game is flawed and these happen, but it’s not even worth raising an eyebrow.
So scroll along and hush then.
I know condescension is your game, but don’t tell me to hush, it’s an open forum. You have to expect push back if you’re going to dish it out yourself, which you do quite a bit. Have a nice day, exchange over
You said it wasn't worth raising an eyebrow so I'm telling you not to and ignore me altogether. I will say whatever I want because like you said so yourself, this is an open forum and that doesn't apply to just you.
Never questioned your right to say whatever, just to expect being challenged. Also the eyebrow thing was in relation to your picture; I expected something revealing and all I could think was « what I’m a looking at? That’s it? Nothing fishy here… »
Let me challenge you then, go into a game and use rookie Chapman then throw 10 pitches on the corners like in the screenshot I shared. If you can do that I'll apologize and personally bring you flowers and chocolate.
I’m not saying I could get 10/10 perfect, probably 7-8, maybe 9 if I’m in the zone. But that doesn’t change the fact that Zen doesn’t change the PAR size, and it’s an external device that programs perfect input. Without access to the game’s coding, you can’t do that. What it CAN do, is with being perfect over and over, then the pitches’ blue bar and confidence will fill up and shrink the PAR a bit. It’s not hard to imagine someone doing it; heck when I run into great players and they hit any pitch a foot outside out of the park, that is impressive. PPP is incredibly easy to master compared to hitting.
I'll tell you what, I'll lower it to 3 so you can pick 3 corners you'd like. That's less than 33% of what my opponent did given that he threw 11 pitches. You can pick your favorite corner yourself, whichever you're most comfortable/accurate throwing it. So 3 pitches compared to the 11 I witnessed. Show me you can and I'll eat my words.
So @yankblan_PSN are you accepting the challenge or are you gonna fold? Make no mistake, I know EXACTLY what I'm asking you to do; it's practically impossible. I live in BR and I'm a very capable pinpoint pitcher, I draft Rookie Chapman whenever he shows up. I know exactly how hard it is to locate with him.
I guarantee you, you will not spot 3 perfect pitches in a row. My opponent spotted 10 out 11 perfectly. Once you let that sink in and try it for yourself, then maybe JUST MAYBE you start looking at my thread from different point of view.
So go ahead, please prove me wrong.
So, you said practically yourself, and have you seen the size of his PAR? It’s minuscule relative to his attributes, it should be way bigger. His fastball is easy to locate, slider still pretty easy; only his changeup is so-so. You expect me to throw in 1,500 stubs and forfeit until I get to draft him? You do realize with PAR being RNG, I could locate his change perfectly one game and not at all the next? I’m pretty sure the 2 that have missed the zone were changeups. You should have at least labeled the pitch types in your pic. 8-9 pitches were either fastballs or sliders.
Edit:Would you accept it if I try it in RS on AS, like BR is?
They were mostly fastballs so his easiest pitch to locate. I would accept it if you tried it in RS, yes. But I wanna remind you again that you have to be 3 for 3, so if you miss once you fail. Or you can do 10 out of 11 and you can miss once, like my opponent did with that pitch below the zone. I'll leave that up to you.
That pitch below the zone was most likely a purpose pitch.
Yeah, kind of easy to explain anything away that doesn’t meet the narrative… it’s in the game for sure, but this instance, on a small sample and one pitch being way off, isn’t proof, not even close.
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@dino-might_not said in Ran into my first Cronus-Zen user:
I gonna be the honorary boomer on his thread- what the heck is Zen?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tQH8ROvDsbg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xPdU11VgBys
Those are just to name a couple.
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@dino-might_not said in Ran into my first Cronus-Zen user:
I gonna be the honorary boomer on his thread- what the heck is Zen?
It’s a state of understanding your mind and body to feel peaceful and relaxed; influenced by Tao philosophy.
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So is this Zen Xbox only, or is it usable on the PS systems, I ask cause I don't remember any talk of this last year and since this is the first time Xbox players are playing now its a problem.
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@thaghettoblasta said in Ran into my first Cronus-Zen user:
@dino-might_not said in Ran into my first Cronus-Zen user:
I gonna be the honorary boomer on his thread- what the heck is Zen?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tQH8ROvDsbg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xPdU11VgBys
Those are just to name a couple.
The first video is a guy taking BP on rookie and still sucking and the 2nd is a guy talking [censored] about people using a zen.....
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@diddyklunk_psn said in Ran into my first Cronus-Zen user:
So is this Zen Xbox only, or is it usable on the PS systems, I ask cause I don't remember any talk of this last year and since this is the first time Xbox players are playing now its a problem.
It's across all systems. Zen has been around for years. MLBTS never had a script written for it until this year.
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@allday9128_psn said in Ran into my first Cronus-Zen user:
@thaghettoblasta said in Ran into my first Cronus-Zen user:
@dino-might_not said in Ran into my first Cronus-Zen user:
I gonna be the honorary boomer on his thread- what the heck is Zen?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tQH8ROvDsbg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xPdU11VgBys
Those are just to name a couple.
The first video is a guy taking BP on rookie and still sucking and the 2nd is a guy talking [censored] about people using a zen.....
Just search Cronus Zen MLB 21 and you'll find the rest of the videos. There is litteraly the guy who writes the scripts giving tutorials how to use it.
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@thaghettoblasta said in Ran into my first Cronus-Zen user:
@diddyklunk_psn said in Ran into my first Cronus-Zen user:
So is this Zen Xbox only, or is it usable on the PS systems, I ask cause I don't remember any talk of this last year and since this is the first time Xbox players are playing now its a problem.
It's across all systems. Zen has been around for years. MLBTS never had a script written for it until this year.
ohh okay makes more sense. I was just confused on why this wasn't a thing last year. Thank you.
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@yankblan_psn said in Ran into my first Cronus-Zen user:
@d_e_m_i_s_e_psn said in Ran into my first Cronus-Zen user:
@raesone_psn said in Ran into my first Cronus-Zen user:
@yankblan_psn said in Ran into my first Cronus-Zen user:
@raesone_psn said in Ran into my first Cronus-Zen user:
@raesone_psn said in Ran into my first Cronus-Zen user:
@yankblan_psn said in Ran into my first Cronus-Zen user:
@raesone_psn said in Ran into my first Cronus-Zen user:
@yankblan_psn said in Ran into my first Cronus-Zen user:
@raesone_psn said in Ran into my first Cronus-Zen user:
@yankblan_psn said in Ran into my first Cronus-Zen user:
@raesone_psn said in Ran into my first Cronus-Zen user:
@yankblan_psn said in Ran into my first Cronus-Zen user:
@raesone_psn said in Ran into my first Cronus-Zen user:
@yankblan_psn said in Ran into my first Cronus-Zen user:
@raesone_psn said in Ran into my first Cronus-Zen user:
@yankblan_psn said in Ran into my first Cronus-Zen user:
@raesone_psn said in Ran into my first Cronus-Zen user:
@chuckclc_psn said in Ran into my first Cronus-Zen user:
Sigh.... Our records dont show for the last few years. At least post something if you are gonna cry wolf. A video or pic of said accusation. You should know how to report by now.
Did you see the pic I posted the other day? Played a guy who hit 11 corners on 11 pitchers with rookie Chapman who has 0 control lol. I used to not buy the hype but I've turned around my opinion, this stuff is a problem.
That pic proved absolutely nothing; Zen doesn’t improve control, only input
Correct, it doesn't prove anything. Where is your proof to back up what you're saying?
I mean, the ball placements are not egregious; they’re around the corners but not that close for most of them.
There are dozens of Zen videos; they control the input at the controller level, they do not rewrite the game code. Add in the fact that the game is very forgiving with input being perfect and it’s not hard to imagine you got beat by someone who’s really good at it.
Okay so you have no proof either. Could've just said so and save us all some time.
You’re the one who made the accusation without providing any evidence for anything other than being a sore loser. The game is flawed and these happen, but it’s not even worth raising an eyebrow.
So scroll along and hush then.
I know condescension is your game, but don’t tell me to hush, it’s an open forum. You have to expect push back if you’re going to dish it out yourself, which you do quite a bit. Have a nice day, exchange over
You said it wasn't worth raising an eyebrow so I'm telling you not to and ignore me altogether. I will say whatever I want because like you said so yourself, this is an open forum and that doesn't apply to just you.
Never questioned your right to say whatever, just to expect being challenged. Also the eyebrow thing was in relation to your picture; I expected something revealing and all I could think was « what I’m a looking at? That’s it? Nothing fishy here… »
Let me challenge you then, go into a game and use rookie Chapman then throw 10 pitches on the corners like in the screenshot I shared. If you can do that I'll apologize and personally bring you flowers and chocolate.
I’m not saying I could get 10/10 perfect, probably 7-8, maybe 9 if I’m in the zone. But that doesn’t change the fact that Zen doesn’t change the PAR size, and it’s an external device that programs perfect input. Without access to the game’s coding, you can’t do that. What it CAN do, is with being perfect over and over, then the pitches’ blue bar and confidence will fill up and shrink the PAR a bit. It’s not hard to imagine someone doing it; heck when I run into great players and they hit any pitch a foot outside out of the park, that is impressive. PPP is incredibly easy to master compared to hitting.
I'll tell you what, I'll lower it to 3 so you can pick 3 corners you'd like. That's less than 33% of what my opponent did given that he threw 11 pitches. You can pick your favorite corner yourself, whichever you're most comfortable/accurate throwing it. So 3 pitches compared to the 11 I witnessed. Show me you can and I'll eat my words.
So @yankblan_PSN are you accepting the challenge or are you gonna fold? Make no mistake, I know EXACTLY what I'm asking you to do; it's practically impossible. I live in BR and I'm a very capable pinpoint pitcher, I draft Rookie Chapman whenever he shows up. I know exactly how hard it is to locate with him.
I guarantee you, you will not spot 3 perfect pitches in a row. My opponent spotted 10 out 11 perfectly. Once you let that sink in and try it for yourself, then maybe JUST MAYBE you start looking at my thread from different point of view.
So go ahead, please prove me wrong.
So, you said practically yourself, and have you seen the size of his PAR? It’s minuscule relative to his attributes, it should be way bigger. His fastball is easy to locate, slider still pretty easy; only his changeup is so-so. You expect me to throw in 1,500 stubs and forfeit until I get to draft him? You do realize with PAR being RNG, I could locate his change perfectly one game and not at all the next? I’m pretty sure the 2 that have missed the zone were changeups. You should have at least labeled the pitch types in your pic. 8-9 pitches were either fastballs or sliders.
Edit:Would you accept it if I try it in RS on AS, like BR is?
They were mostly fastballs so his easiest pitch to locate. I would accept it if you tried it in RS, yes. But I wanna remind you again that you have to be 3 for 3, so if you miss once you fail. Or you can do 10 out of 11 and you can miss once, like my opponent did with that pitch below the zone. I'll leave that up to you.
That pitch below the zone was most likely a purpose pitch.
Yeah, kind of easy to explain anything away that doesn’t meet the narrative… it’s in the game for sure, but this instance, on a small sample and one pitch being way off, isn’t proof, not even close.
How's it going with the Chapman project? Any progress yet?
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@thaghettoblasta said in Ran into my first Cronus-Zen user:
@diddyklunk_psn said in Ran into my first Cronus-Zen user:
So is this Zen Xbox only, or is it usable on the PS systems, I ask cause I don't remember any talk of this last year and since this is the first time Xbox players are playing now its a problem.
It's across all systems. Zen has been around for years. MLBTS never had a script written for it until this year.
MLB never had anything that could be scripted before this year. With Pinpoint pitching you can script the code, but it’s still not perfect, and it doesn’t in anyways override the coding of PAR.
Just an easy excuse, and like every other non existent issue now it’s apparently everywhere lmao.
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Why don’t you guys just buy one yourself and try it out? Assuming and calling people out off suspicion isn’t going to do anything. It needs to be exposed HEAVILY for anything to actually be done.
I still don’t really see why it’s an issue. You can still perfect/perfect pitches on the black. And using a Zen to hit, you still have to time it. If you’re only good at pitching because you dot the black, then you still have a lot of room to improve.
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@x814xmafia_psn said in Ran into my first Cronus-Zen user:
@king_harambe_ said in Ran into my first Cronus-Zen user:
Here's an idea...How about you just get better at the game...Instead of crying about getting whooped lmao.
Unlike you, I play for fun, I don't need to 'massage my ego' or validate myself worth with a video game record.
Playing someone that could be using a device that helps cheat is not fun.
Yeah, you're just bad. Get better? You're welcome.
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@king_harambe_ said in Ran into my first Cronus-Zen user:
@x814xmafia_psn said in Ran into my first Cronus-Zen user:
@king_harambe_ said in Ran into my first Cronus-Zen user:
Here's an idea...How about you just get better at the game...Instead of crying about getting whooped lmao.
Unlike you, I play for fun, I don't need to 'massage my ego' or validate myself worth with a video game record.
Playing someone that could be using a device that helps cheat is not fun.
Yeah, you're just bad. Get better? You're welcome.
Yeah, you're blocked. YOU'RE welcome.
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@thaghettoblasta said in Ran into my first Cronus-Zen user:
@allday9128_psn said in Ran into my first Cronus-Zen user:
@thaghettoblasta said in Ran into my first Cronus-Zen user:
@dino-might_not said in Ran into my first Cronus-Zen user:
I gonna be the honorary boomer on his thread- what the heck is Zen?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tQH8ROvDsbg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xPdU11VgBys
Those are just to name a couple.
The first video is a guy taking BP on rookie and still sucking and the 2nd is a guy talking [censored] about people using a zen.....
Just search Cronus Zen MLB 21 and you'll find the rest of the videos. There is litteraly the guy who writes the scripts giving tutorials how to use it.
If it’s clear you don’t even watch the videos you are using to support your case, nobody needs to search anything but yourself.
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Sigh.... Our records dont show for the last few years. At least post something if you are gonna cry wolf. A video or pic of said accusation. You should know how to report by now.
Did you see the pic I posted the other day? Played a guy who hit 11 corners on 11 pitchers with rookie Chapman who has 0 control lol. I used to not buy the hype but I've turned around my opinion, this stuff is a problem.
That pic proved absolutely nothing; Zen doesn’t improve control, only input
Correct, it doesn't prove anything. Where is your proof to back up what you're saying?
I mean, the ball placements are not egregious; they’re around the corners but not that close for most of them.
There are dozens of Zen videos; they control the input at the controller level, they do not rewrite the game code. Add in the fact that the game is very forgiving with input being perfect and it’s not hard to imagine you got beat by someone who’s really good at it.
Okay so you have no proof either. Could've just said so and save us all some time.
You’re the one who made the accusation without providing any evidence for anything other than being a sore loser. The game is flawed and these happen, but it’s not even worth raising an eyebrow.
So scroll along and hush then.
I know condescension is your game, but don’t tell me to hush, it’s an open forum. You have to expect push back if you’re going to dish it out yourself, which you do quite a bit. Have a nice day, exchange over
You said it wasn't worth raising an eyebrow so I'm telling you not to and ignore me altogether. I will say whatever I want because like you said so yourself, this is an open forum and that doesn't apply to just you.
Never questioned your right to say whatever, just to expect being challenged. Also the eyebrow thing was in relation to your picture; I expected something revealing and all I could think was « what I’m a looking at? That’s it? Nothing fishy here… »
Let me challenge you then, go into a game and use rookie Chapman then throw 10 pitches on the corners like in the screenshot I shared. If you can do that I'll apologize and personally bring you flowers and chocolate.
I’m not saying I could get 10/10 perfect, probably 7-8, maybe 9 if I’m in the zone. But that doesn’t change the fact that Zen doesn’t change the PAR size, and it’s an external device that programs perfect input. Without access to the game’s coding, you can’t do that. What it CAN do, is with being perfect over and over, then the pitches’ blue bar and confidence will fill up and shrink the PAR a bit. It’s not hard to imagine someone doing it; heck when I run into great players and they hit any pitch a foot outside out of the park, that is impressive. PPP is incredibly easy to master compared to hitting.
I'll tell you what, I'll lower it to 3 so you can pick 3 corners you'd like. That's less than 33% of what my opponent did given that he threw 11 pitches. You can pick your favorite corner yourself, whichever you're most comfortable/accurate throwing it. So 3 pitches compared to the 11 I witnessed. Show me you can and I'll eat my words.
So @yankblan_PSN are you accepting the challenge or are you gonna fold? Make no mistake, I know EXACTLY what I'm asking you to do; it's practically impossible. I live in BR and I'm a very capable pinpoint pitcher, I draft Rookie Chapman whenever he shows up. I know exactly how hard it is to locate with him.
I guarantee you, you will not spot 3 perfect pitches in a row. My opponent spotted 10 out 11 perfectly. Once you let that sink in and try it for yourself, then maybe JUST MAYBE you start looking at my thread from different point of view.
So go ahead, please prove me wrong.
So, you said practically yourself, and have you seen the size of his PAR? It’s minuscule relative to his attributes, it should be way bigger. His fastball is easy to locate, slider still pretty easy; only his changeup is so-so. You expect me to throw in 1,500 stubs and forfeit until I get to draft him? You do realize with PAR being RNG, I could locate his change perfectly one game and not at all the next? I’m pretty sure the 2 that have missed the zone were changeups. You should have at least labeled the pitch types in your pic. 8-9 pitches were either fastballs or sliders.
Edit:Would you accept it if I try it in RS on AS, like BR is?
They were mostly fastballs so his easiest pitch to locate. I would accept it if you tried it in RS, yes. But I wanna remind you again that you have to be 3 for 3, so if you miss once you fail. Or you can do 10 out of 11 and you can miss once, like my opponent did with that pitch below the zone. I'll leave that up to you.
That pitch below the zone was most likely a purpose pitch.
Yeah, kind of easy to explain anything away that doesn’t meet the narrative… it’s in the game for sure, but this instance, on a small sample and one pitch being way off, isn’t proof, not even close.
How's it going with the Chapman project? Any progress yet?
Considering it’s Sunday, 30 outside with sunshine and having family over for a barbecue, I’d say no, not yet. Can’t believe you sucked me into such a childish, endeavour; but I’ll do it because I’ll never hear the end of it. I’ve known my fair share of bullish know-it-alls, and I tend to avoid them.
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Sigh.... Our records dont show for the last few years. At least post something if you are gonna cry wolf. A video or pic of said accusation. You should know how to report by now.
Did you see the pic I posted the other day? Played a guy who hit 11 corners on 11 pitchers with rookie Chapman who has 0 control lol. I used to not buy the hype but I've turned around my opinion, this stuff is a problem.
That pic proved absolutely nothing; Zen doesn’t improve control, only input
Correct, it doesn't prove anything. Where is your proof to back up what you're saying?
I mean, the ball placements are not egregious; they’re around the corners but not that close for most of them.
There are dozens of Zen videos; they control the input at the controller level, they do not rewrite the game code. Add in the fact that the game is very forgiving with input being perfect and it’s not hard to imagine you got beat by someone who’s really good at it.
Okay so you have no proof either. Could've just said so and save us all some time.
You’re the one who made the accusation without providing any evidence for anything other than being a sore loser. The game is flawed and these happen, but it’s not even worth raising an eyebrow.
So scroll along and hush then.
I know condescension is your game, but don’t tell me to hush, it’s an open forum. You have to expect push back if you’re going to dish it out yourself, which you do quite a bit. Have a nice day, exchange over
You said it wasn't worth raising an eyebrow so I'm telling you not to and ignore me altogether. I will say whatever I want because like you said so yourself, this is an open forum and that doesn't apply to just you.
Never questioned your right to say whatever, just to expect being challenged. Also the eyebrow thing was in relation to your picture; I expected something revealing and all I could think was « what I’m a looking at? That’s it? Nothing fishy here… »
Let me challenge you then, go into a game and use rookie Chapman then throw 10 pitches on the corners like in the screenshot I shared. If you can do that I'll apologize and personally bring you flowers and chocolate.
I’m not saying I could get 10/10 perfect, probably 7-8, maybe 9 if I’m in the zone. But that doesn’t change the fact that Zen doesn’t change the PAR size, and it’s an external device that programs perfect input. Without access to the game’s coding, you can’t do that. What it CAN do, is with being perfect over and over, then the pitches’ blue bar and confidence will fill up and shrink the PAR a bit. It’s not hard to imagine someone doing it; heck when I run into great players and they hit any pitch a foot outside out of the park, that is impressive. PPP is incredibly easy to master compared to hitting.
I'll tell you what, I'll lower it to 3 so you can pick 3 corners you'd like. That's less than 33% of what my opponent did given that he threw 11 pitches. You can pick your favorite corner yourself, whichever you're most comfortable/accurate throwing it. So 3 pitches compared to the 11 I witnessed. Show me you can and I'll eat my words.
So @yankblan_PSN are you accepting the challenge or are you gonna fold? Make no mistake, I know EXACTLY what I'm asking you to do; it's practically impossible. I live in BR and I'm a very capable pinpoint pitcher, I draft Rookie Chapman whenever he shows up. I know exactly how hard it is to locate with him.
I guarantee you, you will not spot 3 perfect pitches in a row. My opponent spotted 10 out 11 perfectly. Once you let that sink in and try it for yourself, then maybe JUST MAYBE you start looking at my thread from different point of view.
So go ahead, please prove me wrong.
So, you said practically yourself, and have you seen the size of his PAR? It’s minuscule relative to his attributes, it should be way bigger. His fastball is easy to locate, slider still pretty easy; only his changeup is so-so. You expect me to throw in 1,500 stubs and forfeit until I get to draft him? You do realize with PAR being RNG, I could locate his change perfectly one game and not at all the next? I’m pretty sure the 2 that have missed the zone were changeups. You should have at least labeled the pitch types in your pic. 8-9 pitches were either fastballs or sliders.
Edit:Would you accept it if I try it in RS on AS, like BR is?
They were mostly fastballs so his easiest pitch to locate. I would accept it if you tried it in RS, yes. But I wanna remind you again that you have to be 3 for 3, so if you miss once you fail. Or you can do 10 out of 11 and you can miss once, like my opponent did with that pitch below the zone. I'll leave that up to you.
That pitch below the zone was most likely a purpose pitch.
Yeah, kind of easy to explain anything away that doesn’t meet the narrative… it’s in the game for sure, but this instance, on a small sample and one pitch being way off, isn’t proof, not even close.
How's it going with the Chapman project? Any progress yet?
Considering it’s Sunday, 30 outside with sunshine and having family over for a barbecue, I’d say no, not yet. Can’t believe you sucked me into such a childish, endeavour; but I’ll do it because I’ll never hear the end of it. I’ve known my fair share of bullish know-it-alls, and I tend to avoid them.
All good, no rush. Let me say this though, the task is impossible. You will not succeed. The only question for me is when you will come to realize it and throw in the towel. Enjoy the good weather and the BBQ though, stuff like that is way more important than this game will ever be.
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I gonna be the honorary boomer on his thread- what the heck is Zen?
It's a cheating device that allows you to run scripts to get perfect motion inputs. It's commonly used in NBA2K to get green releases and now it has made it's way to MLBTS.
You gotta be a real low life loser to resort to this for video games. I could see those websites that sell stubs use these to go flawless and stuff but not the everyday player. Why play if you cheat? How is it fun? Its not like you make money playing this game. Any streamer can't use it because their input is on screen. People would realize of everything was perfect. Its impossible for any human to replicate perfect pitches everytime. I mean perfect as in straight lines not perfect releases
